McCain speech outdraws Obama and Palin

[whottt]

I don't have the exact numbers but basically the breakdown is like this:


McCain 38.9 million viewers
Obama 38.4 million viewers
Palin 37 something million viewers
Biden 21 million viewers



Nice pick on Biden Obama. :tu

[clambake]

why didn't you just ask democrats not to watch the RNC?

are you ready to call it for mccain?

[FromWayDowntown]

It's nice to have your speech preceded immediately by the game opening the NFL season, involving a team in NYC.

[Findog]

I guarantee you more Dems watched the RNC than vice versa. It's going to be a horse race in any event. It's Obama's to lose.

[baseline bum]

So I guess that makes McCain the Phoenix Suns of politics.

[Findog]

So I guess that makes McCain the Phoenix Suns of politics.

:lmao

[Gino]

So I guess that makes McCain the Phoenix Suns of politics.

Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.


:toast

[JohnnyMarzetti]

Now we know who the real celebrity is. Hypocrite.

[Cant_Be_Faded]

Yep that is proof positive the republicans are more fired up and into this election than democrats.

No way a bunch of people watched Palin because of the ruckus itself and laughed all the way to the bank after viewing it.

[whottt]

Yep that is proof positive the republicans are more fired up and into this election than democrats.

No way a bunch of people watched Palin because of the ruckus itself and laughed all the way to the bank after viewing it.


They said it drew around 19 million women and more hispanics than the DNC, and that includes the RNC not being broadcast on telemundo and Univision, while the DNC was.



I still want you guys to explain why the Democrats weren't turning in to watch their own VP candidate.



The majority of the country isn't a Republican or a Democrat...

[dg7md]

It's nice to have your speech preceded immediately by the game opening the NFL season, involving a team in NYC.

This is exactly it, by far the biggest explanation. You don't go from the fact that people just know you were tortured in Vietnam as the primary reason you should be elected, to ousting the phenomenal Obama speech in a sold out football stadium.

Surely a lot watched him, but the main reason has to do with the opening NFL season game on the same channel with two big market teams.

[wut]

wut?

I'm trying to not call you stupid, but I'm having a hard time.

1) McCain was in the House for 4 years and the Senate for 21 years. Obama was in the Illinois Senate for 8 years then US Senate for 3 year.

2) Do you know what it means to be tortured? The man can't even lift his arms over his shoulders because he was tortured so badly. Only an ignorant fool would make light of such an event.

[Anti.Hero]

Now we know who the real celebrity is. Hypocrite.

lmao at that sig

[George Gervin's Afro]

I don't have the exact numbers but basically the breakdown is like this:


McCain 38.9 million viewers
Obama 38.4 million viewers
Palin 37 something million viewers
Biden 21 million viewers



Nice pick on Biden Obama. :tu

Great win for McCain! :toast

[Duff McCartney]

I don't have the exact numbers but basically the breakdown is like this:


McCain 38.9 million viewers
Obama 38.4 million viewers
Palin 37 something million viewers
Biden 21 million viewers



Nice pick on Biden Obama. :tu

Where are you getting these statistics from then?

[whottt]

Where are you getting these statistics from then?



Just google viewership for the Republican National Convention and select news.


You will find all sorts of stuff...


Like for instance the RNC averaged 34 million viewers and the DNC ageraged 30...

26 millon watched the Clinton speeches...


Each article you read will provide you some different info.


PS: if you google it and the first link you get goes to Huffington Post or Daily Kos or something...I reccomend you keep searching and reading other sources.

[whottt]

BTW

Viwing average:

RNC = 34 mil
DNC = 30 mil



That's actually a bad sign...the DNC historically outdraws the RNC, like this might be the first time the RNC has ever outdrawn it, and the Democrats seldom win Presidential Elections.

[Cant_Be_Faded]

Whottt if you truly are an independent, and you watched Biden's speech criticizing the RNC speeches, you can't possibly tell me he's that polarizing of a figure and that bad of a VP pick.
I was actually impressed with his tone and delivery. Didn't know he could speak like that.

[MannyIsGod]

Congrats, McCain wins the ratings election. Obama wins the more people saw me in person election. Whottt wins the most useless stats election.

[Cant_Be_Faded]

There were more people at the DNC eating beer brats and nachos than were total people at the RNC.

[tomtom]

lol $10 million was raised for Obama following Palin's speech

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/uselection2008/johnmccain/2686278/Sarah-Palins-assault-benefits-Barack-Obamas-fundraising.html

[whottt]

Whottt if you truly are an independent, and you watched Biden's speech criticizing the RNC speeches, you can't possibly tell me he's that polarizing of a figure and that bad of a VP pick.
I was actually impressed with his tone and delivery. Didn't know he could speak like that.


I'm not saying he's polarizing...I am saying he's uninteresting and unbcharismatic...and yeah I know I said unlikeable, but I mean that in a dispassionate sense. Face it, Obama wanted someone that had no chance of outshining him, that still could be used to prove his inexperience won't be negative.


More importantly....your generation may know him as tough mind liberal Senator Joe Biden from Delaware...


For the older generation, and majority of voters, the first word that pops into your head when you hear Joe Biden's name mentioned, is plaigerism. Every single time.


Since the questions surround Obama are not about how well he can talk or how smart he is...but more about his trustworthiness, picking Biden made that worse.

Hillary would have been a better choice. No one doubs her trustworthiness.

[MannyIsGod]

Obviously more people were in doubt over McCain was a POW so they tuned into the RNC to find out the answer to that very important question.

IMO, the RNC could have done a much better job addressing the issue of McCain's POW status. We're still left in ambiguity over the subject. I hope McCain himself will address this once and for all. Is McCain a POW or is he just flip flopping on the issue?

[Cant_Be_Faded]

That money is not significant, because Sarah Palin has awakened the Republican Woman bloc and is siphoning off every undecided independent as we speak, while also fortifying the party's strength to a level not witnessed since the second term of Reagan (Buchanan said that, I almost broke my other ankle laughing so hard).

[whottt]

That money is not significant, because Sarah Palin has awakened the Republican Woman bloc and is siphoning off every undecided independent as we speak, while also fortifying the party's strength to a level not witnessed since the second term of Reagan (Buchanan said that, I almost broke my other ankle laughing so hard).

Dude...Palin is likeable, the last time the Republicans had an actual likeable candidate they won 49 states. The Democrats always have someone likeable, or who wants to be liked...in that sense Obama isn't any different than Mike Dukakis.


I'll say it right now, there are going to be states in play in this election that no one is expecting to be in play...like New York.


That New York is strictly Democrat is misleading...New York is extremely patriotic for the right candidate.


They didn't respond to Bush overall, but they rallied like hell around him and Guiliani around 9/11...McCain's war story will play well to the average New Yorker, as opposed to Bush who an obvious silver spoon...but not only that, a Texan which New Yorkers instantly consider a stupid cowboy and an opponent.


The way I look at it...three factors are going to result in New York being closer than anyone expects:

McCain being an actual patriot worthy of the name, and showing true toughness, unlike Bush, is going to appeal to New Yorkers.

They majority of their Jewish Population is now Hacidic...those are conservatives, not the traditional liberal jews and a top Jewish politician threw his support behind McCain.

And I think Palin's regular woman appeal is going to play well there, and she almost has a Yankee or Candian accent as opposed to Bush's fake Texas draw.


Hillary was their Senator, she won the primary there and Obama effed her. New Yorkers rally around their own and they are politically saavy.


Guilianni is a Republican.


And finally...there are a lot of racists in New York.



New York is going to be in play in this election...hide and watch.

[MannyIsGod]

LOL LOL LOL

Ok. I refuse to take any future Whottt post on this election credibly. I now am convinced this is a massive troll effort.

New York in play.

K.

[whottt]

LOL LOL LOL

Ok. I refuse to take any future Whottt post on this election credibly. I now am convinced this is a massive troll effort.

New York in play.

K.


I'm an anthropologist Manny and I've studied cultures extensively...that is like psychology of groups of people and I am a natural at it, it's the one thing I can say with all confidence that I truly do well. I've never missed calling the popular vote in my life.


THe only time I've been wrong about the winner is that I expected W to lose in a landslide in 2000..but my mistake there was that I knew W's story intimately with him having been the owner of the Rangers and the Govenor of Texas. I knew he was a Silver Spoon, I knew he was going to have an agressive foreign policy that would probably stir up our international relations, and I knew he was ignorant and unlikable...I assumed everyone else knew that individual knowledge and that was my mistake.

Swear to god, I have a hard time feeling that anyone in this country threw a bigger shitfit about W winning in 2000 than I did.

This election, I think it's going to be a Republican Landslide based on my feelings right now.

A few weeks ago I was going to have a hard time voting against Obama...not the case now....and he has not been coming off well in interviews lately.

And even when I was leaning towards him I didn't think he was going to win.

Barring a major smear on McCain...I think Obama's last chance will be to dominate the debates...and McCain is a tough debater, much more effective at debating than he is at public speaking.

[whottt]

You are way overestimating base by the way....much of what you see with Obama is a media construct...and party affiliation seldom is reflective of voting tendencies. Most Americans are moderate, regardless of their party affiliation.


And on yeah...the majority of New York voters are women.

[whottt]

There were more people at the DNC eating beer brats and nachos than were total people at the RNC.

Big deal...that's like a rock concert.



Pretty sure after all the vandalism by the Obama supporters a the RNC Minnesota is going to go Republican as well.

Ironically enough...that's the one state Reagan didn't win in 84.

[JoeChalupa]

None of this neanderthal psychoanalysis bullshit means anything the only number that matters is the vote count on election day. A

[Wild Cobra]

None of this neanderthal psychoanalysis bullshit means anything the only number that matters is the vote count on election day. A

I agree, but could the numbers indicate that Obama is losing the momentum he had? Maybe his campaign is past it peak!

[ChumpDumper]

Maybe the McCain campaign is peaking this week and it's all downhill from here!

[Wild Cobra]

Maybe the McCain campaign is peaking this week and it's all downhill from here!

I doubt that. McCain is just getting started. Obama can only seduce the idiots for so long with "change" and "hope." At some point, they will add the pieces up and see they don't add up.

Have we even been given any details yet, or is it all still fluff?

The way I see it is that Obama is just a 'fluffer (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fluffer)' of the left. He gives the libtards a hard-on. At some point, they will tire of him.

[ChumpDumper]

I doubt that. McCain is just getting started. Obama can only seduce the idiots for so long with "change" and "hope." At some point, they will add the pieces up and see they don't add up.

Have we even been given any details yet, or is it all still fluff?

The way I see it is that Obama is just a 'fluffer (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fluffer)' of the left. He gives the libtards a hard-on. At some point, they will tire of him.The way I see it, you are a personal fluffer for Bush and now McCain and you love the taste of their semen and will never tire of sucking their cocks.

Now do you want to get your act out of the gutter or do you want to drink more Republican semen?

[Viva Las Espuelas]

ratings nor going/not going on a sunday talk show means a damn thing in this.

[Supergirl]

I guarantee you more Dems watched the RNC than vice versa. It's going to be a horse race in any event. It's Obama's to lose.

I'm not so sure. Most Dems are already quite sold on their candidate, and didn't watch the RNC because all the lies would just piss them off. Whereas, McSame and Fruitcake have not done much to solidify their "base" so a lot of Republicans tuned into the DNC to see what all the fuss has been about.