MNF Gameday Thread 9/8

[stretch]

Picks?

I got Minnesota and Oakland winning.

[IronMexican]

Minny and OAKLAND!

[Hook Dem]

Minnesota and Oakland also.

[DPG21920]

I have Minny (reluctantly) and betting on Denver/Oakland is like betting on who wins this fight!:

HmWb0HPTB9A

[Trainwreck2100]

GB and Oakland

[Evan]

minn den

[SAtown]

GB and Donks

[SAtown]

OK WTF? Are they really covering the bottom 1/6 of my fucking TV on MNF? ESPN is so annoying

[rAm]

OK WTF? Are they really covering the bottom 1/6 of my fucking TV on MNF? ESPN is so annoying

with what?

[Whisky Dog]

Rodgers sucks. Jackson sucks. Peterson doesnt. Minn. Wins.

Denver sucks less than Oakland. I think.

[IronMexican]

Rodgers sucks. Jackson sucks. Peterson doesnt. Minn. Wins.

Denver sucks less than Oakland. I think.

wrong.


Peterson is seeing no sophomore slump.

[Whisky Dog]

Damn. Jackson really, really sucks. Can't even throw a slant on target.

[Whisky Dog]

wrong.


Peterson is seeing no sophomore slump.

Read it again and figure out what's going on.

[IronMexican]

Read it again and figure out what's going on.

I said wrong about the Raiders sucking more than Denver. Who are also missing they're best playmaker.

[PeterBurns]

Over and Under on Favre References? 25?

[PeterBurns]

Just heard 3 of them on the TD pass. I'm upping it to 30

[TheTruth]

Tony Korneheiser is terrible. PLEASE REPLACE HIM NEXT YEAR!!!

[SAtown]

Over and Under on Favre References? 25?

A lot more than that...

[IronMexican]

Kornheiser GTFO!

[DPG21920]

I have Minny (reluctantly)

[SpursFanFirst]

Minnesota had better win this. I need my vbookie money back. :greedy

[SpursFanFirst]

Oh yeah. This is not looking good.
Bye, vbookie money.

[IronMexican]

Minny to keeps it within 1 score. and the Favre love fest will begin.

[ducks]

T. Jackson sucks

[Borosai]

I agree... Kornhole has to be the worst commentator on television. He brings absolutely nothing. Last year should have been enough. STFU about Favre already. Tard.

[SAtown]

Jets highlights at halftime. I'm loving this :downspin:

[Kriz-Maxima]

I wish i could punch Kornheiser. You love Favre, we get it, move on.

[IronMexican]

Jets highlights at halftime. I'm loving this :downspin:

Good thing I changed it over to NFL Network. Raiders special:downspin:

[DPG21920]

Come on Minny

[IronMexican]

Come on Minny

damn, you're rolling in Vbookie cash.

[DPG21920]

Cause I usually know how to pick 'em. But I said I picked Minny reluctantly, should of gone with what I know and not bet. They still have a chance though...

[IronMexican]

Cause I usually know how to pick 'em. But I said I picked Minny reluctantly, should of gone with what I know and not bet. They still have a chance though...

not looking good now.

[DPG21920]

Ha, wasn't looking good to start the game

[DPG21920]

Last time I bet on a one dimensional

[SpursFanFirst]

:madrun:madrun:madrun:madrun:madrun:madrun

Stupid, Stupid Vikings!

:madrun:madrun:madrun:madrun:madrun:madrun

[DPG21920]

Damn that was a good kick

[SAtown]

wtf was that on 3rd down? Vikings got this

[DPG21920]

There is still a chance! I love something so simple as v-bookie can make games more interesting. I am such a simpleton!

[DPG21920]

wtf was that on 3rd down?

They did not want to throw and risk an interception, just a game of field position, time and defense.

[SAtown]

Yes!

[IronMexican]

Go to the Raider game now!

[DPG21920]

What a terrible throw.

[SpursFanFirst]

This Suuuuuuuuuucks!

[SAtown]

da raaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaiderssssssssssssss

[Hank the Tank]

Fuck the Raider Haters!

Beat them donks!


...omg...wow...are they serious with the announcers?

[IronMexican]

let's doooo thiiiiisss! so damn pumped!!!:downspin::downspin::king:lobt2::bking:

[NuGGeTs-FaN]

Mike/Mike/Mike :drunk

Broncos by 10 :smokin

There is something strange about getting a Broncos game live in Africa :lol

[Hank the Tank]

damn i love our secondary....but our damn rush d makes me nervous.

[IronMexican]

The Awesome one with a tackle

[ShoogarBear]

I just turned the game on. Please don't tell me I have to listen to Mike Greenberg's whiny-ass voice.

[IronMexican]

damn i love our secondary....but our damn rush d makes me nervous.

A fellow Raider fan :toast

[SAtown]

I think I hear Ditka breathing into the mic :lol

[SAtown]

I just turned the game on. Please don't tell me I have to listen to Mike Greenberg's whiny-ass voice.

yessir

[NuGGeTs-FaN]

Eddie Royal is going to be something special

[Hank the Tank]

A fellow Raider fan :toast

damn right. :toast


...we need to get some pressure on cutler.

[IronMexican]

damn right. :toast


...we need to get some pressure on cutler.

Jesus, he has all day. I feel like im watching the Cowboys yesterday.

[Hank the Tank]

cutler so far has had romo type time.

need a damn turnover.

[ShoogarBear]

yessir

http://www.extrememortman.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/05/Maxwell%20Smart%20Get%20Smart.bmp

I asked you not to tell me that!

[NuGGeTs-FaN]

i dont get to watch much NFL, but surely it can't be good using a baseball field for an NFL game? :lol The surface change must be hell on the knees

[SAtown]

:lol

[NuGGeTs-FaN]

Eddie Freakin' Royal!

Booya

[Hank the Tank]

well that sucked...

lets go O.

[ShoogarBear]

i dont get to watch much NFL, but surely it can't be good using a baseball field for an NFL game? :lol The surface change must be hell on the knees

Oakland's one of the few places left that still have to do that. It can make for some crappy field conditions, but it always makes me feel nostalgia for when I was a kid, when there were a ton of football stadiums like that at the start of the year (Oakland, SD, Shea, Milwaukee when the Pack played there).

[Hank the Tank]

Nice return!!

[NuGGeTs-FaN]

dang it........ horrible D. It always seems to happen :lol

[Hank the Tank]

i thought it was a bad spot since he flipped and landed funny.

we got it anyway though.

[ShoogarBear]

That was an ugly sneak.

[SAtown]

Not looking good so far for the raiders

[dirk4mvp]

Russell lookin ace so far.

[NuGGeTs-FaN]

Turnover! Awesome timing :lol

Broncos got lucky with the refs before that

[ShoogarBear]

Wow.

I guess the Skins could be worse.

[NuGGeTs-FaN]

Is anyone actually on Eddie Royal? :lol

[Hank the Tank]

classic raiders gettin raped by the refs...im used to it though.

[NuGGeTs-FaN]

nice.......the refs are on the Broncos payroll tonight :lol

[NuGGeTs-FaN]

nice move to challenge it

[Hank the Tank]

im surprised the raiders werent stupid and jumped....im used to that too...stupid penalties.

ok, lets keep wearin em out with the run.

[Hank the Tank]

mcfadden at qb??

weird...

[NuGGeTs-FaN]

Cutler!

Wow

[Whisky Dog]

Golic I don't mind. Ditka I can stomach. Greenberg should be nowhere near sports broadcasting. I've taught my dog more about football than Greenberg knows.

[SAtown]

GB and Donks

yep

[Whisky Dog]

Royal looks like he's playing in high school, handing that overrated punk ass DeAngelo Hall his ass on a platter.

[monosylab1k]

It's been a while since I've seen such an undisciplined team with a truly awe-inspiring lack of chemistry. It's like the Raiders skipped training camp & preseason and this is the first time they've even seen each other since the end of last year.

[Hank the Tank]

It's been a while since I've seen such an undisciplined team with a truly awe-inspiring lack of chemistry. It's like the Raiders skipped training camp & preseason and this is the first time they've even seen each other since the end of last year.

you havent been watchin the raiders for the past few yrs, have you?

...nothin has changed so far.

[IronMexican]

Time for the comeback! ok:depressed we suck, again.

[IronMexican]

It's been a while since I've seen such an undisciplined team with a truly awe-inspiring lack of chemistry. It's like the Raiders skipped training camp & preseason and this is the first time they've even seen each other since the end of last year.

:lol:lol this is so damn hilarious, but true.

[monosylab1k]

you havent been watchin the raiders for the past few yrs, have you?

...nothin has changed so far.

You haven't watched the Raiders pick high in the draft the past few years, have you?

The Raiders used to suck because they had no talent. Now they do. For them to look this bad is far more pathetic now than before.

[Hank the Tank]

Time for the comeback! ok:depressed we suck, again.

reminds me a little of last yr....get blown out in the 1st half and embarrassed.

come out and comeback...but break your heart at the end.

[IronMexican]

reminds me a little of last yr....get blown out in the 1st half and embarrassed.

come out and comeback...but break your heart at the end.

yeah, we were down 17-0 in week 1, and 2 last year. those were heart breakers, especially that denver one.

[Hank the Tank]

yeah, we were down 17-0 in week 1, and 2 last year. those were heart breakers, especially that denver one.

lets hope for a repeat...except a happier ending.

[dirk4mvp]

Rohan Davey's passes are inaccurate as hell so far.

[IronMexican]

As disheartened as this makes me, I wont change it. what a sad game. great tackling there, Huff.

[IronMexican]

Let's all hope and pray Al Davis dies this year. Only way we have good draft with our #1 pick.

[bostonguy]

Raiders on their way to 4-12 and will be coach hunting once again. Same shit different year with the Raiders since 2003.

[bostonguy]

Oakland/New Englands matchup is going to blow fish testicles week 14 tho.:depressed

[bostonguy]

IRONMEXICAN....let me buy you a corona or any other beer of choice. It's on me. We can get fucked up together.:toast

[IronMexican]

IRONMEXICAN....let me buy you a corona or any other beer of choice. It's on me. We can get fucked up together.:toast

:lol:toast Come on down to LA.:lol:depressed
Well, I got the Trojans:king

[Vinnie_Johnson]

Well it looks like another great year for Raider Fan:toast

[Hank the Tank]

....sooo.... will we ever score???

[dirk4mvp]

Come on down to LA.I got the Trojans:king

depending on how someone reads this, it might sound gay. :lol

[Hank the Tank]

Well it looks like another great year for Raider Fan:toast

same for the lions:toast

[NuGGeTs-FaN]

Broncos looking great, it's hard to tell though coz the Raiders are horrible :lol

[IronMexican]

depending on how someone reads this, it might sound gay. :lol

:lmao That was good. The battle begins. Oakland, or Detroit? reminiscent of 2006, the battle for the #1 pick.

[bostonguy]

:lol:toast Come on down to LA.:lol:depressed
Well, I got the Trojans:king

I got got my redsox and celtics still while you have your lakers. See we can have our happy moments with other teams plus with our pals Tecate and Corona! :lmao:toast

[johnsmith]

LOL.


I love the Broncos and everything so I'd love to give them credit for this, but the Raiders are fucking terrible.

[Sean Cagney]

:lol:toast Come on down to LA.:lol:depressed
Well, I got the Trojans:king

LOL word, you sound like me now though with the Dolphins and a fallback to atleast I have the Gators to root for :bang:bang:lol. Damnit I want a good NFL season for once, I got a 9-7 one and 6 wins in a row as a teaser to me back in 05 season and thought they were coming up and back!!!! THEN boommmmmm, back down to the bottom. What have us Raiders and Fins fans (Franchises with a great history to this) done to deserve this shyt? We are cursed man.

[Vinnie_Johnson]

same for the lions:toast

Yet you don't see Lions fans thinking that they will win shit they just know the team sucks. I was adopted The Cowboys 15 Years ago when I met my wife who is from SA. I had suffered long enough still like the Lions but don't live and die by them anymore.

[johnsmith]

I love the booth now giving sympathy praise to the Raiders......"Now that was a good run", as though they are speaking to a 5 year old.


LOL, Raiders.

[IronMexican]

LOL word, you sound like me now though with the Dolphins and a fallback to atleast I have the Gators to root for :bang:bang:lol. Damnit I want a good NFL season for once, I got a 9-7 one and 6 wins in a row as a teaser to me back in 05 season and thought they were coming up and back!!!! THEN boommmmmm, back down to the bottom. What have us Raiders and Fins fans (Franchises with a great history to this) done to deserve this shyt? We are cursed man.

Yeah:toast We can both hope the Steelers suck too, right?:lol then all 3 teams of the 70's would suck

[bostonguy]

As crazy as raider fans are, I truly feel bad for them. Those sons of bitches are diehard loyal motherfuckers win or lose. They LOVE and WORSHIP that team.

[IronMexican]

What is kiff doing? trying to run a bootleg? jesus.

[IronMexican]

TD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!:king:lobt2::lobt2::lobt2::lobt2::lobt2 ::lobt2::lobt2::lobt2::lobt2:
yayayaya!

[NuGGeTs-FaN]

amazing, they scored :lol

[bostonguy]

TD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!:king:lobt2::lobt2::lobt2::lobt2::lobt2 ::lobt2::lobt2::lobt2::lobt2:
yayayaya!

You want your corona with lime/salt or just the way it is?

[Hank the Tank]

Yes! No shut out on national tv muthafuckers....

...yep

[Vinnie_Johnson]

As crazy as raider fans are, I truly feel bad for them. Those sons of bitches are diehard loyal motherfuckers win or lose. They LOVE and WORSHIP that team.

It's more of a dress up drinking club they are in. It's all about getting real drunk and looking to fight someone.:ihit

[bostonguy]

Comon Oakland make this somewhat interesting! I need something to keep me going before tomorrow's game vs the drays.:sleep

[IronMexican]

You want your corona with lime/salt or just the way it is?

I drink mickeys. and OT, but how many people on Boston actually have a Boston accent?

[bostonguy]

It's more of a dress up drinking club they are in. It's all about getting real drunk and looking to fight someone.:ihit

:lmao:lmao:lmao


I want to go to a game in the black hole so badly just for the experience! Dinero is a reason why I cant go. :depressed

[IronMexican]

:lmao:lmao:lmao


I want to go to a game in the black hole so badly just for the experience! Dinero is a reason why I cant go. :depressed

My uncle is going to that game. He was also at a game in SD when a Raider fan stabbed a Charger fan. we were good back then though.

[NuGGeTs-FaN]

Eddie Royal is just ripping the Raiders a new one

[NuGGeTs-FaN]

Touchdown!

[Sean Cagney]

Yeah:toast We can both hope the Steelers suck too, right?:lol then all 3 teams of the 70's would suck

That would be nice, they don't stay down near as long as us though :bang:bang. Is it our owners? I mean wtf is it really? I am sick of it man! Yet I continue to watch.

[bostonguy]

I drink mickeys. and OT, but how many people on Boston actually have a Boston accent?

A good number of people that aren't originally from Boston have it. It varys pending on where you are from. I dont have an accent that's for sure. :lmao

[bostonguy]

My uncle is going to that game. He was also at a game in SD when a Raider fan stabbed a Charger fan. we were good back then though.

In SD a raider fan stabbed a charger fan? :wow

[Vinnie_Johnson]

In SD a raider fan stabbed a charger fan? :wow

Then there was Raider fan who cut charger fans ear off in a bar too.

[IronMexican]

In SD a raider fan stabbed a charger fan? :wow

We use to outnumber them in Qualcomm. back when we would go 11-5, 12-4, and they'd finish 4-12.

[bostonguy]

Eddie Royal is just ripping the Raiders a new one

I drafted him but he is on my bench. Is he a keeper for the weeks to come you think?

[bostonguy]

We use to outnumber them in Qualcomm. back when we would go 11-5, 12-4, and they'd finish 4-12.

:lmao:lmao That's sad that the visiting fans outnumber the home fans.

[bostonguy]

Then there was Raider fan who cut charger fans ear off in a bar too.

WTF? Damn I wonder what they did to Donkey fans (thats what raider fans call them if im not mistaken)

[IronMexican]

we're only tied for #2 in the west. next week we take over #1.

[NuGGeTs-FaN]

I drafted him but he is on my bench. Is he a keeper for the weeks to come you think?


Definately. Obviously when Marshall comes back it will change, but the two of them can share the spotlight :smokin

I got stuck with bloody Ronald Curry coz of autodraft :lol

[Trainwreck2100]

we're only tied for #2 in the west. next week we take over #1.

Impossible, if the raiders win and all other division teams lose the Broncos still have the tiebreaker

[bostonguy]

Definately. Obviously when Marshall comes back it will change, but the two of them can share the spotlight :smokin

I got stuck with bloody Ronald Curry coz of autodraft :lol


I just dont trust autodraft but I know you have to do it if it's your only option to be in a league. They better at least share the spotlight. I have selvin Young as well but im not panicking on him just yet.

[Vinnie_Johnson]

http://broncotalk.net/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/raiders-fans.jpg

[IronMexican]

http://broncotalk.net/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/raiders-fans.jpg

The Violator!!! 15-1 doesn't sound as good as 16-0, but we'll take it.

[IronMexican]

Td!!!!!!

[Hank the Tank]

the only positive thing i can take out of this is our O played a little better near the end...lets take that into the next game.....and lets bring our D next time.

[Sean Cagney]

Jesus Christ your cheerleaders are so damn hot, thats one thing to cheer about... They have always been my faves, so damn sexy.

[IronMexican]

Raiderettes > All.

[Sean Cagney]

Raiderettes > All.

OMG yes those uniforms and their hose underneath those to make them legs look OMG :wow:wow. I used to have a video with them in it when I was a young buck, I loved a few scenes forever man! They are beyond sexy.

[IronMexican]

The positives: Russel looked good, and Nnamdi played great, we have the best punter in the NFL

The negatives: Hall sucks, our D line sucks, O line sucks, our coaching sucks, our discipline sucks, our owner has old wrinkly skin, and needs to die in hopes of Mark Cuban buying us

[Sean Cagney]

The positives: Russel looked good, and Nnamdi played great, we have the best punter in the NFL

The negatives: Hall sucks, our D line sucks, O line sucks, our coaching sucks, our discipline sucks, our owner has old wrinkly skin, and needs to die in hopes of Mark Cuban buying us

Cuban will spend no doubt, but he will not put together a group who can win it all as he has not in the NBA!!!!!! He will spend though, at all costs.

[JudynTX]

http://broncotalk.net/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/raiders-fans.jpg

Damn, those are some scary looking fans. :lol

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Their O-line sucks dick at pass blocking.

Jamarcus Russell made me happy. I saw for the most part a lot of maturity out of him and he made very few real mistakes. A couple times early in the game he held the ball too long, but it seemed like he started getting rid of it after shaking off the first quarter jitters. His arm is impressive, not only in strength, but he actually can throw it right on the money quite well.

The running game is fantastic. Could easily be the second best running team in the league, behind Minnesota. Fargas is a damn good running back, and McFadden looked very solid as well. Both are smart and are good play makers. Several times the had absolutely no where to go, and when they should have lost a yard or two, they still gained two or three.

Russell seems to like Lelie as a target. As soon as he came into the game, he was throwing to him. Curry pissed me off with that drop though. That was an easy TD too, and as a veteran with a young QB throwing to him, he HAS to catch that to help boost his confidence. Which leads me to another point... Russell does not seem to get rattled easily at all. He always looks extremely calm and poised, and even after a couple sacks early, he seemed completely unaffected by it. I am really liking Russell so far. IMO, he is the most physically gifted QB I have ever seen. Big, strong, tall, rocket arm, good running ability. Lets just see how his ability to read defenses and throw on the money pans out. He seemed to show very mature desicion making though, avoiding mistakes, which is what impressed me probably the most of all. I'm very excited to see him more. Their O-line sucks dick at pass blocking.

They were stopping the run well early, but their secondary was playing terribly, which led to them dropping LBs into more coverage, and then the Broncos were able to run better.

Nnamdi is absolutely incredible though. I think he is the second best corner in the league, without a doubt. Hall and the rest of the secondary looked terrible though. However, I'm wondering whether its because they played so poorly, as opposed to the awful defensive playcalling. Their O-line sucks dick at pass blocking. Why the hell were they playing so much zone? This team is such an athletically gifted team that they need to be playing mostly man defense, especially with a shutdown corner like Nnamdi, and athletes like Hall and Huff.

Their O-line sucks dick at pass blocking.

On the other hand, Denver played the game of their life. I can't see them playing a more perfect game, as I cant see Oakland playing that badly again. I'm just shocked at how bad their defense played, and personally I think a lot of it had to do with awful playcalling. I'm looking forward to seeing this team more in action. Even though they got whooped, I still saw a lot of positives to build off of. Their O-line sucks dick at pass blocking. GO RAIDERS!

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oh yeah dumb penalties killed us too.

Their O-line sucks dick at pass blocking.

[IronMexican]

I've said it before. Not drafting a DT over McFumble is gonna fuck us up for a long time.

[stretch]

I've said it before. Not drafting a DT over McFumble is gonna fuck us up for a long time.

hard to tell right now. if mcfadden turns out as good as he is capable of being, then i cant really argue it. he looked solid last night and in preseason.

but this offseason, we gotta get a quality DT.

[IronMexican]

Phil Moala or Matt Oher. we need one of those two.

[monosylab1k]

I've said it before. Not drafting a DT over McFumble is gonna fuck us up for a long time.

:lol alot of people critcized SD for taking Tomlinson too, it turned out okay for them. You can find a good DT anywhere if you scout well enough, but gamebreaking RB's are a lot tougher to get a hold of.

[stretch]

Phil Moala or Matt Oher. we need one of those two.

any quality DTs in free agency? or perhaps some on the trading block?

[IronMexican]

I think Grady Jackson is still a FA.

[monosylab1k]

If Al Davis would just sit back and shut up and just sign the checks, and let Lane Kiffin run the team, the Raiders would be in a lot better position.

Kiffin had some really great offensive plays called, but the team just made mistake after mistake. I think he's a great playcaller and hopefully he can teach them some discipline too. If Davis doesn't fire him for no good reason, he could be a premier coach in the league in another year or two.

[IronMexican]

:lol alot of people critcized SD for taking Tomlinson too, it turned out okay for them. You can find a good DT anywhere if you scout well enough, but gamebreaking RB's are a lot tougher to get a hold of.

And the Texans were ripped for drafting Reggie Bush. Hindsight is 20/20. I just don't see it in this guy.

[monosylab1k]

And the Texans were ripped for drafting Reggie Bush. Hindsight is 20/20. I just don't see it in this guy.

Did you watch him at Arkansas?

and as great as Mario Williams has been, he's not gonna help a whole lot of anything since they have dick for a running game and no QB.

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And the Texans were ripped for drafting Reggie Bush. Hindsight is 20/20. I just don't see it in this guy.

i can understand that, but i think a big difference between bush and mcfadden is mcfadden is a smart runner. he knows how to follow blocks. he doesnt get by ENTIRELY by athletic ability. Bush is a freak of nature, but has ZERO understanding of football and terrible RB instincts. McFadden is also a hell of an athlete, but knows how to run correctly. instincts go a long way for a RB.

[IronMexican]

Sorry, just don't see it. great DT's are game changers. ask the Titans, Bucs, and Pats.

[stretch]

Sorry, just don't see it. great DT's are game changers. ask the Titans, Bucs, and Pats.

so are great RBs.

[IronMexican]

How many great RB's are there actually? 2-3 tops. Tomlinson, Peterson, and maybe Jackson. those aren't in every draft. look at that shitty 2005 draft.

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How many great RB's are there actually? 2-3 tops. Tomlinson, Peterson, and maybe Jackson. those aren't in every draft. look at that shitty 2005 draft.

um... Brian Westbrook? Willie Parker? Larry Johnson?

[IronMexican]

Yeah, Westbrook totally slipped my mind, but Parker? Johnson? nah. I don't think either of those two averaged over 4 YPC.

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Yeah, Westbrook totally slipped my mind, but Parker? Johnson? nah. I don't think either of those two averaged over 4 YPC.

Parker has never averaged less than 4.1 YPC. Last year LJ was hurt, but he also never averaged less than 4.3 YPC.

[monosylab1k]

Sorry, just don't see it.

So you didn't watch him in college, and after one game in which he averaged 5 yards a carry in his NFL debut, you don't see anything. :lmao sorry but that's fucking retarded.