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stretch
08-11-2008, 01:39 PM
http://www.tmz.com/2008/08/11/spanish-bball-team-takes-their-eyes-off-the-ball/

you be the judge.

ChumpDumper
08-11-2008, 01:43 PM
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I think there are two correct answers.

dickface
08-11-2008, 01:44 PM
yeah but it's Asian people. Nobody cares if you're racist against them.

JamStone
08-11-2008, 01:52 PM
Fucking Euro spics

RonMexico
08-11-2008, 01:55 PM
I have a small request that someone post the contents of this article because TMZ is blocked at work.

hater
08-11-2008, 01:55 PM
well they are white, so they must be racist.

dickface
08-11-2008, 01:56 PM
I have a small request that someone post the contents of this article because TMZ is blocked at work.

the entire Spanish team is making the "me chinese, me play joke, me put peepee in your Coke" face.

CubanMustGo
08-11-2008, 01:57 PM
the entire Spanish team is making the "me chinese, me play joke, me put peepee in your Coke" face.

http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.tmz.com/media/2008/08/0811_spanish_basketball.jpg

RonMexico
08-11-2008, 01:58 PM
Hahahah... typical Spaniards.

lefty
08-11-2008, 01:58 PM
I have a small request that someone post the contents of this article because TMZ is blocked at work.

http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.tmz.com/media/2008/08/0811_spanish_basketball.jpg

The Spanish national basketball team, gold medal contenders at the Olympics in Beijing, was featured in a full page ad that shows the team pulling back at their eyes in a slanty-eyed gesture. According to the Guardian, the ad (which is for a freight company) ran in a Spanish newspaper.

An e-mail to the Spanish Basketball Federation was not immediately returned.

Tully365
08-11-2008, 01:58 PM
Your poll becomes pretty worthless when you're asking about racism and also asking if a rival poster is "a fag."

Hard to believe there wasn't one guy on that team who didn't question this or refuse to participate.

dickface
08-11-2008, 01:59 PM
Your poll becomes pretty worthless when you're asking about racism and also asking if a rival poster is "a fag."

explain that one.

RonMexico
08-11-2008, 02:00 PM
Your poll becomes pretty worthless when you're asking about racism and also asking if a rival poster is "a fag."

Hard to believe there wasn't one guy on that team who didn't question this or refuse to participate.

You do realize that these are Spanish people, right? They're used to conquering native people... much like the Chinese conquer Tibetans or people who are HIV-positive. I don't think it's racist... they're simply showing some cross-nation brotherhood.

Oh, Gee!!
08-11-2008, 02:01 PM
I can"t tell what they're doing

timvp
08-11-2008, 02:02 PM
Not very good racism. Too tall. If they would have been on there knees, then maybe.

MajorMike
08-11-2008, 02:06 PM
and showed they have little weiners.

RonMexico
08-11-2008, 02:08 PM
and showed they have little weiners.

Per usual, Mike is obsessed with the penis...

Kobayagi
08-11-2008, 02:13 PM
There's always been a lot of racism in spanish sports, so no surprises there.

Proof 1 (http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/formula_1/article3301086.ece)

Proof 2 (http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2004/oct/07/newsstory.sport5)

Proof 3 (http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=359957&&cc=5739)

Can't decide who is worse, the Italians or the Spaniards.

nkdlunch
08-11-2008, 02:16 PM
Can't decide who is worse, the Italians or the Spaniards.

a mix between the two = Argentines :lol

I. Hustle
08-11-2008, 02:16 PM
If they would have pretended to have buck teeth then it would have been better

Texas_Ranger
08-11-2008, 02:18 PM
Those bastards!

I. Hustle
08-11-2008, 02:23 PM
It would have been better if they were pretending to lose control of their cars

nkdlunch
08-11-2008, 02:25 PM
or urinating in chinese food

The Franchise
08-11-2008, 02:36 PM
Damn koba!!! I knew there were ignorant people but I thought that level of stupidity ended in the seventies. That shit was sad.

Tully365
08-11-2008, 02:36 PM
yeah but it's Asian people. Nobody cares if you're racist against them.

Well, nobody except the 1.3 billion Chinese people and 3+billion Asians worldwide.

Brutalis
08-11-2008, 02:41 PM
That's not racist. Geez people need to lighten the fuck up and stop being little pussy ass titty babies.

I. Hustle
08-11-2008, 02:42 PM
Well, nobody except the 1.3 billion Chinese people and 3+billion Asians worldwide.

Exactly. They are hardly even noticeable unless they are hosting the Olympics.

It would have been better if they had chili bowl haircut wigs

dickface
08-11-2008, 02:43 PM
That's not racist. Geez people need to lighten the fuck up and stop being little pussy ass titty babies.

Yeah exactly. You know what IS racist? The fact that we celebrate MLK's b-day but not Robert E. Lee's! Fuck that!

dickface
08-11-2008, 02:44 PM
it would have been better if they were cooking various house pets.

Brutalis
08-11-2008, 02:44 PM
There's always been a lot of racism in spanish sports, so no surprises there.

Proof 1 (http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/formula_1/article3301086.ece)

Proof 2 (http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2004/oct/07/newsstory.sport5)

Proof 3 (http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=359957&&cc=5739)

Can't decide who is worse, the Italians or the Spaniards.

Slovenians.

Findog
08-11-2008, 02:47 PM
Your poll becomes pretty worthless when you're asking about racism and also asking if a rival poster is "a fag."

Hard to believe there wasn't one guy on that team who didn't question this or refuse to participate.

He didn't call anyone a "fag," he called spamlongII a "spamming fag."

Big difference.

Tully365
08-11-2008, 02:56 PM
Yeah exactly. You know what IS racist? The fact that we celebrate MLK's b-day but not Robert E. Lee's! Fuck that!

:dizzy
whoa.

Doug Collins
08-11-2008, 03:01 PM
Yeah exactly. You know what IS racist? The fact that we celebrate MLK's b-day but not Robert E. Lee's! Fuck that!

Black Entertainment Television is also racist.

Doug Collins
08-11-2008, 03:02 PM
Fucking Euro spics

I find the term "Euro spics" offensive towards us regular spics. Fuckin' Euro pieces of shit.

I. Hustle
08-11-2008, 03:03 PM
It would have been better if they were all drunk and doing Kung Fu while singing karaoke.

Findog
08-11-2008, 03:03 PM
In the interest of equal opportunity, shouldn't we have Korean Entertainment Television, Slovenian Entertainment Television. How come the blacks get their own network?

ploto
08-11-2008, 03:04 PM
It's TMZ. Is that even an authentic photo?

Every hand looks like the exact same hand just rotated.

MajorMike
08-11-2008, 03:06 PM
I find "Miss Black USA Pagent" type stuff very racist. I mean, a black girl can get Miss USA but a white girl can't be Miss Black USA?? What's up with that?

ChumpDumper
08-11-2008, 03:06 PM
Why would TMZ fake that?

I. Hustle
08-11-2008, 03:06 PM
Black Entertainment Television is also racist.

Imagine if there was a channel called White Entertainment Television. People would shit bricks but because it's Black Entertainment Television :jack

Tully365
08-11-2008, 03:07 PM
Equal opportunity thread for dummies.

nkdlunch
08-11-2008, 03:09 PM
Imagine if there was a channel called White Entertainment Television.

It's called CMT

dickface
08-11-2008, 03:09 PM
Equal opportunity thread for dummies.

that's racist.

ploto
08-11-2008, 03:09 PM
Why would TMZ fake that?

Spain is the biggest threat to the US team-- current world champions??

ChumpDumper
08-11-2008, 03:11 PM
Spain is the biggest threat to the US team??That's a conspiracy theory of Nbadan proportions.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/othersports/olympics/2540221/Spanish-basketball-red-faced-over-slit-eyed-Olympic-photo.html

Findog
08-11-2008, 03:14 PM
It's called CMT

:lmao

MajorMike
08-11-2008, 03:15 PM
It's called CMT


http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:NiWpBfgGX-I5xM:http://www.rayspages.co.uk/index_files/CPride1.jpghttp://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:FMnYL28zb3LNpM:http://img.gactv.com/GAC/2006/05/18/nealmccoy7_e.jpg

http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:CscgTxg2ZwJUvM:http://www.villagevoice.com/blogs/statusainthood/archives/images/CBT.jpghttp://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:eZ0JUImkt75P1M:http://www.thanksforthemusic.com/images/associations/ACM/1999/party/1a.jpg

I. Hustle
08-11-2008, 03:17 PM
http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:NiWpBfgGX-I5xM:http://www.rayspages.co.uk/index_files/CPride1.jpghttp://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:FMnYL28zb3LNpM:http://img.gactv.com/GAC/2006/05/18/nealmccoy7_e.jpg

http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:CscgTxg2ZwJUvM:http://www.villagevoice.com/blogs/statusainthood/archives/images/CBT.jpghttp://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:eZ0JUImkt75P1M:http://www.thanksforthemusic.com/images/associations/ACM/1999/party/1a.jpg

:lol You don't have to call me Charlie Pride

tlongII
08-11-2008, 03:19 PM
:spam:

ChumpDumper
08-11-2008, 03:21 PM
It's TMZ. Is that even an authentic photo?

Every hand looks like the exact same hand just rotated.http://images.encyclopediadramatica.com/images/b/b1/Shopped_sea.jpg

E20
08-11-2008, 03:39 PM
You know who are the most racist?

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Hemotivo
08-11-2008, 03:45 PM
a mix between the two = Argentines :lol

:lmao

Pero
08-11-2008, 04:01 PM
:lol at this thread.

I. Hustle
08-11-2008, 04:04 PM
If you don't laugh at this thread you are racist. http://media.collegepublisher.com/media/paper600/stills/m67u92d9.jpg

Tully365
08-11-2008, 04:07 PM
Look at the poll results. tlong11 voted for himself as a spamming fag. Now that's funny!

ThunderStix®
08-11-2008, 04:19 PM
That's not racist. Geez people need to lighten the fuck up and stop being little pussy ass titty babies.

+1 They were just acting stupid, although Team USA probably wouldn't get away with that. :lol

manufor3
08-11-2008, 04:25 PM
tlong voted for tlong is a spamming fag!!! :lmao

Borosai
08-11-2008, 04:29 PM
I couldn't even tell what they were doing until I read the description. They just look stupid.

Brutalis
08-11-2008, 04:29 PM
I find "Miss Black USA Pagent" type stuff very racist. I mean, a black girl can get Miss USA but a white girl can't be Miss Black USA?? What's up with that?

It's just typical double standards of the country. Nobody will dare oppose it, or oppose "black" only colleges and events because they are the minority. No matter how wrong it is they would scream murder and the last thing our government wants is that minority rebelling and acting out in violence so they pretty much give them what they want.

Doug Collins
08-11-2008, 04:32 PM
It's just typical double standards of the country. Nobody will dare oppose it, or oppose "black" only colleges and events because they are the minority. No matter how wrong it is they would scream murder and the last thing our government wants is that minority rebelling and acting out in violence so they pretty much give them what they want.

Except for them 40 acres and a mule...oops.

dickface
08-11-2008, 04:32 PM
It's just typical double standards of the country. Nobody will dare oppose it, or oppose "black" only colleges and events because they are the minority. No matter how wrong it is they would scream murder and the last thing our government wants is that minority rebelling and acting out in violence so they pretty much give them what they want.

WOW, can it get any more ignorant than this?

So tell me, the last time "that minority" had a big civil rights protest, who were the ones being violent? Was it "that minority" that quietly sat in restaurants and held rallys, or was it the white people that turned hoses on them, sic'd dogs on them, and oh yeah lynched them and put burning crosses on their fucking front yards?

JamStone
08-11-2008, 04:34 PM
Yeah it's not really racist. People shouldn't make too much of it.

At the same time, it's pretty distasteful if you think about it. These aren't 12 year old boys playing pick-up basketball and making jokes. These are Olympic athletes representing their country. Act right.

Doug Collins
08-11-2008, 04:37 PM
Yeah it's not really racist. People shouldn't make too much of it.

At the same time, it's pretty distasteful if you think about it. These aren't 12 year old boys playing pick-up basketball and making jokes. These are Olympic athletes representing their country. Act right.

You're expecting too much from Spaniards

Pero
08-11-2008, 04:37 PM
Yeah it's not really racist. People shouldn't make too much of it.

At the same time, it's pretty distasteful if you think about it. These aren't 12 year old boys playing pick-up basketball and making jokes. These are Olympic athletes representing their country. Act right.

What if they are? :p:

RonMexico
08-11-2008, 04:37 PM
Does anyone here even like Spaniards? I've been to Madrid and I hate those greasy pieces of shit. I mean... Pau Gasol?

Also, anyone who posts a pic of Nick Swardson deserves a +1 (I.Hustle).

I. Hustle
08-11-2008, 04:42 PM
WOW, can it get any more ignorant than this?

So tell me, the last time "that minority" had a big civil rights protest, who were the ones being violent? Was it "that minority" that quietly sat in restaurants and held rallys, or was it the white people that turned hoses on them, sic'd dogs on them, and oh yeah lynched them and put burning crosses on their fucking front yards?

:lol that's before looting was invented

I. Hustle
08-11-2008, 04:44 PM
Does anyone here even like Spaniards? I've been to Madrid and I hate those greasy pieces of shit. I mean... Pau Gasol?

Also, anyone who posts a pic of Nick Swardson deserves a +1 (I.Hustle).

:tu

ChumpDumper
08-11-2008, 04:49 PM
"black" only colleges?

dickface
08-11-2008, 04:50 PM
so do we have any actual Asians who want to comment on this? Or have we had any here who will admit their Asian-ness? I'm guessing they're the only ones who can intelligently comment on how offensive this really is, and not a bunch of nerdy white kids. For example, what if the Spanish team was making fun of Battlestar Galactica, how would you guys feel then? Yeah, exactly.

Brutalis
08-11-2008, 04:54 PM
?

Shorter College in Little Rock for one.

dickface
08-11-2008, 04:56 PM
Shorter College in Little Rock for one.

All races are allowed into any of these "black" colleges.

mavs>spurs2
08-11-2008, 04:59 PM
who gives a fuck it's just asians

Brutalis
08-11-2008, 04:59 PM
WOW, can it get any more ignorant than this?

So tell me, the last time "that minority" had a big civil rights protest, who were the ones being violent? Was it "that minority" that quietly sat in restaurants and held rallys, or was it the white people that turned hoses on them, sic'd dogs on them, and oh yeah lynched them and put burning crosses on their fucking front yards?

Instead why don't you tell me what the hell that has to do with anything I said. The past is the past, and what happened was wrong. My state went through the worst desegregation process than any other. I know what happened back then. So aside from my point why don't you try making one too.

dickface
08-11-2008, 05:02 PM
Instead why don't you tell me what the hell that has to do with anything I said. The past is the past, and what happened was wrong. My state went through the worst desegregation process than any other. I know what happened back then. So aside from my point why don't you try making one too.

You had a point beyond "I'm an ignorant dumbass"?

I. Hustle
08-11-2008, 05:05 PM
so do we have any actual Asians who want to comment on this? Or have we had any here who will admit their Asian-ness? I'm guessing they're the only ones who can intelligently comment on how offensive this really is, and not a bunch of nerdy white kids. For example, what if the Spanish team was making fun of Battlestar Galactica, how would you guys feel then? Yeah, exactly.

:lol @ your anger

The Franchise
08-11-2008, 05:08 PM
It's just typical double standards of the country. Nobody will dare oppose it, or oppose "black" only colleges and events because they are the minority. No matter how wrong it is they would scream murder and the last thing our government wants is that minority rebelling and acting out in violence so they pretty much give them what they want.

:wtf

Brutalis
08-11-2008, 05:08 PM
All races are allowed into any of these "black" colleges.

Two white kids fresh from high school in 1995 tried to enroll. They were denied. The supreme court wouldn't even hear their case, and it didn't even make the evening news just a newspaper article. Imagine how much just that stirred the black community here. I even heard comments of "typical white people always trying to take the few things we got." Laugh out loud.

I'm sure there's been white kids in and our of these schools though. But I know one girl that was beat to a pulp for attending one, and later transferred. They are black colleges. And white people are not accepted there. Enrolled sure, but what happens after that? UAPB in Pine Bluff for another example.

Brutalis
08-11-2008, 05:09 PM
You had a point beyond "I'm an ignorant dumbass"?

You're an ignorant dumb ass? Well no shit.

RonMexico
08-11-2008, 05:10 PM
:lol @ your anger

Yeah, I don't think it matters that we comment on whether the Spanish are racist or Asians are offended. This thread has one of two conclusions: are Spaniards greasy bastards or is tlongII a spamming tool?

However, as a white Italian, I'm very offended when people make Mafia jokes... oh, wait, no I'm not because I whack them.

The Franchise
08-11-2008, 05:11 PM
Two white kids fresh from high school in 1995 tried to enroll. They were denied. The supreme court wouldn't even hear their case, and it didn't even make the evening news just a newspaper article. Imagine how much just that stirred the black community here. I even heard comments of "typical white people always trying to take the few things we got." Laugh out loud.

I'm sure there's been white kids in and our of these schools though. But I know one girl that was beat to a pulp for attending one, and later transferred. They are black colleges. And white people are not accepted there. Enrolled sure, but what happens after that? UAPB in Pine Bluff for another example.
Link? You can't just say these things without evidence.

I. Hustle
08-11-2008, 05:16 PM
http://www.pjhlaw.co.uk/uploads/images/Racist_sheep.jpg

I. Hustle
08-11-2008, 05:17 PM
http://notsocalm.files.wordpress.com/2007/11/racist-lolcat-2.jpg

Brutalis
08-11-2008, 05:19 PM
Link? You can't just say these things without evidence.

While posting I had searched for the 1995 event that happened. I didn't find anything. I didn't expect to anyways it only made the local paper. I know what happened, and don't need that approval much less yours either, n00b.

I. Hustle
08-11-2008, 05:21 PM
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f358/nolimitscguy/Mexicans.jpg

RonMexico
08-11-2008, 05:26 PM
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f358/nolimitscguy/Mexicans.jpg

I bet a white man forced them to laugh in that picture.

The Franchise
08-11-2008, 05:28 PM
While posting I had searched for the 1995 event that happened. I didn't find anything. I didn't expect to anyways it only made the local paper. I know what happened, and don't need that approval much less yours either, n00b.

RIIIGGHHT.

Brutalis
08-11-2008, 05:30 PM
Dummy.

ChumpDumper
08-11-2008, 05:30 PM
Two white kids fresh from high school in 1995 tried to enroll. They were denied.Maybe they were just stupid.


I'm sure there's been white kids in and our of these schools though. But I know one girl that was beat to a pulp for attending one, and later transferred. They are black colleges. And white people are not accepted there. Enrolled sure, but what happens after that?They take classes and graduate.

I. Hustle
08-11-2008, 05:31 PM
I bet a white man forced them to laugh in that picture.

Only if they wanted their beans

RonMexico
08-11-2008, 05:33 PM
Only if they wanted their beans

They don't need no stinkin' beans.

JamStone
08-11-2008, 06:28 PM
Two white kids fresh from high school in 1995 tried to enroll. They were denied. The supreme court wouldn't even hear their case, and it didn't even make the evening news just a newspaper article. Imagine how much just that stirred the black community here. I even heard comments of "typical white people always trying to take the few things we got." Laugh out loud.

I'm sure there's been white kids in and our of these schools though. But I know one girl that was beat to a pulp for attending one, and later transferred. They are black colleges. And white people are not accepted there. Enrolled sure, but what happens after that? UAPB in Pine Bluff for another example.

You obviously didn't watch "A Different World" or the movie "Drumline" because Marisa Tomei and the white drummer dude were well liked at both those schools.

On a serious note, traditional HBCs do not reject applications of white students, nor are there quotas or limits to the number of white students at those schools. That doesn't mean it would be easy for a white student to attend a college that is 95-98% black. Of course it won't be. And, the HBCs in the south are typically tougher against white students. You can imagine why. The traditions of black colleges are still firmly rooted in the history of African Americans and on the foundations of the struggles of African Americans up to and during the civil rights times.

There is still plenty racism to varying degrees throughout the country, and it's not just primarily in black communities against white people.

jack sommerset
08-11-2008, 06:44 PM
Nope.

tomtom
08-11-2008, 06:51 PM
so do we have any actual Asians who want to comment on this? Or have we had any here who will admit their Asian-ness? I'm guessing they're the only ones who can intelligently comment on how offensive this really is, and not a bunch of nerdy white kids. For example, what if the Spanish team was making fun of Battlestar Galactica, how would you guys feel then? Yeah, exactly.

I'm Vietnamese. Eh it's not that big of a deal but it's certainly distasteful. Not sure what they were trying to prove to themselves or what the hell they were doing blank. But yeah this is just childish stuff nothing to get riled over. And as some others have said they are in the olympics aren't showing the class they should be.

Spuradicator
08-11-2008, 07:05 PM
Ehh, I laughed

Brutalis
08-11-2008, 07:23 PM
You obviously didn't watch "A Different World" or the movie "Drumline" because Marisa Tomei and the white drummer dude were well liked at both those schools.

:lmao @ referring to movies for point validation


On a serious note, traditional HBCs do not reject applications of white students, nor are there quotas or limits to the number of white students at those schools. That doesn't mean it would be easy for a white student to attend a college that is 95-98% black. Of course it won't be. And, the HBCs in the south are typically tougher against white students. You can imagine why. The traditions of black colleges are still firmly rooted in the history of African Americans and on the foundations of the struggles of African Americans up to and during the civil rights times.

Maybe they don't reject them now, but they have before in the past. And I agree with the rest. Nothing new.


There is still plenty racism to varying degrees throughout the country, and it's not just primarily in black communities against white people.

I never said different and I agree with that.

JamStone
08-11-2008, 07:33 PM
Why laugh at an obvious sarcastic comment?

I even said "on a serious note" in the very next paragraph.

ThunderStix®
08-11-2008, 07:36 PM
so do we have any actual Asians who want to comment on this? Or have we had any here who will admit their Asian-ness? I'm guessing they're the only ones who can intelligently comment on how offensive this really is, and not a bunch of nerdy white kids. For example, what if the Spanish team was making fun of Battlestar Galactica, how would you guys feel then? Yeah, exactly.

I could care less what anyone says about me or my race. Anyone who cares about skin color is just stupid.

We're all God's children, and we're all the same in his eyes. That's all that matters.

Tully365
08-11-2008, 08:06 PM
For example, what if the Spanish team was making fun of Battlestar Galactica, how would you guys feel then? Yeah, exactly.

:wtf:dizzy

century
08-11-2008, 08:21 PM
I always liked Bobby Slayton's chinese waiter impression. Chicken or POOOOOOK?!?!?!:lol:lol:lol

Stop being pussies.

Indazone
08-12-2008, 10:55 AM
Posing for an ad for a courier company, the team pulled their eyes back, mocking the physical appearance of the Chinese. The ad appeared on a full page in the sports daily Marca (http://www.marca.com/), Spain's top-selling newspaper, according to the Guardian (http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2008/aug/11/olympicsbasketball.olympics20081).

The ad reportedly included two photos (the men and women's basketball teams) where athletes pose in Olympic uniforms on a basketball court. The court has the imprint of a Chinese dragon on it, and the athletes appear to be pulling their eyes back.

Among the group of athletes in the ad are Jose Calderon (Toronto Raptors point guard), LA Lakers forward Pau Gasol and Rudy Fernandez (a rookie for the Portland Trail Blazers), according to the CBC (http://www.cbc.ca/olympics/basketball/story/2008/08/11/olympics-basketball-spain-controversy.html).

The courier company is an official sponsor of the Spanish Basketball Federation. The team says no offence was intended with the ad.

Spain's racial insensitivities come at a horrible time, as the country is still bidding to host the Games in Madrid in 2016 or 2020.

Spain has also been criticized in the past for making monkey chants at England's black soccer players in a November 2004 friendly match in Madrid. The Spanish football federation was fined by Fifa, the world governing body, for that incident.

http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/258469/Olympic_Faux_Pas_Spanish_Team_Accused_of_Racist_Ge stures_in_Newspaper_Ad

myhc
08-13-2008, 10:02 PM
so do we have any actual Asians who want to comment on this? Or have we had any here who will admit their Asian-ness? I'm guessing they're the only ones who can intelligently comment on how offensive this really is, and not a bunch of nerdy white kids. For example, what if the Spanish team was making fun of Battlestar Galactica, how would you guys feel then? Yeah, exactly.

I'm Korean. Am I offended? You bet I am. That's most certainly a racist gesture, one I've unfortunately run into a handful of times in the past and been jumped a couple of times because of it. You tend to never forget the ugliness behind gestures/comments like that after being chased by 3 dudes with pipes after getting the whole mock Bruce Lee bit. So no, I'm not going to "get over it" like someone said earlier. Having said that, I think you have to look at intent. I will give them the benefit of the doubt and say they probably didn't have any kind of malicious intent when they took that picture. Stupid? Ignorant? Incredibly immature? Absolutely. I know Pau Gasol appologized and I accept it. Learn and let's move on. Now I just hope our boys destroy Spain by 30.

debo
08-13-2008, 10:24 PM
its more immature than racist. but at the same time, who cares? not me. let the Spaniards and Chinese work it out.

monosylab1k
08-13-2008, 10:47 PM
Jason Kidd actually had a great point about this. What if this was the U.S. team that did this? Every last one of them would be villified and David Stern probably would have suspensions ready to hand out to everyone involved as soon as they got back.

It most definitely would have been considered racist, and the rest of the world would have gone completely apeshit over Americans mocking Asians in that way. But since it's some silly Spaniards, it's "no big deal".

Making that slanty eye gesture is just as offensive as if they had gotten dressed up in blackface. But for whatever reason there's a double standard, actually two of them. A) because they're European it's more acceptable to the rest of the world, and B) because they're making fun of Asians and not black people it's more acceptable to America.

RonMexico
08-14-2008, 12:38 AM
Jason Kidd actually had a great point about this. What if this was the U.S. team that did this? Every last one of them would be villified and David Stern probably would have suspensions ready to hand out to everyone involved as soon as they got back.

It most definitely would have been considered racist, and the rest of the world would have gone completely apeshit over Americans mocking Asians in that way. But since it's some silly Spaniards, it's "no big deal".

Making that slanty eye gesture is just as offensive as if they had gotten dressed up in blackface. But for whatever reason there's a double standard, actually two of them. A) because they're European it's more acceptable to the rest of the world, and B) because they're making fun of Asians and not black people it's more acceptable to America.

I'll disagree on point B because I think it's unacceptable to make fun of both black people and Asians and I'm a huge racist. Although I expect that if China wins the medal count, there will be an increase in Asian hate-crimes.

Spuradicator
08-14-2008, 11:39 AM
I'm Korean. Am I offended? You bet I am. That's most certainly a racist gesture, one I've unfortunately run into a handful of times in the past and been jumped a couple of times because of it. You tend to never forget the ugliness behind gestures/comments like that after being chased by 3 dudes with pipes after getting the whole mock Bruce Lee bit. So no, I'm not going to "get over it" like someone said earlier. Having said that, I think you have to look at intent. I will give them the benefit of the doubt and say they probably didn't have any kind of malicious intent when they took that picture. Stupid? Ignorant? Incredibly immature? Absolutely. I know Pau Gasol appologized and I accept it. Learn and let's move on. Now I just hope our boys destroy Spain by 30.

You are Korean, not Chinese.

ambchang
08-14-2008, 12:16 PM
Judging whether the gesture was inherently racist based on the reaction is flawed. Some people can take a mean-spirited attack and let it roll off their back, while others can take an innocent comment as an offense.

By definition, the team find humour in the appearance of one race, which is racist in and of itself. There really is not point arguing this.

Were they intended to mock? Probably not, but to run a full page ad with race jokes while, I assume, they have no knowledge of the taunts received by East Asians based on this exact joke in "comedies" of the 50's and 60's is ignorant .

RuffnReadyOzStyle
08-14-2008, 09:48 PM
It certainly is insensitive, insulting, immature and unnecessary, but I doubt they are all card-carrying KKK members.

An apology would be appropriate... and fire whoever thought that picture would be a good idea! :lol