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phyzik
08-08-2008, 09:19 AM
This week at the Black Hat Security Conference two security researchers will discuss their findings which could completely bring Windows Vista to its knees.

Mark Dowd of IBM Internet Security Systems (ISS) and Alexander Sotirov, of VMware Inc. have discovered a technique that can be used to bypass all memory protection safeguards that Microsoft built into Windows Vista. These new methods have been used to get around Vista's Address Space Layout Randomization (ASLR), Data Execution Prevention (DEP) and other protections by loading malicious content through an active web browser. The researchers were able to load whatever content they wanted into any location they wished on a user's machine using a variety of scripting languages, such as Java, ActiveX and even .NET objects. This feat was achieved by taking advantage of the way that Internet Explorer (and other browsers) handle active scripting in the Operating System.

While this may seem like any standard security hole, other researchers say that the work is a major breakthrough and there is very little that Microsoft can do to fix the problems. These attacks work differently than other security exploits, as they aren't based on any new Windows vulnerabilities, but instead take advantage of the way Microsoft chose to guard Vista's fundamental architecture. According to Dino Dai Zovi, a popular security researcher told, "the genius of this is that it's completely reusable. They have attacks that let them load chosen content to a chosen location with chosen permissions. That's completely game over."

According to Microsoft, many of the defenses added to Windows Vista (and Windows Server 2008) were added to stop all host-based attacks. For example, ASLR is meant to stop attackers from predicting key memory addresses by randomly moving a process' stack, heap and libraries. While this technique is very useful against memory corruption attacks, it would be rendered useless against Dowd and Sotirov's new method. "This stuff just takes a knife to a large part of the security mesh Microsoft built into Vista," said Dai Zovi to SearchSecurity.com. "If you think about the fact that .NET loads DLLs into the browser itself and then Microsoft assumes they're safe because they're .NET objects, you see that Microsoft didn't think about the idea that these could be used as stepping stones for other attacks. This is a real tour de force."

While Microsoft hasn't officially responded to the findings, Mike Reavey, group manager of the Microsoft Security Response Center, said the company has been aware of the research and is very interested to see it once it has been made public. It currently isn't known whether these exploits can be used against older Microsoft Operating Systems, such as Windows XP and Windows Server 2003, but since these techniques do not rely on any one specific vulnerability, Zovi believes that we may suddenly see many similar techniques applied to other platforms or environments. "This is not insanely technical. These two guys are capable of the really low-level technical attacks, but this is simple and reusable," Dai Zovi said. "I definitely think this will get reused soon."

These techniques are being seen as an advance that many in the security community say will have far-reaching implications not only for Microsoft, but also on how the entire technology industry thinks about attacks. Expect to be hearing more about this in the near future and possibly being faced with the prospect of your "secure" server being stripped completely naked of all its protection.

Mental Masturbation
08-08-2008, 09:02 PM
Lame.

ShoogarBear
08-08-2008, 09:29 PM
I think it's highly unlikely anything will happen to my compdldk40ajasfoigadskfjaklsmfa3!@($)_)#__)$+$
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DO NOT TOUCH THE KEYBOARD! I AM IN CONTROL NOW!!

Heath Ledger
08-08-2008, 09:31 PM
all your base are belong to us.

Shaolin-Style
08-09-2008, 01:21 AM
Lets hope they give cyber criminals the death penalty from now on.

I sure do miss my windows xp.

tp2021
08-09-2008, 12:31 PM
http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh172/EVOLV3_2022/wallhax.jpg

mFFL03
08-09-2008, 01:00 PM
this story was on NPR about 2 weeks ago. Since then I've warned my entire family not to check their account balances online.

The interviewer had the actually discoverer of the hole, and it seems to be a hole for the WHOLE web, not just IE, or windows.

He knew about it a couple of months ago, met with all of the huge internet companies/serves and computer companies and let them know about it. He did not want it to break out into the public, but...what can ya do, eh?

I haven't heard of any successful remedy yet......creepy

ShoogarBear
08-09-2008, 01:48 PM
Looking through various other articles, the security issue seems serious, but not catastrophic like the original post makes it out to be. Anybody with expertise want to weigh in?

Also, although the post implies that nothing can be done, The Borg already has patches scheduled for this Tuesday:
http://www.informationweek.com/news/windows/operatingsystems/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=210000459


Microsoft Plans 12 Security Fixes For Aug. 12 'Patch Tuesday'

The company's upcoming Security Bulletin is scheduled to include seven fixes rated "critical" and five rated "important."

By Thomas Claburn ([email protected])
InformationWeek (http://www.informationweek.com/;jsessionid=0VQ0PYWVQ4B50QSNDLPSKHSCJUNN2JVN)
August 8, 2008 03:40 PM