Is there a war Cheney doesn't like?

[Nbadan]

Looks like Cheney is getting the U.S. into the Georgian-Russia conflict by using American transport planes to fly the 2000 Georgian 'peace-keepers' in Iraq back home to fight 'Russian aggression'..

Cheney: Russian action 'must not go unanswered'


WASHINGTON - Vice President Dick Cheney says Russia's military actions in Georgia "must not go unanswered."

Cheney spoke Sunday afternoon with Georgian President Mikheil Saakashvili. "The vice president expressed the United States' solidarity with the Georgian people and their democratically elected government in the face of this threat to Georgia's sovereignty and territorial integrity," Cheney's press secretary, Lee Ann McBride, said.

Cheney told Saakashvili "Russian aggression must not go unanswered, and that its continuation would have serious consequences for its relations with the United States, as well as the broader international community," McBride said.

Yahoooooooo (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080811/ap_on_re_as/bush_asia_21)

Normally he waits for his corporate M$M shills to read his war statements...

[boutons_]

For dickhead, war is corporate makework, corporate welfare, all no-bid, all without controls and monitoring, in total secrecy.

Corporate profits are the end, war is just the means.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Looks like Cheney is getting the U.S. into the Georgian-Russia conflict by using American transport planes to fly the 2000 Georgian 'peace-keepers' in Iraq back home to fight 'Russian aggression'..

Cheney: Russian action 'must not go unanswered'



Yahoooooooo (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080811/ap_on_re_as/bush_asia_21)

Normally he waits for his corporate M$M shills to read his war statements...

LMAO, everyone in D.C. was onboard with us providing transport for the Georgian troops back to their country, yet we're back to HALLIBURTON!

Typical libs...

[Anti.Hero]

Letting these soldiers leave quickly from fighting a war the U.S. started, so they can go back and defend their own homeland is bad?

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Letting these soldiers leave quickly from fighting a war the U.S. started, so they can go back and defend their own homeland is bad?

Yes, this is all clearly to increase profits at Halliburton for Cheney. We should have kept the Georgian troops in Iraq against their will, piss off them and their country, just to make Dan feel better :tu

[Tully365]

Georgia is much more of a terrorist threat to Russia than Iraq ever was to the US. This is the problem with Bush's war-- it makes every other country on the globe feel more justified in doing these kinds of things.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Georgia is much more of a terrorist threat to Russia than Iraq ever was to the US. This is the problem with Bush's war-- it makes every other country on the globe feel more justified in doing these kinds of things.

You simply don't know a damn thing about what you're talking about.

[Nbadan]

hmmm.........doesn't he?


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[Nbadan]

It's Raining Nazis--Continued
Joe Klein

When a column starts off like this:


"The details of who did what to precipitate Russia's war against Georgia are not very important. Do you recall the precise details of the Sudeten Crisis that led to Nazi Germany's invasion of Czechoslovakia? Of course not, because that morally ambiguous dispute is rightly remembered as a minor part of a much bigger drama.

"The events of the past week will be remembered that way, too."

...the author has got to be a neoconservative pushing for the next war. In this case, it's Robert Kagan, girding for a new twilight struggle with the Sovi...uh, sorry: that was a couple of twilight struggles ago...Russia. Kagan is smart and modulated in this case. He carefully lays out the U.S. and European Union initiatives in Eastern Europe that have led to the Russian pushback. Most of the western actions have been morally justified support for the new democracies--and Georgia may be the most heart-warming example--in the region; others, including the costly and technologically untenable missile defense system fantasized by Bush, have been unnecessarily provocative. And Kagan's (right)wingman, Bill Kristol, is similarly modulated in the NY Times:

"The good news is that today we don’t face threats of the magnitude of Nazi Germany or the Soviet Union. Each of those regimes combined ruthless internal control, a willingness to engage in external aggression, and fervent adherence to an extreme ideology. Today these elements don’t coexist in one place. Russia is aggressive, China despotic and Iran messianic — but none is as dangerous as the 20th-century totalitarian states."

But don't let that fool ya. With Word War IV--Norman Podhoretz's ridiculous oversell of the struggle against jihadi extremism--on a slow burn for the moment, Kagan et al are showing renewed interest in the golden oldies of enemies, Russia and China. This larval neo-crusade has influenced the campaign of John McCain, with his comic book proposal for a League of Democracies and his untenable proposal to kick the Russians out of the G8.

...

But it is important, yet again, to call out the endless neoconservative search for new enemies, mini-Hitlers. It is the product of an abstract over-intellectualizing of the world, the classic defect of ideologues. It is, as we have seen the last eight years, a dangerous way to behave internationally. And it has severely damaged our moral authority in the world...I mean, after the U.S. invasion of Iraq, after Abu Ghraib, after our blithe rubbishing of the Geneva Accords, why should anyone listen to us when we criticize the Russians for their aggression in the Caucasus?

Link (http://www.time-blog.com/swampland/2008/08/its_raining_nazis_1.html)

[Nbadan]

The Jewish Lukid Neo-Cons are there...

Jewish Georgian minister: Thanks to Israeli training, we're fending off Russia
By Haaretz Service


Jewish Georgian Minister Temur Yakobshvili on Sunday praised the Israel Defense Forces for its role in training Georgian troops and said Israel should be proud of its military might, in an interview with Army Radio.

"Israel should be proud of its military which trained Georgian soldiers," Yakobashvili told Army Radio in Hebrew, referring to a private Israeli group Georgia had hired.

<snip>

"The whole world is starting to understand that what is happening here will determine the future of this region, the future price of crude oil, the future of central Asia, and the future of NATO," the Georgian minister added.

According to him, "every bomb that falls over our heads is an attack on democracy, on the European Union and on America."

Haartez (http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1010187.html)

[dg7md]

Now now, you can't supply neo cons with actual information -- they'll just ignore it completely, or take one little tidbit about it and proclaim it as non-sense and "unamerican" then proceed to go on an entirely different tangent.

[Nbadan]

Check this out....the Ajerbaijan Chamber of Commerce...



HONORARY COUNCIL OF ADVISORS



James
Baker III


Zbigniew
Brzezinski


Henry
Kissinger


Brent
Scowcroft



John
Sununu

CO-CHAIRMEN OF THE BOARD

James A. Baker, IV
Partner, Baker Botts, L.L.P.

Reza Vaziri
President, R.V. Investment Group



BOARD OF DIRECTORS

Shapoor Ansari, MD

Halim Atesh
General Manager, Azercell Telecom

Farhad Azima
Chairman & CEO, Aviation Leasing Group

Scott Blacklin
Vice President, Cisco Systems

Betty Blair
Editor, Azerbaijan International

Jahangir Hajiyev
Chairman, International Bank of Azerbaijan

Charles Koontz
Senior Vice President, SAIC

Robert Livingston
President, Livingston Group

Albert Marchetti
Vice President, Hess Corporation

Greg Saunders
Director, International Affairs, BP

Diana Sedney
Manager, International Government Relations for Chevron

Michael White
Azerbaijan Country Manager, ExxonMobil International Limited

Gregory K. Williams
Strategic Security Manager, Coca Cola



FORMER MEMBERS OF THE ADVISORY COUNCIL AND THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS

The following individuals of high distinction have previously served on the Advisory Council and the Board of Directors:

Dick Cheney
Vice President of the United States of America

Richard Armitage
Deputy Secretary of State



BOARD OF TRUSTEES

Ilham Aliyev
President of Azerbaijan.

Abdullah Akyuz
President, TUSIAD-US Inc.

Graham Allison
Director, Belfer Center for Science and International Affairs
Kennedy School of Government, Harvard University

Sam Brownback (R-KS)
US Senator

Frank Henke
Chairman, American Bank & Trust Company

Richard Moncrief
Chairman, Moncrief Oil International

Hafiz Pashayev
Deputy Minister, Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the Republic of Azerbaijan

Richard Perle
American Enterprize Institute, former Assistant Secretary of Defense

Frank Verrastro
Director and Senior Fellow in the CSIS Energy Program



OFFICERS

Mahir Iskender - USACC
Executive Director

Legal Counsel
Baker Botts, L.L.P.

Linky (http://www.usacc.org/contents.php?cid=2)

It's like a whos'-who list of goolish Neo-Cons

[Tully365]

You simply don't know a damn thing about what you're talking about.

Actually, yes, I do. Russia has had terrorist actions in Moscow and other Russian cities that are directly linked to Georgian extremist groups. Can you name one Iraqi terrorist responsible for anything done on American soil?

[boutons_]

"Georgia is much more of a terrorist threat to Russia than Iraq ever was to the US"

neither Iraq no Georgia were threats. The mess in both countries is ethnic and/or religious.

As always, having power, like US and Russia, means it will ALWAYS be abused, like invading non-threatening countries.

[Ya Vez]

is there a war the liberals love? I think it's Darfar... leave Iraq and Afghanistan and invade Darfar...

[boutons_]

Not even counting the 10 of $Bs pumped into US oilcos from the Iraq war's contribution (some say $30 - 40/barrel), here's $100B to contractors, much of it with no oversight and rotten with fraud and non-delivery

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/08/12/us-has-spent-100-billion_n_118336.html?view=print

Bogus Iraq (privatized) war is above all about Big Business, totally unrelated to US security.

[George Gervin's Afro]

Looks like Cheney is getting the U.S. into the Georgian-Russia conflict by using American transport planes to fly the 2000 Georgian 'peace-keepers' in Iraq back home to fight 'Russian aggression'..

Cheney: Russian action 'must not go unanswered'



Yahoooooooo (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080811/ap_on_re_as/bush_asia_21)

Normally he waits for his corporate M$M shills to read his war statements...

It's the conservative way. Shoot first and then deal with the consequences later. Of course now we have the ultimate chicken hawk in Dick Cheney spewing fighting words that he doesn't have to back up. Does this surprise anyone?

[George Gervin's Afro]

is there a war the liberals love? I think it's Darfar... leave Iraq and Afghanistan and invade Darfar...

It's the unecessary one's we don't like. We get it. Your one of those conservatives with a bunch of yellow ribbons on your SUV.:rolleyes

You're a joke.

[Indazone]

It's the conservative way. Shoot first and then deal with the consequences later. Of course now we have the ultimate chicken hawk in Dick Cheney spewing fighting words that he doesn't have to back up. Does this surprise anyone?

No suprise here. These are guys who do whatever the fuck they want to do. Cover up the global warming effect and suppress information from our own scientists. Invade Iraq for regime change. Take all the former Eastern Bloc countries for themselves. Piss of diplomats around the world with their hard headed bashing forward on stuff without listneing to anyone. Illegal wiretaping and Patriot Act.

Guantanamo Bay Gulag and waterboarding

I can't believe I voted for these guys :(

[Ya Vez]

It's the unecessary one's we don't like. We get it. Your one of those conservatives with a bunch of yellow ribbons on your SUV.:rolleyes

You're a joke.

so you only like necessary wars... name me a necessary war and I am sure I can find some liberal fault to it.. I am sure your code pink bumper sticker is about to fall off your yugo...

[George Gervin's Afro]

so you only like necessary wars... name me a necessary war and I am sure I can find some liberal fault to it.. I am sure your code pink bumper sticker is about to fall off your yugo...

Uh, yes I can say that I will support military action if it is the last resort. The Iraq war as one of first resort.