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dallaskd
08-26-2008, 09:31 PM
http://mmamania.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/ufc88_poster.jpg


Chuck Liddell vs. Rashad Evans
Rich Franklin vs. Matt Hamill
Karo Parisyan vs. Yoshiyuki Yoshida
Dan Henderson vs. Rousimar Palhares
Martin Kampmann vs. Nate Marquardt

Thiago Tavares vs. Kurt Pellegrino
Tim Boetsch vs. Michael Patt
Dong Hyun Kim vs. Matt Brown
Roan Carneiro vs. Ryo Chonan
Jason Lambert vs. Jason MacDonald

dallaskd
08-26-2008, 09:34 PM
Chuck Liddell vs. Rashad Evans
Rich Franklin vs. Matt Hamill
Karo Parisyan vs. Yoshiyuki Yoshida
Dan Henderson vs. Rousimar Palhares
Martin Kampmann vs. Nate Marquardt

Thiago Tavares vs. Kurt Pellegrino
Tim Boetsch vs. Michael Patt
Dong Hyun Kim vs. Matt Brown
Roan Carneiro vs. Ryo Chonan
Jason Lambert vs. Jason MacDonald

Evan
08-26-2008, 09:41 PM
Chuck Liddell vs. Rashad Evans
Rich Franklin vs. Matt Hamill
Karo Parisyan vs. Yoshiyuki Yoshida
Dan Henderson vs. Rousimar Palhares
Martin Kampmann vs. Nate Marquardt

Thiago Tavares vs. Kurt Pellegrino
Tim Boetsch vs. Michael Patt
Dong Hyun Kim vs. Matt Brown
Roan Carneiro vs. Ryo Chonan
Jason Lambert vs. Jason MacDonald

dallaskd
08-26-2008, 09:43 PM
Kampmann vs. Marquardt is going to be a war. :ihit

djohn14
08-26-2008, 09:59 PM
Chuck Liddell vs. Rashad Evans
Rich Franklin vs. Matt Hamill
Karo Parisyan vs. Yoshiyuki Yoshida
Dan Henderson vs. Rousimar Palhares --I just see it
Martin Kampmann vs. Nate Marquardt--This was an iffy

Thiago Tavares vs. Kurt Pellegrino
Tim Boetsch vs. Michael Patt
Dong Hyun Kim vs. Matt Brown
Roan Carneiro vs. Ryo Chonan--I dont know, but Roan lets me down a lot!
Jason Lambert vs. Jason MacDonald

polandprzem
08-27-2008, 07:01 AM
Fucking great card
I've seen just Rashads (highlights I think :) )
But

Chuck Liddell vs. Rashad Evans
Rich Franklin vs. Matt Hamill
Karo Parisyan vs. Yoshiyuki Yoshida
Dan Henderson vs. Rousimar Palhares
Martin Kampmann vs. Nate Marquardt ???

Evan
08-27-2008, 07:47 AM
Its about time Karo goes on a tear and does something consistently. I'm about sick of seeing him get close to a title shot and blow it.

DBryant88
08-27-2008, 08:16 AM
Chuck Liddell vs. Rashad Evans
Rich Franklin vs. Matt Hamill
Karo Parisyan vs. Yoshiyuki Yoshida
Dan Henderson vs. Rousimar Palhares
Martin Kampmann vs. Nate Marquardt

Thiago Tavares vs. Kurt Pellegrino
Tim Boetsch vs. Michael Patt
Dong Hyun Kim vs. Matt Brown
Roan Carneiro vs. Ryo Chonan
Jason Lambert vs. Jason MacDonald

desflood
08-27-2008, 09:05 AM
Chuck Liddell vs. Rashad Evans
Rich Franklin vs. Matt Hamill
Karo Parisyan vs. Yoshiyuki Yoshida
Dan Henderson vs. Rousimar Palhares
Martin Kampmann vs. Nate Marquardt

Thiago Tavares vs. Kurt Pellegrino (but I'll be cheering for Batman)
Tim Boetsch vs. Michael Patt
Dong Hyun Kim vs. Matt Brown
Roan Carneiro vs. Ryo Chonan
Jason Lambert vs. Jason MacDonald

sa_butta
08-27-2008, 09:07 AM
Chuck Liddell vs. Rashad Evans
Rich Franklin vs. Matt Hamill
Karo Parisyan vs. Yoshiyuki Yoshida
Dan Henderson vs. Rousimar Palhares
Martin Kampmann vs. Nate Marquardt

Thiago Tavares vs. Kurt Pellegrino
Tim Boetsch vs. Michael Patt
Dong Hyun Kim vs. Matt Brown
Roan Carneiro vs. Ryo Chonan
Jason Lambert vs. Jason MacDonald

LEONARD
08-27-2008, 11:15 AM
No love for Yoshida...Karo is in trouble...

Evan
08-27-2008, 12:00 PM
No love for Yoshida...Karo is in trouble...

$10

dbreiden83080
08-27-2008, 03:42 PM
Matt Hamill, getting no love here. The Main event should be a cakewalk for Chuck. Rashad is like a smaller version of Tito Ortiz.

LEONARD
08-28-2008, 05:33 PM
$10

deal

Evan
08-28-2008, 06:00 PM
oh look who decided to join us for some MMA chat...

thank you for taking the time to talk to us.

:rolleyes

dallaskd
09-01-2008, 12:03 PM
bump

dbreiden83080
09-01-2008, 04:34 PM
Chuck Liddell vs. Rashad Evans
Rich Franklin vs. Matt Hamill
Karo Parisyan vs. Yoshiyuki Yoshida
Dan Henderson vs. Rousimar Palhares
Martin Kampmann vs. Nate Marquardt

Pretty good card, still on the fence whether or not i am going to order this one, burnt a mad hole in my pockets of late on these. Have to love Chuck in the main event. Rashad does not impress me at all. He had a draw against Tito in a fight, even though Tito lost a pt for grabbing the fence i still thought Tito won. Tito outstruck him and took him down multiple times. Chuck is a bad matchup for Tito, he KO'd him twice because he could not strike with Chuck or get him down. To me Rashad is a lot like Tito, only smaller. Chuck comes in shape and he will KO Evans, likely in 2 rds.

I see Hammill is the underdog here for his fight with Rich, i think that has a lot to do with Rich's experience. He is not a natural 205 pd fighter. Matt is a big 205 pd fighter, a powerhouse of a wrestler, with a good chin and huge power in his hands, especially his right. Rich has tremendous stand-up and he needs the fight to say there. I don't think he can submit Matt on the bottom and he sure as hell won't be on top of him. One thing that worries me is Matt's gas-tank. He tired a bit late in the highway robbery, horse-shit decision loss to Bisping. I see Matt, being able to hold his own on the feet and get this down, enough to win a decision. Should be a good fight but i'll take Matt for the win. Love Rich though and won't be upset if he takes it.

djohn14
09-01-2008, 04:53 PM
Rashad is a lot like Tito. He dosent have the explosiveness Tito once did, but I think Rashad is a better wrestler and will have a better chance of getting Chuck down. Do I think Rashad is gonna win? NO!...But it wont be a cakewalk. I dont care how much Hamill has improved and how much Rich has lost, I see no way Rich loses. IF IF IF Rich loses it would be by decision. Dan..you better not take Palhares lightly because he will take your arm and break it. Palhares, sub, round 1, after Hendo nearly KOs him.

dbreiden83080
09-01-2008, 05:30 PM
Rashad is a lot like Tito. He dosent have the explosiveness Tito once did, but I think Rashad is a better wrestler and will have a better chance of getting Chuck down.

Actually Tito proved he is a better wrestler than Rashad in their fight. He got more takedowns and Rashad can't strike. He looked like shit in that fight with Tito striking. They can play that highlight reel Ko of him vs Sean Salmon all they want, i am not impressed with his strikes. He showed me nothing against Bisping either, who never belonged at 205 in the first place. I do see a cakewalk for Chuck. I see no area whatsoever he threatens Chuck at all.

Evan
09-01-2008, 05:34 PM
NFL kickoff and UFC in one weekend.

I can't handle it

dbreiden83080
09-01-2008, 05:39 PM
^^

Big Cowboy fan

Evan
09-01-2008, 05:42 PM
I love the NFL (Cowboys) far more than MMA if you can believe it. I just don't like talking about football so much.

MMA is a weird hobby of mine.

dbreiden83080
09-01-2008, 05:44 PM
You hearing anything new on the Randy, UFC comeback front??

Evan
09-01-2008, 05:46 PM
rumor has it that we will hear something tomorrow

dbreiden83080
09-01-2008, 06:26 PM
rumor has it that we will hear something tomorrow

If they announce that Randy is back and fighting Brock in Nov, i may just cream in my pants. :p:

Evan
09-01-2008, 06:35 PM
hah

djohn14
09-01-2008, 08:13 PM
I just heard wed know something by this week. I hope its tomorrow. I am a lot like you Evan, except my team is the Rams!

Evan
09-02-2008, 10:39 PM
Dana's UFC 88 Video Blog 9/1/08 (boring as shiznit hollywood crap)
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=OYsrnGaBCrY&feature=user

Dana's UFC 88 Video Blog 9/2/08 (stuff with randy...very good..dana and randy look like friends.... 4:27 on is pure gold)
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=uRnxj3UlnmQ&feature=user

dallaskd
09-02-2008, 10:39 PM
countdown tommorow..

Evan
09-03-2008, 11:42 AM
http://mmamania.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/ufc88_poster.jpg


Chuck Liddell vs. Rashad Evans
Rich Franklin vs. Matt Hamill
Karo Parisyan vs. Yoshiyuki Yoshida
Dan Henderson vs. Rousimar Palhares
Martin Kampmann vs. Nate Marquardt

Thiago Tavares vs. Kurt Pellegrino
Tim Boetsch vs. Michael Patt
Dong Hyun Kim vs. Matt Brown
Roan Carneiro vs. Ryo Chonan
Jason Lambert vs. Jason MacDonald

hey someone send the odds to Kori....looks like we have vbookie money! I would do it but blocked at work.

Which fights? 2 out of this bunch?


Rich Franklin vs. Matt Hamill
Karo Parisyan vs. Yoshiyuki Yoshida
Dan Henderson vs. Rousimar Palhares

desflood
09-03-2008, 11:44 AM
We're going to try streaming this one, see how it works out.

Evan
09-03-2008, 11:48 AM
We're going to try streaming this one, see how it works out.

its ok...Take your time…follow the instructions for updating winamp…and test it out well in advance.

ATRAIN
09-03-2008, 01:33 PM
Chuck Liddell vs. Rashad Evans
Rich Franklin vs. Matt Hamill
Karo Parisyan vs. Yoshiyuki Yoshida
Dan Henderson vs. Rousimar Palhares
Martin Kampmann vs. Nate Marquardt

Thiago Tavares vs. Kurt Pellegrino
Tim Boetsch vs. Michael Patt
Dong Hyun Kim vs. Matt Brown
Roan Carneiro vs. Ryo Chonan
Jason Lambert vs. Jason MacDonald

djohn14
09-03-2008, 03:56 PM
Chuck Liddell vs. Rashad Evans
Rich Franklin vs. Matt Hamill
Karo Parisyan vs. Yoshiyuki Yoshida
Dan Henderson vs. Rousimar Palhares
Martin Kampmann vs. Nate Marquardt

Thiago Tavares vs. Kurt Pellegrino
Tim Boetsch vs. Michael Patt
Dong Hyun Kim vs. Matt Brown
Roan Carneiro vs. Ryo Chonan
Jason Lambert vs. Jason MacDonald

Rashad? Im not counting him out by any means, but why?...how KO, Sub, Dec?

dbreiden83080
09-03-2008, 04:15 PM
I got Rashad winning if they discover Chuck has some sort of Congetinal Heart Defect, moments before he hits the Octagon :p:

dallaskd
09-03-2008, 05:52 PM
hey someone send the odds to Kori....looks like we have vbookie money! I would do it but blocked at work.

Which fights? 2 out of this bunch?


Rich Franklin vs. Matt Hamill
Karo Parisyan vs. Yoshiyuki Yoshida
Dan Henderson vs. Rousimar Palhares

Hamill will bring a very good fight, but come on...Franklin's got it.

djohn14
09-03-2008, 06:03 PM
I agree with Dallas. Hamill is always ready, I just really see no way he beats Franklin...decision is his only hope. Im really interested in seeing Palhares-Heno, and the Karo-Yoshi fight should bring some incredible Judo throws!


Speaking of Judo, check out this vid...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GuigcXvcy1A

dallaskd
09-03-2008, 06:06 PM
Do any of you guys ever find yourself ever feeling sorry for Hamill. I do and im not sure why. He's deaf not retarded. but still...

djohn14
09-03-2008, 07:11 PM
Yeah, I do. Most of the time. I wonder what role his corner men play though. Sign language would just distract you in a match.

desflood
09-04-2008, 09:00 AM
Yeah, I do. Most of the time. I wonder what role his corner men play though. Sign language would just distract you in a match.
He said once that he's glad he can't hear during his fights because it means fewer distractions.

ATRAIN
09-04-2008, 09:15 AM
Rashad? Im not counting him out by any means, but why?...how KO, Sub, Dec?

I just think we are witnessing the decline of Liddell. I think Rashad will win by decision or KO. Chuck throws his hands down too much and if he gets caught by Rashad it will be Rampage revisited.

ATRAIN
09-04-2008, 09:18 AM
He said once that he's glad he can't hear during his fights because it means fewer distractions.

That also means he is alone during the rounds, the corners offer great advice to the fighters (especially if you have a good corner). Who knows maybe if he could hear his corner he would have beat the count (even though I think he did anyways)

desflood
09-04-2008, 10:41 AM
He does read lips, so he can communicate with his corner between rounds.

Evan
09-04-2008, 11:09 AM
I always get a kick out of corners that have 3 or 4 people screaming at the same time…whats the point? Whenever Hackleman and Tito corner they are the lone voice as it should be.

LEONARD
09-04-2008, 12:43 PM
YOSHIDA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
http://www.sherdog.com/videos/recent/Real-Japanese-Cagefighter-Yoshiyuki-Yoshida-1754

LEONARD
09-04-2008, 12:44 PM
Chuck Liddell vs. Rashad Evans
Rich Franklin vs. Matt Hamill :wow
Karo Parisyan vs. Yoshiyuki Yoshida
Dan Henderson vs. Rousimar Palhares
Martin Kampmann vs. Nate Marquardt

Thiago Tavares vs. Kurt Pellegrino
Tim Boetsch vs. Michael Patt
Dong Hyun Kim vs. Matt Brown
Roan Carneiro vs. Ryo Chonan
Jason Lambert vs. Jason MacDonald

desflood
09-04-2008, 01:50 PM
Rich Franklin vs. Matt Hamill :wow
If I was going to pick an upset, that would be the one.

Evan
09-04-2008, 02:31 PM
If I was going to pick an upset, that would be the one.

I agree. I am not sure how much Franklin has left…great fighter…great career but his hands and face have been smashed too many times.His right hand has been broken 3 out of the last 4 fights or maybe just 2 in a row..can't remember. And his nose…who knows how many times. I am sure he has about 3 fights left including this one max.

Hall of famer riding towards the sunset.

I kind of have Cro Cop and Franklin slotted in the same group….and he sad this is there is no hall of fame for Cro Cop to go into.

You know…maybe one day station casinos (the fertitas own them) will have one? 15 20 years down the road?

tlongII
09-04-2008, 03:24 PM
I like this card. Liddell vs Evans is a tossup imo. I'm going to hit that same sports bar I went to and saw whatshisname beat Rampage at.

dallaskd
09-04-2008, 04:16 PM
Matt Hamill has a freakin' HOTTT wife. if you watched the countdown you saw her.

djohn14
09-04-2008, 05:13 PM
Matt Hamill has a freakin' HOTTT wife. if you watched the countdown you saw her.

What?...haha oh thats terrible!

dallaskd
09-04-2008, 05:16 PM
why? he deserves it. In his first marriage it was an overweight deaf woman and they had a hearing child. Now he's banging a sweet broad with his lovely daughter. im happy for the guy. She really cares about him.

djohn14
09-04-2008, 06:08 PM
why? he deserves it. In his first marriage it was an overweight deaf woman and they had a hearing child. Now he's banging a sweet broad with his lovely daughter. im happy for the guy. She really cares about him.

No, I did something stupid and made a hearing joke...now I feel bad.

oligarchy
09-04-2008, 08:50 PM
Chuck Liddell vs. Rashad Evans
Rich Franklin vs. Matt Hamill
Dan Henderson vs. Rousimar Palhares
Martin Kampmann vs. Nate Marquardt
Dong Hyun Kim vs. Matt Brown

Thiago Tavares vs. Kurt Pellegrino
Tim Boetsch vs. Michael Patt
Roan Carneiro vs. Ryo Chonan
Jason Lambert vs. Jason MacDonald

cornbread
09-04-2008, 10:01 PM
Liddell
Franklin
Toquinho
Karo
Marquadt
Tavares
Boetsch
Kim
Chonan
MacDonald

LEONARD
09-05-2008, 01:21 PM
Weigh-ins are streaming live on yahoo sports at 3:00 CT

Previews/Picks
http://mmamania.com/2008/09/05/ufc-88-predictions-preview-and-analysis/
http://mmajunkie.com/news/5213/performifys-picks-for-ufc-88.mma
http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2008/9/5/608172/ufc-88-breakthrough-staff

Liddell articles/video interviews
http://sherdog.com/videos/recent/Fully-Recovered-Liddell-Looking-for-Title-Shot-1753
http://www.mmaweekly.com/absolutenm/templates/dailynews.asp?articleid=7011

Evans article
http://www.mmaweekly.com/absolutenm/templates/dailynews.asp?articleid=6994

Franklin vs Hamill breakdown
http://sherdog.com/news/articles/ufc-88-breakdown-franklin-vs-hamill-14256

Hamill video from local news
http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2008/8/26/601497/matt-hamill-gets-hero-s-se

Hendo article
http://sherdog.com/news/articles/henderson-hopes-for-hollywood-ending-14240

Hendo and Palhares video interviews
http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/09/05/ufc-88-video-dan-henderson-rousimar-palhares-talk-about-upcoming-bout/

Karo “the excuse” Parisyan articles…doesn’t he say this stuff before every fight? Give me Yoshida…
http://mmamania.com/2008/09/02/karo-parisyan-i-have-so-much-at-stake-for-yoshiyuki-yoshida-ufc-88-fight/
http://www.mmaweekly.com/absolutenm/templates/dailynews.asp?articleid=7005&zoneid=13

Karo video interview
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2tmZIUr92t8

Yoshida video…
http://www.sherdog.com/videos/recent/Real-Japanese-Cagefighter-Yoshiyuki-Yoshida-1754

Kampmann articles…really pulling for him…
http://mmamania.com/2008/09/05/martin-kampmann-ready-to-kick-ass-against-nate-marquardt-ufc-88-video/
http://mmajunkie.com/news/5212/martin-kampmann-at-100-percent-for-ufc-88-bout-with-nate-marquardt.mma
http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/09/05/could-martin-kampmann-be-closing-in-on-a-title-shot/

Lambert will be debuting at 185 lbs…watch for flying lose skin…
http://www.mmaweekly.com/absolutenm/templates/dailynews.asp?articleid=7007

Boetsch article
http://www.mmaweekly.com/absolutenm/templates/dailynews.asp?articleid=7009

Dana’s UFC 88 video blog
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYsrnGaBCrY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRnxj3UlnmQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q5Ho9xypKAg

Evan
09-05-2008, 01:58 PM
mmajunkie

Report: Karo Parisyan injured, UFC 88 bout scrapped

its never going to happen for him. His career is cursed.

desflood
09-05-2008, 02:08 PM
I wonder if he's really injured, or if it has something to do with the panic attacks.

LEONARD
09-05-2008, 02:19 PM
Scared to get his ace whooped...

fuck that sucks...bigtime...

desflood
09-05-2008, 02:37 PM
Scared to get his ace whooped...
Nah. He's fought quite the list of names. For all the big talk, he doesn't seem like one to duck a fight.

LEONARD
09-05-2008, 02:57 PM
Yea, but he's been having issues and a loss might be his last in the UFC...

I'm sure it's a legit injury...just sucks...

Evan
09-05-2008, 03:02 PM
Yea, but he's been having issues and a loss might be his last in the UFC...

He knows how the UFC works better than most. He knows better than to back out of a fight this late unless it is completely unavoidable.

Evan
09-05-2008, 04:52 PM
Light Heavyweight.: Chuck Liddell - 204lbs vs. Rashad Evans - 205lbs
Light Heavyweight: Rich Franklin - 204.5 lbs vs. Matt Hamill - 205lbs
Middleweight: Dan Henderson - 185lbs vs. Rousimar Palhares - 184.5lbs
Middleweight: Nate Marquardt - 185lbs vs. Martin Kampmann - 184.5lbs
Lightweight: Thiago Tavares - 155lbs vs. Kurt Pellegrino - 156lbs
Light Heavyweight: Tim Boetsch - 205lbs vs. Mike Patt - 205lbs
Welterweight: Matt Brown - 170lbs vs. Dong Hyun Kim - 170lbs*
Middleweight: Jason Lambert - 185lbs vs. Jason MacDonald - 185lbs
Welterweight: Roan Carneiro - 170lbs vs. Ryo Chonan - 170lbs

*Brown vs. Kim will be first fight on the PPV broadcast.

Evan
09-05-2008, 04:56 PM
Yea, but he's been having issues and a loss might be his last in the UFC...

I'm sure it's a legit injury...just sucks...

For some reason when I read this a second time I am taking this different.

You're saying he has a legit injury but is being over cautious, yes?

LEONARD
09-05-2008, 05:46 PM
You are correct, sir!

Evan
09-05-2008, 06:07 PM
You are correct, sir!

Thats an interesting point of view and if you are right then I wonder if he will ever be able to get his head right again. This game is so mental that such a problem might wreck him forever which I think is what happened to the Crow...such a promising career that was ruined by a weak mental outlook.

If Fedor lost I am not sure it would only bother him for about 1 day. I think that guy can out will a brick.

Cro Cop would be out willed by a flower right now. :depressed

oligarchy
09-05-2008, 06:11 PM
Well, don't you think it's strange that he injures himself last minute? He might own the WEC..

LEONARD
09-05-2008, 06:14 PM
part 4 of Dana's video blog
http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2008/9/5/608275/possible-rampage-vs-wandy

Evan
09-05-2008, 06:15 PM
Well, don't you think it's strange that he injures himself last minute? He might own the WEC..

Agree on both counts but this guy has done so much in his career and is such a professional (in the ring) that I want to give him as much of a benefit of a doubt as possible.

But leonard brings up an interest idea. A true legit injury that he is scared of whereas not too long ago wouldn't have bothered him so much.

Evan
09-05-2008, 06:20 PM
works for me!

Matt Brown versus Dong Hyun Kim moved to UFC 88 main card

I want to see Kim pretty bad.

oligarchy
09-05-2008, 06:29 PM
He ducked Fitch. He may not have been offered that specific fight to turn it down, but to ask specifically for a fight that ISN'T Fitch -- is ducking.

LEONARD
09-05-2008, 06:29 PM
Fuck...I was thinking of a different Kim! Brown is going to get wrecked...changed my pick...lol

I've been eager to see more of Kim and Yoshida...hopefully Yoshida gets a fight in the next month or 2.

oligarchy
09-05-2008, 06:29 PM
You know who I am? You know who I am?

oligarchy
09-05-2008, 06:34 PM
Fuck...I was thinking of a different Kim! Brown is going to get wrecked...changed my pick...lol

I've been eager to see more of Kim and Yoshida...hopefully Yoshida gets a fight in the next month or 2.

Hrm.. I thought it was Do Hyung Kim when I read it. I need to change mine too.. :lol

Evan
09-05-2008, 06:36 PM
Fuck...I was thinking of a different Kim! Brown is going to get wrecked...changed my pick...lol

I've been eager to see more of Kim and Yoshida...hopefully Yoshida gets a fight in the next month or 2.

Hey looked who cussed again!^^^^^^^^^^^^

:clap:clap:clap:clap

Brown will be dismantled like a bag if instant rice.

Evan
09-05-2008, 06:44 PM
part 4 of Dana's video blog
http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2008/9/5/608275/possible-rampage-vs-wandy

whuh?

Evan
09-05-2008, 06:46 PM
"featured movie today will be Scorpion 2"

bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa hahahahahahah

angelbelow
09-06-2008, 01:10 AM
i dont like liddell but i think hes gonna win..

angelbelow
09-06-2008, 01:18 AM
works for me!

Matt Brown versus Dong Hyun Kim moved to UFC 88 main card

I want to see Kim pretty bad.

i agree. should be a fun fight.

LEONARD
09-06-2008, 10:12 AM
pre weigh-in
http://www.combatlifestyle.com/pics/albums/090508ufcbefore/1003.jpg

http://www.combatlifestyle.com/pics/albums/090508ufcbefore/1011.jpg

Please smoke Marquardt so he can go away...
http://www.combatlifestyle.com/pics/albums/090508ufcbefore/1013.jpg

weigh-in

The last man to defeat Anderson Silva (ignoring the DQ with Okami)
http://www.combatlifestyle.com/pics/albums/090508ufcweighins/1007.jpg

http://www.combatlifestyle.com/pics/albums/090508ufcweighins/1011.jpg

http://www.combatlifestyle.com/pics/albums/090508ufcweighins/1013.jpg

Lambert via loose skin choke
http://www.combatlifestyle.com/pics/albums/090508ufcweighins/1015.jpg

Stun Gun
http://www.combatlifestyle.com/pics/albums/090508ufcweighins/1019.jpg

http://www.combatlifestyle.com/pics/albums/090508ufcweighins/1021.jpg

http://www.combatlifestyle.com/pics/albums/090508ufcweighins/1034.jpg

Dirty fighter
http://www.combatlifestyle.com/pics/albums/090508ufcweighins/1038.jpg

Under-rated
http://www.combatlifestyle.com/pics/albums/090508ufcweighins/1042.jpg

Deaf
http://www.combatlifestyle.com/pics/albums/090508ufcweighins/1053.jpg

Dreamy
http://www.combatlifestyle.com/pics/albums/090508ufcweighins/1055.jpg

http://www.combatlifestyle.com/pics/albums/090508ufcweighins/1056.jpg

Jugs
http://www.combatlifestyle.com/pics/albums/090508ufcweighins/1057.jpg

Nice toenails
http://www.combatlifestyle.com/pics/albums/090508ufcweighins/1059.jpg

you too...
http://www.combatlifestyle.com/pics/albums/090508ufcweighins/1060.jpg

In shape?
http://www.combatlifestyle.com/pics/albums/090508ufcweighins/1063.jpg

http://www.combatlifestyle.com/pics/albums/090508ufcweighins/1064.jpg

Evan
09-06-2008, 10:39 AM
awesome stuff leonard....hahahahahahahaha

polandprzem
09-06-2008, 11:13 AM
chuck will go down

desflood
09-06-2008, 11:15 AM
Leonard's all over this today.

I always laugh at Chuck's nails too, but they're nice. It's something he does with his daughter before every fight.

LEONARD
09-06-2008, 12:21 PM
Leonard's all over this today.

I always laugh at Chuck's nails too, but they're nice. It's something he does with his daughter before every fight.

and gay as all hell...

Evan
09-06-2008, 12:29 PM
and gay as all hell...

he has a weird style like tom atencio...I just don't get the weird california thing.

flat rimmed hat...weird plugs in ears...nails painted...

LEONARD
09-06-2008, 12:32 PM
The pros are picking Chuck of course...27/32
http://sherdog.com/news/articles/pros-pick-liddell-vs-evans-14304

Undercard
http://sherdog.com/news/articles/ufc-88-breakdown-the-undercard-14305

All Sherdog content here
http://sherdog.com/news/news/sherdogs-complete-coverage-of-ufc-88-14307

Forrest wants Chuck next...duh...
http://sherdog.com/news/articles/griffin-wants-liddell-next-14306

article about Hamil and Franklin's friendship
http://www.mmaweekly.com/absolutenm/templates/dailynews.asp?articleid=7040

MMAWeekly content here
http://www.mmaweekly.com/absolutenm/templates/dailynews.asp?articleid=7041&zoneid=13

desflood
09-06-2008, 12:40 PM
and gay as all hell...
:lol

You can always pick out a man who doesn't have a daughter.

LEONARD
09-06-2008, 01:13 PM
So does Chuck's daughter paint Hackleman's too? :lol

It's gay as all hell regardless of why...

desflood
09-06-2008, 01:33 PM
Hack might just be gay. I don't know.

Evan
09-06-2008, 01:34 PM
So does Chuck's daughter paint Hackleman's too? :lol

Only if she wants too...he isn't going to do anything that rocks his meal ticket boat! :p:

dallaskd
09-06-2008, 02:24 PM
Rich looks huge.

LEONARD
09-06-2008, 02:42 PM
Rich looks huge.

stop staring at his package...

Evan
09-06-2008, 03:14 PM
Stun Gun looks small

dallaskd
09-06-2008, 03:27 PM
stop staring at his package...

lol, i wasnt but...

Kampmann > Stun Gun

gay...but holy shit

Evan
09-06-2008, 03:55 PM
leonard is looking more and more right


Ryo Chonan updated his blog last night:

"I'm surprised to hear about Yoshida. His opponent, Karo Parisyan, backed out at last minute. Karo said he was in the best shape when I talked to him yesterday. I wonder what happened to him. Yoshida's mom came here to see his fight all way from Japan and he had a hard time dieting for this fight. I'm sorry for him. Charged with a role as the only fighter who represents Japan, I'm going to have a great performance tomorrow."

Translation from SukiMMA

LEONARD
09-06-2008, 03:56 PM
500+ ppv buys?
http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2008/9/6/608669/ufc-88-projected-big-pay-p

Evan
09-06-2008, 07:28 PM
500+ ppv buys?
http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2008/9/6/608669/ufc-88-projected-big-pay-p

I read that earlier...if thats true then I agree with all the grim analysis in write up.

dbreiden83080
09-06-2008, 08:40 PM
Matt Hamill has a freakin' HOTTT wife. if you watched the countdown you saw her.

His Fiance but yeah and then some, i just saw the countdown show and DAMN what a BABE!! Good for Matt. Now he has a win over Bisping ( Yeah that's right i said it) and his woman is hotter, take that Bisping. :hat

Evan
09-06-2008, 08:54 PM
Rashad is going to get his ass kicked so bad but this match up was logical and he deserved a big fight.

polandprzem
09-06-2008, 09:39 PM
damn Karo out

polandprzem
09-06-2008, 09:48 PM
christ
nate

polandprzem
09-06-2008, 09:53 PM
Faber must be a great fan of the UFC I se him on every event I think

Now Palhares - your turn to show the world you are top fighter

just break through

Evan
09-06-2008, 10:19 PM
Faber must be a great fan of the UFC I se him on every event I think

Now Palhares - your turn to show the world you are top fighter

just break through

He lost but he hung with one of the best. He just needs a few more fights. He looked amazing.

Evan
09-06-2008, 10:34 PM
Tiiiiiiiiiimmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm mmmmmmm!!!!!!!!!!!!!

polandprzem
09-06-2008, 10:38 PM
He lost but he hung with one of the best. He just needs a few more fights. He looked amazing.

His standing needs to improve. HE is too damn one dimentional there and Dan was prepared for that.
I'm not much impressed with Dan - he lost his agression in UFC.


Now coming an interesting thing
Rich vs Matt

Evan
09-06-2008, 10:44 PM
- he lost his agression in UFC.


I agree...something is wrong.

I hope he fixes it!

Evan
09-06-2008, 11:02 PM
Poor Matt will be pissing blood for 3 weeks

polandprzem
09-06-2008, 11:06 PM
Poor Matt will be pissing blood for 3 weeks

It was not that bad


Umm so we have new guy in the picture of 205

Evan
09-06-2008, 11:10 PM
It was not that bad


Have you ever taken a direct liver shot in football...rugby...a little boxing with some friends....maybe a fight when you were younger?

It doesn't take much "to piss pink"

polandprzem
09-06-2008, 11:11 PM
UFChampionship but no championship bout in this card

Why it's not just Fight night?

polandprzem
09-06-2008, 11:11 PM
Have you ever taken a direct liver shot? It doesn't take much "to piss pink"

I thougt you was talking about that other shot

polandprzem
09-06-2008, 11:13 PM
Jardine would lose to Franklin

Tu Pac
09-06-2008, 11:28 PM
game over

polandprzem
09-06-2008, 11:29 PM
told ya!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Evan
09-06-2008, 11:32 PM
wow!

polandprzem
09-06-2008, 11:32 PM
chuck will go down

polandprzem
09-06-2008, 11:34 PM
Silence in Atlanta

polandprzem
09-06-2008, 11:34 PM
Dana to Chuck:

Yea I will give you title shot in the next fight

:D

polandprzem
09-06-2008, 11:35 PM
LHW is crazy

Rip-Hamilton32
09-06-2008, 11:40 PM
wow..my favorite fighter but god damn chuck got knocked the fuck out

Evan
09-06-2008, 11:42 PM
polandprzem called it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The only person to call it!

Evan
09-06-2008, 11:45 PM
You read my mind. Even Don King is a better promoter than Dan White

Please explain this.

Don King? Really? Don King? The guy who hit the self destruct button to boxing? Are you really comparing him to someone who has done nothing but make a sport grow by leaps and bounds monthly?

It doesn't matter if you like Dana but to deny what he has done to force mma to grow is idiocy.

Looking forward to you backing that comment up.

Man I get so sick of people making dumb comments about Dana just because he makes dumb comments in interviews. Without him the UFC would have been sold to a bank in Seattle and PRIDE would have died a whimper in Japan and this thread would not exist. It always stuns me how people can't grasp that.

polandprzem
09-06-2008, 11:55 PM
polandprzem called it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The only person to call it!

I don't know if I'm the only hehe

sometimes I call crazy stuff, and sometimes I'm right


As Randy said - it will all depend on Evans cause we know what Chuck is about.

polandprzem
09-06-2008, 11:57 PM
IMO Don and Dan are both great promoters

Don got old though :D

inagra
09-07-2008, 12:01 AM
great knockout. his neck almost came off

Evan
09-07-2008, 12:07 AM
IMO Don and Dan are both great promoters

Don got old though :D

What did Don King do for boxing? How did it grow? He has been involved with it for several decades so surely there must be many great things right?

Dana has done more for MMA in under a decade than King ever thought about while taking a shit.

Boxing was the first sport I ever loved and I am still a fan but to say Don King ever did anything positive to the sport is appalling.

The last image I have of Don King is screaming at Nikolai Valuev to pick up a card board cut out of a sky scraper and toss it around. Yeah...thats awesome.

tlongII
09-07-2008, 12:16 AM
I thought Rashad could beat Chuck. Rashad is a bad mofo. I'd like to see him fight Anderson Silva actually.

tlongII
09-07-2008, 12:18 AM
That iknockout was brutal!

dbreiden83080
09-07-2008, 12:23 AM
Okay can someone please explain to me how in the hell does Rashad look like total shit against Tito and Bisping (Who's now fighting at 185 and Tito may never fight in the UFC again), but he KO's Chuck friggin Liddell?? I can't believe Chuck lost that fight. He may be done. Great career but no way in hell a prime Chuck loses that fight. 2 years ago, he would have got Evans out of there in the first round.

inagra
09-07-2008, 12:28 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cGC3jjssf1A
TKO

before it gets taken off

polandprzem
09-07-2008, 01:07 AM
What did Don King do for boxing? How did it grow? He has been involved with it for several decades so surely there must be many great things right?

Dana has done more for MMA in under a decade than King ever thought about while taking a shit.

Boxing was the first sport I ever loved and I am still a fan but to say Don King ever did anything positive to the sport is appalling.

The last image I have of Don King is screaming at Nikolai Valuev to pick up a card board cut out of a sky scraper and toss it around. Yeah...thats awesome.

I'm not much into a promotion bullshit.
But you are right about that Dana did more for the MMA then Don for boxing although Don is first face when you are talking about promotions.
He is madeing illogical decisions - that's a fact - for example pumping up fake hype where there is no value in the fight or there is absolutely no reason for it. He is also the first guy when you talking about Tyson folding.

Dana may talk shit but he has a fresh view going forward. He wants go global with the UFC - I do not know if it's good, but as long as UFC stays in america "giving" sometimes their shows in Europe it could be benificial as hell.

I see the MMA growing real fast - in Poland we've got many fans of that sport - I could not even imagine how much. I would love to train MMA - I love training and practice. This indyvidual sport making you work hard IMO one of the hardest trainings in sports.

polandprzem
09-07-2008, 01:10 AM
Okay can someone please explain to me how in the hell does Rashad look like total shit against Tito and Bisping (Who's now fighting at 185 and Tito may never fight in the UFC again), but he KO's Chuck friggin Liddell?? I can't believe Chuck lost that fight. He may be done. Great career but no way in hell a prime Chuck loses that fight. 2 years ago, he would have got Evans out of there in the first round.

Maybe he improved?

Maybe he was well prepared with the plan?

Maybe he was faster?

Maybe Chuck did not took him serious?

Maybe Chuck was out of fighting rythym?

Maybe Rashard was lucky?



That's MMA - there is not much sure things when you fighting.

Brutalis
09-07-2008, 01:31 AM
I'm not all into this stuff but I like watching it.. and damn Chuck got the shit piss fuck knocked out of him. Wow.

dbreiden83080
09-07-2008, 01:59 AM
Maybe he improved?

Maybe he was well prepared with the plan?

Maybe he was faster?

Maybe Chuck did not took him serious?

Maybe Chuck was out of fighting rythym?

Maybe Rashard was lucky?



That's MMA - there is not much sure things when you fighting.

He didn't really improve much. It was basically a one punch KO set up by nothing special. Chuck won a very un-eventful RD 1. Rashad ran most of the RD and did not committ to any heavy shots. Chuck was trying to put on a show and he got way too over-aggressive in the 2nd Rd. Getting way too close to a man he has reach and height on. He threw a big shot, missed and got countered with a huge punch. Evans could not take Chuck down and he knew it. His only shot was to land a big shot and KO Chuck. Chuck is not what he was a few years ago but do i think Evans is going to be Champ someday?? Hell NO!!! I say have him fight Wandy next, and i got Wandy by KO inside of 2 rds.

polandprzem
09-07-2008, 04:17 AM
IMHO there is no need to call anybody an asshole


PS. Making a Chuck vs Forest fight would still bring big amount of money.

Evan
09-07-2008, 07:26 AM
Just for the record...when I said "idiocy" in my post I was speaking in generalities and not directly calling you personally an idiot. I worded that poorly...sorry about that.


If Dana was a good promoter like you claim then he would take the top fighters in MMA and promote them, but he takes a red neck bar brawler buddy of his and gives him title shot after title shot, and that my friend is why I made the comment in the first place. Lidell is not even in the top three fighters in his weight class and yet he gets promoted the most:nope

Chuck doesn't get promoted the most, he used to when he was the poster boy when he was dominating. As he deserved at the time. He is a UFC hall of famer and I think he has the most wins in the UFC, either him or Matt Hughes.

What title shot after title shot are you referring to?



I was just responding to the guy before me that said even though Chuck got knocked the fuck out, Dana will still get him a title fight.

No he will not...Chuck has fought 3 times since he lost his title and none were title shots. I don't think Chuck will ever see a title shot again.

And for everything else...comparing money right now is just silly...this sport is still too new to pull in boxing headline paydays. MMA is far from as global as boxing.

I have had the Don King argument so many times its like politics and I am sick of discussing so I won't go any further except to say you are correct about the good things he did until we get out of the 70's. But if you really think King has done more than Dana White to make their respective sports grow then I can't argue much because I know I will never be able to change your mind. Dana White made mma what it is today, Don advanced the sport in the 70's. There is a huge difference.

As of right now Dana does not get enough close to enough credit for making mma what it is today from the fans and some writers but thats his fault to a point. He comes off so poorly in interviews by being so brash which is by design but he went over board. He has toned it down a lot but its going to take a long time for people to notice.

Evan
09-07-2008, 07:47 AM
Its official...Rashad gets the next title shot against Griffin. I'd like to say that Griffin will dismantle him but who knows.

And assuming Lyoto wins his next fight you would think he gets the winner.

http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/26246/ko3_medium.gif

Chuck just left him self wide open right in front of Rashad.....

Evan
09-07-2008, 08:29 AM
Thiago Tavares (13-2) vs. Kurt Pellegrino (11-4) on www.ufc.com

djohn14
09-07-2008, 10:34 AM
God. Hamill looked really fast. Of course Franklin outclassed him...bad. But I really underestimated Hamills speed! Rashad...wow....wow...wow.

polandprzem
09-07-2008, 11:17 AM
Well Quinton also won the battle against Chuck with one shot and it was bit controversial that ref stopped the fight then. I haven't heard any complains only because rampage was already considered top LHW through years.

Evan
09-07-2008, 11:21 AM
Chuck needs a new camp if he wants to go on. BJ Penn claims you should never be at the same camp for longer than 4 years.

desflood
09-07-2008, 11:23 AM
polandprzem called it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The only person to call it!
Ahem.

But what was up with the Rashad/nipple thing? I had problems with the guy already...

That was just weird.

tlongII
09-07-2008, 11:37 AM
Ahem.

But what was up with the Rashad/nipple thing? I had problems with the guy already...

That was just weird.

:lol That was rather strange. I think Rashad will give Forrest trouble. He's got very thick legs that make him tough to knock out and he's a good wrestler. It might be a boring fight though.

Evan
09-07-2008, 11:41 AM
polandprzem and desflood called it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The only person(s) to call it!

polandprzem
09-07-2008, 11:44 AM
Chuck needs a new camp if he wants to go on. BJ Penn claims you should never be at the same camp for longer than 4 years.

True that

However if the team is changing programmes and concepts with scheudled % of changes you can be succesfull.

polandprzem
09-07-2008, 11:46 AM
Ahem.

But what was up with the Rashad/nipple thing? I had problems with the guy already...

That was just weird.

GSP also was doing that
Both guys as I read on other forum trains greg jackson - so maybe a hidden power?

atxrocker
09-07-2008, 11:57 AM
the ice man looks finished in there. it was fun while it lasted, chuck!

polandprzem
09-07-2008, 12:02 PM
http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/6489/gspnip2hm6.gif

Evan
09-07-2008, 12:34 PM
GSP also was doing that
Both guys as I read on other forum trains greg jackson - so maybe a hidden power?

:lmao

TheTruth
09-07-2008, 01:49 PM
I'll be glad to explain how Don King is a much better promoter than Dana White... but first of all read the fucking post before you go running your pie hole. I never said Dana didnt do a good job making the UFC popular, I was just responding to the guy before me that said even though Chuck got knocked the fuck out, Dana will still get him a title fight.

Now King on the other hand came into the boxing game when boxing was completely DEAD!!! A promoters job is to set up a venue and put together a great fight, right? No other promoter has come close to King. His very first fight was Rumble in the Jungle with Ali and Foreman. At that time the mafia ran boxing and fighters werent making crap!!! King got a record $10 million for the two fighters to split up $5 mil a piece. That was way back in 1974 and Im willing to bet that Dana white has never paid one of his fighters even close to that amount, and that was more than 30 years ago.

His next fight was the Thrilla in Manilla and both fighters made millions again. Keep in mind that all of these fights are still classics today. Larry Holmes, Wilfred Benitez, Roberto Duran, Salvador Sanchez, Wilfredo Gómez, and Alexis Arguello would all fight under Don King 1970's. In less than 10 years the guy had already establised the careers of atleast 8 legends.

For the next two decades, King continued to be boxing's most successful promoter. Mike Tyson, Evander Holyfield, Julio César Chávez, Aaron Pryor, Bernard Hopkins, Ricardo Lopez, Felix Trinidad, Terry Norris, Carlos Zarate, Azumah Nelson, Andrzej Gołota, Mike McCallum,Gerald McClellan and Meldrick Taylor are some of the boxers who chose King to promote many of their biggest fights. Once again asshole, those are all legends who became popular because of King.

But it doesnt stop there. King was responsible for promoting the Jackson 5 Victory tour which was sold out every night. Now I know he has been sued many times, but what pomoter hasnt? The point Im making is that Don King had something to do with their success. Tyson alone was said to have made over $200 million from boxing. Im willing to bet you that if you combine all of Dana Whites fighters as of right now, they have yet to make that much money combined.

Sure boxing is is not as popular as it once was, but its far from dead you jack ass. Can Dana get any of his fighters $20 mil a fight like Oscar and Mayweather... hell no!!! He cant even get them $5 million, not even $1mil. The top guys only get around $200k and the bottom feeders only get around $2000. Now if UFC and Dana White was so great, then how come Dana cant get his top fighters million dollar paydays.

Chuck Lidell is the highest paid fighter in MMA and he only makes $500k a fight. Mayweather would piss on that money. Even the bottom dwellers in boxing make that kind of money. And guess what smart ass, most of the MMA fighters get paid according to if they win or not. WOW... some promoter Dana is. If Dana was a good promoter like you claim then he would take the top fighters in MMA and promote them, but he takes a red neck bar brawler buddy of his and gives him title shot after title shot, and that my friend is why I made the comment in the first place. Lidell is not even in the top three fighters in his weight class and yet he gets promoted the most:nope

Now when Don King gets into MMA, the million dollar paydays will follow. Oh, and King does not won boxing like Dana owns UFC. He only manages and promotes fighters, so how in the hell was he responsible for the fall of boxing?

Great Great post.

dbreiden83080
09-07-2008, 03:06 PM
Its official...Rashad gets the next title shot against Griffin. I'd like to say that Griffin will dismantle him but who knows.

And assuming Lyoto wins his next fight you would think he gets the winner.

http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/26246/ko3_medium.gif

Chuck just left him self wide open right in front of Rashad.....

Wide open. After Winning RD 1, Chuck gets over-aggressive and is wide open to be put down. This to me is a little like Serra and GSP 1. Chuck would have won the fight had he been smarter stayed on the outside more and picked Evans apart. He got way too overconfident last night and he payed the price.

Lyoto i would think it would take a miracle to get a title shot. His style is boring and he speaks almost no english. The UFC can't have him as their 205 pd champ over someone like Forrest. Who' popular and marketable. Lyoto may deserve a shot but i would hate to give him one from a business point of view.

dbreiden83080
09-07-2008, 03:13 PM
Chuck needs a new camp if he wants to go on. BJ Penn claims you should never be at the same camp for longer than 4 years.

Well BJ is never in shape for a fight so his losses were probably more on that than anything else. Chuck changing camps i don't think will matter. He is just not as dominant as he once was. He is pushing 40 years old and his timing and reflexes are just a little slower than they once were. That is all it takes at this level of the game. He is not the same guy that dessimated Tito in grand KO fashion in RD 2 of their first fight. The guy that destroyed Randy, with viscious strikes in their last 2 fights. It's funny the run he was on, Chuck was on his way to going down as the best 205 pd fighter ever. But losing to Jackson again, then Jardine and now Rashad, his legacy has been taken down a peg. No question about it.

Evan
09-07-2008, 03:59 PM
Well BJ is never in shape for a fight so his losses were probably more on that than anything else. Chuck changing camps i don't think will matter. He is just not as dominant as he once was. He is pushing 40 years old and his timing and reflexes are just a little slower than they once were. That is all it takes at this level of the game. He is not the same guy that dessimated Tito in grand KO fashion in RD 2 of their first fight. The guy that destroyed Randy, with viscious strikes in their last 2 fights. It's funny the run he was on, Chuck was on his way to going down as the best 205 pd fighter ever. But losing to Jackson again, then Jardine and now Rashad, his legacy has been taken down a peg. No question about it.

You're right but I guess I am just trying to say that he need to mix it up.

djohn14
09-07-2008, 05:54 PM
Chuck has lost his mojo. I honestly dont know if he still has a passion for fighting anymore, and why should he? Hes accomplished a whole lot in a growing sport, I just dont know. Chuck isnt what he was before, thats for sure. I just can see his game diminishing this much over one year. Its possible, Matt Hughes lost it that fast, I just think this is a different Chuck.

desflood
09-07-2008, 06:37 PM
My favorite quote of the night came from Goldy for once, instead of Rogan:

(talking about Hendo's stance) "That right hand never moves... unless he throws it."

Evan
09-07-2008, 06:43 PM
My favorite quote of the night came from Goldy for once, instead of Rogan:

(talking about Hendo's stance) "That right hand never moves... unless he throws it."

oh gawd....

I love Rogan but Goldie just sucks....I wish Kenny Rice would replace him.

djohn14
09-07-2008, 07:14 PM
oh gawd....

I love Rogan but Goldie just sucks....I wish Kenny Rice would replace him.

I wish anyone would replace him....anyone. Id even take the idiot from Elite XC.

Evan
09-07-2008, 07:18 PM
I wish anyone would replace him....anyone. Id even take the idiot from Elite XC.

you would tire of that moron within 2 shows.

angelbelow
09-07-2008, 09:43 PM
now i see why everyone wanted to watch kim fight.

oligarchy
09-07-2008, 10:36 PM
you would tire of that moron within 2 shows.

Mauro? He didn't seem as bad in Pride.

I'd actually like a combination of Quadros and Mir (Couture is actually a great commentator too).

oligarchy
09-07-2008, 10:42 PM
now i see why everyone wanted to watch kim fight.

Kim was actually fairly unimpressive. He gassed too early trying to work the back. Although the decision was correct for the scoring rules, it wasn't his fight. That's the problem with using boxing rules to judge MMA fights, you aren't scoring the whole fight. While it was clear, at least to me, that Kim won the first round and the second round was clearly Brown, the third round was ultimately decided in the last minute. The problem with this is that Kim didn't do much work in the 2nd at all, and the third was only at the end. That cut, I believe, was the deciding factor. If we were watching this in Pride, I'd have to say that Matt Brown would have won.

dallaskd
09-07-2008, 11:18 PM
I really dont know what to say about this.

Nate is a Beast.
Brown won.
Hendo is still a warrior.
Evans...wtf?
Franklin is a stud.

dallaskd
09-07-2008, 11:21 PM
MacDonald and Timmayy looked good as well. The Evans KO was badass i just dont really have any comments on this card.

Evan
09-08-2008, 07:58 AM
Mauro? He didn't seem as bad in Pride.

I'd actually like a combination of Quadros and Mir (Couture is actually a great commentator too).

I think he was ok for pride but since then he become a barking hyperbole. But his old partner Bas has gotten much better which he has indirectly accredited to being sober.

Quadros and Mir sounds interesting but he (Quadros) doesn't seem to do much commentating anymore…wonder why. I think he even stopped doing his podcast.

And yeah Couture is great which is why I was so frustrated in his return press conference nobody asked if he was doing another personal services contract. The only knock on him is his low voice but when he projects it he's spot on.

ATRAIN
09-08-2008, 09:03 AM
polandprzem called it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The only person to call it!

Are you sure about that, I called it first go to page 2.

ATRAIN
09-08-2008, 09:22 AM
Rashad? Im not counting him out by any means, but why?...how KO, Sub, Dec?


I just think we are witnessing the decline of Liddell. I think Rashad will win by decision or KO. Chuck throws his hands down too much and if he gets caught by Rashad it will be Rampage revisited.

Again Chuck gets caught because he doesnt know how to keep his hands up. Thats boxing 101, and I know it was a sucking part of training. I hated it but they push that on you EVERYTIME your in the ring.

Evan
09-08-2008, 09:25 AM
dang it

ATRAIN
09-08-2008, 09:28 AM
dang it

LOL thanks for giving my credit to someone else. I even called how it was going to happen!!

LEONARD
09-08-2008, 12:17 PM
:wow

Still can't believe that KO...viscious...

Glad to see Rich and Dan get wins. Palhares and Hamill still have bright futures in the sport.

F'n Marquardt...dirty bastard...Kampman will be great at 170 lbs. He just needed a good beating to make the change...

Kim better learn to not blow his wad in the 1st rd.


Rashad is going to get his ass kicked so bad but this match up was logical and he deserved a big fight.

:depressed

I had to...


Well Quinton also won the battle against Chuck with one shot and it was bit controversial that ref stopped the fight then. I haven't heard any complains only because rampage was already considered top LHW through years.

Not controversial at all...Chuck was out cold and was revived by the next punch just as Big John was stepping in. Perfect stoppage really...


Ahem.

But what was up with the Rashad/nipple thing? I had problems with the guy already...

That was just weird.

Turning up da riddum...


Well BJ is never in shape for a fight

Wha?


My favorite quote of the night came from Goldy for once, instead of Rogan:

(talking about Hendo's stance) "That right hand never moves... unless he throws it."

:lol


Kim was actually fairly unimpressive. He gassed too early trying to work the back. Although the decision was correct for the scoring rules, it wasn't his fight. That's the problem with using boxing rules to judge MMA fights, you aren't scoring the whole fight. While it was clear, at least to me, that Kim won the first round and the second round was clearly Brown, the third round was ultimately decided in the last minute. The problem with this is that Kim didn't do much work in the 2nd at all, and the third was only at the end. That cut, I believe, was the deciding factor. If we were watching this in Pride, I'd have to say that Matt Brown would have won.

although Pride did factor in physical damage as a large part of the scoring. It was a close fight under any rules.

I had Kim taking the 1st and 3rd...the last 1:30 on top and the big cut left an impression on the judges. He saved just enough energy to pull it out after blowing his wad hanging on Brown's back in the 1st...

Evan
09-08-2008, 12:26 PM
...bastard...

dbreiden83080
09-08-2008, 12:32 PM
Wha?


You wanna debate me on this point by all means, i'm ready

ATRAIN
09-08-2008, 12:34 PM
Its official...Rashad gets the next title shot against Griffin. I'd like to say that Griffin will dismantle him but who knows.

And assuming Lyoto wins his next fight you would think he gets the winner.

http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/26246/ko3_medium.gif

Chuck just left him self wide open right in front of Rashad.....

Where do you guys find these gifs?

dbreiden83080
09-08-2008, 12:39 PM
Rashad's reaction after the KO was weird. He did not really celebrate and nobody in his camp even came into the ring and celebrated. Was he genuinely worried about Chuck, after he KO'd him??

Evan
09-08-2008, 12:55 PM
www.bloodyelbow.com for gifs.

There is a site that only does gifs but I can't remember it. How it hasn't been shut down is beyond me so zuffa must allow it since its sort of free advertising.

dbreiden83080
09-08-2008, 01:49 PM
Having seen the fight back a few times over one thing about Chuck i see other than his reflexes being not as sharp as they once were is he has become very one dimensional with his striking. Chuck has great kicks, and kickboxing experience and while he never really over-used them, he didn't used to basically ignore his kicks either. His style is that now he basically just hangs that left out there to give you something to look at, with his right hand cocked back, looking to land that huge over-hand right. He doesn't even throw a left jab with any kind of authority anymore. Jardine took advanatage of Chuck just head-hunting. He leg-kicked Chuck to death while Chuck was just looking for that one punch bomb. He was wide open to kicks in the Silva fight but Wandy got himself drawn into a punching match with Chuck and did not take advantage. Chuck's skills have diminshed and his game-plans now suck, in my opinion.

Evan
09-08-2008, 02:09 PM
dbreiden83080 you could take some of your posts for the last two days..brush it up and a bit and submit it to Kori as a guest blog.

dbreiden83080
09-08-2008, 02:16 PM
dbreiden83080 you could take some of your posts for the last two days..brush it up and a bit and submit it to Kori as a guest blog.

I'm going to give her something soon on the whole Randy and Brock fight, what it would mean for the UFC to have either guy win. I am getting my thoughts together on that or something to do with GSP, who i can't say enough about.

Evan
09-08-2008, 02:20 PM
I'm going to give her something soon on the whole Randy and Brock fight, what it would mean for the UFC to have either guy win. I am getting my thoughts together on that or something to do with GSP, who i can't say enough about.

Looking forward to it…I can always tell when a write up is written by someone who is passionate about the subject vs just writing one to fill space. Yours should be good.

ATRAIN
09-08-2008, 02:22 PM
I'm going to give her something soon on the whole Randy and Brock fight, what it would mean for the UFC to have either guy win. I am getting my thoughts together on that or something to do with GSP, who i can't say enough about.

I was going to write one on the history of Brock, basically his steps to where he is now. What do you guys think?

dbreiden83080
09-08-2008, 02:26 PM
Looking forward to it…I can always tell when a write up is written by someone who is passionate about the subject vs just writing one to fill space. Yours should be good.

Thanks :toast

BTW who thinks Tito is sitting home right now thinking "Damn, how does Rashad KO Chuck (Who i could not beat on my best day) and i get a draw with this guy, DAMN!!!"

Tito should give the UFC a call maybe they'll reconsider, LOL

Evan
09-08-2008, 02:27 PM
Atrain...that sounds like a good idea man. I think there is so many people ignorant that he(Brock) is a real athlete. If you guys do that then that’s 2 so I will do mine for the 09/20/08 weekend.

ATRAIN
09-08-2008, 02:27 PM
Thanks :toast

BTW who thinks Tito is sitting home right now thinking "Damn, how does Rashad KO Chuck (Who i could not beat on my best day) and i get a draw with this guy, DAMN!!!"

Tito should give the UFC a call maybe they'll reconsider, LOL

LOL Im sure Dana would welcome him back with Open Arms

dbreiden83080
09-08-2008, 02:31 PM
I was going to write one on the history of Brock, basically his steps to where he is now. What do you guys think?

I was going to write one, just taking it from both sides in terms of the impact of the fight. What does it mean for the UFC, if Brock wins versus Randy winning? It is a fascinating fight from that angle i feel. Randy keeps going on and on about Fedor, a fight nobody will care about if he loses to Brock. Brock being the ex-wwe wrestler to UFC champ is fascinating as well. If you want to do that i can focus on something with GSP or something else altogether. I have a few ideas.

Evan
09-08-2008, 02:34 PM
LOL Im sure Dana would welcome him back with Open Arms

There is no question deep down inside he would but publically he would carry on the "tito vs dana soap opera" since it works and I guarentee Tito wants back now. I bet he thought he would have signed a 5 fight deal by now with someone else.

dbreiden83080
09-08-2008, 02:36 PM
There is no question deep down inside he would but publically he would carry on the "tito vs dana soap opera" since it works and I guarentee Tito wants back now. I bet he thought he would have signed a 5 fight deal by now with someone else.

I think Rashad will lose to Forrest, so get Tito back, find him a tomato can to beat and then set up Rashad and Tito 2. Pretty please Dana :p:

Evan
09-08-2008, 02:39 PM
FRANK Shamrock Vs Tito for a mega fight.

ATRAIN
09-08-2008, 02:45 PM
I was going to write one, just taking it from both sides in terms of the impact of the fight. What does it mean for the UFC, if Brock wins versus Randy winning? It is a fascinating fight from that angle i feel. Randy keeps going on and on about Fedor, a fight nobody will care about if he loses to Brock. Brock being the ex-wwe wrestler to UFC champ is fascinating as well. If you want to do that i can focus on something with GSP or something else altogether. I have a few ideas.


Well basically I was going to write about the Future of MMA brock, about his collegiate wrestling background, his sucessfull career in the WWE, his stint as a Minnesota Viking (if you can call it that), then onto his first 3 MMA fights which were very impressive minus the loss the MIR (even though he dominated). You can still talk about the weight of the fight between Brock, Randy, and Fedor. Im only going to touch on the Randy fight in the closing sentence of my write up.

ATRAIN
09-08-2008, 02:46 PM
I think Rashad will lose to Forrest, so get Tito back, find him a tomato can to beat and then set up Rashad and Tito 2. Pretty please Dana :p:

Yeah even though I called Rashad winning against chuck (first I might add ;), even though Im waiting for EVAN to give me credit). Forest's chin is too strong hahhaa. That bitch can take a hit.

Evan
09-08-2008, 02:49 PM
Yeah even though I called Rashad winning against chuck (first I might add ;), even though Im waiting for EVAN to give me credit). Forest's chin is too strong hahhaa. That bitch can take a hit.

Yeah you nailed it…not sure how I missed your post.

dbreiden83080
09-08-2008, 02:52 PM
Well basically I was going to write about the Future of MMA brock, about his collegiate wrestling background, his sucessfull career in the WWE, his stint as a Minnesota Viking (if you can call it that), then onto his first 3 MMA fights which were very impressive minus the loss the MIR (even though he dominated). You can still talk about the weight of the fight between Brock, Randy, and Fedor. Im only going to touch on the Randy fight in the closing sentence of my write up.

That sounds good, why don't you do that and i'll get something together on Randy, a little on his comeback, why he wants Fedor so bad, does he deserve that fight, what it would mean losing to Brock Etc. I'll get it together by Fri or Sat, is that the timeline you were thinking as well??

ATRAIN
09-08-2008, 02:52 PM
Yeah you nailed it…not sure how I missed your post.

Thank you thank you hahahahah. I just saw a repeat of Rampage and boy was it ever! Granted the more I see the knockout the more I cringe haha. Lidell clipped him, while Rashad got a whole lot of face.

Evan
09-08-2008, 02:53 PM
So you two are guest blogging this week and me and someone else the next?

ATRAIN
09-08-2008, 02:54 PM
That sounds good, why don't you do that and i'll get something together on Randy, a little on his comeback, why he wants Fedor so bad, does he deserve that fight, what it would mean losing to Brock Etc. I'll get it together by Fri or Sat, is that the timeline you were thinking as well??

Yeah I was going to work on it a bit tomm after work/gym. I will prob be done by mid this week and get it proof read since I rush through things I type sometimes. Yeah sounds good, will give us some background on the 2 fighters leading up to their matchup.

ATRAIN
09-08-2008, 02:54 PM
So you two are guest blogging this week and me and someone else the next?

Yes sir

dbreiden83080
09-08-2008, 02:56 PM
Yeah I was going to work on it a bit tomm after work/gym. I will prob be done by mid this week and get it proof read since I rush through things I type sometimes. Yeah sounds good, will give us some background on the 2 fighters leading up to their matchup.

Ok sounds good. You take Brock's angle and i'll do Randy's. I'll get cracking by tomorrow morning and should have it done maybe by mid-week as well, end of week by the latest.

Evan
09-08-2008, 02:57 PM
very cool.

I guess it will be dallaskd and I for the weekend of the 20th.

dbreiden83080
09-08-2008, 02:58 PM
So you two are guest blogging this week and me and someone else the next?

Yep, i'll do one on Randy this week for sure

Evan
09-08-2008, 03:00 PM
Hopefully we can keep this up for at least 2 rotations so Kori has time to hire someone.

dbreiden83080
09-08-2008, 03:02 PM
Hopefully we can keep this up for at least 2 rotations so Kori has time to hire someone.

There are a lot of huge fights coming up in the next few months, so we should be able to manage.

Evan
09-08-2008, 03:04 PM
There are a lot of huge fights coming up in the next few months, so we should be able to manage.

Yeah and like I said awhile ago some of our posts are good enough for a little blog with some fluffing….

dbreiden83080
09-08-2008, 03:11 PM
Yeah and like I said awhile ago some of our posts are good enough for a little blog with some fluffing….

I'm at work so they'll get the proper fluffing at home

Evan
09-08-2008, 03:12 PM
I'm at work so they'll get the proper fluffing at home

:rollin

LEONARD
09-08-2008, 04:01 PM
You wanna debate me on this point by all means, i'm ready

He was in shape for Pulver, Stevenson, and Sherk...at a minimum...


Where do you guys find these gifs?

mma-core.com

has a gif section and a video section

dbreiden83080
09-08-2008, 04:15 PM
He was in shape for Pulver, Stevenson, and Sherk...at a minimum...


at 155 he is in decent shape because he has to be thin to make weight. He has never been in great shape at 170. Last seen gassing out in the Hughes rematch. Have you seen him lately?? He has gotten very fat and out of shape in between fights again. GSP is one of the finest conditioned athletes in the sport. He is going to wear BJ out come Jan.

djohn14
09-08-2008, 04:44 PM
Im usually pretty busy at work, but if something goes down and someone needs help or cant go at the last minute I can try to come up with something...broke a bone in my shin today though so Im sure I can get a little free time. It was pretty nasty...Just jumped off the road grader, and somehow the bones in m legs just moved in the wrong directions...didnt pop out of the skin, but dang...naassty.

Evan
09-08-2008, 05:30 PM
Im usually pretty busy at work, but if something goes down and someone needs help or cant go at the last minute I can try to come up with something...broke a bone in my shin today though so Im sure I can get a little free time. It was pretty nasty...Just jumped off the road grader, and somehow the bones in m legs just moved in the wrong directions...didnt pop out of the skin, but dang...naassty.


What the hell?

djohn14
09-08-2008, 05:46 PM
What the hell?

Its a bone in the leg.

dallaskd
09-08-2008, 06:25 PM
Mauro? He didn't seem as bad in Pride.

I'd actually like a combination of Quadros and Mir (Couture is actually a great commentator too).

Florian and Couture are the future of MMA broadcasting. I wouldnt mind having Big John either.

Evan
09-08-2008, 06:26 PM
Its a bone in the leg.

No I mean thats one hell of a crazy accident...sorry to hear that man!

dallaskd
09-08-2008, 06:30 PM
Forrest will pound on Evans unless something like that happens. Rampage rocked Griffin and he couldnt even finish him.

dbreiden83080
09-08-2008, 06:30 PM
Florian and Couture are the future of MMA broadcasting. I wouldnt mind having Big John either.

Florian yes, Randy i don't find to be very good. Get rid of Goldberg though, it is time he got replaced he is lousy.

dallaskd
09-08-2008, 06:31 PM
Florian yes, Randy i don't find to be very good. Get rid of Goldberg though, it is time he got replaced he is lousy.

better than Mauro. that guy is a freakin moron. WHO WILL STOP KIMBO SLICE?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

dallaskd
09-08-2008, 06:35 PM
Can Kampman make 170? He would be a stud there.

I was really impressed with Matt. Give him 2 or 3 years and he might be ready for a title shot. I hate to mention it cause i love both of them but Soku-Franklin would be a war. A good elimination fight IMO. 205 is such a mess. no one sticks out but Machida. Where does Wandy and Shogun fit in?

desflood
09-08-2008, 06:48 PM
I'd rather see Machida get the next title shot. Nobody wants to see him as champ, though. "Too boring" and all.

djohn14
09-08-2008, 06:53 PM
I dont know, but I would really suggest Kampman try. Like you said, he would be a force.

I too would love to see Soku and Franklin....I think Wandy should fight Machida to see who fights the winner of Rashad/Forrest...but Rampage has Wandy Im pretty sure. What about Shogun/Machida...I want to see that, but the UFC wouldnt want Shogun to come in and lose 2 straight. Would they even risk it?





No I mean thats one hell of a crazy accident...sorry to hear that man!
Yeah, it sucked. Thanks bro!

Evan
09-08-2008, 06:53 PM
I'd rather see Machida get the next title shot. Nobody wants to see him as champ, though. "Too boring" and all.

:cuss

TheTruth
09-08-2008, 06:56 PM
I don't think Rashad has a chance against Chuck. Chuck's chin is too good, and Rashad doesn't have the power.






































:smokin

dallaskd
09-08-2008, 06:59 PM
wow Pelligreno owned Tavares. tavares clearly tapped in the 2nd round.

dbreiden83080
09-08-2008, 06:59 PM
:cuss

He's great Evan, no doubt about it. However you gotta admit, he is very tough to sell. You think Dana is looking to match him over Forrest, who is so popular and marketable? Forrest as champ at 205 is a very very good thing right now for the UFC. I just can't see them giving him a shot until he cleans everyone out of that division. He needs big wins over people like Jackson and Wandy to get that shot. Something that will really turn some heads.

dbreiden83080
09-08-2008, 07:02 PM
Hey guys fight thread

9 pages DEEP :toast

That's more action than the Kingstalk section has seen in well, maybe ever :p:

desflood
09-08-2008, 07:08 PM
:cuss
I hope that's not directed at me! I like the guy.

dallaskd
09-08-2008, 07:21 PM
I personally dont like Machida cause I think he's lame person. And after what he did to Rich and Soku.

Evan
09-08-2008, 07:25 PM
He's great Evan, no doubt about it. However you gotta admit, he is very tough to sell. You think Dana is looking to match him over Forrest, who is so popular and marketable? Forrest as champ at 205 is a very very good thing right now for the UFC. I just can't see them giving him a shot until he cleans everyone out of that division. He needs big wins over people like Jackson and Wandy to get that shot. Something that will really turn some heads.

No doubt he's a tough sell at this point in time but I think he will grow on people eventually. A KO or two will go a long way as we the mma fan are a emotional, fickle and reactionary breed much akin to the college football and soccer fan. If he wins his next fight he will get a title shot. He only has 13 fights he still has so much room to grow.


I hope that's not directed at me! I like the guy.

It was...but done with affection...:eyebrows

desflood
09-08-2008, 07:35 PM
A likely story!

Evan
09-08-2008, 07:44 PM
A likely story!

:makeout

djohn14
09-08-2008, 07:49 PM
I really dont want to get into another Machida is boring/great debate. Obviously he is one of the better fighters in the division...There is a reason why nobody will fight him. No, he will never be exciting to a bandwagon fan, but for some of us diehard fans, its interesting the way he fights. How he dosent dictate the pace, and counterstrikes....its just interesting. Of course I want to see the massive knockouts, sick subs, judo throws, and great wrestling, but I dont mind watching Machida fight at all. He isnt my favorite....probably not in my top 15, but...at the end of the day he wins his fights. And thats the truth!

Evan
09-08-2008, 07:53 PM
I really dont want to get into another Machida is boring/great debate. Obviously he is one of the better fighters in the division...There is a reason why nobody will fight him. No, he will never be exciting to a bandwagon fan, but for some of us diehard fans, its interesting the way he fights. How he dosent dictate the pace, and counterstrikes....its just interesting. Of course I want to see the massive knockouts, sick subs, judo throws, and great wrestling, but I dont mind watching Machida fight at all. He isnt my favorite....probably not in my top 15, but...at the end of the day he wins his fights. And thats the truth!

If he gets a KO or two people will change their minds

dbreiden83080
09-08-2008, 08:49 PM
So you two are guest blogging this week and me and someone else the next?


Well basically I was going to write about the Future of MMA brock, about his collegiate wrestling background, his sucessfull career in the WWE, his stint as a Minnesota Viking (if you can call it that), then onto his first 3 MMA fights which were very impressive minus the loss the MIR (even though he dominated). You can still talk about the weight of the fight between Brock, Randy, and Fedor. Im only going to touch on the Randy fight in the closing sentence of my write up.

Alright i finished up my rough draft of my Blog Entry. I changed it up a bit. I mainly talked about Randy and how much longer he can defy the odds given his age. Talked about Brock and what he brings to the table but left most of his background stuff out of it so you can take that angle. I'll send it to Kori after i clean it up sometime tomorrow.

Evan
09-08-2008, 08:51 PM
alright...dallaskd or cornbread ...one of you do a story with me next week?

dallaskd
09-08-2008, 09:12 PM
oh idk. maybe. I'm a lousy writer. I have no idea what to write about. Maybe a piece on Sokoudjou.

desflood
09-08-2008, 09:16 PM
Hey, you can't do any worse than I did. Give it a shot.

Evan
09-08-2008, 09:24 PM
oh idk. maybe. I'm a lousy writer. I have no idea what to write about. Maybe a piece on Sokoudjou.

Don't worry...250 words is nothing and just write like you're doing a regular post.

Evan
09-08-2008, 09:24 PM
Hey, you can't do any worse than I did. Give it a shot.

I liked your write up

desflood
09-08-2008, 09:27 PM
You're so nice. If there's a next time I'll find something more interesting to write about...

One of you guys for this weekend - do something on Evan Tanner maybe?

Evan
09-08-2008, 09:28 PM
One of you guys for this weekend - do something on Evan Tanner maybe?

Oh I'm taking that one for sure. :depressed

dbreiden83080
09-08-2008, 10:24 PM
Alright i polished it all up and sent it to Kori. She'll let me know if there are any problems with it.

Edit: done Kori said she'd post it tomorrow so just A-Train has to get his done and we are good

ATRAIN
09-09-2008, 08:52 AM
Alright i polished it all up and sent it to Kori. She'll let me know if there are any problems with it.

Edit: done Kori said she'd post it tomorrow so just A-Train has to get his done and we are good

Just finished mine, working on the finishing touches.

tlongII
09-09-2008, 09:40 AM
Machida can't be that much more boring than Rashad. They are both the equivalent of counterpunchers in boxing. Great fighters, but not the most exciting lot.

dallaskd
09-09-2008, 05:46 PM
I actually prefer watching Machida over Rashad.

desflood
09-09-2008, 06:20 PM
The answer to the mystery that still disturbs me, three days later:

MMAjunkie gets the answers to the questions we've all been asking - namely, why the hell Greg Jackson's guys have been pinching their nipples before fights.

"Georges St. Pierre was the first do it, and it's just sort of an inside joke," Evans said.

Evans said St. Pierre had heard it was supposed to bring good luck -- according to some ancient fighting myths, anyway. And if there's anything the New Mexico-based Team Jackson group knows, it's unity. Led by famed fight strategist and head trainer Greg Jackson, the team has created a sense of brotherhood among team members Evans, St. Pierre, Keith Jardine, Nate Marquardt, Joey Villasenor and others.

"Georges said it was supposed to good luck or something, so I said, 'Cool, alright,'" Evans said, laughing.

LEONARD
09-09-2008, 06:41 PM
at 155 he is in decent shape because he has to be thin to make weight. He has never been in great shape at 170. Last seen gassing out in the Hughes rematch. Have you seen him lately?? He has gotten very fat and out of shape in between fights again. GSP is one of the finest conditioned athletes in the sport. He is going to wear BJ out come Jan.

We'll see...

He's a true LW. He doesn't have the typical WW frame so he's not going to look like a Fitch or GSP at 170 lbs.

dallaskd
09-09-2008, 06:54 PM
I don't remember what BJ looked at on his adventures to 205. I think it looked about the same as he is at 170. pics anyone?

dallaskd
09-09-2008, 06:56 PM
http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/6489/gspnip2hm6.gif

http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o52/Goddhand/riddum.jpg

djohn14
09-09-2008, 08:14 PM
Lmao!

oligarchy
09-09-2008, 11:25 PM
I don't remember what BJ looked at on his adventures to 205. I think it looked about the same as he is at 170. pics anyone?
wDgNhVrSRuQ

angelbelow
09-10-2008, 12:02 AM
Machida can't be that much more boring than Rashad. They are both the equivalent of counterpunchers in boxing. Great fighters, but not the most exciting lot.

agreed.

LEONARD
09-10-2008, 12:37 PM
Hamill’s trainer doesn’t know why he didn’t work for a takedown
http://mmamania.com/2008/09/09/trainer-i-practically-begged-matt-to-take-rich-down-at-ufc-88/

Pictures
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/flash/zoomGallery?section=gen&photoGalleryId=3574457

Post-fight party pics
http://www.combatlifestyle.com/pics/view_album.php?id=1174

Hendo’s pig roast
http://www.combatlifestyle.com/pics/view_album.php?id=1175
http://www.combatlifestyle.com/pics/view_album.php?id=1176

dbreiden83080
09-10-2008, 01:04 PM
Hamill’s trainer doesn’t know why he didn’t work for a takedown
http://mmamania.com/2008/09/09/trainer-i-practically-begged-matt-to-take-rich-down-at-ufc-88/
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"I told him after the fight that his performance was uncharacteristic and that he really needed to do some soul searching to see if this is really what he wants to do. He had absolutely no fighting spirit, no killer instinct. He looked like a shell of himself and was just out there to get through it and that is very disconcerting.”

That is really harsh right there. Matt had never been in there before with a guy of Rich's caliber and experience. Matt does not have very many fights. Maybe he was a little gunshy because he and Rich are friends. Matt is a very nice, good guy by all accounts. I don't think this loss though will be the end of him. He is a lot of ability, he'll be back.

LEONARD
09-10-2008, 02:53 PM
Had to be due to him fighting his friend...

dbreiden83080
09-10-2008, 04:39 PM
I think it is a lot for his trainer to tell him

"Do some soul searching about whether or not this is what you want to do" after that loss. I saw the fight, he tried but Rich was too versatile for him.