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Mr. Peabody
09-12-2008, 02:58 PM
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a168/ichingcarpenter/screen-capture-3-6.png

I know. It's ridiculous.

Are people on the right going to be incensed?

What will Hannity say?

Spurminator
09-12-2008, 03:03 PM
Yeah I want to know why those troops hate America too.

101A
09-12-2008, 03:05 PM
Did y'all know the U.S. code specifically calls for all citizens to put their hand over their heart, or salute if in uniform, while the pledge of allegiance is recited, or the Star Spangled Banner is played?

I question what is going on in this picture, since those in uniform are simply standing at attention.

Mr. Peabody
09-12-2008, 03:05 PM
Yeah I want to know why those troops hate America too.

I thought troops stand at attention. That's what David Robinson did during the national anthem at every Spurs' game.

101A
09-12-2008, 03:09 PM
I thought troops stand at attention. That's what David Robinson did during the national anthem at every Spurs' game.

Maybe you're right on the National Anthem; I'm pretty sure the Pledge of Allegiance requires a salute.

David, since he was not in uniform, should have had his hand over his heart (unless the White, Silver and Black count)

jn77
09-12-2008, 03:53 PM
Maybe you're right on the National Anthem; I'm pretty sure the Pledge of Allegiance requires a salute.

David, since he was not in uniform, should have had his hand over his heart (unless the White, Silver and Black count)


In or out of uniform military members and veterans alike may stand at attention durring the anthem, and the pledge. At least that was the directive when I was active.

btw where was Palin's flag pin?:lmao

fyatuk
09-12-2008, 04:15 PM
US Code, Title 36>Subtitle I>Part A> Chapter 3> Section 301

National anthem
How Current is This? (a) Designation.— The composition consisting of the words and music known as the Star-Spangled Banner is the national anthem.
(b) Conduct During Playing.— During a rendition of the national anthem—
(1) when the flag is displayed—
(A) all present except those in uniform should stand at attention facing the flag with the right hand over the heart;
(B) men not in uniform should remove their headdress with their right hand and hold the headdress at the left shoulder, the hand being over the heart; and
(C) individuals in uniform should give the military salute at the first note of the anthem and maintain that position until the last note; and
(2) when the flag is not displayed, all present should face toward the music and act in the same manner they would if the flag were displayed.

Title 4 > Chapter 1 > Section 4 describes basically the exact same behaviour for the Pledge.

Given that the Military is not saluting, neither the Pledge nor national anthem should be going on, but likely was either about to start or just ending since some people are in position.

Mr. Peabody
09-12-2008, 04:20 PM
US Code, Title 36>Subtitle I>Part A> Chapter 3> Section 301

National anthem
How Current is This? (a) Designation.— The composition consisting of the words and music known as the Star-Spangled Banner is the national anthem.
(b) Conduct During Playing.— During a rendition of the national anthem—
(1) when the flag is displayed—
(A) all present except those in uniform should stand at attention facing the flag with the right hand over the heart;
(B) men not in uniform should remove their headdress with their right hand and hold the headdress at the left shoulder, the hand being over the heart; and
(C) individuals in uniform should give the military salute at the first note of the anthem and maintain that position until the last note; and
(2) when the flag is not displayed, all present should face toward the music and act in the same manner they would if the flag were displayed.

Title 4 > Chapter 1 > Section 4 describes basically the exact same behaviour for the Pledge.

Given that the Military is not saluting, neither the Pledge nor national anthem should be going on, but likely was either about to start or just ending since some people are in position.

Hmmm. That's strange. I swear that DRob never put his hand over his heart and just stood at attention. Don't get me wrong, he stood as still as a statue, but never with his hand over his heart.

fyatuk
09-12-2008, 04:26 PM
Hmmm. That's strange. I swear that DRob never put his hand over his heart and just stood at attention. Don't get me wrong, he stood as still as a statue, but never with his hand over his heart.

Dunno. That's the current code, and what I have always known it as, even though I don't follow it (few people really do)

JoeChalupa
09-12-2008, 04:57 PM
I thought troops stand at attention. That's what David Robinson did during the national anthem at every Spurs' game.

Yes, standing at attention when out of uniform is the proper code of conduct and a salute while in uniform. At least it was when I was in the Corps.
Semper Fi!!

Gino
09-12-2008, 05:01 PM
When Palin gives some ridiculous explanation of why she doesn't want to wear the american flag pin, then she'll start to get the same criticism.

JoeChalupa
09-12-2008, 05:01 PM
While on base and in uniform during reveille you stop and salute towards the flag and stand at attention when not in uniform.

JoeChalupa
09-12-2008, 05:02 PM
When Palin gives some ridiculous explanation of why she doesn't want to wear the american flag pin, then she'll start to get the same criticism.

I've noticed her wearing a huge flag pin every time I've seen her.

Gino
09-12-2008, 05:06 PM
I've noticed her wearing a huge flag pin every time I've seen her.

I know...thats my point. She wouldn't NOT wear the pin to make a statement that she's patriotic. Obama's explanation was pathetic.

JoeChalupa
09-12-2008, 05:07 PM
I know...thats my point. She wouldn't NOT wear the pin to make a statement that she's patriotic. Obama's explanation was pathetic.

Oh please. Since when does wearing a damn flag pin prove anybody's patriotism? :rolleyes

Gino
09-12-2008, 05:10 PM
Oh please. Since when does wearing a damn flag pin prove anybody's patriotism? :rolleyes

It doesn't, but Obama stated that too many people believe they can prove they're patriotic by just wearing the pin, therefore he decided that he wouldn't wear the pin.

If he wants to prove that he's patriotic, there's a lot better ways to do it than to refuse to wear a pin that is the symbol of our country. A lot of better men died fighting for that symbol.

PixelPusher
09-12-2008, 07:41 PM
A lot of better men died fighting for that symbol.

People died for their country and the people living in it, not for symbols.

Mr. Body
09-12-2008, 08:27 PM
More damning is the photo of her talking in front of a flag with only 49 stars.

Biernutz
09-12-2008, 08:48 PM
If you don't want to say The Pledge of Allegiance to the United States and still be the DNC candidate for president........."Goddam the USKKKA".


"I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pledge_of_Allegiance


http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb270/systime/obama/obama-no-patriot.jpg

Wild Cobra
09-12-2008, 08:52 PM
It seems to me the most likely scenario is that the Anthem was about to be played, but hasn't started yet. Some people placed their hand over their heart before others. People next to each other also tend to react as others.

Or.. it could be a photo-shop of two pictures a few moments apart.

Wild Cobra
09-12-2008, 08:54 PM
If you don't want to say The Pledge of Allegiance to the United States and still be the DNC candidate for president........."Goddam the USKKKA".


"I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pledge_of_Allegiance


http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb270/systime/obama/obama-no-patriot.jpg

Lets not forget this is an actual picture of Obama just standing there...

The video of the same scene clearly shows he dodn't even place his hand over his heart late!

Wild Cobra
09-12-2008, 08:58 PM
Here's the next image in sequence from the photobucket:

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a168/ichingcarpenter/screen-capture-3-7.png

TheMadHatter
09-12-2008, 08:58 PM
It's amazing just how polar opposite conservatives are to teachings of Jesus.

They display none of his compassion, understanding, patience, and love of humanity.

efrem1
09-12-2008, 10:53 PM
I thought troops stand at attention. That's what David Robinson did during the national anthem at every Spurs' game.

No Mr. Peabody, they salute the flag when they are in uniform. This comes from a former sailor.

efrem1
09-12-2008, 10:58 PM
It's amazing just how polar opposite conservatives are to teachings of Jesus.

They display none of his compassion, understanding, patience, and love of humanity.

Oh, don't you remember? We can't impose our religion on anybody. The wall of separation!!

Xylus
09-13-2008, 12:01 AM
We can't impose our religion on anybody.

Good, please don't.

Mr Dio
09-13-2008, 12:21 AM
Yes, standing at attention when out of uniform is the proper code of conduct and a salute while in uniform. At least it was when I was in the Corps.
Semper Fi!!



Semper Fi Joe!

Yeah, DRob was an O in the Navy so thumbs along the trouser seams while out of uniform was correct.

RandomGuy
09-13-2008, 09:48 AM
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a168/ichingcarpenter/screen-capture-3-6.png

I know. It's ridiculous.

Are people on the right going to be incensed?

What will Hannity say?

OMG, she must be a muslim!

Spurminator
09-13-2008, 10:30 AM
It seems to me the most likely scenario is that the Anthem was about to be played, but hasn't started yet. Some people placed their hand over their heart before others. People next to each other also tend to react as others.

Or.. it could be a photo-shop of two pictures a few moments apart.

Or it could be that she didn't put her hand over her heart and it's not that big of a fucking deal.

Wild Cobra
09-13-2008, 09:48 PM
Or it could be that she didn't put her hand over her heart and it's not that big of a fucking deal.
Impossible.

That many military personnel not saluting?

Impossible. They train to do so at the start anyway. Not before.

Mr. Peabody
09-13-2008, 10:02 PM
Impossible.

That many military personnel not saluting?

Impossible. They train to do so at the start anyway. Not before.

Maybe she was lost in thought reminiscing about the Pledge, those Founding Fathers the wrote the Pledge, and how if the the phrase "Under God" was good enough for them, well then dammit, it's good enough for her.

Sarah Palin, answering a 2006 policy questionnaire:

Q: Are you offended by the phrase "Under God" in the Pledge of Allegiance? Why or why not?

PALIN: Not on your life. If it was good enough for the founding fathers, its good enough for me and I’ll fight in defense of our Pledge of Allegiance

Fun facts: when John McCain's grandfather graduated from the Naval Academy in 1906, the Pledge of Allegiance, as first written, was only fourteen years old. It would not be made the official pledge of the United States until 1942, six years after John McCain himself was born.

When John McCain was born, the words "Under God" were not in the Pledge. They would not appear there until 1954, during McCain's senior year of high school.

I like the generic appeal to the "Founding Fathers" when she doesn't know what she is talking about.

efrem1
09-13-2008, 10:32 PM
Maybe she was lost in thought reminiscing about the Pledge, those Founding Fathers the wrote the Pledge, and how if the the phrase "Under God" was good enough for them, well then dammit, it's good enough for her.


I like the generic appeal to the "Founding Fathers" when she doesn't know what she is talking about.

Mr. Peabody:

Remember my earlier statement about the myth of the wall of separation between church and state which was dreamed up by Justice Black in Everson v. Board of Education in 1947. Mythmaking comes from both sides.

Wild Cobra
09-13-2008, 11:09 PM
Maybe she was lost in thought reminiscing about the Pledge, those Founding Fathers the wrote the Pledge, and how if the the phrase "Under God" was good enough for them, well then dammit, it's good enough for her.


I like the generic appeal to the "Founding Fathers" when she doesn't know what she is talking about.
That's right. I prove you wrong on one lie you propagate, then you come up with another.

Unimpeachable source please....