Gustav : McCain looks presidential

[MannyIsGod]

I have to admit, he's playing this as perfectly as possible. Right now people are going to think of Obama having a gigantic party while McCain is having charity drives and focusing on Gustav. He's going to look far more presidential out of this. This may be far better than any convention could ever be.

[Mr. Body]

He's banking on it being very destructive.

[MannyIsGod]

No - I don't think so. He's banking on it looking like he gives a damn. I mean com'on, wtf is McCain going to do to help those people? He's not going to fly down there and build levees. He can't stop the storm. He's the senator of Arizona, not a Gulf Coast state.

But that doesn't matter because the big story now is how he may not even show. It doesn't matter that he probably wont' be doing shit thats really important, but the average joe is going to see that McCain cares about what is going on, UNLIKE Bush last time. I'm not even sure that Obama can bring up the Bush/McCain birthday from last time. The politics of what he's doing is perfect.

[Mr. Body]

It is canny, but do you think it's better than a convention? The convention looks toast, which is an amazing development. There's no star wattage in the party anymore, but having balloons drop from the ceiling and white people dancing like dorks helps go a ways, not to mention the constant talk the networks provide. McCain already showed up at the floods in the Midwest earlier in the year and this may not help him any more than that did. Does it overcome memories of Katrina?

[GuerillaBlack]

I have to admit, he's playing this as perfectly as possible. Right now people are going to think of Obama having a gigantic party while McCain is having charity drives and focusing on Gustav. He's going to look far more presidential out of this. This may be far better than any convention could ever be.

You probably didn't see this:

Obama to Enlist Supporters for Gustav Aid

August 31, 2008, 12:57 pm
By Jeff Zeleny
http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/08/31/obama-to-enlists-supporters-for-gustav-aid/

TOLEDO, Ohio – Senator Barack Obama said Sunday that his campaign would mobilize its giant email list of supporters – to volunteer or send contributions – as soon as the impact of Hurricane Gustav becomes known in the Gulf Coast.

“We can activate an email list of a couple million people who want to give back,” Mr. Obama told reporters after leaving services at St. Luke’s Lutheran Church in Lima. “I think we can get tons of volunteers to travel down there if it becomes necessary.”

Mr. Obama has made no plans to travel to the Gulf Coast, saying he does not want to get in the way of emergency efforts there, but he has spoken by telephone to Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal, Senator Mary Landrieu of Louisiana and New Orleans Mayor Ray Nagin.

Mr. Obama conducted telephone interviews with four TV stations and a news-talk radio station in New Orleans, aides said, amplifying the warning for any remaining residents to follow the evacuation order and leave the city.

Asked whether he believed it was appropriate for Senator John McCain to travel to the Gulf Coast, Mr. Obama said: “A big storm like this raises bipartisan concerns and I think for John to want to find out what’s going on is fine.” (President Bush and Vice President Cheney have canceled their Monday night appearances at the convention.)

“The thing that I always am concerned about in the middle of a storm,” Mr. Obama said, “is whether we’re drawing resources away from folks on the ground because the Secret Service and various security requirements sometimes it pulls police, fire and other departments away from concentrating on the job.”

He added, “I’m assuming that where he went that wasn’t an issue. We’re going to try to stay clear of the area until things have settled down and then we’ll probably try to figure out how we can be as helpful as possible.”

Mr. Obama and his running mate, Senator Joseph R. Biden Jr. of Delaware, are campaigning together in Ohio and Michigan before parting ways to travel separately on Labor Day.

[MannyIsGod]

Doesn't matter. Obama isn't going to get the coverage for that the way McCain is because McCain is the one having a convention.

[Mr. Body]

Obama doesn't get the coverage McCain does because the broadcast media are "his base."

This is no different, but it might be an awkward week for him, anyway.

[Nbadan]

Obama doesn't get the coverage McCain does because the broadcast media are "his base."

:toast

I have to admit, I've been impressed by Mr. Body and The Professor lately.

[Nbadan]

Also, some might say that McCain is being a opportunists from a bad situation...I guess it all depends on your perception....

[boutons_]

Is McFlummoxed still going to fly down there and use up resources and get in the way?

What party is HUSSEIN having?

Neither candidate is responsible for anything that happens on the Gulf Coast, can do nothing about it, unlike dubya and his compromised/politicized FEMA.

Repugs cancel one day of the convention partying, BFD. The real Gulf Coast misery starts on Tue, just like the Repug partying.

[IceColdBrewski]

Also, some might say that McCain is being a opportunists from a bad situation...I guess it all depends on your perception....

Both candidates will do everything they can to benefit politically from it. But since McCain and the repub convention will be dominating the news...advantage McCain.

[MaNuMaNiAc]

Also, some might say that McCain is being a opportunists from a bad situation...I guess it all depends on your perception....

If that's your perception, then you're the one with the problem. Would you rather he did nothing? WTF??

[Nbadan]

Yeah, I'd rather he stay out of the way of emergency aid and relief workers

[GuerillaBlack]

Yeah, I'd rather he stay out of the way of emergency aid and relief workers

what Obama is doing.

[boutons_]

Gustav is a great pretext to scuttle the Repug NC, as they couldn't have possibly come anywhere near the success of the Demver.

McSillyStupid is claiming he's now an American!! not a Repug, because of Gustav. He's now above partisan politics. The guy is a fucking senile, bone-head.

He has NO ROLE to play in Gustav. Does he plan to commandeer FEMA?

It's all political dog-and-pony show, insulting the average non-Repug American's intelligence, the Repug's themselves going for this kind of trivial, hypocritical bullshit.

[timvp]

http://a.abcnews.com/images/Entertainment/ht_Kanye_West_070912_ssh.jpg
John McCain cares about black people!

[AFBlue]

Obama doesn't get the coverage McCain does because the broadcast media are "his base."

This is no different, but it might be an awkward week for him, anyway.

Are you seriously suggesting that the MSM has a bias toward John McCain?!?!?

That's laughable.


I do think they like McCain, but Obama is just as much of a media darling...if not more.

In this election I think you'll get a decent amount of coverage for both.

[Cant_Be_Faded]

Doesn't matter. Obama isn't going to get the coverage for that the way McCain is because McCain is the one having a convention.

What I don't get about this take is that McCain was consistently in the media (not as much as Obama but covered) every day along the road of the Dimmo-Convention. Every day he released some new attack ad or slogan that made the news.

Now

Why is it so impossible for Obama to do the same? It seems that the Dimmo's complete incompetence in campaigning is completely ingrained into our brains.

[JoeChalupa]

I agree this is an advantage for McCan but I also don't think it will make him look all that presidential since we all know this is a direct response to the mishandling of Katrina...and this is ALL the way around from the Mayor, the Governor to President Bush. Live and learn. And yes, I know that the Mayor and the previous Gov of LA are/were democrats.

[Mr. Body]

What I don't get about this take is that McCain was consistently in the media (not as much as Obama but covered) every day along the road of the Dimmo-Convention. Every day he released some new attack ad or slogan that made the news.

Now

Why is it so impossible for Obama to do the same? It seems that the Dimmo's complete incompetence in campaigning is completely ingrained into our brains.

Obama is much more disciplined. After a quick lash at Palin from his campaign, Obama shut it down post haste. He's staying out of NOLA because it's the sane, proper thing to do.

McCain's flailing around. Never interrupt your oppenent when he's drowning.

[Mr. Body]

Losing the Republican Convention is a big blow. But I think it was a conscious decision - it couldn't look or feel anything like the DNC in Denver. This was just an excuse.

[boutons_]

"Gustav : McCain looks presidential" is bullshit.
Gustav is not the game-changer, like that nasty bitch Palin is not the game-changer, that McConfused is desperately reaching for to save his failing campaign.

[Murphy]

gallup has obama up by 6. Zogby has mcaine/palin up by two. Cnn has obama up by one. its on drudge

[possessed]

Also, some might say that McCain is being a opportunists from a bad situation...I guess it all depends on your perception....

Yeah those people are called Democrats and those kind of comments make them look like huge assholes. They never miss a chance to put their foot in their mouths.

[boutons_]

McSame's dog-and-pony show for Gustav won't overcome the millstones of the cratering economy and the unending war-for-Iraq-forever millstones around the Repugs' necks.

[possessed]

McSame's dog-and-pony show for Gustav won't overcome the millstones of the cratering economy and the unending war-for-Iraq-forever millstones around the Repugs' necks.

The polls certainly reflect that, don't they? :lol

[Mr. Body]

Are you seriously suggesting that the MSM has a bias toward John McCain?!?!?

That's laughable.

He's called them "his base." They bring him donuts. He gives them barbeques. They won't touch a lot of his character flaws. Still won't.

[Mr. Peabody]

Are you seriously suggesting that the MSM has a bias toward John McCain?!?!?

That's laughable.

I don't know about "laughable."



Link (http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-na-onthemedia27-2008jul27,0,712999.story)
The Center for Media and Public Affairs at George Mason University, where researchers have tracked network news content for two decades, found that ABC, NBC and CBS were tougher on Obama than on Republican John McCain during the first six weeks of the general-election campaign.

You read it right: tougher on the Democrat.

During the evening news, the majority of statements from reporters and anchors on all three networks are neutral, the center found. And when network news people ventured opinions in recent weeks, 28% of the statements were positive for Obama and 72% negative.

Network reporting also tilted against McCain, but far less dramatically, with 43% of the statements positive and 57% negative, according to the Washington-based media center.

[T Park]

The media is easy on McCain?

Huh?

[T Park]

Actually during Katrina McCain went down there, and really ripped Bush up pretty good.

I gotta admit, McCain to me now, seems like he'd be one hell of a president.

[Ignignokt]

Actually during Katrina McCain went down there, and really ripped Bush up pretty good.

I gotta admit, McCain to me now, seems like he'd be one hell of a president.

This is why america is ignorant.

One man can't help.

Obama did the correct thing and let the relief workers and govt do its job. Just like bush did.

Who cares if it turned into a political issue.

We should not dumb ourselves down and expect the same outcomes.

[boutons_]

"one hell of a president."

McSame is struggling hard NOT to be like the current hellish president.

He fails, Old McSame is that same old failed shit as dubya.

[T Park]

I hate america I hate america I hate america, I love when a hurricane destroys American.

Got it.

[Mr. Body]

McCain might have been a good president at one point. This is not the same man.

[T Park]

McCain might have been a good president at one point. This is not the same man.

?
:lol

How has he changed genius?

[Buddy Holly]

?
:lol

How has he changed genius?

http://www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com/archives/9111.html


McCain used to oppose Bush’s tax cuts for the very wealthy, but he reversed course in February.

In 2000, McCain accused Texas businessmen Sam and Charles Wyly of being corrupt, spending “dirty money” to help finance Bush’s presidential campaign. McCain not only filed a complaint against the Wylys for allegedly violating campaign finance law, he also lashed out at them publicly. In April, McCain reached out to the Wylys for support.

McCain supported a major campaign-finance reform measure that bore his name. In June, he abandoned his own legislation.

McCain used to think that Grover Norquist was a crook and a corrupt shill for dictators. Then McCain got serious about running for president and began to reconcile with Norquist.

McCain took a firm line in opposition to torture, and then caved to White House demands.

McCain gave up on his signature policy issue, campaign-finance reform, and won’t back the same provision he sponsored just a couple of years ago.

McCain was against presidential candidates campaigning at Bob Jones University before he was for it.

McCain was anti-ethanol. Now he’s pro-ethanol.

McCain was both for and against state promotion of the Confederate flag.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Manny should rename this the Spurstalk liberals panic about McCain and Gustav thread.

The meltdown's been fun to read.

[MannyIsGod]

Boutons posts were really fun.

[01.20.09]

The whole arguement about McCain "looking presidential" is getting old. Literally.

[smeagol]

McSame


McFlummoxed


McSillyStupid

How old are you again?