View Full Version : Biggest asset Biden brings to the table?
Supergirl
08-28-2008, 07:47 AM
What do you think is the best things Biden brings to the Democratic ticket?
DarkReign
08-28-2008, 08:31 AM
No idea. Guy seems like a douche to me.
Supergirl
08-28-2008, 09:20 AM
a douche? He is the reason we have the Violence Against Women's Act - which is responsible for reducing the severity of a lot of the domestic violence in this country and making it a lot easier for women to get out of violent situations.
No "nothing" option? I doubt Biden will bring Obama a single vote.
a douche? He is the reason we have the Violence Against Women's Act - which is responsible for reducing the severity of a lot of the domestic violence in this country and making it a lot easier for women to get out of violent situations.
Please explain this in greater detail.
Anti.Hero
08-28-2008, 10:24 AM
lol Biden.
He has lots of experience riding a train. And the American Dream is dead.
That's about what I heard from his last night.
Sec24Row7
08-28-2008, 11:26 AM
No "nothing" option? I doubt Biden will bring Obama a single vote.
Well... he will probably get Biden's as a result...
Supergirl
08-28-2008, 12:09 PM
Please explain this in greater detail.
This explains what the act is: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VAWA
From the Wikipedia article about Biden:
"Biden has been involved in crafting many federal crime laws over the last decade, including the Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act of 1994, also known as the Biden Crime Law, and the landmark Violence Against Women Act of 1994 (VAWA), which contains a broad array of measures to combat domestic violence and provides billions of dollars in federal funds to address gender-based crimes. In 2000, the Supreme Court ruled that the section of VAWA allowing a federal civil remedy for victims of gender-motivated violence exceeded Congress' authority and therefore was unconstitutional.[17] Congress reauthorized VAWA in 2000 and 2005.[18] In March 2004, Biden enlisted major American technology companies in diagnosing the problems of the Austin, Texas-based National Domestic Violence Hotline, and to donate equipment and expertise to it.[19][16]"
Well... he will probably get Biden's as a result...
Are you saying Biden would have voted for McCain if he wasn't selected as Obama's Veep?
Thats not saying a lot about either man.
clambake
08-28-2008, 12:38 PM
What do you think is the best things Biden brings to the Democratic ticket?
well.........he's white.
DarkReign
08-28-2008, 12:58 PM
^ funny, yes
True, no.
DarkReign
08-28-2008, 01:03 PM
a douche? He is the reason we have the Violence Against Women's Act - which is responsible for reducing the severity of a lot of the domestic violence in this country and making it a lot easier for women to get out of violent situations.
Youre a Democrat. We get it, ok?
But Biden is about the least interesting VP pick in my lifetime (well, maybe Gore).
First off, the VP is about the least important position in the White House....until the President dies in office (then its the most important). So really, what he "brings" to the table in terms of experience/leadership/etc mean about dick-all. The only thing the VP pick should bring at this stage of the game is votes and judging by the lukewarm reponse to Biden, Im not even sure that douche did that correctly.
Supergirl
08-28-2008, 01:09 PM
Youre a Democrat. We get it, ok?
But Biden is about the least interesting VP pick in my lifetime (well, maybe Gore).
First off, the VP is about the least important position in the White House....until the President dies in office (then its the most important). So really, what he "brings" to the table in terms of experience/leadership/etc mean about dick-all. The only thing the VP pick should bring at this stage of the game is votes and judging by the lukewarm reponse to Biden, Im not even sure that douche did that correctly.
Actually, they were just discussing on NPR yesterday how the VP position has become increasingly more important because that person has a lot of authority and ability to negotiate with Congress. Cheney was a very significant VP; one could argue he was effectively running the country. Gore was actually a big policy-man behind the scenes from his VP position.
Part of the analysis yesterday was that from this perspective, Biden is a strong pick, because he has a long history of being very persuasive and influential in the Senate, and this will come in handy when he is negotiating from the VP position.
DarkReign
08-28-2008, 01:17 PM
Actually, they were just discussing on NPR yesterday how the VP position has become increasingly more important because that person has a lot of authority and ability to negotiate with Congress. Cheney was a very significant VP; one could argue he was effectively running the country. Gore was actually a big policy-man behind the scenes from his VP position.
Part of the analysis yesterday was that from this perspective, Biden is a strong pick, because he has a long history of being very persuasive and influential in the Senate, and this will come in handy when he is negotiating from the VP position.
Why am I surprised NPR waxes glowingly about the Dem VP? Hmm...
As an aside, about Cheney, Bush was, is and always will be a puppet for the Ultra-Conservative agenda. I always thought so, I will always think so and recent history and future hindsight will do nothing but strengthen that notion.
A man who cant make his way through a Dr Seuss book without stumbling and bumbling his way through it won the public office that demands the most public appearances in all the world.
He then went on to set every Presidential record for least amount of public speeches, most vacation and highest deficit spending.
Hes a stooge. A tool. A likable, "aw shucks!" Southern moron who could play the Poor Man's Fiddle to the American public who were (predictably) dooped into thinking this Southern-fried idiot could run the country. The man couldnt run a lemonade stand much less a country.
Cheney was the real brains, but he was unelectable...the guy scares people, ok? Children think he smells funny and when you start to actually embrace the nickname "Darth Cheney", you know your administration is up to some devious, deceitful shit.
Maybe I give Cheney too much credit. Maybe he was just a liaison to the real power behind this President. I dont know.
Cheney is a terrible example of a VP's relevance to government, IMO, for the above stated reasons. I am guessing you would agree that Bush will end up ranking as one of the worst Presidents in this country's history, yes?
Then why would you use that tool, that puppet as a benchmark for Vice Presidential relevance one term later?!
IceColdBrewski
08-28-2008, 01:22 PM
Was it just me, or did he sound a little drunk last nite when he gave his speech?
Supergirl
08-28-2008, 02:01 PM
Why am I surprised NPR waxes glowingly about the Dem VP? Hmm...
You know, this is just silly.
NPR is about the most unbiased news source out there. The fact that people routinely think it is both too conservative and too liberal, depending on their own viewpoint, is evidence of this.
You know, this is just silly.
NPR is about the most unbiased news source out there. The fact that people routinely think it is both too conservative and too liberal, depending on their own viewpoint, is evidence of this.
Huh?
Ive NEVER heard anyone claim it was too conservative......its often compared with the NYT for being too liberal, but anyone who claims that it is too conservative would have to be on the FAR left side.
2centsworth
08-28-2008, 04:17 PM
Why am I surprised NPR waxes glowingly about the Dem VP? Hmm...
As an aside, about Cheney, Bush was, is and always will be a puppet for the Ultra-Conservative agenda. I always thought so, I will always think so and recent history and future hindsight will do nothing but strengthen that notion.
A man who cant make his way through a Dr Seuss book without stumbling and bumbling his way through it won the public office that demands the most public appearances in all the world.
He then went on to set every Presidential record for least amount of public speeches, most vacation and highest deficit spending.
Hes a stooge. A tool. A likable, "aw shucks!" Southern moron who could play the Poor Man's Fiddle to the American public who were (predictably) dooped into thinking this Southern-fried idiot could run the country. The man couldnt run a lemonade stand much less a country.
Cheney was the real brains, but he was unelectable...the guy scares people, ok? Children think he smells funny and when you start to actually embrace the nickname "Darth Cheney", you know your administration is up to some devious, deceitful shit.
Maybe I give Cheney too much credit. Maybe he was just a liaison to the real power behind this President. I dont know.
Cheney is a terrible example of a VP's relevance to government, IMO, for the above stated reasons. I am guessing you would agree that Bush will end up ranking as one of the worst Presidents in this country's history, yes?
Then why would you use that tool, that puppet as a benchmark for Vice Presidential relevance one term later?!
that's a funny post:toast (I'm not being a wise ass neither)
Nbadan
08-28-2008, 06:04 PM
I think Biden scares the hell out of Republicans....It's like Obama is saying, yeah bitches...assassinate me and you get Biden....
Supergirl
08-28-2008, 06:13 PM
Huh?
Ive NEVER heard anyone claim it was too conservative......its often compared with the NYT for being too liberal, but anyone who claims that it is too conservative would have to be on the FAR left side.
If you listen to NPR, they routinely get calls from people who criticize their analysis for being too "conservative" - as well as from people who criticize their analysis for being too "liberal."
What it shows is that if you present actual balanced, objective information to people with strong views on both sides of a position, people on both sides will perceive the coverage as being biased against them.
By the way, this phenomenon has been well documented in psych studies over the years.
Wild Cobra
08-28-2008, 06:17 PM
He's not Hillary and he's a demonrat respected by the libtards. Ton's of name recognition.
Nbadan
08-28-2008, 07:49 PM
He's not on McCain's ticket.......
republicans know mccain is in bad health and palin will be that stooge?
noungsb
08-30-2008, 07:38 PM
Anyone who will badmouth NPR simply has not listened to it - or is just playing the 'I gotcha' game.
Wild Cobra
08-30-2008, 08:31 PM
Anyone who will badmouth NPR simply has not listened to it - or is just playing the 'I gotcha' game.
Well, NPR is rather biased. They do from time to time have accurate reporting, but it's mostly biased.
Yes, I listen to it from time to time. They are not as bad as the Alphabet News Networks.
efrem1
08-31-2008, 02:00 AM
Biden advocated the partition of Iraq (from the New York Times):
"The Biden-Gelb plan, proposed in spring of 2006, was the first to call for “decentralizing Iraq.”
“You make federalism work for the Iraqis,” Mr. Biden said. “You give them control over the fabric of their daily lives. You separate the parties. You give them breathing room. Let them control their local police, their education, their religion and marriage — the very things they’re fighting over.”
For such an advocate of centralized power and liberal rulings like Roe v. Wade, Mr. Biden offers a hypocritical solution to the problem. Typical liberal!!
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