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duncan228
09-14-2008, 01:37 AM
This had so much Spurs stuff in it that I put it here. Please move if it belongs in NBA Central. :)

OKC Thunder: The man with a plan (http://newsok.com/okc-thunder-the-man-with-a-plan/article/3297703/?mp=0)
By Mike Baldwin

The man charged with building an NBA winner in Oklahoma City, the whiz-kid behind the chic designer glasses, has grand designs.

Someday those designs could be called the Thunder Way, this franchise's model for the right way to — among other things — play, coach, teach, scout and be part of the community.

There probably won't be any public pronouncements on those ways. That's not how Sam Presti operates. The Thunder's 31-year-old general manager prefers life as the man behind the curtain. But it may be possible to learn something about those designs by getting to know the designer.

Oklahoma City NBA fans know Presti as a former San Antonio Spurs front office assistant overseeing an extreme team makeover using high draft picks and some shrewd salary-dumping trades. Here's what you might not know:

He's an accomplished drummer whose CDs benefitted a children's hospital. He once took six charging fouls in one Division III basketball game. His college professor calls him the hardest-working student he's had in 38 years as an educator.

Once you consider all that — and the story about how he talked the Spurs into drafting Tony Parker — you might see that the only "chic” thing about Sam Presti are those trendy eye glasses.

The Emerson experience

Emerson College law professor Mike Brown had the reputation of giving more C's and D's than other instructors at the Boston private school. If students needed extra guidance, Brown said his door was open four mornings a week. One student took him up on the offer.

Sam Presti showed up early. All four days. Every week. For two months. Presti signed up for more of Brown's classes. They developed a friendship that lasted beyond college. Now retired, Brown said Presti was the hardest-working student he had in his 38-year career.

When former Concord-Carlisle (Mass.) High School basketball coach John McNamara was asked Presti's best traits, McNamara said: "He probably was the hardest working kid I ever saw come through here. He was an unselfish player. And he always put the team first.”

Those who know Presti best agree he's a 24/7/365 Energizer bunny. He's constantly asking questions. He's constantly collecting data. He's constantly searching for new ways to evaluate that data.

Hank Smith, longtime coach at Emerson, told his wife the day the Spurs hired Presti that Emerson's first Rhodes Scholar candidate would be a GM by age 35. Presti beat that prediction by five years.

Smith had come to expect boldness from Presti. After all, in one game at Emerson, Presti took six charging fouls. As a team captain, Presti required every teammate to sign a contract that stipulated a player could be booted off the team if they didn't play hard.

"He was the same in practice as he was in games,” he said of Presti, who graduated from Emerson in 2001 with a bachelor's degree in communications, politics and law. "That's what separates him from other players I've ever coached. He had such a tremendous work ethic and a sense of team. There's nothing he's not prepared for. He's a perfectionist. He'll work until it's right.”

Presti's work ethic applies to every aspect of his life. He's an accomplished drummer but the sticks aren't even a hobby these days due to a hectic schedule. Those drum skills, though, helped Presti organize a group of musicians to produce CDs that benefited the Extra Ordinary Needs Fund at Children's Hospital in Boston.

"He just wanted to do something for those children,” Smith said. "College kids don't have much money. In Division III there are no scholarships. The kids pay for everything. That's the kind of person Sam Presti is. He has a tremendous basketball mind but he's more than that.”

The Spurs model

Presti's NBA journey grew from the help he gave an Emerson teammate, who was fighting through an emotional knee injury. Presti's kindness and support were returned when the player's father introduced Presti to R.C. Buford at a basketball camp in Aspen, Colo.

The pair hit it off and Buford, the San Antonio Spurs general manager offered Presti a $250-a-month internship.

"He's really bright,” Buford said. "He has a great feel not only for basketball but for people. He's very diligent. He's very thorough whether it's decision making or processing.”

Presti's breakthrough moment occurred with the Spurs in the spring of 2001. The Spurs were evaluating a young guard from France. Tony Parker performed miserably in a private workout in Chicago against 34-year-old veteran Lance Blanks.

Convinced Parker was special, Presti compiled a 10-minute Parker highlight video to refute every concern the organization had. The rest is history: The Spurs drafted Parker with the 28th pick and have won three NBA titles with him at point guard.

Presti deflects praise. To Presti, the NBA is a player's game. Players are on ESPN highlight reels. Players win games. His job is to stay in the background and acquire players that fit the Thunder way.

He's sometimes labeled a salary cap wizard but you'll rarely hear him rattle off statistics. Instead, he uses terms such as vision, creating an environment, establishing a culture, becoming part of the community.

"I very much support his approach to building this organization on the basketball operations side,” said team chairman Clay Bennett. "But I'm most impressed with the man as an individual — his personal character, his loyalty, his sincerity in his relationships, his aspirations to always learn. His desire to always find ways to do things better is inspiring.”

It was hard for Presti not to get attention for his work with the Spurs. He eventually caught the eye of not just Bennett, but of Danny Ferry, who was then with San Antonio.

Danny Ferry once said we should listen to everything Sam said because was smarter than either one of us,” Buford said.

Ferry thought so much of Presti after five years together in San Antonio Ferry tried to bring Presti with him when he was named the Cavaliers general manager in 2005. The Spurs thought so much of Presti they promoted him to assistant general manager.

"Sam is organized, prepared, smart and works extremely hard,” Ferry said. "He's big on character. He has a great feel for the draft and players. And he's a quality person. He believes strongly in principles.”

Thunder coach P.J. Carlesimo saw those same characteristics the five seasons they worked together with the Spurs. Carlesimo was an assistant coach. Presti worked his way up the ranks, from intern to special assistant, then assistant director of scouting, director of player personnel and finally assistant general manager.

"You feel real good when you're a coach in this league when you have a general manager you know is going to work 24/7 and will do whatever he can,” Carlesimo said. "The two things you notice right away about Sam Presti are his intelligence and work ethic.”

The Thunder's time

Hiring Carlesimo was Presti's first big decision.

Presti and Carlesimo agree on a lot of things. One thing they'll never agree on is Major League Baseball. Presti is a Red Sox fan. Carlesimo is a Yankees fan.

Their relationship began when Carlesimo was hired in 2002 as a Spurs assistant following a tumultuous end as Golden State's head coach. Five years later, Presti felt the former Seton Hall coach was a good fit because he could develop young players, the first stage in Presti's long-term plan.

This wasn't a rash decision. Presti knew he was going to tear down the roster. He liked Carlesimo's college background and his affinity for defense.

"One of the main reasons I was excited about this job was Sam Presti,” Carlesimo said. "You knew it was a building situation. You knew it would be a challenge. You knew there would be some tough days in the beginning. But knowing Sam would be here, I knew he wanted to build a team the right way.

"Then I got a chance to meet Clay. Sam and Clay, those two guys are on the same page. They feel the same way about so many things it makes for a good situation. They're committed to doing it the right way, even if it takes a little longer. They want to build something that's going to last.”

Said Ferry: "When you're in a situation where you start over it doesn't happen overnight. You just can't snap your fingers. But Sam has the discipline to work hard. He isn't afraid to think outside the box. He'll do what he feels is necessary to put that team in position to succeed.”

General managers are graded on trades they make or don't make, free agents they sign or failed to sign and coaches they hire or fire.

"Sam is not afraid to pull the trigger,” Carlesimo said. "There are some GMs in this league who are not going to make a move until they know whether it's popular or unpopular. If he believes something is the right thing to do he's going to do it. He's made a few already. He's really good.”

Presti's vision is a methodical, long-term plan, acquiring players that fit the Thunder Way.

It will take time. The Thunder was 20-62 last season. But Ferry said sellout crowds will enhance Presti's off-season moves — drafting rookie Russell Westbrook, and trading for veterans Desmond Mason and Joe Smith.

"One thing that is really positive about the organization is all that energy with those tickets (sold last week),” Ferry said. "It will help put that organization in the best position to succeed. Players look at that and will feel the energy. It will help that team this year.

"Sometimes things work out better right away. Sometimes they don't. Sometimes you have to be lucky. They got lucky with Kevin Durant. Sam will now build around Durant. He is organized, smart and focused. He's trying to build it the right way.”

The Thunder Way.

tlongII
09-14-2008, 03:01 AM
Kevin Pritchard > Sam Presti

RuffnReadyOzStyle
09-14-2008, 04:10 AM
Kevin Pritchard > Sam Presti

...except for the three rings... :rolleyes

timtonymanu
09-14-2008, 05:34 AM
Kevin Pritchard > Sam Presti

let his roster get 3 rings first. otherwise Sam Presti > Kevin Pritchard.

RuffnReadyOzStyle
09-14-2008, 06:05 AM
let his roster get 3 rings first. otherwise Sam Presti > Kevin Pritchard.

Are ye blinde?

tlongII
09-14-2008, 12:40 PM
The 3 rings are because of Duncan, not Presti. Any neophyte NBA follower knows that Pritchard is the man with the plan. You're about to be Pritch-Slapped!

mikeanthony21
09-14-2008, 12:57 PM
The 3 rings are because of Duncan, not Presti. Any neophyte NBA follower knows the Pritchard is the man with the plan. You're about to be Pritch-Slapped!

...with all the ferocity of a swarm of gnats.

T Park
09-14-2008, 01:18 PM
Tlong has fallen into pathetic trolldom.

Put him on ignore and you'll be alot happier.

tlongII
09-14-2008, 02:15 PM
Tlong has fallen into pathetic trolldom.

Put him on ignore and you'll be alot happier.

The next time you make a worthwhile post will be the first time.

mikeanthony21
09-14-2008, 03:25 PM
The next time you make a worthwhile post will be the first time.

Dear Mr. tlong: When you type "the next time you make a worthwhile post..." you're stating that there has already been a worthwhile post therefore the "next time..." wouldn't be the first.

You're welcome. :toast

Kori Ellis
09-14-2008, 03:38 PM
Just a couple thoughts ... It's funny that this article makes it seem like Presti wanted PJ with the Sonics. I heard that Presti tried not to hire him and was basically told he had to do so by Bennett.

Secondly, I know Tlong is being an ass, but Kevin Pritchard is damn good.

He took the computer player evaluation/recruiting system that was developed by Presti (This system is used by several teams around the league and includes stats/tendencies/psych profile/matchups and a lot more) and then he enhanced the database quite a bit. He threw a lot of money and thought into it and his system is considered one of the best in the league.

Phenomanul
09-14-2008, 03:47 PM
I saw that game.... my sister also graduated with a communications degree from Emerson that year.

ploto
09-14-2008, 03:55 PM
Sam is my favorite so I admit my bias, but I would take either Sam or Kevin over RC any day.

tlongII
09-14-2008, 04:04 PM
Dear Mr. tlong: When you type "the next time you make a worthwhile post..." you're stating that there has already been a worthwhile post therefore the "next time..." wouldn't be the first.

You're welcome. :toast

You're right. My bad.

The Reckoning
09-14-2008, 06:16 PM
OKC is going to kill the Mavs fan basis

mikeanthony21
09-14-2008, 06:31 PM
OKC is going to kill the Mavs fan basis

Why? Has Mark Cuban given any indication that he was against the relocation of the Sonics to OKC?

duncan228
09-14-2008, 06:45 PM
Why? Has Mark Cuban given any indication that he was against the relocation of the Sonics to OKC?

Cuban opposes Sonics move (http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/basketball/358272_cuban09.html)
Owner to vote against bid
By GARY WASHBURN
April 8, 2008

DALLAS -- Dallas Mavericks owner Mark Cuban refuses to write Seattle off as an NBA city, even if city and state leaders aren't giving him any reason for his faithfulness.

Cuban, churning out miles on his Stairmaster, said Tuesday that he would vote against a Sonics' relocation to Oklahoma City, even if it means he is the lone owner to support the Sonics remaining in Seattle.

Cuban said he believes market size is critical.

Seattle is the 14th-largest media market while Oklahoma City is 45th.

"I'm going to wait to get all the information," he said before the Sonics' game against the Mavericks. "(But) my preference is the Sonics stay in Seattle. My prejudice is against having a Dustbowl Division in this part of the country because I don't think in the big picture that helps the NBA and I think the bigger market helps the NBA."

If the Sonics were to relocate to Oklahoma City, the NBA could move the OKC team to the Southwest Division along with the Mavericks, Spurs, Rockets, Hornets and Grizzlies. Cuban has not wavered in his support for Seattle, despite being informed that the Steve Ballmer-led investment group has pulled back its offer to help renovate KeyArena.

"There could be information that sways me," he said. "If they come back and said the Oklahoma City index is 200 when it comes to watching the NBA on TNT or ABC, and no one in Seattle watches, then OK maybe there's information that goes beyond market size.

"My prejudice is to vote them in but like everything else in the NBA, (the vote) will be 29-1."

Cuban said he would welcome Ballmer into the NBA ownership family and admires the Microsoft CEO's affection for the sport.

"I'd like to see Steve Ballmer in the NBA. It would be phenomenal," Cuban said. "I know Steve would get up early in the morning and play basketball. That tells you something. Is it a business or is it in your blood and you just love the game? That's one of the things I liked about Howard Schultz. I think he was sold a bill of goods from the NBA more than anything else."

Many Sonics fans believe Schultz triggered the team's potential relocation when he stunningly sold the Sonics to Clay Bennett's Oklahoma City-based ownership group in July 2006. Cuban doesn't view Schultz as a villain.

"There's a lot of things that aren't obvious until you look from the inside out about the NBA and our economics," Cuban said. "That's just the way it works. There's a reason why we're 0-for-since-I've-been-here in terms of our moves and expansions. You can always win the next game."

NBA commissioner David Stern said league owners have been "lukewarm" to the idea of expansion and Cuban said he would totally oppose any idea of expansion. He voted against the NBA's expansion to Charlotte in 2001.

"I would always vote against expansion because expansion's the worst economic move a league like the NBA can make," he said.

duncan228
09-14-2008, 07:01 PM
The final vote was 28-2.

Cuban, Allen Vote Against Sonics Move To OK City (http://sportsbybrooks.com/mark-cuban-paul-allen-vote-against-sonics-move-to-oklahoma-city-17275)

CBS SPORTS reports that Friday’s final tally was 28-2 in support of the move. The two owners casting the dissenting votes were Mark Cuban of the Dallas Mavericks and Paul Allen of the Portland Trail Blazers.

The Reckoning
09-14-2008, 07:12 PM
now people in the midwest don't have to flock to dallas for sports. i lived in arkansas for two years, and several people were cowboys and mavs fans just because they were the closest teams.

Biggems
09-14-2008, 07:26 PM
now people in the midwest don't have to flock to dallas for sports. i lived in arkansas for two years, and several people were cowboys and mavs fans just because they were the closest teams.

Arent the Grizzlies and Hornets, as well as the Titans and Saints close to Arkansas?

The Reckoning
09-14-2008, 07:43 PM
yeah but much of the population is in the northwest arkansas area with fayetteville and fort smith, which is on the OK border. the wal-mart and tyson headquarters are there as well, so it's also the fastest growing area in the region.

mikeanthony21
09-14-2008, 11:05 PM
Cuban opposes Sonics move (http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/basketball/358272_cuban09.html)
Owner to vote against bid
By GARY WASHBURN
April 8, 2008

DALLAS -- Dallas Mavericks owner Mark Cuban refuses to write Seattle off as an NBA city, even if city and state leaders aren't giving him any reason for his faithfulness.

Cuban, churning out miles on his Stairmaster, said Tuesday that he would vote against a Sonics' relocation to Oklahoma City, even if it means he is the lone owner to support the Sonics remaining in Seattle.

Cuban said he believes market size is critical.

Seattle is the 14th-largest media market while Oklahoma City is 45th.

"I'm going to wait to get all the information," he said before the Sonics' game against the Mavericks. "(But) my preference is the Sonics stay in Seattle. My prejudice is against having a Dustbowl Division in this part of the country because I don't think in the big picture that helps the NBA and I think the bigger market helps the NBA."

If the Sonics were to relocate to Oklahoma City, the NBA could move the OKC team to the Southwest Division along with the Mavericks, Spurs, Rockets, Hornets and Grizzlies. Cuban has not wavered in his support for Seattle, despite being informed that the Steve Ballmer-led investment group has pulled back its offer to help renovate KeyArena.

"There could be information that sways me," he said. "If they come back and said the Oklahoma City index is 200 when it comes to watching the NBA on TNT or ABC, and no one in Seattle watches, then OK maybe there's information that goes beyond market size.

"My prejudice is to vote them in but like everything else in the NBA, (the vote) will be 29-1."

Cuban said he would welcome Ballmer into the NBA ownership family and admires the Microsoft CEO's affection for the sport.

"I'd like to see Steve Ballmer in the NBA. It would be phenomenal," Cuban said. "I know Steve would get up early in the morning and play basketball. That tells you something. Is it a business or is it in your blood and you just love the game? That's one of the things I liked about Howard Schultz. I think he was sold a bill of goods from the NBA more than anything else."

Many Sonics fans believe Schultz triggered the team's potential relocation when he stunningly sold the Sonics to Clay Bennett's Oklahoma City-based ownership group in July 2006. Cuban doesn't view Schultz as a villain.

"There's a lot of things that aren't obvious until you look from the inside out about the NBA and our economics," Cuban said. "That's just the way it works. There's a reason why we're 0-for-since-I've-been-here in terms of our moves and expansions. You can always win the next game."

NBA commissioner David Stern said league owners have been "lukewarm" to the idea of expansion and Cuban said he would totally oppose any idea of expansion. He voted against the NBA's expansion to Charlotte in 2001.

"I would always vote against expansion because expansion's the worst economic move a league like the NBA can make," he said.

Is this the same Clay Bennett who tried to make a play for the Spurs back in the early '90s?

duncan228
09-14-2008, 11:15 PM
Is this the same Clay Bennett who tried to make a play for the Spurs back in the early '90s?

Yes. Piece of a News Tribune article, out of Tacoma Washington, October 2006:

Unwanted attention (http://dwb.thenewstribune.com/sports/sonics/story/6134030p-5370924c.html)
The man who will take over the SuperSonics franchise reluctantly puts himself in the spotlight


The Rangers shares of his in-laws’ company, OPUBCO (Oklahoma Publishing Co.), ultimately were sold to George W. Bush, which led to the family buying a 30 percent stake in the San Antonio Spurs basketball team in 1992.

Bennett served as the team’s representative on the NBA Board of Governors, though Wally Walker – who represented the Sonics for owner Ackerley Group during some of the same time period – says Bennett was not especially memorable. Those around the Spurs say Bennett kept a low profile, and even Bennett admits he had no relationship with current Sonics coach Bob Hill, who was coaching the Spurs at the time.

If nothing else, that foray in the NBA laid the foundation for what Bennett is pursuing with the Sonics, and is at least part of the reason he is the team’s public representative.

duncan228
09-14-2008, 11:21 PM
A little more:

About Clay Bennett (http://www.washingtonceo.com/home/story-display/article/222/about-clay-b.html)


His first opportunity was a large minority stake in the NBA's San Antonio Spurs. The team's owner was looking to sell to an out-of-town group, while the business community was looking for capital to keep the team local. Bennett, who had some holdings in San Antonio, made an investment that helped keep the team in town. He sold his share, however, when the Spurs started negotiations for a new arena. Bennett's out-of-towner status had been a sticking point in negotiations for public funding.

Bennett says his experience with the Spurs gave him a taste for team ownership that was further developed by his role in helping the New Orleans Hornets temporarily relocate to his hometown.

IronMexican
09-14-2008, 11:24 PM
OKC is going to kill the Mavs fan basis

They already stole Mono.

The Truth #6
09-14-2008, 11:54 PM
A little more:

About Clay Bennett (http://www.washingtonceo.com/home/story-display/article/222/about-clay-b.html)

"The team's owner was looking to sell to an out-of-town group, while the business community was looking for capital to keep the team local."

Not to get off topic, but the team owner that was trying to sell out of town, that had to have been McCombs at that moment, correct? I hadn't seen it written as clearly before where it insinuates the owner at the time wanted to sell it to a group to allow them to take the team away. If that's true, then doesn't that put McCombs in a much worse light?

I know this old news in general, but I had never seen it verified like this.

Tully365
09-15-2008, 12:23 PM
Ah, I see. Presti and Pritchard are geniuses because their teams, stocked with early first round draft picks, didn't make the playoffs. But Portland finished the season 41-41, which is extremely exciting. But RC is clueless because the Spurs lost in the WCF last season with Manu injured, and despite making the playoffs every year for the past decade, have only managed to win the NBA title four times, meaning that 6 times in the last decade they've failed. That's a 60% failure rate. Damn those underachieving Spurs and that awful GM RC Buford! We need a team that doesn't make the playoffs for 5 years but shows huge potential-- that's the true sign of success.