Duncan's Hennessey Supercharged Challenger (Nearly 500 rwhp)

[duncan228]

It sounds good. :)

Tim Duncan's Hennessey Challenger HPE600 SC on the Chassis Dyno

http://www.motorator.com/videos/417

Description:
Hennessey Performance recently built a supercharged Dodge Challenger for 2-time NBA MVP, Tim Duncan of the San Antonio Spurs. Here is his car on the dyno making nearly 500 rwhp

[Solid D]

Great. Samurai swords and now this. Tim sure is boring.

[thispego]

does duncan really need to go that fast?

[duncan228]

Great. Samurai swords and now this. Tim sure is boring.

He bores me to tears. :)

[Brutalis]

Do that another 5 times and he'll need an oil change already.

[duncan228]

does duncan really need to go that fast?

Maybe, maybe not. But he's a boy with enough money to buy the toys. :)

[duncan228]

The car:

http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x282/duncan228/temp/challenger.jpg

http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x282/duncan228/temp/challenger2.jpg

[ShoogarBear]

Sweet colors. :tu

[Man In Black]

I'm irked.

At the end of the clip, they thanked Tim of the San Antonio Suprs.
Unreal, don't people proof read anymore?

[duncan228]

I'm irked.

At the end of the clip, they thanked Tim of the San Antonio Suprs.
Unreal, don't people proof read anymore?

I'm amazed at how many errors get by. I hold myself back from correcting articles. :lol

Hennessey also used a really old picture of him in their customer section. I guess it was put together fast.

[Brutalis]

6 liter?

I guess gas prices don't bother Timmy!

[phyzik]

I've wanted one of those new challengers since they showed the concept. Gas prices be damned. Good choice Timmy.

[cool hand]

nice fucking car. those challenger are cool. 6.1 liter hemi.......shit.

but the camaros are going to be better.

[1Parker1]

Yes, I'm sure Tim Duncan is really worried about rising gas prices...:lol

[tlongII]

Did they take the back seat out so he can move the driver's seat back further?

[BacktoBasics]

nice fucking car. those challenger are cool. 6.1 liter hemi.......shit.

but the camaros are going to be better.
Not a chance and I'm a Camaro guy. The Challenger is going to compete with the Vette and the Camaro will bury Chargers and Mustangs.

I had a chance to get up close with the new Hemi model and I can tell you first hand they nailed it right on the head. Its classic lines are pure musclecar perfection. The power will easily eclipse a typical vette and the Hemi will challenge the Z models.

Although I love the new Camaro they definitly take some older designs and bring it up to new styling standards where the Challenger is more classic in approach.

Both cars are going to fucking rock but the Challenger will own a Camaro completely across the board. Performance wise. If you simply like the style of the Camaro then so be it you can't control personal preference but the real numbers won't compare.

[Obstructed_View]

I had a chance to get up close with the new Hemi model and I can tell you first hand they nailed it right on the head. Its classic lines are pure musclecar perfection. The power will easily eclipse a typical vette and the Hemi will challenge the Z models.

:lol Sorry, but if you're a Camaro guy as you claim, then you need to do your homework. The Camaro's going to be 300 lbs less and have roughly the same horsepower.

The "non-Hemi" Challenger is a V6 that makes ~250 hp and might challenge my 20 year old bone-stock 5.0 Mustang.

The standard C6 Corvette has 5 more horses and weighs a thousand pounds less than the Challenger. The Z model weighs 100 lbs less than the standard 'vette and make 505 HP. The Challenger is a nice car, but even Timmy's car would probably be smoked by most 'vettes in anything but a straight line.

[benefactor]

:lol Sorry, but if you're a Camaro guy as you claim, then you need to do your homework. The Camaro's going to be 300 lbs less and have roughly the same horsepower.

The "non-Hemi" Challenger is a V6 that makes ~250 hp and might challenge my 20 year old bone-stock 5.0 Mustang.

The standard C6 Corvette has 5 more horses and weighs a thousand pounds less than the Challenger. The Z model weighs 100 lbs less than the standard 'vette and make 505 HP. The Challenger is a nice car, but even Timmy's car would probably be smoked by most 'vettes in anything but a straight line.
But isnt that what we are talking about when we talk about muscle cars anyway? No one really cares about how the Challenger corners...they just want to blow the tires off of it and run it straight down a quarter mile as fast as possible. But I will have to agree...overall the top of the line Vettes and Camaros will be faster.

That being said...I feel like this car screams throwback muscle car more than any other one of the market. I only wish they could have called it the Plymouth Barracuda. :king

[BacktoBasics]

The actual SRT-8 engine expected for 2009 models may hit the mid-400s in horsepower. Right now they're saying 425 compared to 417 for the Camaro.

HP doesn't always mean faster trap times.

Its being speculated that the 1/4 time for the Camaro will be upper 13's to mid 13's.

6.1 Hemi is running low 13's and upper 12's.

The Vette has a 1/4 time of 11.7

I would suspect if the line is successful we'll times in the low 12's. Thats a lot closer to Vette than the Camaro will be.

[BacktoBasics]

Thats a Zo6 Vette trap time too. The Hemi numbers will line up with a run of the mill Vette any day. Which is who they are going after.

[BlackBellamy]

Great. Samurai swords and now this. Tim sure is boring.

Not to mention being a 7 footer from the Virgin Islands that plays Dungeons & Dragons. Between purchasing swords, muscle cars and D & D most indication would show Tim smokes some mad reefers. Stoic temper, laughs on the bench a lot, the infamous afro ... I could be wrong.

[duncan228]

Did they take the back seat out so he can move the driver's seat back further?

I assume they did something, the seat has been adjusted in other cars he's owned. I haven't found those kinds of specifics yet for this one.

[Obstructed_View]

The actual SRT-8 engine expected for 2009 models may hit the mid-400s in horsepower. Right now they're saying 425 compared to 417 for the Camaro.

HP doesn't always mean faster trap times.

Agreed. The Camaro is lighter, and will run through a manual gearbox, which is typically more efficient than the triptronic auto that the Dodge has. I had a 2004 Mach 1 that had relatively low HP but I beat a lot of cars with more power at the track.


Its being speculated that the 1/4 time for the Camaro will be upper 13's to mid 13's.

6.1 Hemi is running low 13's and upper 12's.
In the test I saw, the Challenger ran a 13.3, which is comparable with my 265 RWHP Mach. The 2008 Corvette coupe with the Z51 package ran a 12.5@115, which are C5 Z06 numbers. Again, Timmy's Challenger might come close, but the extra weight puts it at a huge disadvantage. The stock one would lose by several car lengths.

I think the Challenger and Camaro are both awesome cars, and as a Mustang guy I wish Ford was doing something remotely close with the Mustangs rather than putting outdated superchargers and a crook's name on them. I just don't buy into Hemi-hysteria. It's not sensible to blow those other cars up to something they clearly aren't, and what they aren't is in the same league as the Corvettes.

[Obstructed_View]

I assume they did something, the seat has been adjusted in other cars he's owned. I haven't found those kinds of specifics yet for this one.

Usually all they have to do is move the seat brackets back. Some seat brackets have an extra set of holes from the factory to make them easier to move back for tall drivers.

[BacktoBasics]

Do you run your Mustang at the track?

I've been wanting to make another trip to Marion but haven't had the time. I'd like to put my Corvette on the track but I need steering and suspension before I toss it out there.

[Obstructed_View]

Do you run your Mustang at the track?

I've been wanting to make another trip to Marion but haven't had the time. I'd like to put my Corvette on the track but I need steering and suspension before I toss it out there.

My 5.0 hasn't been to the track, but it's going to be really slow when I go. It's a stock '90 LX hatch with an automatic. I like it more than any car I've ever had, but I have no illusions that it could crack 9 seconds in the 1/8 mile. I'm definitely not going to beat on it like I did the Mach, at least until I can get a lot of stuff updated on it. I live in Dallas so I've got a lot of tracks to go to.

[century]

All that dough and he gets a POS Chrysler!!! I'm embarrassed for him. A black LP640 would be more
like it...

[BacktoBasics]

I love those Mustangs. I owned a 90 GT about a decade ago. Funniest car I've ever driven. I put a ton of money into it but could never get it down under 12.7's. I ran a 98 Camaro for the longest time then got out completely. I picked up the Vette in January as a second daily driver. Its older 79 so its more of a project.

I'll be looking for a 69-70 Mach 1 or 67-69 Camaro once next summer roles around.

I also got a 71 Ford F-100 Custom I've torn completely down. Its my long term project....5-6 years out.

[Obstructed_View]

I also got a 71 Ford F-100 Custom I've torn completely down. Its my long term project....5-6 years out.

My favorite vehicle of all time. My grandfather had one. PM me pics of that.

[BacktoBasics]

My favorite vehicle of all time. My grandfather had one. PM me pics of that.

Just got past the tear down. Gonna epoxy primer the frame and start from scratch. Upgrade to power steering and front disk brakes. Hopefully we'll see a 351 and 5 speed in it. I'm not going to completely hotrod it more like a daily driver with balls. The last picture is what I have in mind as far as stance and style even though its a different year.

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y280/BishopRyan/1elite001.jpg

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y280/BishopRyan/1elite007.jpg

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y280/BishopRyan/1elite005.jpg

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y280/BishopRyan/1elite002.jpg

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y280/BishopRyan/1elite003.jpg

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y280/BishopRyan/1elite009.jpg

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y280/BishopRyan/1elite011.jpg

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y280/BishopRyan/1elite2017.jpg

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y280/BishopRyan/1elite2015.jpg

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y280/BishopRyan/DSC08104.jpg

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y280/BishopRyan/DSC08105.jpg

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y280/BishopRyan/196620ford20pickup20005.jpg

[Brutalis]

The power will easily eclipse a typical vette and the Hemi will challenge the Z models.

:lmao :lmao

[BacktoBasics]

:lmao :lmaoRun of the mill Corvette puts out 400hp

425hp for the Hemi Challenger. You didn't read the whole thread.

[Obstructed_View]

Run of the mill Corvette puts out 400hp

425hp for the Hemi Challenger. You didn't read the whole thread.

I think the standard engine on the new Corvettes is 430 HP.

[BacktoBasics]

I think the standard engine on the new Corvettes is 430 HP.I just looked I based the figure off a 2007.

[duncan228]

All that dough and he gets a POS Chrysler!!! I'm embarrassed for him. A black LP640 would be more
like it...

He's had plenty of other cars since he hit money, including a Porsche Carrera that he bought overseas from a factory and had shipped home. I'm sure he buys anything he wants and like he's shown us over the years, he's not about impressing anyone.

[duncan228]

The last picture is what I have in mind as far as stance and style even though its a different year.

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y280/BishopRyan/196620ford20pickup20005.jpg

Is this a '65? Can't see the back so I can't tell.

[Obstructed_View]

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y280/BishopRyan/196620ford20pickup20005.jpg

Very nice. The '64 is my second favorite.

This topic now officially has nothing to do with the Spurs anymore.

[Obstructed_View]

Is this a '65? Can't see the back so I can't tell.

It's a '66.

[Obstructed_View]

I just looked I based the figure off a 2007.

Yeah they made a big leap. The 'vettes get a little more world class with each new model. My favorite is the C3. I don't care if they're slow.

[duncan228]

It's a '66.

Thanks.

[Al Bundy]

The car:

http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x282/duncan228/temp/challenger.jpg

gotta love a dodge...does it come in rusted out brown?

[BacktoBasics]

Yeah they made a big leap. The 'vettes get a little more world class with each new model. My favorite is the C3. I don't care if they're slow.Thats why I bought my 79'. Its a built 350 using a 73 camaro block. Just a little bit more powerful that the stock stuff but I'm not blowing the doors off anything.

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y280/BishopRyan/corvette002.jpg

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y280/BishopRyan/corvette004.jpg

still working out some wiring under the hood.

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y280/BishopRyan/corvette2002.jpg

[benefactor]

Thats pretty sweet B2B...That has always been my favorite body style of Vette. Its kind of that in between style that bridges the old stingrays and what we had in the early 90's.

[hater]

what a redneck

[MoSpur]

Good choice Tim. That's a sick looking car.

[T Park]

I like the Challenger, but I gotta vote for the new Camaro.

[Obstructed_View]

Just got past the tear down. Gonna epoxy primer the frame and start from scratch. Upgrade to power steering and front disk brakes. Hopefully we'll see a 351 and 5 speed in it. I'm not going to completely hotrod it more like a daily driver with balls. The last picture is what I have in mind as far as stance and style even though its a different year.

So it's a short bed with a straight six and a 9" rear. That's a stump puller. No trim, so it's not a Ranger, right? Glad someone put that tape deck in there while they were letting it rust. Did you know that there's a law on the books that old Ford trucks with bench seats have to have that woven seat cover? :lol

LOVE the 'vette. Saw a black one just like it up here yesterday. Very cool. If I didn't need four seats for the kids I'd have considered one of those instead of the 5.0.

[mystargtr34]

Nice car.

My GTR has 417 hp at all fours. R34 Skyline. Ive never actually taken it to a drag stip but ive taken it out a couple of times to back roads we measured out the 400 ourselves :lol and i got it to about 12.4. Stock they come in at about 13.5 but thats with just 280 hp at the engine and 1500 kg

It be interesting to know what Timmy's would do down the quarter... how much do those things weigh?

[duncan228]

It be interesting to know what Timmy's would do down the quarter... how much do those things weigh?

Stock weight is 3720. I would guess Duncan's would weigh below 3500.

EDIT: I found more info.

0-60 in 3.8
Quarter mile in 11.9 with a top speed of 121mph.

Stock info:
I did find that stock SRT8 does a quarter in 13.2.


Powering the Dodge Challenger R/T is a revised 5.7-liter HEMI V-8 engine producing 370 horsepower (276 kW) with a five-speed automatic, and 375 hp (280 kW) with a six-speed manual transmission. The engines belt out 398 lb-ft (540 Nm) and 404 lb-ft (548 Nm) of torque, respectively; the Challenger R/T can do 0-60 in under six seconds, bone stock. Gas mileage is not bad given the power, with 16 mpg city, 23 highway (automatic; the manual transmission drops down to 15 city, 23 highway due to the loss of MDS, and requires premium rather than midgrade gas). The Challenger SE is rated at 18/25.

[duncan228]

Hennessey's site for more info:

http://www.hennesseyperformance.com/

http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x282/duncan228/promo/duncan_car.png

[TMAC-YAO-ARTEST]

I think the standard engine on the new Corvettes is 430 HP.

the LS3 is 430(2008), with the dual mode exhaust it is 436 and only weighs about 3200 lbs, and the LS2 is 400(2005-2007)

don't get me started on the zo6, or zr1:wow

[Obstructed_View]

Stock weight is 3720. I would guess Duncan's would weigh below 3500.
Um, no. The V6 weighs 3819#. The V8 is about 4100. Those numbers are from the website. A supercharger adds some extra weight, more if it's got an intercooler. Adding carbon fiber parts and removing extra stuff might keep it around 4000#, but that's it. You might get it below 3500 if you removed the engine, but that really screws with your timeslips.


0-60 in 3.8
Quarter mile in 11.9 with a top speed of 121mph.
That's the one with the turbo kit. Timmy's has a supercharger.


Stock info:
I did find that stock SRT8 does a quarter in 13.2.
It's funny: Edmunds ran a test of the Challenger vs. a Mustang Bullitt and the Dodge ran a 13.2 at 107.5. Then they later tested a 2009 Challenger in the same trim and it ran a 13.8 at 103. The weight didn't change between the two cars, and the difference in trap speed is significant, and is an indication of horsepower, not driver skill. My guess is that Dodge sent a ringer for the shootout. Hopefully they'll all be that quick, but I bet they won't.

[Obstructed_View]

All that dough and he gets a POS Chrysler!!! I'm embarrassed for him. A black LP640 would be more
like it...

Yeah, he could have a custom trailer built to tow him behind it, since there's no fucking way a 6'11" guy is going to be able to actually fit into the car. And forget about increasing legroom; immediately behind the seat is the firewall and the engine.

[duncan228]

You might get it below 3500 if you removed the engine, but that really screws with your timeslips.

:lol

Thanks for the fine-tuning Obstructed_View.

My interest in this is was obviously because it's Duncan's car. My knowledge of him exceeds my car knowledge by leaps and bounds. I appreciate the help.

[Obstructed_View]

:lol

Thanks for the fine-tuning Obstructed_View.

My interest in this is was obviously because it's Duncan's car. My knowledge of him exceeds my car knowledge by leaps and bounds. I appreciate the help.

Any time. It's funny that someone Googling for info on the Challenger is going to hit this thread. At least we got some of the numbers correct. :)

[TDMVPDPOY]

hey duncan maybe you can give me ur porsche

[DesignatedT]

the LS3 is 430(2008), with the dual mode exhaust it is 436 and only weighs about 3200 lbs, and the LS2 is 400(2005-2007)

don't get me started on the zo6, or zr1:wow


wow is your username serious? and what is up with the video of some scrub getting a board over duncan? like that is some accomplishment or makes him better? lol just crazy how bandwagon its starting to be...



LOL AT FN ARTEST... WOW

[century]

Yeah, he could have a custom trailer built to tow him behind it, since there's no fucking way a 6'11" guy is going to be able to actually fit into the car. And forget about increasing legroom; immediately behind the seat is the firewall and the engine.

Shaq had a Gallardo, moron.

[century]

Gotta love all the Corvette "experts" here who in reality tool around Zarzamora in their lowered Sentras with pink fake cellular antennas and $7 off-the-shelf tintjob from Pep Boys.

[BacktoBasics]

So it's a short bed with a straight six and a 9" rear. That's a stump puller. No trim, so it's not a Ranger, right? Glad someone put that tape deck in there while they were letting it rust. Did you know that there's a law on the books that old Ford trucks with bench seats have to have that woven seat cover? :lol

LOVE the 'vette. Saw a black one just like it up here yesterday. Very cool. If I didn't need four seats for the kids I'd have considered one of those instead of the 5.0.
Its a pig thats for sure. I like that its a shortbed. I'm going to gut the interior and put new up to date gauges and paint it light silver. I'll probably go with leather seats out of a run of the mill sedan and pad the doors. I'll have to relocate the gas tank to the bed because right now its behind the bench and I'd like to put in a tool box and some speakers.

You need to get some pics up of the 5.0

[Obstructed_View]

Shaq had a Gallardo, moron.

And he had it extended so he could fit in it. If you're going to act like you know something you should probably do your fucking homework.

Regular:
http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q228/GeneralPurpose/Spurstalk/gallardo-imsa3.jpg

Shaq's
http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q228/GeneralPurpose/Spurstalk/long_lambo.jpg


Shaquille O'Neal Lamborghini Gallardo SUPER-SIZED

FOUNTAIN VALLEY, Calif. — Basketball great Shaquille O'Neal got special treatment for his Lamborghini Gallardo — a stretched version thanks to Gaffoglio Family Metalcrafters, a supplier for such corporations as the Boeing Company and PPG Aerospace Glass. The longer Lambo has 12 inches added through the middle, surely a relief for the 7-foot-1-inch athlete.

The Gallardo received custom extended doors, roof and side windows. The company says it strove to maintain the car's "visual integrity" with the changes. Glass fabrication was a particular challenge, the company said. "We relied on our aerospace and coachworks divisions to make sure Shaq could fit in the car, but the naked eye could not detect any differences from the original Gallardo," Gaffoglio CEO George Gaffoglio said.

Link to another version of the same story:
http://www.autoblog.com/2007/04/30/whats-a-b-ball-player-to-do-shaq-gets-a-stretched-lambo/

[Obstructed_View]

You need to get some pics up of the 5.0
It's ugly, it's slow, but it's mine, and it's paid for. It's the first car I've ever owned outright. I got 27 mpg on my last trip out of town running AC the whole way. Notice the Adobe tint job; it has actual tint on it now. :lol
http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q228/GeneralPurpose/Cars/Mustang.jpg

[BacktoBasics]

With the right heads (I forget the brand name) and quality port job you could push it into the low 11's.

I'll never get tired of the 5.0's

[Obstructed_View]

With the right heads (I forget the brand name) and quality port job you could push it into the low 11's.

I'll never get tired of the 5.0's

There are a lot of good combinations of heads and intakes. It's an auto, and I want to keep it that way, so I have some time while I get a beefier one built up. I'm also going to do the engine last, so that the car has a solid frame, antilock four wheel disc brakes and a world class suspension before I throw more power at it. It's only got 100k miles on it so I should be able to get at least another hundred out of it. That buys me some time.

[Avitus1]

Nice ride.

[GSH]

does duncan really need to go that fast?

He needs a car that will go 200 mph... to get to work in. He'll have the largest collection of "warnings" in SA history.

BTW - do you think he has an 8-track in that thing?