Big rumor trade involving the Spurs

[Gsaz]

Take this with the ultimate grain of salt but there is a rumor I heard from a friend who is connected pretty well and I kinda believe him but not yet convinced. to get things going faster there is supposedly a 3 team trade being discussed heavily under closed doors and some how my friend leaked it to me but I will be kind enough to share. ( I just hope this doesn't get leaked to much.)

The details of the trade looks like this from what I was told.

Spurs trading Oberto/Bonner/ Bown

Spurs getting Joel Przybilla/ #2 pick via Portland / Desmond Mason

Portland trading Przybilla/#2 pick for Oberto/Charlie Villanueva/Matt Bonner

Bucks trading Charlie Villanueva/ Bucks getting Ike Diogu / Bruce Bowen

Don't take this seriously cause it's unsubstantial at this point.

The line-up will look like this..

C: Joel Przybilla
PF: Tim Duncan
SF: Desmond Mason
SG: Manu Ginobili
PG: Tony Parker

[Joe Schmoogins]

i don't see bruce ever being traded.

[Streakyshooter08]

Doubt it.

[Gsaz]

Joe... you have a point however the Spurs will do it if they become more athletic. they have been saying they want to become more athletic since early summer.

[Trainwreck2100]

The Bucks accomplish nothing by getting Bowen

[DPG21920]

They would not be able to trade Ike in a multiple player trade. They would have to make that a separate deal I believe.

[DespЏrado]

:lol You expect us to believe that the Spurs would even consider such a trade?

Joe P. was a huge disappointment last year and Desmond Mason is a bit player with an absolutely piss poor 0.263 career three point shot.

[Brutalis]

Load of crap thread.

[Joe Schmoogins]

I dunno... it just doesn't seem like a "spur" move to drop bruce bowen, who has been so key throughout the years. They certainly wouldn't drop him for the soul purpose of becoming more athletic, especially at the expense of the defense. In return for Bowen they would have to get a defensive ace or an athletic gem... imo Bowen is more valuable to the spurs than he would be to any other team... furthermore, he would be of no value to the bucks. I guess we'll see.

[ss1986v2]

Joe... you have a point however the Spurs will do it if they become more athletic. they have been saying they want to become more athletic since early summer.
except even at 37, id bet bruce is one of the top 2 or 3 best athletes on the team. and its not like the "vanilla gorilla" is any more athletic than oberto or bonner. lateral move athleticism wise.

as for the trade, it doesnt make a lick of sense. for the bucks, you downgrade from CV to ike and pick up a player in bowen you have zero need for. for the portland, you swing a 3-for-2 deal when you are already short on roster spots, and dont even upgrade your roster anywhere.

[anakha]

there is a rumor I heard from a friend who is connected pretty well and I kinda believe him but not yet convinced




some how my friend leaked it to me


If you say so.

[Gsaz]

Joel will provide a lot of things for this team. Desmond provides athleticism and the Spurs get younger with this trade. don't think about the past think about the present.

[Dex]

Spurs would not and will not trade Bruce Bowen.

Next crazy trade theory, plz.

[DespЏrado]

Joel will provide a lot of things for this team. Desmond provides athleticism and the Spurs get younger with this trade. don't think about the past think about the present.

:lmao
You're telling me that with a total of 4 posts to your name, I am supposed to take your word for a trade that would significantly make the Spurs a worse team ?

Desmond Mason might have been a good backup for Bruce last year, but there is no way he should start for a championship team.

Joel Przybilla is not a priority having just resigned Kurt Thomas. They are similar players but KT is by far and a way a much better offensive player.

[timvp]

This trade doesn't pass the common sense test, the salary cap test or the collective bargaining agreement test.

[baseline bum]

Fucking troll

[T Park]

:lol

failure upon many many levels.

[timtonymanu]

for a second, i thought the spurs were actually making a deal until i saw who would be traded. it doesnt make any sense.

[Gsaz]

Suck my dick

[anakha]

Suck my dick

:lmao :lmao :lmao

[DespЏrado]

Suck my dick

And the troll lasts 5 posts...

[spurscenter]

why dont we trade Barack Obama for Hillary Clinton!

[duncan228]

:lmao

[your_pimp]

Take this with the ultimate grain of salt but there is a rumor I heard from a friend who is connected pretty well and I kinda believe him but not yet convinced. to get things going faster there is supposedly a 3 team trade being discussed heavily under closed doors and some how my friend leaked it to me but I will be kind enough to share. ( I just hope this doesn't get leaked to much.)

The details of the trade looks like this from what I was told.

Spurs trading Oberto/Bonner/ Bown

Spurs getting Joel Przybilla/ #2 pick via Portland / Desmond Mason

Portland trading Przybilla/#2 pick for Oberto/Charlie Villanueva/Matt Bonner

Bucks trading Charlie Villanueva/ Bucks getting Ike Diogu / Bruce Bowen

Don't take this seriously cause it's unsubstantial at this point.

The line-up will look like this..

C: Joel Przybilla
PF: Tim Duncan
SF: Desmond Mason
SG: Manu Ginobili
PG: Tony Parker

Dream on!

[T Park]

why dont we trade Barack Obama for Hillary Clinton!


Thats like trading Jacque Vaughn for Shane Heal....

[anakha]

Dream on!

And basic comprehension fails Louis. Again. :lmao

[your_pimp]

No one watns to trade for spurs scrubs

[T Park]

No one watns to trade for spurs scrubs


Huked on fonics werked fer mee

[anakha]

No one watns to trade for spurs scrubs

Did you even finish reading the thread, Louis? Everybody's laughing at the OP.

This is pretty pathetic, even by your standards. :lol

[Gsaz]

Fuck you faggots.

[anakha]

Fuck you faggots.

:lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao

[ss1986v2]

http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/8651/failbj5.jpg

[anakha]

^^ By two separate trolls, even.

[ss1986v2]

^^ By two separate trolls, even.
well, then i guess this one is pretty appropriate as well...

http://img182.imageshack.us/img182/8448/fail20at20failingfv5.jpg

[baseline bum]

http://img113.imageshack.us/img113/6089/threadsucksdd0.jpg

[Gsaz]

My penis is better then yourz

[T Park]

:lol

I wish I could post one of those cool "In before the close" movie clip thingies.

[ss1986v2]

:lol

I wish I could post one of those cool "In before the close" movie clip thingies.
ask and you shall receive...

Z1xqm7gmBjs

[Trainwreck2100]

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y126/Trainwreck2100/barkerfail.jpg


1ytCEuuW2_A

[Spurtacus]

Take this with the ultimate grain of salt but there is a rumor I heard from a friend who is connected pretty well and I kinda believe him but not yet convinced. to get things going faster there is supposedly a 3 team trade being discussed heavily under closed doors and some how my friend leaked it to me but I will be kind enough to share. ( I just hope this doesn't get leaked to much.)

The details of the trade looks like this from what I was told.

Spurs trading Oberto/Bonner/ Bown

Spurs getting Joel Przybilla/ #2 pick via Portland / Desmond Mason

Portland trading Przybilla/#2 pick for Oberto/Charlie Villanueva/Matt Bonner

Bucks trading Charlie Villanueva/ Bucks getting Ike Diogu / Bruce Bowen

Don't take this seriously cause it's unsubstantial at this point.

The line-up will look like this..

C: Joel Przybilla
PF: Tim Duncan
SF: Desmond Mason
SG: Manu Ginobili
PG: Tony Parker

Loser.

:lmao

[mountainballer]

hmmmm.
if Bruce was in his last year (which he isn't), I would think twice till I call this a totally unrealistic trade scenario.
(doesn anyone know if his last year isn't guaranteed, similar to Fab's ?)
I would think he is included to make the numbers game work, Spurs trow in the 3M cash allowed, he will he waived by the other team and comes back after a month. (especially since the Bucks absolutely don't need another SF, even not a defender, now that they have Jefferson)
it's no secrete that the Spurs tried hard to get big Prz in 2006 and have offered him a contract similar to the one he's currently on, so why should this have changed significantly. it's also not a secrete that Pop still likes the idea of playing a space eater in the middle.

Mason? why not. he can't shoot, right. but most of his other qualities look like a Spurs player profile.
(overall the trade doesn't look as absurd as some make it look. still hard to believe though)

[ss1986v2]

PU3s-I72NMQ

[baseline bum]

http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/1727/avgnss0.jpg

[ss1986v2]

epic fail: mavs edition...

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[Gsaz]

http://www.amateurallurephotos.com/gals/aa-lor06/vimgtn07.jpg

[Spurtacus]

http://www.amateurallurephotos.com/gals/aa-lor06/vimgtn07.jpg

red X = FAIL

[Trainwreck2100]

red X = FAIL

Its supposed to be a picture of a vagina

[TDMVPDPOY]

hey i just left a paperbag filled with goodies on your doorstep

i smell shit

[hsxvvd]

I heard from a friend who is connected pretty well

:lmao

[Tully365]

When you say your friend is "connected pretty well" do you mean to a basketball team, or is he connected to the swimming pool cleaning industry, or the hot dog vending world?

[ss1986v2]

red X = FAIL
damn, should have saved the blue screen shot. never thought i would have gotten the perfect set up for it. for gsaz (duh), me (too impatient...d'oh), and even you louis (no reason needed)...

http://img107.imageshack.us/img107/586/epicfaillo9.jpg

[anakha]

Fails at spreading rumors, fails at trashtalking, fails at posting pics.

All we need is a "You're all homers" crack and a "I know more than you" comment and this guy will have pretty much covered all his bases.

[JPB]

I've a friend who's connected with the FBF who told me you failed.

[SenorSpur]

As much as I would like to see the Spurs jettison both Bonner and Oberto, I just don't see this happening. I think you've been had.

[mrspurs]

this is how tuesday monan starts................ignored

[George Gervin's Afro]

" Heard it from a friend, who, who heard it from a friend, who heard from it from another that you've been messing around. They say you've got a boyfriend, that your out late every weekend..."

:(

[MajorMike]

I'd love to have DMase. He can't shoot the 3, but he sure can finish at the rim. He's a hell of a defender as well. Since we got rid of Barry, this would fill our void of having a past Sonic slam dunk champ.

[stretch]

Jonathan #2?

[urunobili]

C: Joel Przybilla would be a fine addition... :depressed

[Supergirl]

Anyone who thinks Bowen is going to get traded doesn't know the Spurs very well.

[anakha]

Jonathan #2?

Nah, the guy who actually claims to be an NBA agent is closer to being that.

[Supergirl]

As much as I would like to see the Spurs jettison both Bonner and Oberto, I just don't see this happening. I think you've been had.

I do not understand all the Oberto hate. Dude is the most capable C we've had to plug in next to Tim since David. Now, I am certainly not suggesting he's anywhere close to the caliber of player as David...but we're never gonna find that. David is a HOF center. All we need a C is someone who plays defense, can knock down a few shots, and man the paint. And Oberto has proven more effective than anyone else at doing that since Robinson retired. Thomas also showed himself to be capable, but we only saw him for half a season, so I'm waiting to see how a whole season plays out with him, although I am very optimistic it will be positive.

I certainly don't think Joe freaking Pryzbilla is gonna do any better. Oy.

[Indazone]

I'm liking all the pwnage. :owned

Carry on!


:lmao

[timtonymanu]

I do not understand all the Oberto hate. Dude is the most capable C we've had to plug in next to Tim since David. Now, I am certainly not suggesting he's anywhere close to the caliber of player as David...but we're never gonna find that. David is a HOF center. All we need a C is someone who plays defense, can knock down a few shots, and man the paint. And Oberto has proven more effective than anyone else at doing that since Robinson retired. Thomas also showed himself to be capable, but we only saw him for half a season, so I'm waiting to see how a whole season plays out with him, although I am very optimistic it will be positive.

I certainly don't think Joe freaking Pryzbilla is gonna do any better. Oy.

hmm... idk. i never was impressed by him. all i see him ever do is shoot an open layup.

[manufor3]

Dude, there is no way that's happening

[I. Hustle]

" Heard it from a friend, who, who heard it from a friend, who heard from it from another that you've been messing around. They say you've got a boyfriend, that your out late every weekend..."

:(

Damn I was going to post that

[MajorMike]

I think the more humorous thing about all the trade posts (like the after Pargo signs and trade for Noc posts and ones like this) is that people are assuming teams would WANT Vaughn, Oberto and Bonner.

Yeah, let that sink in for a minute.

[edgar]

I don't buy it, it was entertaining to my mind though to read

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

I'd love to have Przybilla but fuck that trade.

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

This trade doesn't pass the common sense test, the salary cap test or the collective bargaining agreement test.

:tu

PWNED.

:lmao

[SenorSpur]

Anyone who thinks Bowen is going to get traded doesn't know the Spurs very well.

....or Popovich either

[tmtcsc]

Take this with the ultimate grain of salt but there is a rumor I heard from a friend who is connected pretty well and I kinda believe him but not yet convinced. to get things going faster there is supposedly a 3 team trade being discussed heavily under closed doors and some how my friend leaked it to me but I will be kind enough to share. ( I just hope this doesn't get leaked to much.)

The details of the trade looks like this from what I was told.

Spurs trading Oberto/Bonner/ Bown

Spurs getting Joel Przybilla/ #2 pick via Portland / Desmond Mason

Portland trading Przybilla/#2 pick for Oberto/Charlie Villanueva/Matt Bonner

Bucks trading Charlie Villanueva/ Bucks getting Ike Diogu / Bruce Bowen

Don't take this seriously cause it's unsubstantial at this point.

The line-up will look like this..

C: Joel Przybilla
PF: Tim Duncan
SF: Desmond Mason
SG: Manu Ginobili
PG: Tony Parker

Complete Bullshit. Don't underestimate the people who follow this forum. Most people in here know you just made this whole thing up. Not even close.

[tmtcsc]

Hahhhhahhaa, I didn't even bother reading all the replies before I posted my response. Good Lord, thanks for pre-backing me up folks. The responses were awesome !

[kupogrey]

this thread makes a whole wagon full of sense

[JamStone]

I'd love to have DMase. He can't shoot the 3, but he sure can finish at the rim. He's a hell of a defender as well. Since we got rid of Barry, this would fill our void of having a past Sonic slam dunk champ.

He doesn't fit the Spurs system.

Hey, where did he go to school?

[Slomo]

This trade doesn't pass the common sense test, the salary cap test or the collective bargaining agreement test.

Brutal! :lol

[DROB4EVER]

Wouldnt mind having Joel or Mason but it will never happen, Spurs not comming off that 2010 salary cap room.

[angelbelow]

i doubt bowen is traded. he means too much to this franchise. although i may be speaking out of emotions.

[td4mvp21]

If it didn't include Bowen I would have taken it a little more seriously. And by a little, I mean still not at all.

[vander]

Anyone who thinks Bowen is going to get traded doesn't know the Spurs very well.

but we can dream can't we, oh how I would love to unload Bowen and Oberto. nothing against Bowen, but he's just too old and has too much money coming his way

[Spurs Brazil]

crap

[MajorMike]

He doesn't fit the Spurs system.

Hey, where did he go to school?

Hey plays defense and he rebounds well.

You are right, complete non-fit for the Spurs.

[beachwood]

This thread is awesome.

[JamStone]

Hey plays defense and he rebounds well.

You are right, complete non-fit for the Spurs.

He's a shooting guard that can't shoot on a team that loves to surround its stars with role players that are great spot up shooters. Plus, the Spurs are trying to get younger. Athletic as Mason is, he doesn't help in that area in terms of being a young kid to help for more than one year.

Bad fit.

[spursnatic]

:lol You expect us to believe that the Spurs would even consider such a trade?

Joe P. was a huge disappointment last year and Desmond Mason is a bit player with an absolutely piss poor 0.263 career three point shot. But the Spurs did try to get Joel a year or to ago, and he opted to stay with Portland? I would still hate to lose Bowen.

[I. Hustle]

http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll251/kumiwut/this-thread-is-gay.jpg

[rj215]

Bowen has lost a step but he's one of Pop's favorites and he's still one of the elite wing defenders in the league. No way is he getting traded...yet.

As far as the roster goes, what you see now is what you get for '09 IMHO.

[EvaLongoria]

no wayyyyyyyy !!!!! Bruce is going nowhere baby !!!!!!!!!

[vander]

so wait, is Bruce going somewhere?

[peacemaker885]

so wait, is Bruce going somewhere?

Bruce isn't going anywhere. As stated many times before, this is a bogus thread.

[sehui]

wouldnt it suck donkey balls if this guy was right? lol

[timtonymanu]

wow this thread actually turned into a "hot" thread.

[AusSpursFan]

Bucks considering three-way deal

this is on ESPN insider, anyone got access to check it out?

[ss1986v2]

Bucks considering three-way deal

this is on ESPN insider, anyone got access to check it out?

its this:

http://news-herald.townnews.com/articles/2008/08/10/sports/doc489e70ff6f55c301173198.txt

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

Bucks considering three-way deal

this is on ESPN insider, anyone got access to check it out?


A league source said the Cavs might be pursuing Bucks point guard Mo Williams. All the details aren’t known, but the Cavs, Bucks and Oklahoma City (formerly Seattle) are reportedly involved.
http://news-herald.townnews.com/articles/2008/08/10/sports/doc489e70ff6f55c301173198.txt

[rascal]

wouldnt it suck donkey balls if this guy was right? lol

Not at all. Its better to trade Bowen a year early than a year late. The spurs need to start thinking about getting a real sf that can play on both ends of the floor.

[rascal]

Bowen has lost a step but he's one of Pop's favorites and he's still one of the elite wing defenders in the league. No way is he getting traded...yet.

As far as the roster goes, what you see now is what you get for '09 IMHO.

The roster as it is now won't get past the 2nd round of the playoffs next year.

[Avitus1]

Wow.... WTF?

[VaSpursFan]

:lmao:lmao:lmaowow...worst trade proposal ever

[Walton Buys Off Me]

How does a thread started by a guy with an 8 post count and begins with the typical "I heard from a friend" generate four pages of replies?

I thought this forum was better than that.

[FromWayDowntown]

:lmao:lmao:lmaowow...worst trade proposal ever

Zach Randolph and Nate Robinson for Tim Duncan.

Now the trade proposed in this thread is no longer the worst trade proposal ever.

[iggypop123]

the offseason is dead already. its time to just count the days till october 28. atleast for the lakers

[hater]

not happening.

But it does bring up a point. Bowen a huge trade asset, but noone ever mentions him in trades

[timtonymanu]

not happening.

But it does bring up a point. Bowen a huge trade asset, but noone ever mentions him in trades

because losing bowen is like losing one of the big 3. i think the big 3 plus bowen is untouchable.

[hater]

because losing bowen is like losing one of the big 3. i think the big 3 plus bowen is untouchable.

I agree. But it does not mean we can't mention Bowen in possible trades.(TP, Manu have been mentioned) Which has not happened.

[jay014]

Bowen is going to suck next year. It showed in the Lakers series. Trade him, he is not untouchable he is as tradable as Bonner.

[LION]

I agree Bowen has been on my no trade list.
However, never say never..
If I could get the right deal, make some room salary for other players we have our eyes on that it might be worth it.

Let's keep an eye out for Linas Klieza - playing for Lithuania -Denver Nugget

Also, how about thinking out of the box and asking that 6' 11" American Beach Olympic Volleyball SHOTBLOCKING STAR if he wants to visit San Antonio. Quick & Athletic is an understatement! Skinny maybe .. so was David when he arrived in S.A.

[spursnatic]

:flag::lobt::lobt::lobt::lobt::lobt2:
Bowen is going to suck next year. It showed in the Lakers series. Trade him, he is not untouchable he is as tradable as Bonner. YEAH FUCKING RIGHT!!! If I was a GM I would trade Bonner for a washer dryer!! Bowen is way bigger part to this team than Bonner ever will be.
:lobt::lobt::lobt::lobt::lobt2::flag:

[vander]

Bowen is going to suck next year. It showed in the Lakers series. Trade him, he is not untouchable he is as tradable as Bonner.

word, bowen will not be an asset on the court next year

[jay014]

YEAH FUCKING RIGHT!!! If I was a GM I would trade Bonner for a washer dryer!! Bowen is way bigger part to this team than Bonner ever will be.

I didn't say Bonner played a bigger part than Bowen. Just said you can trade Bowen just like you can trade Bonner. I'd rather see Bowen come off the bench. Nobody is untouchable except maybe Tim.

[Gsaz]

You know the only reason i got raged is that you guys have no fucking respect for someone who is kind enough to share something with you.

[ss1986v2]

You know the only reason i got raged is that you guys have no fucking respect for someone who is kind enough to share something with you.
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[anakha]

You know the only reason i got raged is that you guys have no fucking respect for someone who is kind enough to share something with you.

:lmao :lmao :lmao

After your childish meltdown yesterday, you deserve no respect at all.

[Sean Cagney]

Bowen is going to suck next year. It showed in the Lakers series. Trade him, he is not untouchable he is as tradable as Bonner.

Nobody is tradeable as BONNER IS... NOBODY except Vaughn maybe.

[Gsaz]

After your childish meltdown yesterday, you deserve no respect at all.

Childish? that was you guys disrespecting me, when I was kind enough to share Information with you.

you guys keep saying Pop loves Bruce but he also loves athletic wing players. the Spurs have loved Desmond Mason since he was with Seattle.

[Spurtacus]

You know the only reason i got raged is that you guys have no fucking respect for someone who is kind enough to share something with you.

Do you enjoy it when someone shares their shit from the toilet with you? I don't.

[timtonymanu]

Childish? that was you guys disrespecting me, when I was kind enough to share Information with you.

you guys keep saying Pop loves Bruce but he also loves athletic wing players. the Spurs have loved Desmond Mason since he was with Seattle.

if u wanted us to take u seriously, you shouldnt have posted replies such as "suck my dick". instead u should have defended urself by proving ur information is legit, but u failed to by acting childish.

[anakha]

Childish?


Suck my dick


Fuck you faggots.


My penis is better then yourz


http://www.amateurallurephotos.com/gals/aa-lor06/vimgtn07.jpg

:rolleyes

[Ice009]

Why is this thread still open???????? Shouldn't it be locked an deleted by now?????

[mrspurs]

Why is this thread still open???????? Shouldn't it be locked an deleted by now?????

yeah no joke, i know im a rookie and all, but my last post deja vu, had facts and actual concerns the spurs needed addressing.....they let it live about 3 seconds.........this one is still alive.......you wanna know what i really think?.....................................not much:p:

[Ignignokt]

Lesson no. 1

Spurstalk members can be tools to newcomers.

[anakha]

Lesson no. 1

Spurstalk members can be tools to newcomers.

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=5270

Depends on what you bring to the table.

[Walton Buys Off Me]

But it does bring up a point. Bowen a huge trade asset, but noone ever mentions him in trades

Wrong.

The Spurs have nobody close to Bowen in terms of perimeter defense and because the officiating in this league is a cross between the WWE and the Chinese Olympic Committee, Bowen's reputation alone gets him 2x more favourable 'non-calls' than anydoby not named Shane Battier.

Bowen's slowing down but who isn't? He stays.

[TJastal]

Childish? that was you guys disrespecting me, when I was kind enough to share Information with you.

you guys keep saying Pop loves Bruce but he also loves athletic wing players. the Spurs have loved Desmond Mason since he was with Seattle.

If Pop really thought the spurs needed an athletic swingman (which they do, but obviously he doesn't) they would have drafted Donte Green

Desmond Mason is a good athletic scoring wing, but can't shoot a good % from outside of 10 feet, not sure how that would mesh with the spurs' offense, which requires people to have the ability to knock down the wide open 3

[ambchang]

How could Bowen be a trade asset? He is an important role player on this team because of the system. He is practically useless on most other teams, and he is 37 years old. Bowen's trade value is much lower than his actual value on the Spurs, meaning that the Spurs will never get anything remotely close to his value to the team by trading him, which translates to Bowen != trade asset.

[nkdlunch]

How could Bowen be a trade asset? He is an important role player on this team because of the system. He is practically useless on most other teams, and he is 37 years old.

:rolleyes

top perimeter defender in the league + 40% career 3pt shooting = good trade asset

[ambchang]

:rolleyes

top perimeter defender in the league + 40% career 3pt shooting = good trade asset

Which teams would want him?

Please explain.

[DPG21920]

Which teams would want him?

Please explain.

Every single major title contender.

[ambchang]

Every single major title contender.

Celtics - Bowen could be useful here, but how many minutes will he get behind Ray Allen and Paul Pierce? Besides, who can the Spurs get back from them? What kind of trade asset would he be if he got someone who is a downgrade for the Spurs?

Lakers – Bowen’s lack of handle and offense does not fit with the Lakers at all. His defense would be a welcome relief for the Lakers, but without a strong interior defender, his effectiveness would be minimized. Not a fit at all.

Jazz – Could be placed at the SG position for stretches, but his lack of offense outside of the corner 3 does not fit with the Jazz. Again, who can the Spurs get back for him?

Hornets – Does not fit into the youth movement, could be a replacement for Mo Pete, but why would either team do that? What kind of asset would land you Mo Pete?

Pistons – Prince already got the position covered.

Mavs – If iso plays are still part of their offense, Bowen will not fit. Depends on new coach.

Suns – Forget about it.

Houston – Battier and Artest got the bases covered.

Cavs – Not really a contender to begin with, and Bowen’s age simply does not fit into their long range plans.

In conclusion, only the Celtics, and maybe the Jazz, Hornets and Mavs could use Bowen, and none of the teams can give the Spurs anything of value back. How is that a trade asset?

[spurs50_]

I don't think the Spurs are trying to trade anyone. I think the front office is sitting on its hands watching the NBA world go by.

[Buddy Holly]

Bonner + Oberto for Nocioni.

[FromWayDowntown]

I really think that the Spurs front office doesn't care one bit about winning -- I'm sure that's actually true of the Spurs' players as well.

[vander]

I really think that the Spurs front office doesn't care one bit about winning -- I'm sure that's actually true of the Spurs' players as well.

:lol

while they probably do care about winning, they haven't worked for it, or had to work for it. Take the 97 lottery away from this team and we have 0 championships and this FO was replaced and replaced again by now. with an aging Duncan and Manu, now we'll start to see if this FO (and Pop) has any real ability.

so far? not so good.

[remingtonbo2001]

I really think that the Spurs front office doesn't care one bit about winning -- I'm sure that's actually true of the Spurs' players as well.

I'd rephrase that statement. The Spurs top priority isn't winning, but having a positive and cohesive work enviroment. I believe loyality is more significant to the Spurs than winning.

I offer the following question. Which is more important to you; Having a well paying job which you enjoy, or the number of championship trophies the Spurs win during the Duncan era?

[MajorMike]

Take this with the ultimate grain of salt but there is a rumor I heard from a friend who is connected pretty well and I kinda believe him but not yet convinced. to get things going faster there is supposedly a 3 team trade being discussed heavily under closed doors and some how my friend leaked it to me but I will be kind enough to share. ( I just hope this doesn't get leaked to much.)

The details of the trade looks like this from what I was told.

Spurs trading Oberto/Bonner/ Bown

Spurs getting Joel Przybilla/ #2 pick via Portland / Desmond Mason

Portland trading Przybilla/#2 pick for Oberto/Charlie Villanueva/Matt Bonner

Bucks trading Charlie Villanueva/ Bucks getting Ike Diogu / Bruce Bowen

Don't take this seriously cause it's unsubstantial at this point.

The line-up will look like this..

C: Joel Przybilla
PF: Tim Duncan
SF: Desmond Mason
SG: Manu Ginobili
PG: Tony Parker

Ok... I called dumbass on this one too....

HOWEVER, the Bucks did just make a 3-way trade involving OKC and the Cavs and involving Mason.

There MAY have been some small shred of truth to this after all.

The Bucks were obviously looking for trade partners and may have floated an idea to SA. I'm just saying, dude has some cred restored here.

[ss1986v2]

Ok... I called dumbass on this one too....

HOWEVER, the Bucks did just make a 3-way trade involving OKC and the Cavs and involving Mason.

There MAY have been some small shred of truth to this after all.

The Bucks were obviously looking for trade partners and may have floated an idea to SA. I'm just saying, dude has some cred restored here.
http://news-herald.townnews.com/articles/2008/08/10/sports/doc489e70ff6f55c301173198.txt

article from 3 days ago. this has been rumored since before the "inside info" was posted. dont see how this trade lends any cred to the OP.

[MajorMike]

So, you are providing a link with no mention of Mason as proof that SA was never approached with a deal about him...

[ss1986v2]

So, you are providing a link with no mention of Mason as proof that SA was never approached with a deal about him...
not providing proof of anything. just wondering how a three team trade between mil/cle/okc thats been discussed for a while now lends any cred to the OP? how does the OPs trade make any more sense then it did yesterday morning and wheres the connection to the aforementioned trade?

[MajorMike]

Ok, I see you are a color by numbers guy.

#1 - Bucks obviously shopping for trade partners to dump expiring salaries.
#2 - There was no mention Mason in the article as trade bait, yet he was indeed thrown in the mix of the trade, so the Bucks were obviously dangling him as part of a trade.
#3 - Making that up out of the blue when there are some things obviously afoot is more than I give him credit for.

[nkdlunch]

Which teams would want him?

Please explain.

This is like asking which teams would want Shane Battier. Please think.

[FromWayDowntown]

I'd rephrase that statement. The Spurs top priority isn't winning, but having a positive and cohesive work enviroment. I believe loyality is more significant to the Spurs than winning.

I offer the following question. Which is more important to you; Having a well paying job which you enjoy, or the number of championship trophies the Spurs win during the Duncan era?

Actually, my statement was entirely sarcastic. I believe the Spurs front office and the players are entirely committed to winning, just as they have been for the last decade. I don't think the Spurs' moves have much to do with the cohesion of the workplace, except to the extent that its easier to win when everyone is on the same page.

As for your question, there's no doubt in my mind that the more important thing to me is having a well-paying job that I enjoy and, luckily, the number of championships the Spurs win during the Tim Duncan era has nothing to do with whether I can maintain a good paying job that I enjoy. Now, if your question is whether Tim Duncan would prefer to maintain a good paying job that he enjoys or to win more championships, I'm guessing it's the latter. And if your question is whether R.C. Buford would prefer to maintain a good paying job that he enjoys or to win more championships, I'm guessing it's also the latter.

People in professional sports are in it to win. The notion that the Spurs don't care about winning is ridiculous to me.

[I. Hustle]

Ok, I see you are a color by numbers guy.



I went through all that other crap for this one line :lol

[lefty]

Let's trave for D Wade

That way, we'll get all the calls

[ambchang]

This is like asking which teams would want Shane Battier. Please think.

Shane Battier is 30 years old, Bowen is 37.
Battier is a better offensive player.
Bowen is a great defensive player, but how many teams are as devoted to defense as the Spurs that they would be willingly give up something valuable for Bowen?

Now it's your turn to think.

[rascal]

Shane Battier is 30 years old, Bowen is 37.
Battier is a better offensive player.
Bowen is a great defensive player, but how many teams are as devoted to defense as the Spurs that they would be willingly give up something valuable for Bowen?

Now it's your turn to think.


Bowen is nothing more than a role player situational defensive replacement for most teams. And that is what he should be transitioning to on the spurs. Playing him starter minutes will bring the team down.

[SequSpur]

you guys have to much time on your hands.

[cherylsteele]

Ok... I called dumbass on this one too....

HOWEVER, the Bucks did just make a 3-way trade involving OKC and the Cavs and involving Mason.

There MAY have been some small shred of truth to this after all.

The Bucks were obviously looking for trade partners and may have floated an idea to SA. I'm just saying, dude has some cred restored here.
The only similarity is the number of teams involved.

[MajorMike]

Battier is a better offensive player.

Now it's your turn to think.


Agreed. 9 points a game is worlds above 6 points a game; truely superior.

[Bartleby]

Actually, one could argue that Bruce is just as good an offensive player as Battier. Shane has better FG and FT percentages, but Bruce is much better from three point range.

[mountainballer]

Actually, one could argue that Bruce is just as good an offensive player as Battier. Shane has better FG and FT percentages, but Bruce is much better from three point range.

only one who has never ever seen either Battier or Bruce play would argue like this. Battier's role in the Houston offense is much more important than Bruce, who more or less does nothing but shoot his open 3s from the corner.

[Bartleby]

Yeah, three point shooting isn't a very big part of the Spurs offense anyway.

[mountainballer]

uh, you are right.
quick, let's trade Tony for Damon Jones!!!

[Bartleby]

Great idea. Better yet, how about Duncan for Bargnani? Then, instead of having your supporting players spread the floor with their three point shooting, everybody could stand outside the three point line and bomb away.

[ambchang]

Agreed. 9 points a game is worlds above 6 points a game; truely superior.

You are right. PPG is the only thing that measures offense, because we all know Kidd is a terrible offensive player judging by his PPG, FG% and 3P%