USA v Greece

[MannyIsGod]

God I hate the Greek team. Kick their ass please.

[MannyIsGod]

Oh and the refs fucking blowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww

[jmard5]

Score please?

And any links for the play-by-play?

[MannyIsGod]

11-9 Greece so far. I have no idea where you'd get play by play but you can check online for a stream.

[ace3g]

Greece Baby Shaq is in the game

[ace3g]

and he just got a and 1

[Mal]

any link to video ?

[ace3g]

http://www.nbcolympics.com/basketball/index.html

[MannyIsGod]

Man, why do people ask for links? Use google.

LOL Wade with the legal goal tend. Awesome.

[jmard5]

Got one.

http://sports.espn.go.com/oly/summer08/basketball/men/playbyplay?gameId=776

[MI21]

The referees are terrible. USA look terrible.

I don't like the Greek team, so I'll be rooting for the USA. Although my local station has just cut away to watch some Aussies in swimming HEATS. Fuck sake.

Vagina Spaghetti had a nice play to start the game, I'm sure Kill Bill almost blew.

[naico]

Good defense by the US. Gotta rebound though, Baby Shas is controling the boards

[1Parker1]

Go Greece :) :lol Anything to help Argentina along...

[MannyIsGod]

Go Greece :) :lol Anything to help Argentina along...

WTF?!?!?!?!?!?!?! Fuck Greece and fuck Argentina!!!!

[MannyIsGod]

WTF @ these refs??? LOL

[naico]

Wade should be in the fucking starting line-up.

[MannyIsGod]

20-16 USA after on. Considering they were playing the refs (JKidd 3 fouls in 1:30 LOL) and the Greek team thats not bad.

[UCantHandleTheTruth]

Wade is so fucking amazing. I almost forgot how good this guy was due to his injury plagued year where he didn't have his typical explosiveness and was on a pitiful team.

[MannyIsGod]

HOLY SHIT !!!!!!!!

Dwayne mfin Wade!!!!!!

[MannyIsGod]

God, that pass was fucking AMAZING.

[MI21]

20-16 USA after on. Considering they were playing the refs (JKidd 3 fouls in 1:30 LOL) and the Greek team thats not bad.

Cool.

USA looked nervous and terrible early on, nice to see they responded and took the lead.

Now all I need is for my olympic channel to put the fucking game back on.

[naico]

Wade is everywhere!!

[UCantHandleTheTruth]

Oh shit, the Greeks are getting fucked up now.

[MannyIsGod]

So much for the theory we woudnl't be able to dunk on Greece.

[MannyIsGod]

Jesus Christ I woudln't want these refs at my YMCA.

[MI21]

How on earth do you let that pass get over the top of the press?

[smeagol]

Go Greece :) :lol Anything to help Argentina along...

:makeout

:rollin

[MI21]

Nice attack LeBron... Throw it down on these fuckers those fuckers next time!

[TacoCabanaFajitas]

If you have DirectTv the game is on channel 750 in HD

[MI21]

Nice pass Kobe... and finish Wade.

Once against my TV cuts away to swimming heats. For fuck sake.

[MannyIsGod]

Man, if I'm Shawn Marion I'm creaming my pants at this version of Wade.

[MannyIsGod]

God damn he looks SO good.

[UCantHandleTheTruth]

Dwyane Wade...I Am Not Worthy.

[TacoCabanaFajitas]

Wade channeling Ginobili on that move?

[lebomb]

Scores MFs SCORES!!! Dont leave us in the dark!!!!

[UCantHandleTheTruth]

We are all witnesses.

[MannyIsGod]

38-28 Usa

[MannyIsGod]

Nice finish by Bosh. That was a shady foul, I really though Bosh was going down hard.

[UCantHandleTheTruth]

Chris Bosh is one ugly mother fucker. Good lord.

[UCantHandleTheTruth]

LeBron!

The Greeks are getting beatdown now. US is playing awesome.

[MannyIsGod]

:lol


Lebron is a beast man. Just a flat out Beast. His defense has been so good in this olympics..

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

Why do the USA jerseys have that like gray/light blue design on the back?

[whottt]

I feel sorry for whoever winds up playing the USA in the gold medal game...

[MannyIsGod]

I feel sorry for whoever winds up playing the USA in the gold medal game...

This is the first game we've seen them try very hard. Holy shit man, its pretty sick. The defense is sooooooooooooo stiffling.

50-31 USA at the half.

[MannyIsGod]

BTW Bosh >>>>>>>> Vspan

[whottt]

Cool....next game is against Spain.

[Holt's Cat]

Bosh blocks Vagisil to end the half.

[1Parker1]

:makeout

:rollin


:lol Frankly I can't stand the collective cockiness of Team USA. And Kobe winning a gold medal can only hype him as the next MJ even more.

[whottt]

This is the first game we've seen them try very hard. Holy shit man, its pretty sick. The defense is sooooooooooooo stiffling.

50-31 USA at the half.

They haven't been motivated yet...they are motivated against this team.

They're really going to be motivated against Spain and Argentina...

And they are reeaaaaaaaallllllly going to be motivated in the Gold Medal game.


This team is so much better than the 04 team and even the 06 team it isn't even funny.

[MannyIsGod]

Yeah thats pretty much how I see it.

BTW, where are those who said they woudln't be able to dunk on Greece? So far there are more posters from this game than from the Angola game.

[JamStone]

Why do the USA jerseys have that like gray/light blue design on the back?

They are woven designs that have to do with American culture. The Chinese have similar Chinese cultural designs on the back of their jerseys. I don't know if all countries are doing it, but I saw a local news segment about them.

[baseline bum]

Holy fuck, Bosh looks like a young David Robinson today.

[polandprzem]

Nobody is talking about refs now?


:rolleyes

[SpurCapita]

Thank God Kidd picked up those early fouls...and to an extent, Howard, too. The more Bosh and Wade, the better. They're bringing more energy than the other 8 people on the floor combined. :ihit

[MannyIsGod]

Nobody is talking about refs now?


:rolleyes

Tired of saying they suck. They were horrible all through the first half but Dwayne Wade, Bosh, and Lebron are playing so well it doesn't matter.

[whottt]

Nobody is talking about refs now?


:rolleyes

These refs aren't B league refs. The ones in 04 were...the 04 refs were not regular refs, they were replacement refs. They reffed like it.

[polandprzem]

Tired of saying they suck. They were horrible all through the first half but Dwayne Wade, Bosh, and Lebron are playing so well it doesn't matter.

blah blah blah


:flipoff

[MannyIsGod]

blah blah blah


:flipoff

Like I said, I woudln't want these refs doing YMCA games. They're just bad. The 3 fouls on JKidd were so laughable. Most of the early calls were.

[bee01]

The foul on Deron after Vagisil ripped his arm off was laughably bad.

[polandprzem]

Like I said, I woudln't want these refs doing YMCA games. They're just bad. The 3 fouls on JKidd were so laughable. Most of the early calls were.

Still talking ? :lol


Ok - I haven't seen most of the first quarter and begining of 2nd. (:cuss: stream )
But I hate taking blame on refs all the time.
Refs are humans they also can fuck things up, just like sportsmen for sake.

At last States showing they can play max defense. Greece is a decent opponent so the value is being tested.
Hopefully Greece can pull some nice runs in the 2nd half to make it a good piece of basketball.

[MI21]

Just caught up on the 2nd quarter now. USA were incredible. Very good defense.

Coming from a neutral (even though I'm rooting for the USA) the reffing has been terrible. In particular that call on Deron after he got stripped of it. Terrible. The unsportsmanlike on Kobe. Terrible.

Good call on Bosh, Base. I love his enthusiasm, he really looks like he wants to win not for him, but for his country.

[MI21]

Still talking ? :lol


Ok - I haven't seen most of the first quarter and begining of 2nd. (:cuss: stream )
But I hate taking blame on refs all the time.
Refs are humans they also can fuck things up, just like sportsmen for sake.

At last States showing they can play max defense. Greece is a decent opponent so the value is being tested.
Hopefully Greece can pull some nice runs in the 2nd half to make it a good piece of basketball.

I hate blaming refs, my country isn't playing and I can tell you that the referees were terrible and the USA were on the end of the majority of those shockers.

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

Nice J by Kobe.

[benefactor]

You're amazing Kobe...I still hate you though.

[benefactor]

Defense is looking really good. If we win gold that will be the reason.

[polandprzem]

Good decisions with the corner treys by States - the 'same' range as in NBA

[stretch]

lol @ v-span sucking dick

where the hell is KBP? faggot.

[MannyIsGod]

Great pass from Jkidd.

Eat it Kill Bill - Eat it.

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

Nice pass by Kidd.

[MannyIsGod]

Holy shit if that pass to Lebron had worked..... :lol

[1Parker1]

It would definitely take a miracle and a team playing completely out of its mind at the right time to beat this team USA. I think the biggest difference maker this year has been Lebron. I know Kobe supposedly defends the opposing team's best player, Wade has been leading the team in scoring, Kidd is their voice in the lockerroom, etc. but Lebron James has never played better at BOTH ends of the floor. To me, he's the MVP of this team. Who would you guys say?

[benefactor]

Stop showboating and play ball....

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

Lebron stuffs it down VSpan's throat.

[bee01]

Kidd follows up an amazing pass with a lob off the backboard to nobody :lol

[benefactor]

C'mon Bosh...you can do better than that.

[JamStone]

First Brandon Roy gets knee surgery and tlong disappears. Now Kill Bill getting killed?

If this is a dream, don't wake me up.

[benefactor]

OMG...double rim ownage.

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

James with another stuff.

[MannyIsGod]

It would definitely take a miracle and a team playing completely out of its mind at the right time to beat this team USA. I think the biggest difference maker this year has been Lebron. I know Kobe supposedly defends the opposing team's best player, Wade has been leading the team in scoring, Kidd is their voice in the lockerroom, etc. but Lebron James has never played better at BOTH ends of the floor. To me, he's the MVP of this team. Who would you guys say?

His D is fucking amazing right now. Wade has been incredibly strong as well, but Lebron is just easily the best player on that court at all times.

Man this team controls the airspace so badly.

[MannyIsGod]

Kill Bill is like a roach man. Not even this nuclear bomb like blast will kill him.

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

:lmao Carmelo rimstuffs himself.

[stretch]

It would definitely take a miracle and a team playing completely out of its mind at the right time to beat this team USA. I think the biggest difference maker this year has been Lebron. I know Kobe supposedly defends the opposing team's best player, Wade has been leading the team in scoring, Kidd is their voice in the lockerroom, etc. but Lebron James has never played better at BOTH ends of the floor. To me, he's the MVP of this team. Who would you guys say?

Lebron and Wade have definitely been the two best players.

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

Wade hacked on the 3.

[lebomb]

Score please............

[MannyIsGod]

70-52

[jmard5]

Chris Paul really looks like he is wearing a skirt. His shorts is to baggy...

[stretch]

i hope that all discussion about "Carmello Anthony is the best international player in the world" dies down. ive always said the guy is overrated, and i dont even think he deserves to be starting. i would rather have michael redd or deron williams start. carmello is a bitch.

[polandprzem]

still - it's a turnament

[MannyIsGod]

Carmello was the best in the WCs 2 years ago. But yeah, he's not been all that good this time around while Lebron and Wade have really really brought their A games.

[benefactor]

Why is Bosh trying to take a charge? Block the shot.

[MannyIsGod]

still - it's a turnament

Yeah, its a tournament for the rest of the world and the silver and bronze medals.

The US is here just to pick up their gold.

[benefactor]

Wade and Bron OWN the nation of Greece...

[polandprzem]

Yeah, its a tournament for the rest of the world and the silver and bronze medals.

The US is here just to pick up their gold.

Like in Athens

[benefactor]

Greek Baby Shaq = Tractor Traylor

[phyzik]

Man, is anyone paying attention to the live commentary from nbcolympics.com WOAI feed? there are some nice gems in their! :lol

"GRE cannot have those unforced turnovers...there are plenty of forced ones already."

"Wade takes a page from Kobes book and kicks his leg out to draw a foul."

:lol

[MannyIsGod]

Like in Athens

More like in Barcelona, Atlanta and Sydney.

[whottt]

Like in Athens


LeBron was 19 years old in Athens...


Plus we have actual PG's that can distribute now, instead of AI and Starbury chucking up 30% FGA.


Plus, even though the stats don't show it, this team is a hudred times better perimeter team than the 04 team.

[stretch]

Like in Athens

and poland was... where?

[MannyIsGod]

Should Lebron count as 2 people?

[polandprzem]

More like in Barcelona, Atlanta and Sydney.

:lol


Like in Idianapolis World Chapionships :tu

[1Parker1]

Should Lebron count as 2 people?

:lol Seriously. I can't imagine how good he's going to be once the Cavs (or Nets in the future :)) get a 2nd quality player next to him. That's truly all he needs.

[lebomb]

man.....both teams are throwing up bricks now.

[polandprzem]

lmao they can spell Krzyzewski name right

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

:lol


Like in Idianapolis World Chapionships :tu


and poland was... where?

[stretch]

:lol Seriously. I can't imagine how good he's going to be once the Cavs (or Nets in the future :)) get a 2nd quality player next to him. That's truly all he needs.

well now they got Mo Williams... thats a very nice addition right there.

[polandprzem]

and poland was... where?

In Europe


You know where Europe is?

[dimsah]

Boozer is horrible.

[whottt]

:lol


Like in Idianapolis World Chapionships :tu



The USA has won like 3 World Championships...total. Only won one in the Dream Team era. We ALWAYS suck there. There are like 30 people in the US that even know there is a basketball World Championship.

[whottt]

Chris Paul hasn't got a clue how to play International Ball yet...when he figures it out, this team will be blowing people out by 40 and 50 points.

[polandprzem]

The USA has won like 3 World Championships...total. Only won one in the Dream Team era. We ALWAYS suck there. There are like 30 people in the US that even know there is a basketball World Championship.

You think that's good?

[whottt]

You think that's good?


Whether it's good or not...it's the truth.

[polandprzem]

If America don't know something they think it has no value.

Or when america suck at something they think it's good to say - the discipline is minor, nobody watching it etc.

You call it arrogance? Cockiness?

[stretch]

In Europe


You know where Europe is?

no please inform me. also inform me where they were in terms of competing in the basketball olympics.

[polandprzem]

Whether it's good or not...it's the truth.

so?

You are happy about amnericans having no knowledge?


Are you happy about their stupidity as well?

[polandprzem]

no please inform me. also inform me where they were in terms of competing in the basketball olympics.

www.google.com

[whottt]

I'd call it neither...you guys don't give a shit about baseball, does that make you arrogant or cocky?

It's just the way it is...FIBA WC's just aren't that big of a deal, for whatever reason...point is, it's a mistake to judge Team USA in the Olympics by what they did in the WC's.

Team USA hasn't won the WC since 1994...

[samikeyp]

Good game against a good team. Team defense was outstanding. I still think they are falling in love with the 3 a little much but still a great effort.

[samikeyp]

I'd call it neither...you guys don't give a shit about baseball, does that make you arrogant or cocky?

It's just the way it is...FIBA WC's just aren't that big of a deal, for whatever reason...point is, it's a mistake to judge Team USA in the Olympics by what they did in the WC's.

Team USA hasn't won the WC since 1994...

Good point. All that matters is what is going on right now and right now, Team USA looks very good.

[stretch]

www.google.com

neat. found absolutely nothing about poland doing shit in the olympics.

also found that a major reason the US hasnt won many world championship is because in the majority of them, pro players didnt even play. the best player on the 1998 team was Brad Miller, and he wasnt even in the NBA at that time. 2002 had a lot of the top players bail on the team. 2006 was a fluke, but the US still didnt have all their best players for that team either.

[whottt]

We don't give a shit about Water Polo either...


Or Rugby...and we're the defending champs in Olympic Rugby.


I don't know what to tell you. Somestuff people care about, and some stuff they don't...same as everywhere else.



What's really fucked up is that football is the best game ever and none of you guys care about it...

Why?

Stupidity?
Arrogance?
Cockiness?


I mean...ya'll care about Water Polo but not NFL? That's screwed up.

[stretch]

so?

You are happy about amnericans having no knowledge?


Are you happy about their stupidity as well?

lol, butthurt

[stretch]

We don't give a shit about Water Polo either...


Or Rugby...and we're the defending champs in Olympic Rugby.


I don't know what to tell you. Somestuff people care about, and some stuff they don't...same as everywhere else.



What's really fucked up is that football is the best game ever and none of you guys care about it...

Why?

Stupidity?
Arrogance?
Cockiness?


I mean...ya'll care about Water Polo but not NFL? That's screwed up.

:toast

[whottt]

If America don't know something they think it has no value.

Or when america suck at something they think it's good to say - the discipline is minor, nobody watching it etc.


You think it's only America that does that?



You call it arrogance? Cockiness?

Ambivalence...it's just the way it is. Some stuff people care about and other stuff we don't. Obviously we like basketball, but the WC's just never someting that interested us...Olympics yes, WC no.

It's never been heavily promoted here...not even when we host it.

[monosylab1k]

on a side note, anybody find it funny that Jason Kidd still hasn't even ATTEMPTED a single shot in Olympic play?

[TacoCabanaFajitas]

If America don't know something they think it has no value.

Or when america suck at something they think it's good to say - the discipline is minor, nobody watching it etc.

You call it arrogance? Cockiness?

You're such a dumbass, try reading what he said. The WC's are almost like exhibition games in the eyes of the U.S, the players and the public put no stock into them because the only international basketball that matters in this country is the Olympics. It's like you're arguing for the sake of just talking shit and trying to be funny.

[whottt]

on a side note, anybody find it funny that Jason Kidd still hasn't even ATTEMPTED a single shot in Olympic play?


He knows he sucks...but his 3 shooting is going to come in handy....he is a good 3 shooter.

[polandprzem]

We don't give a shit about Water Polo either...


Or Rugby...and we're the defending champs in Olympic Rugby.


I don't know what to tell you. Somestuff people care about, and some stuff they don't...same as everywhere else.



What's really fucked up is that football is the best game ever and none of you guys care about it...

Why?

Stupidity?
Arrogance?
Cockiness?


I mean...ya'll care about Water Polo but not NFL? That's screwed up.

It's not about care or giving shit about a discipline.

It's about (in short) - we lost? fuck that - nobody cares. It doesn't matter.

Well it does.

If there was no Phelps in the Olympics you would not be so high at swimming.

About Poland and the Olympics
- we had great champs in the past. And fuck I'm proud of them.
Not many people in Poland getting a chance to develop their talent. And even when they have it's not being done in the right way. Mostly because of money not being is sports in Poland.





So what Americans don't know about World Championships - trhey are still there.
Most people do not give a fuck about NBA. You ask treens right now - the name Jordan is not 100% known.

[stretch]

on a side note, anybody find it funny that Jason Kidd still hasn't even ATTEMPTED a single shot in Olympic play?

he doesnt need to when he has the 3 best scorers in the world on his team.

[stretch]

It's not about care or giving shit about a discipline.

It's about (in short) - we lost? fuck that - nobody cares. It doesn't matter.

Well it does.

If there was no Phelps in the Olympics you would not be so high at swimming.

About Poland and the Olympics
- we had great champs in the past. And fuck I'm proud of them.
Not many people in Poland getting a chance to develop their talent. And even when they have it's not being done in the right way. Mostly because of money not being is sports in Poland.





So what Americans don't know about World Championships - trhey are still there.
Most people do not give a fuck about NBA. You ask treens right now - the name Jordan is not 100% known.

stupidest thing ive ever seen. more people know Jordan than... well anyone who has EVER come from Poland, period. you think people dont give a fuck about the NBA? hell more people care about the NBA than they do about the entire country of Poland.

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

It's not about care or giving shit about a discipline.

It's about (in short) - we lost? fuck that - nobody cares. It doesn't matter.

Well it does.

If there was no Phelps in the Olympics you would not be so high at swimming.

About Poland and the Olympics
- we had great champs in the past. And fuck I'm proud of them.
Not many people in Poland getting a chance to develop their talent. And even when they have it's not being done in the right way. Mostly because of money not being is sports in Poland.





So what Americans don't know about World Championships - trhey are still there.
Most people do not give a fuck about NBA. You ask treens right now - the name Jordan is not 100% known.

lol, all defensive and whatnot

[TacoCabanaFajitas]

Most people do not give a fuck about NBA. You ask treens right now - the name Jordan is not 100% known.

Yeah thats probably true...the names they do know 100% are Kobe, Lebron...

[stretch]

lol, all defensive and whatnot

seriously, this guy seems almost as butthurt as KBP. thats pretty damn bad. someone must be ramming a fucking rugby ball up his ass.

[whottt]

It's not about care or giving shit about a discipline.

It's about (in short) - we lost? fuck that - nobody cares. It doesn't matter.


In the FIBA WC, no one cares even if we win.


It matters more if we lose in the Olympics but otherwise...





Well it does.

If there was no Phelps in the Olympics you would not be so high at swimming.

True...


Just like we don't give a shit about the Tour De France anymore...


Why is that a crime?


And you think it's only America that is that way?


How many Argies you think cared about basketball prior to 2002? Now look at them.

What about France before Tony Parker?


Same way everywhere.






About Poland and the Olympics
- we had great champs in the past. And fuck I'm proud of them.
Not many people in Poland getting a chance to develop their talent. And even when they have it's not being done in the right way. Mostly because of money not being is sports in Poland.





So what Americans don't know about World Championships - trhey are still there.
Most people do not give a fuck about NBA. You ask treens right now - the name Jordan is not 100% known.


Doesn't matter if they are there or not...you can't judge Team USA in the Olympics by it's performance in the WC. That's the point...

[polandprzem]

Doesn't matter if they are there or not...you can't judge Team USA in the Olympics by it's performance in the WC. That's the point...

This is the same country the same discipline.
2nd most important basketball turnament.


btw. I'm from Poland - you care about my opinion? wtf?
I'm nobody.

[rj215]

Boozer is horrible.

+1 and Howard looks like he borrowed Nazr Mohammad's hands. He looks lost on defense and at one point in the game guys on the bench like Prince and D. Williams had to yell out defensive rotations to him.

Bosh who I thought looked weak and unimpressive in the Vegas pre-Olympics was great. He made the all the proper defensive rotations and let us play the style we wanted to on both ends of the floor.

I'll always wonder what this team would've been like if Tim and KG were on the squad instead of Boozer and Howard. Would any team get within 30?

[stretch]

I'll always wonder what this team would've been like if Tim and KG were on the squad instead of Boozer and Howard. Would any team get within 30?

No cuz Timmy would foul out in 5 minutes of play and KG would choke.

[stretch]

btw. I'm from Poland - you care about my opinion? wtf?
I'm nobody.

the way you insult americans so much, why do you care about our opinions?

kindly shut yourself the fuck up.

[whottt]

This is the same country the same discipline.
2nd most important basketball turnament.


btw. I'm from Poland - you care about my opinion? wtf?
I'm nobody.

Whatever...at least we host the WC...hell we even host the Wold Cup.


When was the last time you guys hosted the World Series or the Superbowl?

When was the last time you guys even offered to host it?


What arrogance.

[TacoCabanaFajitas]

This is the same country the same discipline.
2nd most important basketball turnament.


btw. I'm from Poland - you care about my opinion? wtf?
I'm nobody.

2nd most important according to who? People in Poland? ESPN? You? Sorry WC's just aren't important in this country, just the same way soccer in the olympics is not as big as the World Cup

[polandprzem]

About basket.


Americans looks realy good so far. The best so far.

The defense is realy outstanding. They are pushing the play way beyond 3 pt line where most "FIBA teams" feels realy comfortable. Now they are out of their comfort zone and out of the normal team playmaking and spreading the floor. Also the fastbreaks are much better. Good for them to take Kidd with Paul Wade and Deron. Not much stupid breaks I saw so far. It's better organized.

And still Americans are the most athletic squad. In Barcelona it was why the adventage was so huge. "Europe" cought up at that regard butr still americans with their roids are fantastic.

Umm we gonna see what will happend but right now. I see americans and Spain as the best teams. Still it's a turnament and every game must be great to win the gold.

[polandprzem]

2nd most important according to who? People in Poland? ESPN? You? Sorry WC's just aren't important in this country, just the same way soccer in the olympics is not as big as the World Cup

Stop crying already

[polandprzem]

Whatever...at least we host the WC...hell we even host the Wold Cup.


When was the last time you guys hosted the World Series or the Superbowl?

When was the last time you guys even offered to host it?


What arrogance.

You talking about inner pro sports not the global sport. :rolleyes

[polandprzem]

Whatever...at least we host the WC...hell we even host the Wold Cup.


When was the last time you guys hosted the World Series or the Superbowl?

When was the last time you guys even offered to host it?


What arrogance.

We are not able to host it.

[whottt]

About basket.

Notice how he isn't interested in football or baseball?






Americans looks realy good so far. The best so far.

The defense is realy outstanding. They are pushing the play way beyond 3 pt line where most "FIBA teams" feels realy comfortable. Now they are out of their comfort zone and out of the normal team playmaking and spreading the floor. Also the fastbreaks are much better. Good for them to take Kidd with Paul Wade and Deron. Not much stupid breaks I saw so far. It's better organized.

And still Americans are the most athletic squad. In Barcelona it was why the adventage was so huge. "Europe" cought up at that regard butr still americans with their roids are fantastic.

Umm we gonna see what will happend but right now. I see americans and Spain as the best teams. Still it's a turnament and every game must be great to win the gold.

Yeah I hate to break it to you...but we didn't get caught near as much as you guys think we did.

The 04 team was a horribly constructed team and a lot of people thought they would lose.

It could not shoot, and it could not pass...if you cannot shoot and you cannot pass, you cannot beat any team that can. Since most International Teams can do those two things very well, if nothing else...wasn't hard to see why we lost.

The 04 team lost to Puerto Rico......


That's like the Polish National Team losing to the Warsaw city team...


It's exactly like that.

[whottt]

You talking about inner pro sports not the global sport. :rolleyes



But why isn't it a global sport?

Because no one else cares.

[whottt]

We are not able to host it.

How do you know? Have you tried?


You might be surprised at what the NFL might be willing to do to get the game going global.

[polandprzem]

But why isn't it a global sport?

You can't promote it?
You are not good in promoting it?



Notice how he isn't interested in football or baseball?
It doesn't mean that those sports are meaningless. They mean a lot for many people.
You act like WORLD CHAMPIONSHIPS doesn't mean shit.
They do! Fuck!

And I do not give much of a damn about European basket or polish basket.
Every sport on a high level caughting my attention. You would not belive how many sports I can be excited at.





:D


Have you seen Barcelona? About being better athleticly.
I mean come on.

And yes you are cought up.

It's still not that close, but Europe definately made more steps then NBA (americans).
and that's the truth

I do agree that taking Marburys was a mistake. Yo could not buy a bucket and you were ballhogging and the D was not that great. Right now with that aggresive D and with killing screenrolls the other teams must to be very well organized.


whottt the fuck? I can't watch Argies vs Croatia cause I'm posting....

[polandprzem]

How do you know? Have you tried?


You might be surprised at what the NFL might be willing to do to get the game going global.

We were not able to organize soccer european championships.
We not be hosting it with Ukraine in 2012 and I don't know if we will be able to do it. Built the stadiums, the roads and all infrastracture (I fucked that word that;'s for sure).

Come visit Poland.
It's nice country - you will be surprised about our hospitality.

[whottt]

You can't promote it?
You are not good in promoting it?

Yeah? And maybe FIBA, and FIFA for that matter, are not good at promoting anything in the states...

Maybe it's that whole, "you should love this and you're arrogant and stupid because you don't", approach, that brings out our inner ugly American.

We're funny that way.



It doesn't mean that those sports are meaningless. They mean a lot for many people.

And so does FIBA WC...



You act like WORLD CHAMPIONSHIPS doesn't mean shit.
They do! Fuck!

I don't know what to tell you...it's just not as prestigous to us as the Olympics. And the emphasis on winning it isn't there.

IF it makes you feel any better, after we lose the Olympic we generally care about it more...but basically it's practice for our Olympic Team.

[whottt]

BTW Poland...


Baseball is a globally played sport, it's played on every continent in the world pretty much except Europe...it's just Europe that doesn't give a shit about it...why is that do you suppose?

Arrogance?

[whottt]

We were not able to organize soccer european championships.
We not be hosting it with Ukraine in 2012 and I don't know if we will be able to do it. Built the stadiums, the roads and all infrastracture (I fucked that word that;'s for sure).

Come visit Poland.
It's nice country - you will be surprised about our hospitality.


I like Poland...I appreciate them standing up to Russia and I think they should be given an easier time getting Visas to the US..but the bottom line is that no matter how nice and hospitable you will act...

You basically think Americans are a bunch of spoiled arrogant aholes...like pretty much every other country in the world thinks of us. Including a great many people that have never stepped foot on our soil.


It's not a secret...

[urunobili]

You basically think Americans are a bunch of spoiled arrogant aholes...like pretty much every other country in the world thinks of us. Including a great many people that have never stepped foot on our soil.


It's not a secret...

I struggle with this a lot.. because of Bush i have seen people from many countries"american bash" and i always bat for you guys and ask them: "have you been there" do you know their people?" it has to be tough to be generalized with whomever rules your country...

i know America i go there a lot... and u guys are just like everybody else.. people trying to make a decent living with good and bad things... u find assholes and gr8 people everywhere.. it's unfair for y'all to be generalized

[TDMVPDPOY]

spanu exposed

[polandprzem]

BTW Poland...


Baseball is a globally played sport, it's played on every continent in the world pretty much except Europe...it's just Europe that doesn't give a shit about it...why is that do you suppose?

Arrogance?

It;s not that.

I was just asking IS THAT AN ARROGANCE?


It;s not about what is popular what isnot in contry like this or country like that.

It's about you. When you lose you say it's nothing. No matter the sport.
Cycling died with Armstrong going retire. So? Now cycling is minor sport just like that? for you it's like that.

We have great speedway in Poland but not much money for it and not much fans are intresed in it.
That's not the point in here.

Or it is whottt?

What?

[polandprzem]

I like Poland...I appreciate them standing up to Russia and I think they should be given an easier time getting Visas to the US..but the bottom line is that no matter how nice and hospitable you will act...

You basically think Americans are a bunch of spoiled arrogant aholes...like pretty much every other country in the world thinks of us. Including a great many people that have never stepped foot on our soil.


It's not a secret...

Because it's like that.

That's true

[whottt]

I struggle with this a lot.. because of Bush i have seen people from many countries"american bash" and i always bat for you guys and ask them: "have you been there" do you know their people?" it has to be tough to be generalized with whomever rules your country...

i know America i go there a lot... and u guys are just like everybody else.. people trying to make a decent living with good and bad things... u find assholes and gr8 people everywhere.. it's unfair for y'all to be generalized

Thanks but, no one roots for Goliath....

[DaDakota]

spanu exposed


He played ok...sure he struggled at the 3pt line, but he was the only one attacking the basket with any regularity.

http://www.fiba.com/pages/eng/fe/08/olym/men/stat/fe_stat_playLead.asp?competitioncode=&currentpagetodisplay=&fixeddate=&langlc=en&season=&roundID=4004&StatisticsPosition=ALL&StatisticsSection=PPG&StatisticsRoundID=ALL

He is still shooting 64% and is the 5th leading scorer at the tournament.

IMHO, they should have put the ball in his hands more, as the rest of the team was turning it over right and left.

Good win for the USA though...

U S A

U S A

DD

[whottt]

It;s not that.

I was just asking IS THAT AN ARROGANCE?


It;s not about what is popular what isnot in contry like this or country like that.

It's about you. When you lose you say it's nothing. No matter the sport.
Cycling died with Armstrong going retire. So? Now cycling is minor sport just like that? for you it's like that.

We have great speedway in Poland but not much money for it and not much fans are intresed in it.
That's not the point in here.

Or it is whottt?

What?


It's called bandwaggoning...and yes we do it.


If we ever get a Soccer Team that doesn't suck we will become Soccer Fans and enjoying sticking it to the rest of the world, and then when we go back to sucking at Soccer it won't be as important.


You know what? If we sucked at the Olympics, they probably wouldn't be as popular as they are here either...


Bangwaggoners and sports go hand in hand.


I guarantee you if Poland gets a great basketball team, basketball will become a thousand times more popular there than it is now.

[whottt]

I don't know even know if bandwaggoning is accurate...

For instance, we kick ass at track and field and swimming...and you know what? No one really gives a shit about swimming or track and field here.

Unless some guy is about to do something no one has ever done before.


IF you really want to know the truth about it...the NBA and basketball aren't that popular here, nowhere near as popular as the NFL is.

So if you really want to get all the way down to it...

The only sport we truly live and breathe as a nation...is football, college football and the NFL. Everything else is just secondary...

[polandprzem]

I guarantee you if Poland gets a great basketball team, basketball will become a thousand times more popular there than it is now.

Maybe more then thousand.

It was the second sport in Poland some time ago and I thought that my generation will be realy good. We were 7th in european championship in 1997 I believe.
We will host 2009 EC. All good. But we are harsh for our sportsmen.
We won silver in voleyball and silver in handball but still we were not happy about it. Believe it? It was more then we would expected and still not good for polish nation.

F1 - Not many fans in poland. But now Kubica is one of the best in that sport. You at once have 40 milions (all polish nation) F1 fans.


For now we do not have no medal for poland. We had a chance in Judo for bronze but ... yeah.
Jedrzejczak in swimming - she was the best few years ago. She now failed to even get one medal :pctoss


Ps. Visas - yup I would likle to see my father after those 17 years I haven't seen him.

[whottt]

Maybe more then thousand.

It was the second sport in Poland some time ago and I thought that my generation will be realy good. We were 7th in european championship in 1997 I believe.
We will host 2009 EC. All good. But we are harsh for our sportsmen.
We won silver in voleyball and silver in handball but still we were not happy about it. Believe it? It was more then we would expected and still not good for polish nation.

F1 - Not many fans in poland. But now Kubica is one of the best in that sport. You at once have 40 milions (all polish nation) F1 fans.


For now we do not have no medal for poland. We had a chance in Judo for bronze but ... yeah.
Jedrzejczak in swimming - she was the best few years ago. She now failed to even get one medal :pctoss

Lots of polish americans play football in America...you guys should take it up, I have a feeling ya'll would be good at it.



Ps. Visas - yup I would likle to see my father after those 17 years I haven't seen him.


That sucks dude...I don't know what the deal is.

In America we know three things about Poland:

You guys stood up to the Soviet Union.
Your jokes are funny.
You helped us in Iraq...


I really don't understand the thing with the Visas either...especially with the current administration being one that should be favorable to Poland.

[polandprzem]

In America we know three things about Poland:

You guys stood up to the Soviet Union.
Your jokes are funny.
You helped us in Iraq...

Well WWII - you don't know much about it?

Good song.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N534o7gETE0&feature=related

[MannyIsGod]

Poland where in the country is your father?

[Bruno]

Robert Korzeniowski was a huge stud.

[mavs>spurs2]

You guys leave polandprzem alone, if for no other reason than the fact polish girls have big boobs :lol

[Mr. Body]

Polish girls are hot. Trust me. Go to Krakow.

[polandprzem]

Poland where in the country is your father?

No way I'm gonna tell ya :)


Robert Korzeniowski was a huge stud.

Yup he was as much professional as possible :tu

He was unreachable.

In Barcelona he was walking to stadium for a silver medal the refs diqualified him. He then worked out new way of walking for him and keeped training.
He did it by himself acually. What to eat during race, when , how much minerals do he need at what kilometer of walk. He was mixing it up and had his own man passing it to him during race. Also a great tactician and great human.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Korzeniowski

[MannyIsGod]

The only reason I ask Poland is because I have a good friend here in San Antonio who is from Poland and he is here with his father and he has a lot of family back in Poland.

[urunobili]

Thanks but, no one roots for Goliath....

you stopped being Goliatt a WHILE ago... China is da shit now...

[polandprzem]

The only reason I ask Poland is because I have a good friend here in San Antonio who is from Poland and he is here with his father and he has a lot of family back in Poland.

East Coast

[fotan2]

well . i think my country will not hold on to the top place any longer . once the track and field starts , USA will most likely bounce back .

[Extra Stout]

It's about you. When you lose you say it's nothing. No matter the sport.
Cycling died with Armstrong going retire. So? Now cycling is minor sport just
I think you do not understand the American mindset on this.

Americans were never interested in cycling. They were interested in Lance Armstrong. If some other American wins it, still nobody will care.

The NBA was more popular 12 years ago in America than it is now. That is because Americans were more interested in Michael Jordan than they were basketball.

Golf is not super-popular in the U.S. because more people suddenly appreciate golf as a sport. Americans are interested in Tiger Woods.

Transcendant greatness and charisma in a single athlete capture the American imagination. Often the great American athlete gets more attention than the great international one, but that it not surprising; many countries are that way.

Some events have more prestige than others within a given sport. Olympic basketball is more prestigious than the WC.

In golf, the PGA Championship and the Masters are both major championships set in the U.S., but the Masters is more prestigious. When the British Open is at St. Andrew's, it matters more even than the U.S. Open.

In tennis, Wimbledon is more prestigious to Americans than the U.S. Open is.

In American auto racing, the Indianapolis 500 race used to be more prestigious than the Daytona 500; now it's the other way around.

To say any of this is because of American arrogance is presumptuous, even bigoted. Some events just evoke a greater sense of pageantry and prestige to the American sensibility than others.

[Whisky Dog]

After getting complacent following 2000 the US has put together a complete team for the first time in several years. The biggest difference is the maturity and emergence of the guards and forwards, and the addition of Kobe. 2008 Lebron, Wade, Anthony, Williams, Paul are far and away better than 2004 Lebron and Anthony (who Brown didn't play anyway) and the other ball handlers on that team. This team is just simply too good with the ball and too good defending on the ball for any other teams in the world to compete with as long as they keep their composure and focus.

I found it funny that Collins was talking about the US playing a bit of zone at the end and some people wondering why they don't play more zone. Zone in basketball is just like it is in football - a device to help cover up defensive deficiencies. With the perimeter and team defense the US has this year there is absolutely no reason to go zone. They have the equivalent to 2 absolutely shutdown corners in the NFL - just lock up man and dominate.

[Whisky Dog]

What's up with all of the Polish hostility in this thread? It's just basketball.

[Bartleby]

I think you do not understand the American mindset on this.

Americans were never interested in cycling. They were interested in Lance Armstrong. If some other American wins it, still nobody will care.

Actually, an American (Floyd Landis) did win it the year after Lance got #7, and then he had it taken away after accusations of doping. But the fact that most Americans know nothing about this simply proves your point.

[polandprzem]

What's up with all of the Polish hostility in this thread? It's just basketball.

:lol



btw. nice discussion and well american can't play a great zone - that's diferent kind of helping on D.
Americanos are more uesd to 1-1 "showing"

[sribb43]

Wow, this is the most attention I've seen Poland get in years

[Pumphernickle]

I had some great polish sausage last weekend.

[Leo_ARG]

Hey my grandfather and grandmother are polskies and are still living in argentina.
Good thing they don't speak/read english, this thread would drive them nuts :lol

go poland! :downspin:

[polandprzem]

http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh236/Alaxe87/Polish.jpg

[Brutalis]

We'll win by 20 at least.

Yeah. Another cupcake goes down.

[TeamUSADynasty]

We just beat a team we were supposed to beat!

USA! USA!

Kill Bill Blows Greek Goats!

[jason1301]

WTF?!?!?!?!?!?!?! Fuck Greece and fuck Argentina!!!!

watch your mouth sissy.

[raspsa]

Someone please tell me if my ears are deceiving me. When Kidd made his terrific bounce pass that led to a fastbreak basket, one of the commentators said that it didn't seem to be appropriate or in the Olympic spirit or something to that effect... it was a great play so I'm wondering if I heard it right..