View Full Version : Who will John McCain name as VP?
T Park
08-22-2008, 10:34 PM
Im gonna say Romney. Very well spoken, pretty slick, very popular amongst conservatives and very very well accomplished business man who understands the economy very well.
Nbadan
08-22-2008, 11:17 PM
No Lieberman?
td4mvp21
08-22-2008, 11:23 PM
Oh I hope he picks Romney, just to see if my parents will still vote McCain's way.
Nbadan
08-22-2008, 11:40 PM
The trouble with Romney is he would further alienate the Fundy wing of the GOP that votes Republican in straight-ticket numbers......you wanna see the GOP get really walloped in the House and Senate races? Neither do they....
T Park
08-23-2008, 01:57 AM
No Lieberman?
He couldn't get elected with an incumbent vice president, what makes anyone think he would help McCain?
Nbadan
08-23-2008, 02:03 AM
Lieberman was in Georgia about the same time as Biden.......hell, I wouldn't be surprised if it was Jeb Bush....
Holt's Cat
08-23-2008, 02:07 AM
It's surprising he feigned mortality and selected a running mate.
AFBlue
08-23-2008, 07:48 AM
Man I don't envy McCain's position at this point. Obama probably picked the strongest VP candidate in the field and I don't see a way that McCain can match it with a relatively weak group of potential running mates.
Guys like Pawlenty and Jindal would certainly be fresh, but I don't think they're well enough known on the national stage. Virtually no one has talked about Huckabee since he dropped out and some of his more bold ideas would surely draw criticism in the general election campaign....though I admittedly like his genuine approach.
I guess the guy to go with is Romney....bleh. I specifically targeted Romney in the primary campaign as someone I would NOT vote for. He lacked the genuine appeal and didn't really have a substantive talking point....except to say that he made money and to criticize everyone else.
It'll probably be Romney, but I didn't vote for him out of principle...I went with Huckabee.
samikeyp
08-23-2008, 07:50 AM
Yonivore. :)
T Park
08-23-2008, 10:54 AM
didn't really have a substantive talking point
I would say his was, how to keep the economy going.
Really smart businessman whos very successfull, would be pretty darn good at managing an economy.
It would be an even more historic election if he was the guy.
An african american for president, a mormon for vice president on the other side.
AFBlue
08-23-2008, 11:28 AM
I would say his was, how to keep the economy going.
Really smart businessman whos very successfull, would be pretty darn good at managing an economy.
It would be an even more historic election if he was the guy.
An african american for president, a mormon for vice president on the other side.
In the primary season he talked more about being successful in the economy than actually laying out a plan to turn the economy around. Besides, a vice president (or president for that matter) actually has very little control of the state of the economy.
At most, he would give the appearance that he shores up a noted weakness of McCain.
T Park
08-23-2008, 12:02 PM
In the primary season he talked more about being successful in the economy than actually laying out a plan to turn the economy around. Besides, a vice president (or president for that matter) actually has very little control of the state of the economy.
At most, he would give the appearance that he shores up a noted weakness of McCain.
Kinda like Biden? :)
Actually I think McCain is a delegator and he would delegate the economy part to Romney. Honestly he can't wrong either way, hes got great guys in both Huckabee and Romney.
Johnny_Blaze_47
08-23-2008, 12:24 PM
I read an AP story where it was suggested McCain might have been considering David Petraeus, but I've read where Petraeus has said before he has no political ambitions. Plus, with him being confirmed to CentCom, it's probably unlikely.
T Park
08-23-2008, 12:47 PM
Petraeus would make no sense at all.
Hes gotta get someone thats great at economics and someone with a conservative record to unite all the republicans and what not.
Mr. Peabody
08-23-2008, 01:11 PM
Kinda like Biden? :)
Actually I think McCain is a delegator and he would delegate the economy part to Romney. Honestly he can't wrong either way, hes got great guys in both Huckabee and Romney.
Oh god, not Huckabee. How can we have a Vice-President that doesn't believe in evolution?
TheProfessor
08-23-2008, 01:18 PM
I would say Romney with Pawlenty right behind. Both will have their hands full with Biden in a debate.
Nbadan
08-23-2008, 01:41 PM
A lot of the scuttle-butt is centering around this guy
http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/images/2007/10/10/thompsonbillpuglianogetty.jpg
T Park
08-23-2008, 02:10 PM
Oh god, not Huckabee. How can we have a Vice-President that doesn't believe in evolution?
Yeah I mean, that would be a total first! :rolleyes
T Park
08-23-2008, 02:11 PM
I would love it if it was Fred Thompson, but he would be too polarizing and is too conservative for McCain.
Mr. Peabody
08-23-2008, 02:13 PM
Yeah I mean, that would be a total first! :rolleyes
Hell, plenty of people in the past also believed that the Sun revolved around the Earth, but that doesn't excuse someone in contemporary America from espousing that opinion.
T Park
08-23-2008, 02:17 PM
Hell, plenty of people in the past also believed that the Sun revolved around the Earth, but that doesn't excuse someone in contemporary America from espousing that opinion.
:lol
Ok whatever.
Man I don't envy McCain's position at this point. Obama probably picked the strongest VP candidate in the field and I don't see a way that McCain can match it with a relatively weak group of potential running mates.
Guys like Pawlenty and Jindal would certainly be fresh, but I don't think they're well enough known on the national stage. Virtually no one has talked about Huckabee since he dropped out and some of his more bold ideas would surely draw criticism in the general election campaign....though I admittedly like his genuine approach.
I guess the guy to go with is Romney....bleh. I specifically targeted Romney in the primary campaign as someone I would NOT vote for. He lacked the genuine appeal and didn't really have a substantive talking point....except to say that he made money and to criticize everyone else.
It'll probably be Romney, but I didn't vote for him out of principle...I went with Huckabee.
Biden brings absolutely NOTHING to the Obama camp. At least if McCain picks Romney, he'll probably secure the entire southwest due to the Mormon vote.
I would actually like to see McCain pick Lieberman, though.
Mr. Peabody
08-23-2008, 02:54 PM
Biden brings absolutely NOTHING to the Obama camp. At least if McCain picks Romney, he'll probably secure the entire southwest due to the Mormon vote.
I would actually like to see McCain pick Lieberman, though.
I wouldn't say he brings nothing. He was born in Pennsylvania (swing state), he's Catholic (swing vote), he's older (Obama dominates younger voters, but lags with older voters), he's a foreign policy expert (an alleged Obama weakness), he appeals to blue collar types (another weakness), has a son that's going to Iraq (personalizes the issue), he's charismatic and he's a damn good attack dog (who hasn't heard his attack on Giuliani).
mPOAKXBi9Pw
Mr. Peabody
08-23-2008, 03:59 PM
Some interesting trivia about Cindy McCain, courtesy of Wikipedia.
James Willis "Jim" Hensley (April 12,[2] 1920[3] – June 21, 2000) was an American businessman in the liquor industry, who founded Hensley & Co., headquartered in Phoenix, Arizona and one of the largest Anheuser-Busch beer distributorships in the nation. One of Arizona's richest men at the time of his death, he was the father of Cindy Hensley McCain and the father-in-law of United States Senator and 2000 and 2008 presidential candidate John McCain.
Early life, military service and family
Hensley was born in San Antonio, Texas[3]
So, John McCain's deceased father-in-law was born in San Antonio. I don't exactly know why I found that interesting, but I did.
xrayzebra
08-23-2008, 04:36 PM
Me! And a damn good choice.
It said insert your own......so I did.
Mr. Peabody
08-23-2008, 06:01 PM
Me! And a damn good choice.
Well....you would make McCain appear younger, so that's a benefit to the ticket.
ray, this post should have been in blue
xrayzebra
08-24-2008, 11:11 AM
Well after The Messiah's gaff yesterday, Biden as next President and Biden's gaff: Barack America, I wouldn't be such a bad choice.
Mr. Peabody
08-24-2008, 11:27 AM
Well after The Messiah's gaff yesterday, Biden as next President and Biden's gaff: Barack America, I wouldn't be such a bad choice.
Yeah, it was such a horrible gaffe. How can the campaign ever recover? I am now convinced that they can't.
McCain '08.
Mr. Peabody
08-24-2008, 11:29 AM
Well after The Messiah's gaff yesterday, Biden as next President and Biden's gaff: Barack America, I wouldn't be such a bad choice.
Well, you would make Biden appear to be well-spoken, so that would be a benefit.
xrayzebra
08-24-2008, 11:30 AM
Yeah, it was such a horrible gaffe. How can the campaign ever recover? I am now convinced that they can't.
McCain '08.
Naw, it will be okay. McCain didn't do it, so it is just talked about in
passing. Nothing much else will be said about it.
But I am hurt you wouldn't vote for me.....:lol
Mr. Peabody
08-24-2008, 01:11 PM
Naw, it will be okay. McCain didn't do it, so it is just talked about in
passing. Nothing much else will be said about it.
But I am hurt you wouldn't vote for me.....:lol
I don't know ray. You may have some Clinton-esque skeletons in your closet.:lol
McCain-Jabba the Hutt '08
xrayzebra
08-24-2008, 02:05 PM
I don't know ray. You may have some Clinton-esque skeletons in your closet.:lol
Thank you for the compliment. If only......I can dream. A 20 year old.
I am no sure I could handle "it".:bking:lol
JoeChalupa
08-25-2008, 11:14 AM
I don't think he'll go with Romney now. I think he'll go with Gov. Tim Pawlenty for the common man feel.
smeagol
08-25-2008, 02:22 PM
Romney, because of the polls
xrayzebra
08-25-2008, 02:49 PM
I have a really sincere question. Does it really matter who he picks. It really doesn't matter who The Messiah picked, cause like old VP Garner said. Being VP is like a bucket of warm spit. Who really cares.
Mr. Peabody
08-25-2008, 03:04 PM
I have a really sincere question. Does it really matter who he picks. It really doesn't matter who The Messiah picked, cause like old VP Garner said. Being VP is like a bucket of warm spit. Who really cares.
I think it could matter. If McCain gets Powell or a woman on his ticket, that could really undercut the notion of a history-making ticket on the Democratic side. Plus, a woman on the ticket may be just enough to convince disgruntled Hiallry supporters to back McCain. Having Powell on the ticket would insulate McCain from any allegations of racism and may take some of the Black vote from Obama.
JoeChalupa
08-25-2008, 03:24 PM
I have a really sincere question. Does it really matter who he picks. It really doesn't matter who The Messiah picked, cause like old VP Garner said. Being VP is like a bucket of warm spit. Who really cares.
That was before King George picked Dick Cheney to run things and no VP in history has had more power than Cheney. King George has made the VP a very important position.
clubalien
08-25-2008, 08:18 PM
Man I don't envy McCain's position at this point. Obama probably picked the strongest VP candidate in the field and I don't see a way that McCain can match it with a relatively weak group of potential running mates.
Guys like Pawlenty and Jindal would certainly be fresh, but I don't think they're well enough known on the national stage. Virtually no one has talked about Huckabee since he dropped out and some of his more bold ideas would surely draw criticism in the general election campaign....though I admittedly like his genuine approach.
I guess the guy to go with is Romney....bleh. I specifically targeted Romney in the primary campaign as someone I would NOT vote for. He lacked the genuine appeal and didn't really have a substantive talking point....except to say that he made money and to criticize everyone else.
It'll probably be Romney, but I didn't vote for him out of principle...I went with Huckabee.
better ticket if biden was on top
obamba even introduced biden as president so he thought biden should be pres over hmself too:lol
PixelPusher
08-25-2008, 08:45 PM
I have a really sincere question. Does it really matter who he picks. It really doesn't matter who The Messiah picked, cause like old VP Garner said. Being VP is like a bucket of warm spit. Who really cares.
I think it could matter. If McCain gets Powell or a woman on his ticket, that could really undercut the notion of a history-making ticket on the Democratic side. Plus, a woman on the ticket may be just enough to convince disgruntled Hiallry supporters to back McCain. Having Powell on the ticket would insulate McCain from any allegations of racism and may take some of the Black vote from Obama.
Cheney's expansion of VP powers is limited to serving alongside a President who gives him the leeway to do it. At the very least, I think VP selections amount to very little in terms of the election. Consider this, the greatest pwnage in VP debate history:
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...which didn't amount to jack squat as the Bush-Quayle ticket went on to win the White House in '88.
I think it could matter. If McCain gets Powell or a woman on his ticket, that could really undercut the notion of a history-making ticket on the Democratic side. Plus, a woman on the ticket may be just enough to convince disgruntled Hiallry supporters to back McCain. Having Powell on the ticket would insulate McCain from any allegations of racism and may take some of the Black vote from Obama.
There's absolutely no chance in hell Powell will join McCain.
Maybe if Hillary was the democratic nominee, but even then it would be a long shot.
Powell is not a politician. Its a shame too considering he's on of the most respected men in America.
Romney would strengthen the Mormon vote for McCain, but might alienate others. His pick is probably more important than Obama's because he is so old. A lot of people are going to seriously look at his VP as a possible guy to fill in just in case McCain has to step down for medical reasons.
Are Americans comfortable with a Mormon president?
I think he should pledge a one term presidency and pick Lieberman.
2centsworth
08-25-2008, 09:26 PM
Lieberman would cost him the Christian vote which is a huge voting block. I would go with an unfamiliar face.
T Park
08-25-2008, 09:46 PM
Lieberman would cost him the Christian vote which is a huge voting block. I would go with an unfamiliar face.
Uh, not really....
PixelPusher
08-25-2008, 10:08 PM
Lieberman would cost him the Christian vote
Why?
clambake
08-26-2008, 12:25 AM
Lieberman would cost him the Christian vote which is a huge voting block. I would go with an unfamiliar face.
a true christian would have donated his piece of shit TV to the CCF.:lmao
ChumpDumper
08-26-2008, 12:28 AM
What if Lieberman became a Jew for Jesus?
clambake
08-26-2008, 12:33 AM
What if Lieberman became a Jew for Jesus?
you could ask god, but he's too busy. drop your question off with st. pete.
ChumpDumper
08-26-2008, 12:37 AM
So Christian Republicans wouldn't vote for McCain if he had a Jewish VP?
Interesting.
clambake
08-26-2008, 12:37 AM
Lieberman would cost him the Christian vote which is a huge voting block. I would go with an unfamiliar face.
maybe if you threw in some piece of shit jerseys..........and a shitty tv.
rascal
08-26-2008, 05:52 AM
There's absolutely no chance in hell Powell will join McCain.
Maybe if Hillary was the democratic nominee, but even then it would be a long shot.
Powell is not a politician. Its a shame too considering he's on of the most respected men in America.
Romney would strengthen the Mormon vote for McCain, but might alienate others. His pick is probably more important than Obama's because he is so old. A lot of people are going to seriously look at his VP as a possible guy to fill in just in case McCain has to step down for medical reasons.
Are Americans comfortable with a Mormon president?
I think he should pledge a one term presidency and pick Lieberman.
If he picks Lieberman, he will die in office and Lieberman will start WWIII. Thats the worst case putting Lieberman in a position of possibly running this country.
jochhejaam
08-26-2008, 06:32 AM
So Christian Republicans wouldn't vote for McCain if he had a Jewish VP?
Interesting.
I assume you're talking to yourself, because you're the only one who brought up the angle of Christians not voting for Lieberman because he's Jewish. Please keep us updated on this running dialogue you're having with yourself.
Lieberman would be a puzzling choice, he's pro-abortion and more significantly, he's a Democrat, that's enough to turn off a substantial number of Republicans, Christian or not.
I'd vote for McCain/Lieberman, although with strong reservations, McCain/Romney would be a much better ticket.
ChumpDumper
08-26-2008, 10:09 AM
I assume you're talking to yourself, because you're the only one who brought up the angle of Christians not voting for Lieberman because he's Jewish. Please keep us updated on this running dialogue you're having with yourself.
Lieberman would cost him the Christian vote which is a huge voting block. I would go with an unfamiliar face.
Please try to keep up with the conversation.
Or just fuck yourself, dumbass. Your denial doens't mean 2cent did post it.
Are you saying any pro-choice VP candidate will lose the support of Christians for a pro-life presidential candidate? Christians are as stupid as Hillary Clinton supporters.
I assume you're talking to yourself, because you're the only one who brought up the angle of Christians not voting for Lieberman because he's Jewish. Please keep us updated on this running dialogue you're having with yourself.
Lieberman would be a puzzling choice, he's pro-abortion and more significantly, he's a Democrat, that's enough to turn off a substantial number of Republicans, Christian or not.
I'd vote for McCain/Lieberman, although with strong reservations, McCain/Romney would be a much better ticket.
Trust me, Evangelicals equate Mormons with a cult. They respect Jews; after all they own the original covenant with God. Romney finished WAY down in the bible belt for a reason. I was raised Catholic, and now attend a relatively charismatic protestant church. Catholics see Mormons as just another non-Catholic denomination; protestants see it very differently Romney would alienate Christians more than Lieberman, and, yes, Chump, specifically BECAUSE he is Mormon.
I think McCain will pick Kay Bailey.
Anti.Hero
08-26-2008, 10:25 AM
Ron Paul!
JoeChalupa
08-26-2008, 10:36 AM
I still say he'll go with Pawlenty.
ChumpDumper
08-26-2008, 10:39 AM
Trust me, Evangelicals equate Mormons with a cult. They respect Jews; after all they own the original covenant with God. Romney finished WAY down in the bible belt for a reason. I was raised Catholic, and now attend a relatively charismatic protestant church. Catholics see Mormons as just another non-Catholic denomination; protestants see it very differently Romney would alienate Christians more than Lieberman, and, yes, Chump, specifically BECAUSE he is Mormon.Damn, they're stupid.
Damn, they're stupid.
I would still vote McCain/Romney, however, it does give me pause when the leadership of the Mormon Temple, by excommunicating one of its members, can deny that person entry to heaven. If Romney is a true-blue Mormon believer, that would mean other people hold sway to his eternal salvation (in his own view).
clambake
08-26-2008, 11:07 AM
I would still vote McCain/Romney, however, it does give me pause when the leadership of the Mormon Temple, by excommunicating one of its members, can deny that person entry to heaven. If Romney is a true-blue Mormon believer, that would mean other people hold sway to his eternal salvation (in his own view).
do you have any idea how crazy that sounds?
ChumpDumper
08-26-2008, 11:18 AM
Conversely, they can pray you into heaven without your even being Mormon. So you got that going for you.
do you have any idea how crazy that sounds?
People believe what they believe; and they act on those beliefs. I guess y'all don't remember how big of a deal it was for a Catholic to run for President? People thought the Pope would run the country.
Again, I've said I'm voting McCain/Romney if it comes to that; I just KNOW that there are quite a few people who will stay home.
jochhejaam
08-26-2008, 09:00 PM
Please try to keep up with the conversation.
Actually (to the surprise of no one) you need to keep up; here are the quotes;
Lieberman would cost him the Christian vote which is a huge voting block. I would go with an unfamiliar face.
So Christian Republicans wouldn't vote for McCain if he had a Jewish VP?
Interesting.
Now I’ll break it down for you junior;
1. 2cents said Lieberman would cost McCain the Christian vote with no inference whatsoever that it was because he’s Jewish (try because he’s pro-abortion), and rightly so because Christian Republicans are certainly not known as being anti-Semitic.
2 ChumpDumper, responding via Non sequitur, finds it interesting that 2cents thinks Christian Republicans will slight McCain because his VP is <gasp!> JEWISH!
It’s absurd for you to suggest that I (or anyone else) should be “keeping up” with such extreme disconnect.
Christians not voting for Lieberman, because he’s Jewish, is your intimation, and yours alone. So again, go ahead and finish the conversation you started with yourself.
Or just fuck yourself, dumbass.
Another ChumpDumper internet meltdown on display . :lol
JoeChalupa
08-26-2008, 10:00 PM
McCain doesn't even like to talk about his religion so I don't think it is an issue on his part but more for party's sake.
Supergirl
08-26-2008, 10:12 PM
Im gonna say Romney. Very well spoken, pretty slick, very popular amongst conservatives and very very well accomplished business man who understands the economy very well.
LOL. Republicans hate Romney and I can't wait till he's the VP. Biden's gonna eat him for lunch in the debate. He's just about the weakest person McCain could pick, but then again, McCain is about the weakest presidential candidate the Republicans could have picked.
ChumpDumper
08-26-2008, 10:17 PM
A1. 2cents said Lieberman would cost McCain the Christian vote with no inference whatsoever that it was because he’s Jewish (try because he’s pro-abortion), and rightly so because Christian Republicans are certainly not known as being anti-Semitic.
Are you saying any pro-choice VP candidate will lose the support of Christians for a pro-life presidential candidate? Christians are as stupid as Hillary Clinton supporters.I will include you in the former group.
JoeChalupa
08-26-2008, 10:20 PM
LOL. Republicans hate Romney and I can't wait till he's the VP. Biden's gonna eat him for lunch in the debate. He's just about the weakest person McCain could pick, but then again, McCain is about the weakest presidential candidate the Republicans could have picked.
I concur. I don't see McCain picking Romney. Romney is much more presidential sounding and looking than McCain could ever dream of. I think he'd over shadow McCain.
2centsworth
08-26-2008, 10:30 PM
I will include you in the former group.
you're nothing more than a troll, too bad.
Nbadan
08-26-2008, 10:44 PM
you're nothing more than a troll, too bad.
Can't believe I'm agreeing with 2cent....rarely Chumpy can be objective, but lately he's really been very.....well, trollish...
Ocotillo
08-27-2008, 06:48 PM
If you want to get the jump on the press on McCain's running mate you can sign up:
http://www.needlenose.com/i/fubar/mccainveep.jpg
It will be Ridge.
Nbadan
08-27-2008, 11:03 PM
or Hutch!
http://dlisted.com/files/caption0827.jpg
jochhejaam
08-28-2008, 05:42 AM
No Joe for VP, but possibly McCain's Sec of State.
By Robert Novak - Aug 28th, 2008
WASHINGTON, D.C. -- Reports of strong support within John McCain's presidential campaign for Independent Democratic Sen. Joseph Lieberman as the Republican candidate for vice president are not a fairy tale. Influential McCain backers, plus McCain himself, would pick the pro-choice liberal from Connecticut if they thought they could get away with it.
But they can't get away with it -- and this has been made clear to McCain by none other than Joe Lieberman himself.
Lieberman surely doesn't know that much about Republican politics, but he has close Republican friends. One of them prevailed on Lieberman to tell McCain that a McCain-Lieberman ticket would be a disaster for all concerned, and especially for the GOP.
Actually, Lieberman is a heroic figure among Republicans for having risked his Senate seat to support President George W. Bush's war policy. But aside from the war, he votes the straight liberal line, including pro-choice on abortion. Lieberman's Republican friend told him that the Republicans would leave Minnesota in a state of disarray with a McCain-Lieberman ticket, alienating social conservatives who now make up the core of Republican voters.
At the heart of the desire for Lieberman as running mate is a basic strategic disagreement between the Bush and McCain high commands.
McCain's top strategists argue that the Bush coalition that won the last two presidential elections is dead and must be replaced by a new one that extends to the left, as Lieberman would.
Bush strategists disagree, asserting that McCain is getting around 90 percent of the old Bush vote and can win the election with a few moderates added in.
The Republican operative who urged Lieberman to dissuade McCain from picking him believes that there is still a very useful role for the maverick Democrat in this campaign: as McCain's secretary of state. <Good move, and announce it early; McCain, crossing the aisle, becomes the true Uniter!> While an announcement in St. Paul of Lieberman as vice president would bring groans from the assembled Republicans, placing him at the State Department would evoke a standing ovation.
At this writing, nobody knows McCain's choice. He is keeping the selection process secret, and his closest aides are in the dark. Could he still name Lieberman after being told by Lieberman himself that it is not a good idea? Nobody absolutely rules it out.
Selecting a vice presidential nominee from the opposite party has not fared well, partly because the two most prominent such selections quickly succeeded to a vacant presidency.
In 1864, Republican President Abraham Lincoln picked a pro-Union Democrat, Andrew Johnson, as his running mate. Johnson clashed continuously with the Republican Congress and became the first president to be impeached. In 1840, Whig President William Henry Harrison selected Democrat John Tyler for vice president. Tyler became president upon Harrison's death in 1841. Tyler found himself surrounded by old political enemies in a Whig Cabinet.
Those problems might be less serious for Lieberman should he quickly succeed to the presidency, however. He is on intimate terms with the McCain inner circle, especially Republican Sen. Lindsey Graham of South Carolina.
Still, Republicans assembling in St. Paul have their fingers crossed that McCain will not press his luck by naming Lieberman as his running mate.
http://www.creators.com/opinion/robert-novak/avoiding-a-lieberman-disaster.html
Supergirl
08-28-2008, 07:43 AM
I wouldn't say he brings nothing. He was born in Pennsylvania (swing state), he's Catholic (swing vote), he's older (Obama dominates younger voters, but lags with older voters), he's a foreign policy expert (an alleged Obama weakness), he appeals to blue collar types (another weakness), has a son that's going to Iraq (personalizes the issue), he's charismatic and he's a damn good attack dog (who hasn't heard his attack on Giuliani).
mPOAKXBi9Pw
All very true. He's also "oozes Catholicism" (heard that phrase on NPR last night) which is good to woo working class Catholics...
implacable44
08-28-2008, 10:44 AM
LOL. Republicans hate Romney and I can't wait till he's the VP. Biden's gonna eat him for lunch in the debate. He's just about the weakest person McCain could pick, but then again, McCain is about the weakest presidential candidate the Republicans could have picked.
That might be the dumbest comment I have ever read. Romeny is the weakest person ? Biden will eat him for lunch in a debate? That garbage is even more ridiculous that the outlandish and false statements about the Mormon religion on here -and almost as silly as that orange pant suit Hillary wore - but nowhere near as goofy as that Greek temple the DNC built for ObMARX.
2centsworth
08-28-2008, 10:44 AM
? you accused ChumpDumper of being a troll ?
that's worse than republicans saying Obama wasn't black enough to win over African Americans :lmao
look bitch, go back to where all the stupid people hang out. Your Ahole remarks show you're an idiot and don't like Mexicans.
signed, CD
implacable44
08-28-2008, 10:50 AM
look bitch, go back to where all the stupid people hang out. Your Ahole remarks show you're an idiot and don't like Mexicans.
Legal or Illegal ones?
signed, CD
smartest move will be to pick that hottie from alaska
http://askpang.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/sabine5.jpg
ChumpDumper
08-28-2008, 11:01 AM
you're nothing more than a troll, too bad.Sorry I agree with your take. Too bad it means anti-abortion Christians are that stupid.
JoeChalupa
08-28-2008, 01:31 PM
We'll know by 10am tomorrow. Who will break the news!! Could it really be Kay Bailey?
nah, I still say it is Pawlenty. Could I be wrong?
JoeChalupa
08-28-2008, 03:43 PM
well come on all you neocons and compassionate conservatives, get excited.
AFBlue
08-28-2008, 04:38 PM
It'll probably be leaked late tonight and officially announced tomorrow...very smart play, because I expect the speech by Obama tonight to be HUGE.
Apparently Pawlenty cancelled a couple meetings at the last minute, so that could be a clue.
Could it be Pawlenty?
JoeChalupa
08-28-2008, 05:19 PM
It'll probably be leaked late tonight and officially announced tomorrow...very smart play, because I expect the speech by Obama tonight to be HUGE.
Apparently Pawlenty cancelled a couple meetings at the last minute, so that could be a clue.
Could it be Pawlenty?
I find him to be kind of boring though so I agree with Joe Scarborough.
2centsworth
08-28-2008, 05:48 PM
I find him to be kind of boring though so I agree with Joe Scarborough.
great criteria, boring. All nominees should be fun and good looking.:lol
Mr. Body
08-28-2008, 06:52 PM
Trust me, Evangelicals equate Mormons with a cult. They respect Jews; after all they own the original covenant with God. Romney finished WAY down in the bible belt for a reason. I was raised Catholic, and now attend a relatively charismatic protestant church. Catholics see Mormons as just another non-Catholic denomination; protestants see it very differently Romney would alienate Christians more than Lieberman, and, yes, Chump, specifically BECAUSE he is Mormon.
This is true.
Except for the Evangelicals for Jews. They believe the Jews have to mass-convert to Christianity in Israel in order for the end-times/rapture to happen. No lie.
Mr. Body
08-28-2008, 06:56 PM
This is a crucial pick for McCain, despite lukewarm feelings surrounding his choice, for two reasons:
1) McCain's age. Hopefully not, but he could be incapacitated in office.
2) McCain has claimed to be running for one term. VPs are often audition slots and 4-yrs is a quick turnaround.
His VP stands a much higher chance of getting into the top office than usual, if McCain wins. Few of his choices seems ready for the office at this point, and Pawlenty appears downright lightweight. That Alaskan hottie Sarah Palin barely has experience at all.
Wild Cobra
08-28-2008, 07:22 PM
That Alaskan hottie Sarah Palin barely has experience at all.
Well, she has tons more experience than Nobama.
from wiki: Sarah Palin (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarah_Palin):
Pre-gubernatorial political experience
Palin served two terms on the Wasilla, Alaska City Council from 1992 to 1996. In 1996, she challenged the incumbent mayor, criticizing wasteful spending and high taxes. The ex-mayor and sheriff tried to organize a recall campaign, but failed. Palin kept her campaign promises, reducing her own salary, as well as reducing property taxes 60%. She ran for reelection against the former mayor in 1999, winning by an even larger margin. Palin was also elected president of the Alaska Conference of Mayors.
In 2002, Palin made an unsuccessful bid for Lieutenant Governor, coming in second to Loren Leman in a four-way race. After Frank Murkowski became governor (resigning his long-held U.S. Senate seat in mid-term), Palin interviewed to be his possible successor, but Murkowski appointed his daughter, then-Alaska State Representative Lisa Murkowski.
Then-Governor Murkowski appointed Palin Ethics Commissioner of the Alaska Oil and Gas Conservation Commission, where she served from 2003 to 2004 -- until resigning in protest over what she called the "lack of ethics" of fellow Alaskan Republican leaders, who ignored her whistleblowing complaints of legal violations and conflicts of interest. After she resigned, she exposed the state Republican party's chairman, Randy Ruedrich, one of her fellow Oil & Gas commissioners (who was accused of doing work for the party on public time, and supplying a lobbyist with a sensitive e-mail). Palin filed formal complaints against both Ruedrich and former Alaska Attorney General Gregg Renkes, who both resigned; Ruedrich paid a record $12,000 fine.
In 2006, Palin, running on a clean-government campaign, executed an upset victory over then-Gov. Murkowski in the Republican gubernatorial primary. Despite the lack of support from party leaders and being outspent by her Democratic opponent, she went on to win the general election in November 2006, defeating former Governor Tony Knowles. Palin said in 2006 that education, public safety, and transportation would be three cornerstones of her administration.
When elected, Palin became the youngest governor in Alaskan history (42 years old upon taking office), and the first woman to be Alaska's governor. Palin was also the first Alaskan governor born after Alaska achieved U.S. statehood. She was also the first Alaskan governor not to be inaugurated in Juneau, instead choosing to hold her inauguration ceremony in Fairbanks. She took office on December 4, 2006.
Highlights of Governor Palin's tenure include a successful push for an ethics bill, and also shelving pork-barrel projects supported by fellow Republicans. Palin successfully killed the Bridge to Nowhere project that had become a nationwide symbol of wasteful earmark spending. "Alaska needs to be self-sufficient, she says, instead of relying heavily on 'federal dollars,' as the state does today."
She has challenged the state's Republican leaders, helping to launch a campaign by Lieutenant Governor Sean Parnell to unseat U.S. Congressman Don Young and publicly challenging Senator Ted Stevens to come clean about the federal investigation into his financial dealings. Palin supports holding occasional legislative sessions outside the state capital, and municipal revenue sharing to help local governments.
Wild Cobra
08-28-2008, 07:32 PM
Here's something you libtards might respect about Palin:
Palin's first veto was used to block legislation that would have barred the state from granting benefits to gay state employees and their partners. In effect, her veto granted State of Alaska benefits to same-sex couples. The veto occurred after Palin consulted with Alaska's attorney general on the constitutionality of the legislation.
Mr. Body
08-28-2008, 10:16 PM
Palin hasn't been governor for even two years. Before that she was the mayor of Wasilla, Alaska, all of 5,469 people. Whatever may come of the alleged ethics violation, she seems to be a decent governor, but she simply is not seasoned for the role of Veep. Keep it in your pants.
Mr. Body
08-28-2008, 10:18 PM
Palin's first veto was used to block legislation that would have barred the state from granting benefits to gay state employees and their partners. In effect, her veto granted State of Alaska benefits to same-sex couples. The veto occurred after Palin consulted with Alaska's attorney general on the constitutionality of the legislation.
Does she want a cookie?
T Park
08-28-2008, 10:30 PM
Palin hasn't been governor for even two years. Before that she was the mayor of Wasilla, Alaska, all of 5,469 people. Whatever may come of the alleged ethics violation, she seems to be a decent governor, but she simply is not seasoned for the role of Veep. Keep it in your pants.
Yeah and Barack Obama has given years nad years of service...
Wild Cobra
08-28-2008, 10:40 PM
Palin hasn't been governor for even two years. Before that she was the mayor of Wasilla, Alaska, all of 5,469 people. Whatever may come of the alleged ethics violation, she seems to be a decent governor, but she simply is not seasoned for the role of Veep. Keep it in your pants.
OMG...
She's at least holding an executive position. She has a solid record of vots and actions.
How can anyone think Obama is more qualified than she is? Are you a sexist?
What has Obama done?
Mr. Peabody
08-29-2008, 12:02 AM
OMG...
She's at least holding an executive position. She has a solid record of vots and actions.
How can anyone think Obama is more qualified than she is? Are you a sexist?
What has Obama done?
Well, under this theory former mayor Ed Garza is even more qualified than Palin (longer term as mayor, much larger city).
So...Garza>Palin>Obama?
Ed Garza 2012
Mr. Peabody
08-29-2008, 12:16 AM
Pawlenty was surging on Intrade today (up 40+ points). We'll see if the money matches the pick.
Das Texan
08-29-2008, 01:53 AM
If its Romney I'm going to fucking dance in the streets! Dreams do come true baby!
Mr. Body
08-29-2008, 02:27 AM
OMG...
She's at least holding an executive position. She has a solid record of vots and actions.
How can anyone think Obama is more qualified than she is? Are you a sexist?
What has Obama done?
She hasn't done jack shit, dude. I wouldn't want some podunk mayor, 1 1/2 year gov of an underpopulated state one breath away from the president. Pawlenty ain't much better.
whottt
08-29-2008, 03:00 AM
Leiberman is the smart choice...it'll make McCain's Maverick rep sound like more than just bullshit....I doubt he does it though.
Ultimately I don't think it matters who McCain picks...he's much more likeable than Bush, his running mate will be more likeable than Cheney, and those guys were good enough to win last time against a traitor, and now the Democrats have brilliantly nominated a guy named Hussein.
Insert stupid "it doesn't matter what his name is whottt" comment right here....and then kill the messenger. Sure...Hussein doesn't matter, just like Kerry's anti-war past didn't matter...it's just that Bush was so damn likeable, and charismatic.
JoeChalupa
08-29-2008, 07:30 AM
I think it is a risky move by McCain to pick Gov. Palin as his VP. If he really thinks that just by picking a woman for his VP that he'll the Hillary vote he's sadly mistaken. Women are not that shallow not to see through it.
Pawlenty is out and so is Romney so my prediction was wrong. It does happen a few times a year.
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y29/clintsquint/mpb.jpg
JoeChalupa
08-29-2008, 07:36 AM
great criteria, boring. All nominees should be fun and good looking.:lol
Hey, I'm just calling it like I see it and apparently the McCain campaign saw it as well. :lol
Mr. Body
08-29-2008, 08:26 AM
Tons of chatter that it is, in fact, Sarah Palin.
That's a bit crazy. McCain's really chopping at the ball here.
florige
08-29-2008, 08:31 AM
Tons of chatter that it is, in fact, Sarah Palin.
That's a bit crazy. McCain's really chopping at the ball here.
That would be a shocker....
I think it is a risky move by McCain to pick Gov. Palin as his VP. If he really thinks that just by picking a woman for his VP that he'll the Hillary vote he's sadly mistaken. Women are not that shallow not to see through it.
Pawlenty is out and so is Romney so my prediction was wrong. It does happen a few times a year.
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y29/clintsquint/mpb.jpg
Did you read her bio/going after her OWN party -clening it up, whistleblowing...he'll make the argument that they are cut from the same cloth: "TWO MAVERICKS" - can see it now.
Also, to have risen so high, so fast, I'm betting she's got charisma and charm. If this is the choice, it could fill several gaps for McCain, and not just "a Woman".
Mr. Body
08-29-2008, 08:44 AM
Ok, false alarm. Andrea Mitchell is reporting she's still in Alaska.
It looks like Lieberman.
...?
Ocotillo
08-29-2008, 08:45 AM
Did you read her bio/going after her OWN party -clening it up, whistleblowing...he'll make the argument that they are cut from the same cloth: "TWO MAVERICKS" - can see it now.
Also, to have risen so high, so fast, I'm betting she's got charisma and charm. If this is the choice, it could fill several gaps for McCain, and not just "a Woman".
eh, she's mired in her own ethical scandal. Bring her on.
Mr. Body
08-29-2008, 08:49 AM
Did you read her bio/going after her OWN party -clening it up, whistleblowing...he'll make the argument that they are cut from the same cloth: "TWO MAVERICKS" - can see it now.
Also, to have risen so high, so fast, I'm betting she's got charisma and charm. If this is the choice, it could fill several gaps for McCain, and not just "a Woman".
My guess is rather she has a couple gaps McCain wouldn't mind filling.
AFBlue
08-29-2008, 08:49 AM
I love this....MSM is just getting jerked around like crazy and they are just pissed.
No one knows what the hell is going on and absolutely no one is making a concerted effort to discuss Obama's speech last night.
Brilliant plan.
Ok, false alarm. Andrea Mitchell is reporting she's still in Alaska.
It looks like Lieberman.
...?
CNBC is saying Palin, for what it's worth.
http://www.cnbc.com/id/26454655
Don't know if it's been discussed, but Meg Whitman's name has been thrown out there as well.
Mr. Peabody
08-29-2008, 08:55 AM
Ok, false alarm. Andrea Mitchell is reporting she's still in Alaska.
It looks like Lieberman.
...?
That's odd. I was watching CNBC just after you posted this and they were reporting that it was Palin.
Mr. Peabody
08-29-2008, 09:05 AM
MSNBC is back to speculating that it is Palin.
I love this....MSM is just getting jerked around like crazy and they are just pissed.
No one knows what the hell is going on and absolutely no one is making a concerted effort to discuss Obama's speech last night.
Brilliant plan.
Oh, Gee!!
08-29-2008, 09:09 AM
Jeb Bush
Mr. Body
08-29-2008, 09:10 AM
I love this....MSM is just getting jerked around like crazy and they are just pissed.
No one knows what the hell is going on and absolutely no one is making a concerted effort to discuss Obama's speech last night.
Brilliant plan.
It's not big news. Everybody knew Obama was whip-smart, eloquent, loved by his party, and determined to make the country better.
JoeChalupa
08-29-2008, 09:27 AM
I love this....MSM is just getting jerked around like crazy and they are just pissed.
No one knows what the hell is going on and absolutely no one is making a concerted effort to discuss Obama's speech last night.
Brilliant plan.
I concur. Now we'll have to see how his pick of Palin for VP pans out.
florige
08-29-2008, 09:27 AM
Jeb Bush
Coming in from Alaska??:lol
florige
08-29-2008, 09:30 AM
Man, Palin looks pretty freakin nice too!
Anti.Hero
08-29-2008, 09:33 AM
She's kinda got that hot schoolteacher thing going on from a video I just watched on CNBC haha
JoeChalupa
08-29-2008, 09:42 AM
It is official. It is Palin.
Mr. Body
08-29-2008, 10:32 AM
It's crazy but it might just work!
T Park
08-29-2008, 10:36 AM
eh, she's mired in her own ethical scandal. Bring her on.
What, suing the federal government over polar bears being on the endangered species list inhibiting the ability to drill for oil?
Wild Cobra
08-29-2008, 12:57 PM
She hasn't done jack shit, dude. I wouldn't want some podunk mayor, 1 1/2 year gov of an underpopulated state one breath away from the president. Pawlenty ain't much better.
Really? You don't want someone who actually associates with real people rather than someone who only knows other elitsists?
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