Do you tip at Sonic?

[JBIIRockets]

Simple Question. Yes or No.

Everytime I eat there, I always wonder if I should tip them since they bring your food to you.

[florige]

uh-oh......:lmao

[BacktoBasics]

This must be where the new Matrix starts over fresh again.

[remingtonbo2001]

No, nor do I eat there.

IMO, their food is terrible.

[CuckingFunt]

This must be where the new Matrix starts over fresh again.

No, it's not starting over.

Deja vu is just a glitch.

[IceColdBrewski]

I usually do.

[mrsmaalox]

I do

[ducks]

no
but if you leave a quarter you are acting like a child

[Viva Las Espuelas]

i guess the search feature isn't working. here's a hint. pay with credit card and youre off the hook.

[angel_luv]

If the food runner is courteous and friendly, yes.
Otherwise no.

I try not to hold it against the car hop if the food takes awhile to come out because I realize they do not cook it.

[ashbeeigh]

oh lord

[to21]

This again?

Is this ATRAIN's troll?

[JudynTX]

Absolutely, the leftover change from my order.

[Dex]

I don't think the people at Sonic deserve a....

Wait. This has been done already.

If you really want my opinion, go back in time...http://spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=96545&highlight=sonic


The real poll should be....How many guys only tip the Sonic chick if she's good lookin?

[thispego]

yes.. if my carhop is hot.. if not... nope

lol

[florige]

This again?

Is this ATRAIN's troll?



:lmao:rollin

[Viva Las Espuelas]

yes.. if my carhop is hot.. if not... nope

lol

here's a better question. do you go back because she is hot?

[UTexasFan]

hell no

its a fast food joint. Why should they get a tip because someone walks a few steps to hand you the bag of food vs giving it to you out a fast food window? When you're at Whataburger or something...and they ask you to pull forward if the order is taking a bit longer so some dude can bring it out to your car after a few mins - do you tip then?

[Dex]

When you're at Whataburger or something...and they ask you to pull forward if the order is taking a bit longer so some dude can bring it out to your car after a few mins - do you tip then?

You don't? Cheap ass.

You're the reason the economy is in a recession. :lmao

[dallaskd]

It's called "Keep the change"

[T Park]

I doubt a tip would get a number.

[baseline bum]

hell no

its a fast food joint. Why should they get a tip because someone walks a few steps to hand you the bag of food vs giving it to you out a fast food window? When you're at Whataburger or something...and they ask you to pull forward if the order is taking a bit longer so some dude can bring it out to your car after a few mins - do you tip then?

word

I'm not tipping for fucking fast food. If Sonic expects me to pay their employees wages, they could at least not have the most expensive and shittiest tasting fast food.

[Dex]

It's called "Keep the change"

I'd be interested to see how the tip shares Sonic employees receive was affected when they installed all the automatic card swipers on the drive-in menu.

I bet Mr. The Hedgehog is spinning in his grave.

[samikeyp]

When they finally get them up here in the Arctic....I will be glad to just to be able eat there again.

[jack sommerset]

I don't but what makes me laugh are these dumb fucks that atually say they give them there change. 39 cents is not a tip, its a insult.

Some of those workers that walk 30 feet with a bag of burgers really work for that change. Thanking you,going over your order, complementing your choices and of course they finish you off with some mints. Get a job as a waiter.

I will not go to a Sonic unless in a mall because of the whole tipping controversy. I called Sonic corp 7-8 years ago, they said they do not do tips but some of these workers expect it.

[Blake]

I hate Sonic.....

yet that stupid happy hour keeps drawing me in...

If I ever get into an accident because I was drunk on a lime slushy, you can bet that I'm gonna sue Sonic for not realizing that I should have been cut off.

[thispego]

here's a better question. do you go back because she is hot?

fuck no, she's just a hood rat sonic carhop. turn-over rate is too high at sonic anywyas... i dont go often enough to catch the same one twice

[bus driver]

since the topic is tipping, would you tip a waiter or waitress that overcharges you?

here is the story, some friends and i were out eating and drinking but i told the waitress that i want a separate tab and she said cool. well at the end of the night, she charged me $20 more. and she got mad because i didnt leave her a good tip, so i told her why and she looked at me like i was crazy! what would others have done?

[IronMexican]

i wish i knew a sonics out here

[mrsmaalox]

I hate Sonic.....

yet that stupid happy hour keeps drawing me in...

If I ever get into an accident because I was drunk on a lime slushy, you can bet that I'm gonna sue Sonic for not realizing that I should have been cut off.

I'm extremely fond of Sonic's happy hour myself

[Blake]

since the topic is tipping, would you tip a waiter or waitress that overcharges you?

here is the story, some friends and i were out eating and drinking but i told the waitress that i want a separate tab and she said cool. well at the end of the night, she charged me $20 more. and she got mad because i didnt leave her a good tip, so i told her why and she looked at me like i was crazy! what would others have done?

I dont follow. if you were overcharged why didnt you go to the manager to get your money back?

[fatsack]

only if she's a midget.

(Obscure CosmicCowboy reference)

[Anti.Hero]

Not for an 8 dollar hambuger, with shitty tater tots and 3/4 ice 1/4 coke.


Shit is getting expensive. Can't wait until the min. wage is $8.

[MannyIsGod]

8 dollar hamburger? wtf?

[IronMexican]

how much is minimo in Texas?

[baseline bum]

how much is minimo in Texas?

Isn't it like $5.50/hr or something really fucked up?

[AlamoSpursFan]

Has anybody else noticed that Sonic is starting to build restaurants with no drive up menus? There's one in Italy, TX, across the highway from the truck stop and there's one in Ozona, TX. Just Sonic like any other fast food place. No carhops, just a building with a drive thru.

[IronMexican]

Isn't it like $5.50/hr or something really fucked up?

shit must be cheap out there or it to be that low

[MannyIsGod]

Has anybody else noticed that Sonic is starting to build restaurants with no drive up menus? There's one in Italy, TX, across the highway from the truck stop and there's one in Ozona, TX. Just Sonic like any other fast food place. No carhops, just a building with a drive thru.

Good

[PM5K]

I rarely do because I usually don't order much, but if I order for the whole family and they have to carry a bunch of shit out then I usually tip.

[Ginofan]

how much is minimo in Texas?

I believe minimum wage went up to $7.25 this past July 24th.

[rr2418]

Simple Question. Yes or No.

Everytime I eat there, I always wonder if I should tip them since they bring your food to you.


I read in the Express-News last year in the Food Section from a Sonic's rep that customers DO NOT have to tip!

[Kori Ellis]

I read in the Express-News last year in the Food Section from a Sonic's rep that customers DO NOT have to tip!

Well no one HAS to tip. ;)

But I think their employees are paid decently (not waitress wages) so they probably aren't expecting much of a tip. I find that the order is wrong about 1/2 the time at Sonic. Peach tea becomes raspberry tea, etc. We tip them sometimes and sometimes not.

[Kori Ellis]

I believe minimum wage went up to $7.25 this past July 24th.

I think that it's actually $6.55. It goes up to $7.25 next year on July 24th, as far as I know.

The cash wage minimum for tipped employees is $2.13 :wow

[Brutalis]

I tip my change. If it's 14.11 I'll give 15.00 and say keep it. That's it though.

[Ginofan]

I think that it's actually $6.55. It goes up to $7.25 next year on July 24th, as far as I know.

The cash wage minimum for tipped employees is $2.13 :wow

Yup, you're right, my bad! I knew it was going up to 7 something...I just thought it was this past year.

[exstatic]

This must be where the new Matrix starts over fresh again.

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[T Park]

I think that it's actually $6.55. It goes up to $7.25 next year on July 24th, as far as I know.

The cash wage minimum for tipped employees is $2.13 :wow


Good lord....

7.25?

[baseline bum]

Good lord....

7.25?

Good lord because... ?

[Sense]

Simple Question. Yes or No.

Everytime I eat there, I always wonder if I should tip them since they bring your food to you.

lmao I love this thread..

I've been wondering this FOREVER!

lol besides questioning myself if I should tip or not... it could always seem awkward too.... you know... It's too easy of a job for them to earn tips.. they only make one trip to your car and get the money...

they really don't break a sweat.

[T Park]

Good lord because... ?


Thats gotta be hell on the small business owners.

[mavs>spurs2]

Thats gotta be hell on the small business owners.

what the fuck? 7.25 is peanuts..that's barely even enough for spending money for a high school kid now days.

[exstatic]

Thats gotta be hell on the small business owners.

Well, it didn't go up at all for like 15 years. This just isn't summer working kids. There are people who have to live on that. It will work out to be ~ $14,500 per year.

[mavs>spurs2]

I say raise it to 10 dollars so companies quit hiring illegals to work cheap and it would also help narrow the gap between the rich and the poor.

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

I say raise it to 10 dollars so companies quit hiring illegals to work cheap and it would also help narrow the gap between the rich and the poor.

Wait, what?

[mavs>spurs2]

Wait, what?

does that not still happen now days? the company i work for just hired an illegal and he makes minimum wage

i know it's against the law but since i've seen it, i assumed it still happens

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

You think an even higher minimum wage would cause employers to further refrain from hiring people who can't exactly go to the Department of Labor to complain about wages?

[mavs>spurs2]

You have a point. But raising it would still take some of the money out of the business owners hands and into the little guy's pocket, correct?

[J.T.]

People tip at Sonic because back in the day Sonic only hired pretty girls to work as carhops, and if you slipped one of them a little tip, she'd give your her phone number and you could get some action on the side later that night.

Now Sonic has changed its ways and hires "OK" to borderline ugly girls, and even men to bring your food to you. For whatever reason, probably the overweight patrons who frequent Sonic lowering their standards, the tipping thing has carried over even though most Sonics only employ maybe five truly attractive women and never have them working the same shift.

Bottomline is people feeling sorry for Sonic girls not getting tipped need to piss off. There are 100 other part time jobs I can think of that require more work than walking to someone's car and handing them a bag of food.

[T Park]

what the fuck? 7.25 is peanuts..that's barely even enough for spending money for a high school kid now days.


Start up a business and then you tell me how its peanuts.

[baseline bum]

LMAO @ $7.25 hurting a business owner's pockets. If you're paying your workers $7.25 an hour, then you're probably getting ripped off as no one's going to give a shit about whether they're doing enough to make your company successful for those kind of peanuts.

[T Park]

Well, it didn't go up at all for like 15 years. This just isn't summer working kids. There are people who have to live on that. It will work out to be ~ $14,500 per year.


If your worth your weight, you will get a raise from that.


I'm sorry if decisions the person made forces them to live on that, but a business owner shouldn't be penalized every year having to raise it.

[Jekka]

It was hard enough to make ends meet making $13.70/hr this past year considering the prices of gas and food. It's still insane to me how much I have to spend at the grocery store now to avoid eating like crap, compared to just a couple of years ago. Produce, dairy, meat ... it's all gone up so freaking much. I can't remember the last time I went to store and spent less than $30, which is ridiculous. Minimum wage is a joke.

[mavs>spurs2]

Well, it didn't go up at all for like 15 years. This just isn't summer working kids. There are people who have to live on that. It will work out to be ~ $14,500 per year.

Yes, I work with some people like this and feel so bad for them. America is changing the gap between the rich and the poor just keeps growing and growing, the middle class is starting to disappear.

[T Park]

LMAO @ $7.25 hurting a business owner's pockets. If you're paying your workers $7.25 an hour, then you're probably getting ripped off as no one's going to give a shit about whether they're doing enough to make your company successful for those kind of peanuts.


:lol

Typical "F the business owner" mentality this county has now a days.

[baseline bum]

:lol

Typical "F the business owner" mentality this county has now a days.

Who is going to have any loyalty to a boss who Jews them like that?

[mavs>spurs2]

If your worth your weight, you will get a raise from that.


I'm sorry if decisions the person made forces them to live on that, but a business owner shouldn't be penalized every year having to raise it.

dude, you fail at understanding economics. in order for the economy to function there HAS to be people at the bottom. if everyone on earth made the right decisions and went to college there would STILL wouldn't be enough high paying jobs for everyone

[CuckingFunt]

If your worth your weight, you will get a raise from that.


I'm sorry if decisions the person made forces them to live on that, but a business owner shouldn't be penalized every year having to raise it.

You really are fucking clueless, aren't you?

[J.T.]

Dude I worked for FAMILY for two years and got Jew'd up by my own blood. Two years and no raise is bullshit. F the business owner if they're going to be like that. I'm going to get my cousin an Israel flag for Christmas. Or maybe a sweater with the star of David.

[PM5K]

This shit is funny, TPark is such a horrible businessman that he can't afford to pay his employees 7.25 an hour AND make money for himself..

[baseline bum]

If your worth your weight, you will get a raise from that.


I'm sorry if decisions the person made forces them to live on that, but a business owner shouldn't be penalized every year having to raise it.

This one really cracks me up... as if $5.50 is the same as it was 15 years ago. :lmao

$7.25/hr is the equivalent 45 cents/hour less than it was 13 years ago when the minimum wage was $5.50. :lol

http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0001519.html

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

I like where this thread is going.

[T Park]

dude, you fail at understanding economics. in order for the economy to function there HAS to be people at the bottom. if everyone on earth made the right decisions and went to college there would STILL wouldn't be enough high paying jobs for everyone


No i understand that :lol

But to keep raising minimum wage every year and not give the business owners a break IE california in their budget is talking of raising taxes again on business owners, hurts everyone.

[T Park]

You really are fucking clueless, aren't you?


Yup.

Owning a business and being fucked by the people of your state has really jaded me over the years pardon me.

[T Park]

This one really cracks me up... as if $5.50 is the same as it was 15 years ago. :lmao

$7.25/hr is the equivalent 45 cents/hour less than it was 13 years ago when the minimum wage was $5.50. :lol

http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0001519.html


Yes.

What about the taxes the business owner paid, do they get adjusted for the raise in the money he has to pay out?

[CuckingFunt]

Yup.

Owning a business and being fucked by the people of your state has really jaded me over the years pardon me.

I wasn't referring to the actions of my state, which has done a pretty good job in recent years of fucking everyone regardless of social status.

Rather, I was referring to the Bootstraps Theory bullshit assumption that a hearty work ethic is the only thing people earning minimum wage need to better support themselves. Try supporting yourself, or better yet your family, on $7.25/hour in a thankless minimum wage job for a year and then complain to me about the oppressive life of a business owner.

And, before you have a chance to assume that I don't know what it's like to own a business in California, you should probably know that I have two family members who owned businesses for well over a decade each and had to pay employees. One of whom I did the bookkeeping for. I know how it works.

[T Park]

[Try supporting yourself, or better yet your family, on $7.25/hour in a thankless minimum wage job for a year and then complain to me about the oppressive life of a business owner.

/QUOTE]

That wage was neve MEANT to support a family on.

[QUOTE]And, before you have a chance to assume that I don't know what it's like to own a business in California, you should probably know that I have two family members who owned businesses for well over a decade each and had to pay employees. One of whom I did the bookkeeping for. I know how it works.


Never said you didn't.

Then you should know what a dickhead this state is to business ownes then.

[baseline bum]

Yes.

What about the taxes the business owner paid, do they get adjusted for the raise in the money he has to pay out?

My parents are business owners in Texas, and they told me they pay significantly less taxes on their business than they did 15 years ago.

[Tits McGee]

I tip at Sonic!!!

[CuckingFunt]

That wage was neve MEANT to support a family on.

Doesn't mean it's not happening. A lot.

Obviously, I don't know you, and I would never presume to know your entire life history. But based on what I've read here, you've managed a certain amount of financial success in your life -- you're a business owner (from family, right?), you're able to travel, you have nice things -- and you've probably had to work very hard to get/maintain those things. So, congratulations to your success. Sincerely.

But not everyone is so lucky, no matter how hard they may work throughout their lifetime.

The attitude, which usually comes from those with privilege (and, as far as this country is concerned, young white male business owner with money = privilege), that other people can be equally successful if only they apply themselves is incredibly ignorant. And a particular pet peeve of mine. Your employees aren't working for you because operating carnival rides is their lifelong dream; they need that job. To even have the gall to complain about having to pay your employees $7.25/hour (or whatever it is in California, since that was originally thrown out as a Texas figure) just floors me.

[Jekka]

Doesn't mean it's not happening. A lot.

Obviously, I don't know you, and I would never presume to know your entire life history. But based on what I've read here, you've managed a certain amount of financial success in your life -- you're a business owner (from family, right?), you're able to travel, you have nice things -- and you've probably had to work very hard to get/maintain those things. So, congratulations to your success. Sincerely.

But not everyone is so lucky, no matter how hard they may work throughout their lifetime.

The attitude, which usually comes from those with privilege (and, as far as this country is concerned, young white male business owner with money = privilege), that other people can be equally successful if only they apply themselves is incredibly ignorant. And a particular pet peeve of mine. Your employees aren't working for you because operating carnival rides is their lifelong dream; they need that job. To even have the gall to complain about having to pay your employees $7.25/hour (or whatever it is in California, since that was originally thrown out as a Texas figure) just floors me.

Thanks for saying that much more nicely than I was about to :tu

[pseudofan]

What really pisses me off is when they PRESUME they can tip themselves with my change........:bang
Bitches!
Once, the bill was like 3.75 and I paid with a $10......... the bitch came back with $5.25 for my change..... I was like, "hand over my other dollar dirty whore!"

UHGGGGGGGHHH! I was sooooooo pissed!

[Ronaldo McDonald]

Doesn't mean it's not happening. A lot.

Obviously, I don't know you, and I would never presume to know your entire life history. But based on what I've read here, you've managed a certain amount of financial success in your life -- you're a business owner (from family, right?), you're able to travel, you have nice things -- and you've probably had to work very hard to get/maintain those things. So, congratulations to your success. Sincerely.

But not everyone is so lucky, no matter how hard they may work throughout their lifetime.

The attitude, which usually comes from those with privilege (and, as far as this country is concerned, young white male business owner with money = privilege), that other people can be equally successful if only they apply themselves is incredibly ignorant. And a particular pet peeve of mine. Your employees aren't working for you because operating carnival rides is their lifelong dream; they need that job. To even have the gall to complain about having to pay your employees $7.25/hour (or whatever it is in California, since that was originally thrown out as a Texas figure) just floors me.

:rollin

He owns a carnival?

Edit: Ban-worthy material.

[baseline bum]

:rollin

He owns a carnival?

Edit: Ban-worthy material.

pussy

[bus driver]

I dont follow. if you were overcharged why didnt you go to the manager to get your money back?


the extra $20 was from a friends bill (that he didnt get charged) so i paid the $20 from what would have been on his bill

[Buddy Holly]

I always leave a tip at Sonics.

"Go to college."

[Viva Las Espuelas]

i kinda see both points of the argument between t park and everyone else, but there's a reason it's called minimum wage. if you work for minimum wage don't expect to have a "maximum" life. you gotta be held accountable of what you bring yourself. if you have 12 kids and lay everything in sight, then don't feel that you're screwed or your boss is an ass. live with your own actions. to all the ones bitching at tpark about what he pays his employees, try running a business yourself and i think, no, i pretty sure you'll see where he's coming from.

[englishspursfan]

my missus fist took we there when i was in texas an she bought this drink which i could only desribe as tasteing like alien piss an never ate there since

[AlamoSpursFan]

my missus fist took we there when i was in texas an she bought this drink which i could only desribe as tasteing like alien piss an never ate there since

Route 44 Cherry Limeade!

YEEHAW!!!

[Anti.Hero]

yesssss my min. wage derail was successful.


Onto the next campaign.

[AlamoSpursFan]

A couple of the cars are still on the track, but the ones with the deadly chlorine gas appear to have ruptured.

:lol

[Dex]

Doesn't mean it's not happening. A lot.

Obviously, I don't know you, and I would never presume to know your entire life history. But based on what I've read here, you've managed a certain amount of financial success in your life -- you're a business owner (from family, right?), you're able to travel, you have nice things -- and you've probably had to work very hard to get/maintain those things. So, congratulations to your success. Sincerely.

But not everyone is so lucky, no matter how hard they may work throughout their lifetime.

The attitude, which usually comes from those with privilege (and, as far as this country is concerned, young white male business owner with money = privilege), that other people can be equally successful if only they apply themselves is incredibly ignorant. And a particular pet peeve of mine. Your employees aren't working for you because operating carnival rides is their lifelong dream; they need that job. To even have the gall to complain about having to pay your employees $7.25/hour (or whatever it is in California, since that was originally thrown out as a Texas figure) just floors me.

Extremely well put.

[manufor3]

yes, thats the only way sonic makes money

[mavs>spurs2]

Sonic is the ONLY fast food place where they expect tips. Sonic should just pay their workers full wage instead of expecting consumers to subsidize their labor expenses.

[Buddy Holly]

:lol

Typical "F the business owner" mentality this county has now a days.

Those employees are the ones making your owner money. Tell that owner to own his business and go out and make that small scratch and we'll see how well they like it.

[Buddy Holly]

Start up a business and then you tell me how its peanuts.

The same to you. :toast

[Buddy Holly]

That wage was neve MEANT to support a family on.

It's like you purposely intend to look like a douche bag.

[Buddy Holly]

Sonic is the ONLY fast food place where they expect tips. Sonic should just pay their workers full wage instead of expecting consumers to subsidize their labor expenses.

I agree. It's stupid that make them get tips when they're not even "waiters."

[mrsmaalox]

Sonic is the ONLY fast food place where they expect tips. Sonic should just pay their workers full wage instead of expecting consumers to subsidize their labor expenses.

Other fast food restaurants don't necessarily pay a full wage. The minimum wage applies only to non-exempt employees. Part time emplyees are exempt. Fast food restaurants hire mostly students on a part time basis, thus they don't qualify for benefits either. So in reality, the fast food places are raking in the dough, by not paying full wage/full time benefits and the consumer is still subsidizing their labor expenses thru the ever increasing prices of their products. So don't at Sonic tip if you don't want to, but when you do, the only person who is benefitting is the carhop---not Sonic, they've already made their money off of you.

[Buddy Holly]

Start up a business and then you tell me how its peanuts.

How small a business are we talking? Because I've heard from people who deal with "small" businesses that a "small" business is a company with at least 5 million dollars in yearly revenue.

But let's say you mean a small restaurant with 15 employees and they operating budget is 500,000 a year. Most really small business don't have more than 15 employees and that's pushing it.

Let's say those people employees earn... $5.50 an hour.

Those three employees are costing that restaurant $158,400 a year to employee.

Now let's say they gave each employee a raise and they're now making $7.25 an hour.

Well, those 15 employees are now costing $208,800 to employ.

A whooping $50,400 more a year in expenses. You're fucking retarded if you think that's a big deal.

[ashbeeigh]

I just went to Sonic and gave the girl a tip... after using my credit card.

[Anti.Hero]

It's like you purposely intend to look like a douche bag.

awww the truth hurts.

[Blake]

How small a business are we talking? Because I've heard from people who deal with "small" businesses that a "small" business is a company with at least 5 million dollars in yearly revenue.

But let's say you mean a small restaurant with 15 employees and they operating budget is 500,000 a year. Most really small business don't have more than 15 employees and that's pushing it.

Let's say those people employees earn... $5.50 an hour.

Those three employees are costing that restaurant $158,400 a year to employee.

Now let's say they gave each employee a raise and they're now making $7.25 an hour.

Well, those 15 employees are now costing $208,800 to employ.

A whooping $50,400 more a year in expenses. You're fucking retarded if you think that's a big deal.

just curious, how did you calculate these expenses?

A person making $5 an hour grosses roughly $10,000 a year on a 40 hour work week. x3 = $30,000. Where does the extra $120,000+ in expense come from?

[Anti.Hero]

Those employees are the ones making your owner money. Tell that owner to own his business and go out and make that small scratch and we'll see how well they like it.

This makes no sense. Most owners HAVE gone out and started at the bottom and done all the grunt work. The current grunts could not keep the business above water. Most business owners cannot even keep their own business above water.

TPark is owning you guys.

Min. wage jobs are for high school kids and people with no education. Education is a bitch, but life is also a bitch. Don't have two kids if you know you will still be making 5.50 in 5 years. But F that responsible stuff. This is America.

[DisgruntledLionFan#54,927]

I can't find anyone to work for $10-12/hour up here. At least, anyone who actually wants to work.

Found a lot of people who just want to collect a paycheck every week.

[Buddy Holly]

just curious, how did you calculate these expenses?

A person making $5 an hour grosses roughly $10,000 a year on a 40 hour work week. x3 = $30,000. Where does the extra $120,000+ in expense come from?

Remove the word three. I meant 15, as in the 15 employees I mentioned.

I seriously did not realize I typed three. :lol

[Buddy Holly]

awww the truth hurts.

Yeah, it hurt me so much. :sleep

Whether that statement was the truth or not, the simple fact is, he comes off sounding like a douche bag.

[Buddy Holly]

This makes no sense. Most owners HAVE gone out and started at the bottom and done all the grunt work. The current grunts could not keep the business above water. Most business owners cannot even keep their own business above water.

What owners are you talking about? How many people start off with no employees to begin with let alone a business that can get away with playing employees $5.50?

Please thoroughly explain that to me and others.



TPark is owning you guys.

Well, since you said it, it must be true. :lol


Min. wage jobs are for high school kids and people with no education. Education is a bitch, but life is also a bitch. Don't have two kids if you know you will still be making 5.50 in 5 years. But F that responsible stuff. This is America.

What a pile of dog shit that came from out of your mouth. How warm was it?

Fuck you're a sad excuse for a human being.

The minimum wage was enacted in the 1930's, was so to keep wages fair not because Johnny wanted a cool job during high school.

Do you know that the minimum wage in 1968 was more than it is now, adjusted for inflation. How sad is that?

Yet now we have high schoolers making hundreds of thousands of dollars as well as becoming millionaires but we can't raise the minimum wage so that everyone has a chance at a above poverty living.

[jack sommerset]

I can imagine the embarassment of working at a fast food chain in itself but to have some dipshit say "keep the change" a womping 17 cents would even be more embarassing. Why don't you just stand on a corner with ur hand out. its a fast food place. You don't tip some asshole because he walked a burger to ur car. The asshole does not even take the order. I will not eat at Sonic with the car ports because of this bullshit. it makes me uneasy.

[Anti.Hero]

A whooping $50,400 more a year in expenses. You're fucking retarded if you think that's a big deal.

Spoken like a true non-business owner?

You have any idea how valuable that capital would be on purchasing discounts alone?

[Blake]

Remove the word three. I meant 15, as in the 15 employees I mentioned.

I seriously did not realize I typed three. :lol

gotcha. I thought maybe there some extreme insurance costs that I wasn't aware of.

[Blake]

honestly, I don't think Ive ever had anyone over the age of 21 bring my food/drink out to my car.

and if you are a dude, you should not be working as a carhop for Sonic. Your sissy ass should be grabbing a feather duster and a black skirt to go to work for Molly Maid.....

just sayin

[Buddy Holly]

Spoken like a true non-business owner?

You have any idea how valuable that capital would be on purchasing discounts alone?

Kid, I'm done with you. You come up with "the minimum wage is for teens and stupids" and well, yeah, that's enough of that stuff.

[DisgruntledLionFan#54,927]

Almost as stupid as saying that increasing wages by 50k in a single year for a small business owner is nothing.

[Buddy Holly]

Almost as stupid as saying that increasing wages by 50k in a single year for a small business owner is nothing.

Again, how small?

A small business, the size I assume you're thinking, wouldn't have 15 employees..

[Buddy Holly]

Maybe some of you should read:

http://press.princeton.edu/titles/5632.html

[TheSonicGuy]

I always let them keep the change.

[jack sommerset]

I always let them keep the change.

Whats is ur best and worst tip?Anyone else can answer that.,