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Thunder Dan
08-29-2008, 07:12 AM
Honestly, without getting everyone riled up as to what side you are on, isn't lack of experience something of a virtue at this point? I mean it's the career politicians that are the people most out of touch with reality in middle class America- wouldn't someone that spent time around middle class people be better than someone who has spent their time passing laws and learning the system?

I'm truly undecided right now, but I see al these McCain ads and all he attacks is Obama's lack of experience- but I see that as a strength in my eyes and wondered if anyone else felt like that. I've always wished that they could just get some regular guy, who was well educated, capable of making decisions and Independent among all issues, as our President- I think that would be better than some guy that learned how to be a politician. I mean this country is set up as such that everyone has a shot at government, and it would probably be better off if these crooked career politicians were out of their offices, but if anyone ran against them, they would make the public aware and fearful of their lack of experience. I'm rambling now, but am I the only one who see it like this?

JoeChalupa
08-29-2008, 07:43 AM
Experience counts but I don't see it as the critical point of any candidate. Too much experience can lead to doing things the say way due to that experience. The world is a never changing place. There are other aspects to consider than just how much experience one has.

spurster
08-29-2008, 08:41 AM
Where does McCain have more experience except being a senator for a long time?

clambake
08-29-2008, 08:46 AM
mccain: "I was a POW!!!!"

cindy mccain: "I was born!!!!"

Oh, Gee!!
08-29-2008, 09:18 AM
I wonder if any potus had prior experience of being a president of any country b4 being potus.

Mr. Peabody
08-29-2008, 09:37 AM
I wonder if any potus had prior experience of being a president of any country b4 being potus.

Wasn't Bush the president of the Republic of Texas for a short period of time?

Thunder Dan
08-29-2008, 10:13 AM
Wasn't Bush the president of the Republic of Texas for a short period of time?

he was president of the Texas Rangers wasn't he? That should count for something because he managed them really well

Mr. Peabody
08-29-2008, 10:19 AM
he was president of the Texas Rangers wasn't he? That should count for something because he managed them really well

Didn't they trade Sammy Sosa on his watch..?

Oh, Gee!!
08-29-2008, 10:20 AM
Didn't they trade Sammy Sosa on his watch..?

prolly for a watch too!!

Wild Cobra
08-29-2008, 12:24 PM
Where does McCain have more experience except being a senator for a long time?

He was in charge of a lage number or soldiers for some time while he still served. He did other high profile jobs. He has executive experience.

ChumpDumper
08-29-2008, 12:28 PM
He was in charge of a lage number or soldiers for some time while he still served.How many?
He did other high profile jobs.Which ones?

Thunder Dan
08-29-2008, 01:40 PM
Didn't they trade Sammy Sosa on his watch..?

I don't know much about the Rangers, but if a Rangers fan could answer this. I'm assuming if his career in baseball is anything like his career in politics, he probably traded away all the young prospects and killed (not literally (this isn't exactly like his politics)) the farm system


He was in charge of a lage number or soldiers for some time while he still served. He did other high profile jobs. He has executive experience.
and that equates to being a good president?

Hugh Hefner and Larry Flint have run successful businesses, are they experienced enough?

Mr. Peabody
08-29-2008, 01:42 PM
I don't know much about the Rangers, but if a Rangers fan could answer this. I'm assuming if his career in baseball is anything like his career in politics, he probably traded away all the young prospects and killed (not literally (this isn't exactly like his politics)) the farm system


"None of my committee members are up for trade. Our (presidential) team is clicking on all cylinders, and I know how trades can turn out. I'm the one who traded Sammy Sosa to the Chicago White Sox!"

Anti.Hero
08-29-2008, 01:46 PM
That's a good question....


"Today, John McCain put the former mayor of a town of 9,000 with zero foreign policy experience a heartbeat away from the presidency," Obama spokesman Bill Burton said in a statement.

Wild Cobra
08-29-2008, 02:29 PM
and that equates to being a good president?

Please show me where I indicated that. I don't like his politics. I was specifically stating experience and qualification. Not good or bad!



Hugh Hefner and Larry Flint have run successful businesses, are they experienced enough?

Yes, they have executive experience. Either of them would know what to do with the presidency better than Nobama!

DisgruntledLionFan#54,927
08-29-2008, 02:47 PM
It's a non-issue for me.

I don't think any job prepares you to be the President, save maybe VP.

Mr. Peabody
08-29-2008, 02:47 PM
Yes, they have executive experience. Either of them would know what to do with the presidency better than Nobama!

Either you're talking out of your ass or you're an idiot. I know you're not an idiot, so you are talking out of your ass.

angel_luv
08-29-2008, 03:00 PM
Hugh Hefner and Larry Flint have run successful businesses, are they experienced enough?

:lol Hugh would be the first president to have three First Ladies.

JoeChalupa
08-29-2008, 03:02 PM
I think Obama has what it takes to be President.

Mr. Peabody
08-29-2008, 03:02 PM
:lol Hugh would be the first president to have three First Ladies.

Maybe Bill Clinton and John Edwards could have a cabinet post in that kind of administration.

Secretary of Bikini Inspection
Undersecretary of Bra Verfication

Hook Dem
08-29-2008, 05:42 PM
mccain: "I was a POW!!!!"

cindy mccain: "I was born!!!!"

Obama: I am a muslim-therefore qualified

Mr. Peabody
08-29-2008, 05:45 PM
Obama: I am a muslim-therefore qualified

Would being a Muslim necessarily make you unqualified?

I don't get your comment....

SnakeBoy
08-29-2008, 05:55 PM
Would being a Muslim necessarily make you unqualified?


Yes.

ChumpDumper
08-29-2008, 06:08 PM
But he's not a Muslim anyway.

Mr. Peabody
08-29-2008, 06:11 PM
But he's not a Muslim anyway.

I know, but it's ridiculous for these idiots to call someone a Muslim as if it's should necessarily carry a negative connotation. It's only a smear because people are morons.

bobbyjoe
08-29-2008, 06:54 PM
Thunder Dan,

I've always felt the same way. Our political system is obviously just a big old F up. Controlled by lobbyists, executed by politicians who are in most cases shady or slimy at best, corrupt in the worst. Marred with antiquated rules which stifle true debate and postive discourse. Excessive pandering to special interest groups by both sides.

I'm of the opinion the longer you are in an environment as flawed as the US political system, the more indoctrinated you become in the slime and sleaze that unfortunately define it. From this sense, I could just as easily argue that more experience in Washington is just a bad thing. I really think this is why Obama is in a position to actually be President. Many tired of the same old ,same old. Let's try to find someone who hasn't been corrupted yet. Perot seemed on the verge of pulling it off sometime back...

AFBlue
08-29-2008, 10:22 PM
Knowing how to play the game and playing the game are two different things.

Like it or not, no one candidate is going to get into office and "change Washington". Sure, there will be some different initiatives that are pressed based on the candidate elected, but there's actually a better likelihood of that taking place if the person knows how the game is played.

Experience in Washington D.C. does count for something. Having said that, picking a candidate with fresh ideas that can work with the system to get things accomplished counts for much more.

I honestly think both McCain and Obama have the ability to work within the system to get major components of their agendas/platforms pushed through.

Nbadan
08-30-2008, 12:13 AM
Wow, just WOW...