Scola today

[Walton Buys Off Me]

http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/INF/BK/C73/BKM400A15.shtml#BKM400A15

But at least we have Bonner....give RC a raise!

[pad300]

Is Oberto injured!? He played no minutes according to that boxscore. Is argentina just resting him? (If so, why not rest Manu?)

[Leo_ARG]

Both Delfino and Oberto are injured.
None of the injuries appear to be serious.

[urunobili]

Is Oberto injured!? He played no minutes according to that boxscore. Is argentina just resting him? (If so, why not rest Manu?)

he had a bruise. didn't play just to be cautious

[roycrikside]

Is Oberto injured!? He played no minutes according to that boxscore. Is argentina just resting him? (If so, why not rest Manu?)

I don't get why any of their stars played. It was a meaningless game.

[ceperez]

http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/INF/BK/C73/BKM400A15.shtml#BKM400A15

But at least we have Bonner....give RC a raise!

37 points... impressive.

So who listened to Larry Brown to sign Buttler only to trade him and Scola because of cap issues?

If we had Scola, we may have beaten the Lakers.

This Scola incident is going to be even more painful if the Rockets eliminate us in the playoffs. :-(

[Mister Sinister]

37 points... impressive.

So who listened to Larry Brown to sign Buttler only to trade him and Scola because of cap issues?

If we had Scola, we may have beaten the Lakers.

This Scola incident is going to be even more painful if the Rockets eliminate us in the playoffs. :-(
In a row?

[benefactor]

Maybe we can all continue to cry about it and the past will miraculously change itself.

[JBIIRockets]

37 points! Love It!

[Manufan909]

I don't get why their second best player played the whole game when this one didn't matter one bit. At least Manu was allowed to rest. Nice to see he's still shooting a sweet percentage. I really wish that they'd played their worst five 25 minutes each, let everyone else rest. Nice win though.

[DaDakota]

You guys should try to bring V-Span over, that would make the trade a little more even.

DD

[T Park]

Maybe we can all continue to cry about it and the past will miraculously change itself.


:lol

So true.

[Mister Sinister]

Maybe we can all continue to cry about it and the past will miraculously change itself.
Somebody get the Retcon.

[urunobili]

You guys should try to bring V-Span over, that would make the trade a little more even.

DD

:tu

[Rainman]

37 points... impressive.

So who listened to Larry Brown to sign Buttler only to trade him and Scola because of cap issues?

If we had Scola, we may have beaten the Lakers.

This Scola incident is going to be even more painful if the Rockets eliminate us in the playoffs. :-(

I don't know if the Spurs would have beaten the Lakers with Scola but it would have been a closer series. If you watch him play he's like a pitbull he never quits and it's 110% all the time. He's like a hybrid between Manu and Battier but in a PF's body.

[mavs>spurs2]

didn't anthony johnson score 50 in a playoff game? Scola sucks guys..

[T Park]

didn't anthony johnson score 50 in a playoff game? Scola sucks guys..

Jaren Jackson scored over 20 a couple times too.

Dude should've never been let go.

[Ocotillo]

The dead horse keeps getting beaten because some still defend the front office on the deal.

Bottom-line: It was a bad deal. The organization is not doomed to mediocrity for decades because of it but the front office has lost a lot of it's lustre these past few years.

Mahinmi, Hill, and to a lesser extent Gist are critical to showing how much of the front office was Sam Shuler, Sam Presti or R.C. when it came to finding guys like Tony, Manu and Scola.

This front office has not done anything in the draft since Beno unless the above guys pan out. Laugh about Beno all you want and he didn't fit here but he is still in the league as a very late first rounder.

[MoSpur]

I agree that its in the past and we need to move on. However, I hate reading posts in here that defend every move the front office makes and by pointing out that the Spurs have won four championships. I think we all know that the Spurs have won four championships, but the issue here is that the front office made a mistake by trading away Scola for a bag of peanuts.

I can't understand why some of you don't admit to that.

[T Park]

I agree that its in the past and we need to move on. However, I hate reading posts in here that defend every move the front office makes and by pointing out that the Spurs have won four championships. I think we all know that the Spurs have won four championships, but the issue here is that the front office made a mistake by trading away Scola for a bag of peanuts.

I can't understand why some of you don't admit to that.



It was a bad move.

Its also time to move the fuck on.

[Ocotillo]

It was a bad move.

Its also time to move the fuck on.

Good man.

[wisnub]

The dead horse keeps getting beaten because some still defend the front office on the deal.

Bottom-line: It was a bad deal. The organization is not doomed to mediocrity for decades because of it but the front office has lost a lot of it's lustre these past few years.

Mahinmi, Hill, and to a lesser extent Gist are critical to showing how much of the front office was Sam Shuler, Sam Presti or R.C. when it came to finding guys like Tony, Manu and Scola.

This front office has not done anything in the draft since Beno unless the above guys pan out. Laugh about Beno all you want and he didn't fit here but he is still in the league as a very late first rounder.

:danceclub TRUE BLUE

[angelbelow]

wow scola had a nice game..

[mrspurs]

i still dont know what was worse, letting go of scolla or hiring mighty mouse during the season when we already had proven championship back ups in jacque and beno. imo both stupid moves cost us another ring.(last season) so its try try again. maybe with roger putting in solid minutes at the 1 and 2 we get another chance.:wow

[ducks]

37 points in a non nba game wow impressive


oh wait manu is averaging 32 points in this non nba league

[ducks]

i still dont know what was worse, letting go of scolla or hiring mighty mouse during the season when we already had proven championship back ups in jacque and beno. imo both stupid moves cost us another ring.(last season) so its try try again. maybe with roger putting in solid minutes at the 1 and 2 we get another chance.:wow

scola hated the spurs
he could not get along with pop

most quality players do but not all

[kobyz]

we lost a championship this year because we give up Scola, R.C Buford need to be fired on that!

[sribb43]

Scola was hitting mid range jumpers and getting And1's...I watched the game online and knew he scored alot but damn, 37 points, he was ballin' on Kirilenko

[nil.ball]

People, chill. Argentinians beat a listless Russian team who is arguably the worst in the Olympics. What is the fuzz? 37 Pts is great, but it is not in NBA. Even if it is, what is the big deal, it's only one game. :flag:

[ceperez]

People, chill. Argentinians beat a listless Russian team who is arguably the worst in the Olympics. What is the fuzz? 37 Pts is great, but it is not in NBA. Even if it is, what is the big deal, it's only one game. :flag:

Only one game?! Well what about Oberto, have we seen one game, any game, in any league where he's scored more than 30 points? It's such a pathetic disparity in talent!

Maybe Scola isn't NBA all-star talent, but without a smidgen of a doubt, he's better than Oberto and Bonner combined!! Finally, remember this, we signed Bonner and extended Oberto in the SAME YEAR that the Rockets signed Scola. That's how misereable our F.O. has become.

Heck, maybe the brains of that F.O. that drafted Parker and Manu (and even Scola) have long departed for other teams and all we have is a shell of pretenders!

[Cherry]

scola hated the spurs
he could not get along with pop

most quality players do but not all

your ignorance crack me up :lmao

Scola is thankful for what the Spurs FO did for him. Houston is the rigth place for Luis.

[ducks]

is scola favre
everything he does have to get reported?

[ducks]

your ignorance crack me up :lmao

Scola is thankful for what the Spurs FO did for him. Houston is the rigth place for Luis.

your stupidy cracks me up
everyone knows scola and the spurs did not get along

scola now is thankfully they moved him
they have more class then common sence
I would have never traded him
if he did not want to sgn with me fuck him

[Cherry]

everyone knows scola and the spurs did not get along

That's your opinion.


your stupidy cracks me up

scola now is thankfully they moved him
they have more class then common sence
I would have never traded him
if he did not want to sgn with me fuck him

That's very you:

Luis or Manu are playing good and you can ignore all this if you want But no. You end like the stupid one who can't live without hating someone!:lol

Come on, get over it.

[Manu'sMagicalLeftHand]

your stupidy cracks me up
everyone knows scola and the spurs did not get along

scola now is thankfully they moved him
they have more class then common sence
I would have never traded him
if he did not want to sgn with me fuck him


Who the fuck is this guy talkin gibberish?
Can he spit properly and not use Engrish?
Get yo shitty spellin ass back to the 2nd grade
Yo ducks.................tell me how my ass tastes

[smeagol]

ducks is stupid

[baseline bum]

your ignorance crack me up :lmao

Scola is thankful for what the Spurs FO did for him. Houston is the rigth place for Luis.

No way. He'd have been an incredible sixth man here. I'm still pissed... I followed this guy's game for five years, got all excited, and then the team just dropped him to save $3 million off Butler's deal. I'll never forgive RC for that crap. What a joke.

[ceperez]

No way. He'd have been an incredible sixth man here. I'm still pissed... I followed this guy's game for five years, got all excited, and then the team just dropped him to save $3 million off Butler's deal. I'll never forgive RC for that crap. What a joke.

I don't know what's worse, that deal or giving up Camby for nothing.

It's all screwed up, see the only reason we even have Oberto is that we was a placeholder for Scola. Unfortunately, he overachieved in the second season and the F.O. had the stupidity of extending his contract.

Then we compound the problem when we signed Bonner for a 3 year contract last year for the more than the amount that the Rockets are paying Scola. How in the world is a guy like Bonner remotely comparable to Scola?

[mrspurs]

I don't know what's worse, that deal or giving up Camby for nothing.

It's all screwed up, see the only reason we even have Oberto is that we was a placeholder for Scola. Unfortunately, he overachieved in the second season and the F.O. had the stupidity of extending his contract.

Then we compound the problem when we signed Bonner for a 3 year contract last year for the more than the amount that the Rockets are paying Scola. How in the world is a guy like Bonner remotely comparable to Scola?

there is no comparison, scolla is better, plain and simple. :wow

[ducks]

ducks is stupid

prove you
you know nothing about me
I know how to fix computers
that does not make me stupid
that makes me a geek

[smeagol]

prove you
you know nothing about me
I know how to fix computers
that does not make me stupid
that makes me a geek

If you can call cherry stupid without knowing her, I can certainly call you stupid based on your +30,000 posts

[GuerillaBlack]

prove you
you know nothing about me
I know how to fix computers
that does not make me stupid
that makes me a geek


Who the fuck is this guy talkin gibberish?
Can he spit properly and not use Engrish?
Get yo shitty spellin ass back to the 2nd grade
Yo ducks.................tel mme how me asss tate

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

The dead horse keeps getting beaten because some still defend the front office on the deal.

Bottom-line: It was a bad deal. The organization is not doomed to mediocrity for decades because of it but the front office has lost a lot of it's lustre these past few years.

Mahinmi, Hill, and to a lesser extent Gist are critical to showing how much of the front office was Sam Shuler, Sam Presti or R.C. when it came to finding guys like Tony, Manu and Scola.

This front office has not done anything in the draft since Beno unless the above guys pan out. Laugh about Beno all you want and he didn't fit here but he is still in the league as a very late first rounder.

:rolleyes

Some still defend the FO because IT WAS NOT AN FO DECISION. Clearly, it was a lux tax imperative which means the OWNERSHIP made the decision, not the FO. Why is that so hard to understand?

Why the hell do so many of you blame RC for a decision that was made by Holt et al???

[ducks]

If you can call cherry stupid without knowing her, I can certainly call you stupid based on your +30,000 posts

she called me stupid without knowing me first!:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol

[Deimosfobos]

Scola trade still hurts my brain...

[ducks]

Scola trade still hurts my brain...

you have one?

[Deimosfobos]

you have one?

Not anymore, it comited suicide the day the trade was confirmed. :P

[ducks]

Scola Thread!

[Deimosfobos]

Scola Thread!

And you keep bumping the thread!!! :D

[mystargtr34]

Scola is a stud, the Spurs were stupid to give him up, and it probably cost us.

[mytespurs]

why exactly didn't Scola become a Spur or rather, why did the Spurs give up on him?

[sprrs]

At least Manu only played 20 minutes. 40 minutes for Scola? Ouch. Wonder what was up with that?

[roycrikside]

37 points in a non nba game wow impressive


oh wait manu is averaging 32 points in this non nba league

First of all, he's not averaging 32. Once again you're too stupid to do the most basic research on anything. Secondly, it's pretty lame how you hate on every Argentina player now instead of just Manu. I'm guessing if France was in the tournament you would know every Tony Parker statistic.

[kobyz]

you are understand that the Scola trade cost us a championship this year?!?! dont be Buford bitches!

[ceperez]

:rolleyes

Some still defend the FO because IT WAS NOT AN FO DECISION. Clearly, it was a lux tax imperative which means the OWNERSHIP made the decision, not the FO. Why is that so hard to understand?

Why the hell do so many of you blame RC for a decision that was made by Holt et al???

You forget, in the same off-season we signed Bonner for a 3 year contract and extended Vaughns contract.

If we had the inside info like the Rockets, then we would have never signed these two underachievers and would never had a Lux Tax problem.

It was a mistake to have signed Butler, however we compounded that mistake by trying to correct it by not signing Scola. An idiotic move!

Watch the Argentia-Russia game and you'll see how Scola consistently hits the midrange jumper. Just imagine that kind of consistency play beside Tim Duncan! DAMN! SUCH A WASTE!

[Walton Buys Off Me]

You forget, in the same off-season we signed Bonner for a 3 year contract and extended Vaughns contract.

If we had the inside info like the Rockets, then we would have never signed these two underachievers and would never had a Lux Tax problem.

It was a mistake to have signed Butler, however we compounded that mistake by trying to correct it by not signing Scola. An idiotic move!

Watch the Argentia-Russia game and you'll see how Scola consistently hits the midrange jumper. Just imagine that kind of consistency play beside Tim Duncan! DAMN! SUCH A WASTE!

Dude, you must realize that 85% of the people on this board will a. blindly defend every front office move citing the 4 championship rings and b. argue in favour of whatever timvp says.

What's entertaining is when points a and b conflict with each other and you have negative IQ idiots like T Park swaying to and fro with their opinions without even knowing it...priceless.

[Deimosfobos]

At least Manu only played 20 minutes. 40 minutes for Scola? Ouch. Wonder what was up with that?

I think he asked to play a lot, he is young and he can handle the minutes, and he is the kind of player that usually only gets better the more he plays.

[hater]

Scola is the shiznit. dammit!!!

[ceperez]

Dude, you must realize that 85% of the people on this board will a. blindly defend every front office move citing the 4 championship rings and b. argue in favour of whatever timvp says.

What's entertaining is when points a and b conflict with each other and you have negative IQ idiots like T Park swaying to and fro with their opinions without even knowing it...priceless.

The Spurs organization is a the top of its class, however to win championships you've got to have top notch razor edged decision making that runs rings around the other F.O. out there. It's not enough to have average F.O. decision making.

What makes it worse is that the Rockets organization is making a career of embarrassing us. Other teams like the Lakers and Hornets are running rings around us by signing great talent for next to nothing. Meanwhile, we continue to bask is the past glory of signing Michael Finley!

The Spurs drafting have been stellar, but we'll still have to wait if that is still true with the likes of Mahinmi and Hill.

BTW... I think Pop should retire... he's tired and doesn't want to make the effort to develop players. I'll take Buldenhozer or Thibodeau as a replacement.

[hater]

What makes it worse is that the Rockets organization is making a career of embarrassing us.

yes all those championships the rockets have on us the last few years is really embarrasing!

[We born to be bad]

Only one game?! Well what about Oberto, have we seen one game, any game, in any league where he's scored more than 30 points? It's such a pathetic disparity in talent! ...

ignorant fool...Oberto 28 points Final World Champion 2.002. with his ACB team Pamesa in 2005, too.

[Anti.Hero]

The same people who still bash Scola will be the ones in a few months saying "It's only December, It's only February."

And our offense will still be shit.

[kuato]

The same people who still bash Scola will be the ones in a few months saying "It's only December, It's only February."

And our offense will still be shit. ----> I saw a video on youtube with Popovich saying that Manu have turned a great player once he landed on the NBA, thats so stupid, Manu was a great player before NBA, Scola is too, spurs managers have a really big problem judgin international talent, everybody in the world can see that Scola is a good player and here on Spurstalk i saw people asking if Scola can play basketball at all, it is just basketball like Manu said. Sorry for my bad english.
Scolaaaaa thread !!!!! :downspin:

[bonnington]

I don't get why any of their stars played. It was a meaningless game.

No Olympic game is meaningless. It's the Olympics, it's about honor also so you try to win everything.


I don't get why their second best player played the whole game when this one didn't matter one bit. At least Manu was allowed to rest. Nice to see he's still shooting a sweet percentage. I really wish that they'd played their worst five 25 minutes each, let everyone else rest. Nice win though.

What I say above plus, this team needs more playing time to get there, they are improving every game.


37 points in a non nba game wow impressive


oh wait manu is averaging 32 points in this non nba league

So you also speak bs here too?

manu averages 19,6 not 32 points, get your facts straight, "geek".

[ArgSpursFan.]

why exactly didn't Scola become a Spur or rather, why did the Spurs give up on him?

As far as I know,and it's probably what happened,The Spurs FO and Pop never thought Scola's game was gonna translate well to the NBA as it did,they probably thought that He could become a second coming Oberto at the most. They trully understimated him,like they usually do with Euros or Latinos(not NBA proven),It happened to Manu too,he was 4 years in Europe waiting on the Spurs to bring him onboard,and the spurs probably could've won at least 1 more title from 99 to 03,or at least they could've have a better chance to win it.but they didn't.
Shit happens...I guess.

[ceperez]

ignorant fool...Oberto 28 points Final World Champion 2.002. with his ACB team Pamesa in 2005, too.


Dude... since when is 30 points less than 28 points?

Keep searching!

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

Manu average 20 points in NBA last year and 20 points in Olympics.

[K-State Spur]

It should be noted that NO other NBA teams projected him to be this good. Otherwise, the Spurs would have seen a better offer than cap space and a 2nd rounder. Even the Rockets could have had him a year earlier at a better price.

It's not an excuse, but the Spurs certainly weren't alone.

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

It should be noted that NO other NBA teams projected him to be this good. Otherwise, the Spurs would have seen a better offer than cap space and a 2nd rounder. Even the Rockets could have had him a year earlier at a better price.

It's not an excuse, but the Spurs certainly weren't alone.

Scola was always consider second best player on Argentina team. Always he was consider better than Nocioni. So what you say is not true.

[ChumpDumper]

Scola was always consider second best player on Argentina team. Always he was consider better than Nocioni. So what you say is not true.The Spurs were never offered anything better, so it is true.

[K-State Spur]

Scola was always consider second best player on Argentina team. Always he was consider better than Nocioni. So what you say is not true.

The proof is in the pudding.

If any other NBA team thought he was going to be this effective, they would have topped the Rockets lowball offer. Hell, if the Rockets knew he was going to be this effective, they would have offered a 1st rounder a year earlier and added him then.

I'm not saying that Scola isn't any good now, but to deny that there were major doubts around the NBA about his game before he joined the league is revisionist history.

[Tully365]

The problem with armchair wannabe general managers is they can say or do anything they want. That's why this forum has a million trade suggestions that have Bonner and Vaughn leaving while a talented starter who averages 15 ppg and plays tenacious D magically appears on the new imaginary roster. The only gripe most people here can level against the FO is that they fall short of utopian perfection. That's 100% true. They didn't get Maggette (nobody offering the MLE did), they didn't get JR Smith (Denver gave away Camby to clear cap room so they could match any offer), etc.
Being a GM in the real world involves serious risk analysis-- i.e., gambling-- and no one wins every gamble. The Lakers traded Caron Butler for Kwame Brown-- good move, in retrospect? No way, but then they were smart enough to recover by getting Pau with Kwame's expiring contract. Kobe and many Laker fans came out and criticized their FO for not getting Kidd. Now, Kidd is declining as fast as Bynum is developing, and their FO looks a lot smarter than their fans. Before last year, Boston fans routinely said Ainge was a moron, and Pierce was a whiny, spoiled star who wasn't a winner, etc., etc. Now the fans of both teams will enthusiastically argue that their FOs are the best in the league. You won't see the fans of any other team that has won multiple recent titles and played in the conference finals last year complain about their FOs.... why? because, aside from the Spurs, no other team matching that description even exists.

[ducks]

First of all, he's not averaging 32. Once again you're too stupid to do the most basic research on anything. Secondly, it's pretty lame how you hate on every Argentina player now instead of just Manu. I'm guessing if France was in the tournament you would know every Tony Parker statistic.
some poster posted that not me
I do not have time to research every stat some poster post here

[ducks]

I think he asked to play a lot, he is young and he can handle the minutes, and he is the kind of player that usually only gets better the more he plays.

dude he is past his prime
he will not get better he is what he is

[ArgSpursFan.]

The proof is in the pudding.

If any other NBA team thought he was going to be this effective, they would have topped the Rockets lowball offer. Hell, if the Rockets knew he was going to be this effective, they would have offered a 1st rounder a year earlier and added him then.

I'm not saying that Scola isn't any good now, but to deny that there were major doubts around the NBA about his game before he joined the league is revisionist history.

it doesn't work like that dude.
1-The spurs were the ones following him for years,and keeping up with his stats and overall game. The spurs didn't have to wait until a team would offer a 1st round pick and money for a guy who wasn't followed and scouted in the past,like the spurs did with scola,to realize how good he was.
2-Now what the Rockets did was steal Luis from the Spurs,cose their GM knew that even eating Butler's contract,Scola was worthy of that.
See now?It was a FO fuckup all the way,plain and simple.

[ducks]

First of all, he's not averaging 32. Once again you're too stupid to do the most basic research on anything. Secondly, it's pretty lame how you hate on every Argentina player now instead of just Manu. I'm guessing if France was in the tournament you would know every Tony Parker statistic.

why should I like scola when he thinks he is to good to hear pop and rc words of wisdom. work on your rebounding and throwing a 2 year old fit


I do like any player like that no matter where they are from

[kuato]

why should I like scola when he thinks he is to good to hear pop and rc words of wisdom. work on your rebounding and throwing a 2 year old fit


I do like any player like that no matter where they are from ----> What the fuck ? Scola thinks he is too good to hear pop ? , please stop licking toxic frogs.

[urunobili]

----> What the fuck ? Scola thinks he is too good to hear pop ? , please stop licking toxic frogs.

dude... ducks sucks

[K-State Spur]

it doesn't work like that dude.
1-The spurs were the ones following him for years,and keeping up with his stats and overall game. The spurs didn't have to wait until a team would offer a 1st round pick and money for a guy who wasn't followed and scouted in the past,like the spurs did with scola,to realize how good he was.
2-Now what the Rockets did was steal Luis from the Spurs,cose their GM knew that even eating Butler's contract,Scola was worthy of that.
See now?It was a FO fuckup all the way,plain and simple.

NBA teams are only scouting their own property?

It was known for at least a year before that Scola could be had for the right price. Yet, no team in the league felt he was worth a first round pick.

It was a screw-up no doubts. And the Spurs own the greatest fault in it because he was their property.

But no other team in the league saw him being this effective - and it DOES work like that.

[wildbill2u]

As I recall the sticking point with the Spurs was the money. And the fact that they got rid of Butler was also about money.

There is nothing particularly sinister in a team wanting to mangage their P&L in their favor.

And who knows, if they had held Scola off for another year to the point where his contract was available without penalty, he might have resigned with Tau for spite. Or the big money contracts which the Euros now appear to have in their arsenal might have come into play.

What's done is done. The real problem is the misjudgment and mismanagemetn of the Bonner contract. If they thought he was worth the 3 year contract and a better option than Scola, they should have been developing him instead of letting him rot on the bench.

[ArgSpursFan.]

NBA teams are only scouting their own property?

It was known for at least a year before that Scola could be had for the right price. Yet, no team in the league felt he was worth a first round pick.

It was a screw-up no doubts. And the Spurs own the greatest fault in it because he was their property.

But no other team in the league saw him being this effective - and it DOES work like that.

they did.
Cleveland did
Chicago did
and of course Houston did.

Now,of course no one wanted Butler's big ass in their salary cap space.
Houston did it coze they were desperate for a PF,and $3M p/yr +butler's contract is way cheaper tham another solid NBA PF.

I bet if the Spurs just wanted to trade Scola's rights for a 1st rounder and some cash,not one but many teams would've gone for it.

[urunobili]

ATTENTION tonight 8EST on ESPN+ Luis Scola on "ESPN Studio" a one hour special!!!!

[K-State Spur]

they did.
Cleveland did
Chicago did
and of course Houston did.


Clearly Chicago and Cleveland did not, because a player this effective is clearly worth a first round pick. Neither was willing to give that up.

Even Houston only made the trade after a year when the price had hit bargain basement level.

[ducks]

Clearly Chicago and Cleveland did not, because a player this effective is clearly worth a first round pick. Neither was willing to give that up.

Even Houston only made the trade after a year when the price had hit bargain basement level.

after he proved what he could do in the nba
you might say that
but gms did not think he was worth a first roudn pick

[Cherry]

she called me stupid without knowing me first!:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol

I called you stupid for a reason :rolleyes

Think about this:
How can i know you if your +30,000 posts are based on trash talk?
So, i guess you are a troll and nothing else.

As Kori says: don't come crying later if you get your feelings hurt. Thanks.

[Manufan909]

Cherry has claws.:toast

[ducks]

Cherry has claws.:toast

is she a bear:p:

[K-State Spur]

after he proved what he could do in the nba
you might say that
but gms did not think he was worth a first roudn pick

My entire point.

No reasonable person can deny that Scola can play in this league.

However, it would be revisionist to ignore that the entire league had doubts about him before he came over and proved it.