What's Up With Luis Scola?

[timvp]

He started off the season over in Europe like he was going to be named MVP of the world. Lately, his production has fallen off pretty drastically. Is he injured? Were they playing easy teams in the beginning of the year?

He was averaging over 20 at one time and now he's at 16.1 points and 7.6 rebounds on 52% from the field. Still nice numbers but not quite as good as they used to be.

Thanks for the help.

[2pac]

His defense dropped off, and Pop called his coach and had him benched. Then he threw the ball into the stands and pulled his jersey over his head and that was the last straw.

[MaNuMaNiAc]

His defense dropped off, and Pop called his coach and had him benched. Then he threw the ball into the stands and pulled his jersey over his head and that was the last straw.
:lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao

[SequSpur]

Sounds like Beno. Go from NBA Rookie of the month, to the USBL in one week.

[Dre_7]

Well, Beno got hurt, so its not like he just started to suck. I dont think his play dropped off that bad.

[timvp]

Bump.

Scola's numbers are a little up since I posted this. He also won some MVP award recently if my espanol is right.

Any insight? Anyone watch him play as of late?

[T Park]

you put up 20 and 10 in any league, your a freakin great player.


Very excited for him to come over!

[timvp]

Yeah, problem is he isn't averaging 20 and 10.

[T Park]

17 and 8

close enough.

[Kori Ellis]

There are 100's of guys averaging 17 and 8 in various leagues. I was hoping Scola improved on his numbers this season.

[maxpower]

Sounds like Beno. Go from NBA Rookie of the month, to the USBL in one week.
Unfortunately they can't all be as consistent as you.
Sheyittt post after sheyittt post with nary a sign of letting off. Kudos.

[T Park]

How many of them guys though play in the olympics and play just as well.


Scola will be fine.

[Kori Ellis]

I hope so. I'm still not sold on his defense or his game translating well to the NBA. Hopefully so.

[T Park]

HA, if he has a problem with defense, that will quickly be fixed in SA, garunteed.

Any guy like Scola with a good jumper and rebounds decently can play in the NBA.

[ChumpDumper]

Well, if he played 35mpg like Duncan he'd average more like 20 and 9. His production seems pretty good for 29mpg. I remember Manu's European stats not being all that eye-popping either.

[exstatic]

Eight rebounds is a galactic improvement for him. I really thought we had the next Mo Taylor on our hands when I saw his size, and then his rebounding*cough numbers at the time he was drafted.

[Solid D]

TAU coach brings him off the bench for energy and scoring. He's really good and he'll definitely hit the floor because the ball is his.

I saw him in the CSKA game earlier, before the FINAL 16 started. They are 1-0 so far in Euroleague Final 16. He gets into major foul trouble sometimes. If you look at his stats, it should reflect that.

[danyel]

There are 100's of guys averaging 17 and 8 in various leagues. I was hoping Scola improved on his numbers this season.

How many do that in one of the top teams in the top european country league?

He is 15 and 7 for Euroleague regular season on 52% fg.

In spanish ACB league he ranks 5th in total ranking, 12th in ppg, 7th rpg, 13th bpg, 4th in recovered balls, 13th in 2pt fg%, quite an all around game.

[Kori Ellis]

How many do that in one of the top teams in the top european country league?

Not many. I'm not questioning that. I'm questioning why his numbers didn't improve much/if at all this season.

[SequSpur]

Can we trade Rasho for him?

[DuncanMVP]

can someone post a pic and stats of this Luis Scola guy?

[ALVAREZ6]

can someone post a pic and stats of this Luis Scola guy?
Ummm, Did you watch the Olympics?

[DuncanMVP]

yeah but I dont remember what he looked like man

[Kori Ellis]

http://espndeportes.espn.go.com/2003/photos2004/0827/a_scola_luis_vt.jpg

[DuncanMVP]

http://espndeportes.espn.go.com/2003/photos2004/0827/a_scola_luis_vt.jpg


thanks, whats his stats ie: height/weight pts, rbs

[ALVAREZ6]

http://i.cnn.net/si/2004/olympics/2004/basketball/08/28/bc.oly.italy.argentina.ap/tx_scola.jpg

This dunk was at the buzzer vs. USA this summer...


NOTICE: notice he is wearing Tim Duncan's shoes from last season...

[ChumpDumper]

Let's find more crazy-eyed Scola pics.
http://www.radiocadena3.com.ar/images/noticias_cadena3/Argentina83.jpg

[RobinsontoDuncan]

lmao, he looks retarded

[DuncanMVP]

whats his stats ie: height/weight pts, rbs

[Kori Ellis]

6-9 230

His stats are around 15 and 8.

[ChumpDumper]

http://www.baskonia.com/web/fotos_noticias/mvp1.jpg

[ChumpDumper]

http://www.clarin.com/diario/2004/08/20/thumb/t051dh00.jpg

[ChumpDumper]

http://www.ba.no/multimedia/archive/00451/ol3_451938g.jpg

[timvp]

http://www.nba.com/media/espanol/scola_grito_final.jpg
"ChumpDumper say I save the daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay."

[DuncanMVP]

6-9 230

His stats are around 15 and 8.

thanks again

[ChumpDumper]

http://www.cyberpresse.ca/slideshow/reseau/0408/images/2a2f95f.jpg
All this mugging for half the price?

[ChumpDumper]

[IMG]
"ChumpDumper say I save the daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay."Llllliiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiinnnnnnnnnnnnn nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnkkkkkkkkkkkkkk???????????

[timvp]

http://www.ba.no/multimedia/archive/00451/ol3_451938g.jpg

His stats aren't so impressive when you consider he's playing against an herb.

http://www.openkitchen.net/cook/basil/basil.jpg

[davi78239]

Man, I hope he can get out of his so called "slump" and we sign him this summer.

[ChumpDumper]

That was Manu's cover. Mebe Pepe's....

[RobinsontoDuncan]

for chrissake, 17 and 8 is not a god damn slump, not playing 29 minutes off the bench it's not

[ChumpDumper]

perhaps past his primeLooked at your roster lately?

[DuncanMVP]

All you Spursies have high hopes on this Scola guy who is perhaps past his prime and even if he made it to the NBA earlier, KG (reigning MVP and voted West's top forward and not your beloved 2-time MVP) woulda took him night in and night out TO SCHOOLA !!! get it? SCHOOOOLA !!!! :lol

Wolves=lottery bound


you lost

[RobinsontoDuncan]

he is 25 years old? Past his prime?? wtf?

[spurster]

http://imgnews.naver.com/image/091/2004/08/29/v_00264498.jpg

[RobinsontoDuncan]

the guy should really stop by Jim's office some day.....

[kolko]

http://www.sport1.at/coremedia/pics/27/01/34/8x175x220x1,property=original.jpg

[Mark in Austin]

I'm concerned about Scola's transition to the NBA too, so I'm not just some apologist. But if I remember correctly, aren't rebounds recorded differently in Euroleague?

[ALVAREZ6]

aren't rebounds recorded differently in Euroleague?
How is that possible?

I don't see any variation possible of a rebound...

[ALVAREZ6]

All you Spursies have high hopes on this Scola guy who is perhaps past his prime and even if he made it to the NBA earlier, KG (reigning MVP and voted West's top forward and not your beloved 2-time MVP) woulda took him night in and night out TO SCHOOLA !!! get it? SCHOOOOLA !!!! :lol

Did you watch the KG interview? KG crying because he's losing, cus he hates his teammates poor effort...

You better realize that as of now, the wolves aren't even #8 you stupid fuck.

We'll see how often you come in this forum to talk trash when your teams is outside looking in at all the play-off teams.

...And you better hope that KG is a wolve next season, I wouldn't be surprised if he requested to be traded from that scrubby ass team that isn't even going to make the play offs with cassell, spree, wally, and oh yeah, maybe that KG guy should be helping.

[wildbill2u]

http://espndeportes.espn.go.com/2003/photos2004/0827/a_scola_luis_vt.jpg

Look at all his pics. Anyone who consistently has that much emotion on his face is going to light up this team with some energy.

[kolko]

Scola scored 33 points and 7 rebounds today.

[Das Texan]

I think Scola will bring some additional life to this team. With Malik gone now, it opens the door for Scola to be the first big off the bench.


The question with Scola is his defense and rebounding. He has worked long and hard with the Spurs staff doing what they ask of him and more.


I'm excited about the prospects of Scola. I would of preferred Malik o still be here at least in year one...but you cant always get what you really want.

[ALVAREZ6]

Scola scored 33 points and 7 rebounds today.

Really? That's great.

Maybe Luis was watching this thread... :fro

[waly.mg]

If Malik have a Big Heart, Scola have 2 hearts
He is in the Opposite side of Rasho

His 33 Points are 48 Efficiency Points

The box Score is here:

http://acb.com/fichas/LACB49192.php

He play in that game all of the 40 minutes of the game
80% from the Field and 90% from FT line
He was the MVP of the Week

[Slo spurs fan]

Ha, ha, ha they played against shitty team!!! Rasho was one of the BEST players of Kinder Bologna when they won Euroleage!

Saso Ozbolt of Union Olimpija scored 42 against Pivovarna Lasko and hes stats were: 7-9 for 2, 8-10 for 3 and 4-5 FT and had 5 rebs. So Spurs must have him!!! :rolleyes :rolleyes :rolleyes

[waly.mg]

I´m only talking about Heart
And he was the Max Scorer of The Olympic Final, a little thing

[gus]

Nope,

The best player when Virtus (Kinder) Bologna won Euroleague was Manu. IN fact he was the MVP.

Rasho was never a top player in Europe. Manu was, Sabonis was, Petrovic was, Rajda and Kukoc were some.

Gus

[sungo99]

http://espndeportes.espn.go.com/2003/photos2004/0827/a_scola_luis_vt.jpg
He's not missing his right eye, is he?

[Clandestino]

he looks like sloth from the goonies in that pic!

[gus]

Not anymore my dear friend.

I have seen many NBA'rs strugglin' in the Euroleague.

Of course NBA is better, but not that ... Better.

[danyel]

Nope,

The best player when Virtus (Kinder) Bologna won Euroleague was Manu. IN fact he was the MVP.

Rasho was never a top player in Europe. Manu was, Sabonis was, Petrovic was, Rajda and Kukoc were some.

Gus

Rasho won the euroleague with Kinder in 1998, Manu won it in 2001.

[Solid D]

Nope,

The best player when Virtus (Kinder) Bologna won Euroleague was Manu. IN fact he was the MVP.

Rasho was never a top player in Europe. Manu was, Sabonis was, Petrovic was, Rajda and Kukoc were some.

Gus

Don't forget Dejan Bodiroga.

[fonzy16]

I'm concerned about Scola's transition to the NBA too, so I'm not just some apologist. But if I remember correctly, aren't rebounds recorded differently in Euroleague?


a rebound is a rebound, but assists are actually recoreded differently. only assists in the direction of the basket counts. Example: if a center passes the ball back out to the guy on the perimeter and the guy makes the basket, it does not count as an assist. At least as i remember, anybody else knows this?

[Marhq]

lmao, he looks retarded
I thought the same the first time I saw him. Well, maybe not retarded but definitely not one of the brightest minds in our NT. Some time later, when I heard him in an interview I was surprised to find out that he was actually pretty smart, maybe above average, even if his face said otherwise :lol. He seemed a very centered person and was doing a great analysis of his career and basketball in general.

About the stats, I don't know if there are any differences in the way rebs are recorded because I guess there has to be a rebound for every shot attempt. But assist are certainly recorded differently, the player receiving the pass must score immediately, almost without even dribbling. In general the NBA is much more prone to inflate stats than FIBA leagues, I believe it's a marketing thing.

[RobinsontoDuncan]

We'll see how he pans out, but that Guerilla Face....someone ought to tell him not to do that anymore....awful.

[ChumpDumper]

Euroleague<<<<<NBA w/c means that a guy who puts up 30 and 10 over there is = 8 and 4 in the NBAMight want to check Manu's stats this year.

[waly.mg]

Manu have the same Numbers in the NBA as he had is Italy

[gus]

Yes Bodiroga is a big Euro player. I didn't mention
him because he don't play or played in the NBA

Gus

[kskonn]

Wolves009 your just upset because your team is struggling and they have no clue where they will be next year. They have guys that are out of their prime demanding new contracts while the spurs have their core locked down for six years with new role players waiting to get on the team. That is what happens when you have a good system with a humble superstar that leads by example.

[sa_butta]

Look at all his pics. Anyone who consistently has that much emotion on his face is going to light up this team with some energy.
he looks like Antonio Banderas

[waly.mg]

From this Link

http://www.euroleague.net/

You can Follow the Live Stats of Todays Game of the Euroleague

Through now, Scola have 5 Points, but Macijauskas have 18 (2P: 2-2, 3P: 3-3, FT: 5-5) at the end of the 1st Quarter for the TAU

The Tau is ahead by 20, 37-17

[waly.mg]

At the Half

4 L. Scola
Points 13
FG 6 / 10 60%
3P 0 / 0
FT 1 / 1
OR 1
DR 1
TR 2
ST 2
TO 1
AS 1
BLK 1
Min 16

[waly.mg]

3rd Q
4 L. Scola
Points 26
FG 9 / 14 64 %
FT 8 / 10 80%
DR 4
OR 1
TR 5
ST 2
TO 2
AS 2
BLK 2
Min 28

[T Park]

5 rebounds???

Hmmm, that could be improved with good coaching IMO.

[PM5K]

Those blocks look good, Tim Duncan gets every ball within ten feet of him so....

[Ozzy]

As already said Scola had a decent outing last night:

Here are the game stats:
http://www.euroleague.net/stats/statsPartido.jsp?temporada=E04&jornada=16&partido=182

And here is a nice overview of his euroleague stats (for this year):
http://www.euroleague.net/plantillas/jugador.jsp?id=AJG


[Edit:] Just rechecked the site... There are also averages for his whole pro career at the site. And here is an impresive thing: Scola has >55% accuracy for 2pt for all but the 1st season (when he only played 4 games).
Impressive...?

[wildbill2u]

Don't forget Dejan Bodiroga.

That should be a war cry
:lol

[Solid D]

8-10 from the FT line for Scola is way too good for a prospective Spur.

[Slo spurs fan]

Don´t worry Solid D, he will mess it up when he will join Spurs. :lol

[waly.mg]

For me, San aAntonio need some players who can beat the big games of the Opposite Team
May be Rasho can Stop and play more D with the Big Guys, but If someone Like Scola scores 20 points, the problem is for the other side
Duncan and Rasho can score 30-40 Points a game and let the PF-C in less than 30 points
A TD-Scola pair may can´t remain theys in less than 30, but both can score 40-50 points.
If the Big Guys won the paint, doesn´t matter if the Score is 40-30 or 50-40

[Karl Mundt]

If Olo played in the euroleague or whatever league Schoola plays in, he'd be the MVP!!!

Euroleague<<<<<NBA w/c means that a guy who puts up 30 and 10 over there is = 8 and 4 in the NBA

This little guy's nonsense doesn't usually warrant a reply, but here's an interesting fact many people don't know about: in the 1999 season, during the lockout, many NBA players signed short term contracts with European teams, and among them was also the much anticipated number one pick Olowokandi. What is interesting is he signed for excactly the team mentioned above, Kinder Bologna, where Rasho (the 17th pick in the same draft) was playing at time (and also Ginobili, a couple of years after Rasho left for the NBA). A much hyped addition soon turned fruitless when the coaches realized "Olo" was far from the player they imagined and he was to serve only as a back-up for Rasho. Much like Minnesota is probably feeling right now.

[waly.mg]

If Olo played in the euroleague or whatever league Schoola plays in, he'd be the MVP!!!

Euroleague<<<<<NBA w/c means that a guy who puts up 30 and 10 over there is = 8 and 4 in the NBA

I don´t think so
One player can Score 30 Points and 10 boards in the Bobcats and 8 and 4 in the Spurs
It´s a Minutes situation, Attempts situation and Defense situation.
If Tony Parker would be in the Bobcats he would be a player of more than 20 points by game, without any problem and Manu too
Kobe now haven´t Shaq in his Team but his efficiency is down, because he have doubles or triple mark in each play.
Scola will be the Tim Duncan backup, he can play aprox 15 minutes, the half of the minutes that plays in Spain
If S-Jax had followed in the Spurs, he wouldn´t have the numbers that it has in Indiana
In Europe the players plays less than 60 minutes of basketball a week, and in the NBA the Starters are playing more than 120
60 Minutes a week is the number of minutes that Scola can play max in the NBA in the next season, is aprox 15 min a game
But his 48 Minutes numbers will be about 20 and 6 Boards or 6 and 2 each game

[waly.mg]

This little guy's nonsense doesn't usually warrant a reply, but here's an interesting fact many people don't know about: in the 1999 season, during the lockout, many NBA players signed short term contracts with European teams, and among them was also the much anticipated number one pick Olowokandi. What is interesting is he signed for excactly the team mentioned above, Kinder Bologna, where Rasho (the 17th pick in the same draft) was playing at time (and also Ginobili, a couple of years after Rasho left for the NBA). A much hyped addition soon turned fruitless when the coaches realized "Olo" was far from the player they imagined and he was to serve only as a back-up for Rasho. Much like Minnesota is probably feeling right now.

When Manu was in The Kinder Bologna, his team had a list of Salaris around the 18 million dollars, a few less than the Bobcats have