DNC Reform endorses McCain

[whottt]

http://www.dncreform.com/

New Action Alert!!

DNCReform formally endorses John McCain for President of the United States and Sarah Palin for Vice President of the United States.
Many of you are aware we (DNCRefom) chose not to jump on the John McCain bandwagon while genuine efforts were being made to see the actual Democratic Primary WINNER, Hillary Rodham Clinton, gain the nomination in Denver. Our efforts along with everyone else's were valiant but went ignored. We feel that the best presidential candidate to represent American is John McCain. We feel he will bring a much needed fiscal conservatism to Washington along with genuine change and reform to the status quo Washington politics. Sen. John McCain has always been a "maverick" and moderate politician, who is not afraid to challenge his party. Senator McCain is someone that voters can trust and respect. Governor Palin is also a "maverick" politician, who has stood up to her party, exposed and ended corruption and has exhibited fiscal responsibility, in her capacities as Governor of the Great State of Alaska, and former Mayor of Wasilla, AK. We feel that she will truly complement and enhance the administration of future President John McCain. There are currently no other candidates in the race that can measure up to Senator John McCain or Governor Sarah Palin.



:lmao

[whottt]

So let's see...

Leiberman
That NH Rep
These guys

[Nbadan]

:sleepy

Does this topic really need two threads?......delete this thread....

[Crookshanks]

So let's see...

Leiberman
That NH Rep
These guys

But they're all really closet GOPers - just ask dan... :downspin:
:

[Nbadan]

Yeah, Lieberman is objective...

:rolleyes

[Mr. Peabody]

These people are opposing every Democratic candidate according to their website.

Nope, no Republicans here. All Democratic voters. Yup, yup.:lol

[whottt]

These people are opposing every Democratic candidate according to their website.

Nope, no Republicans here. All Democratic voters. Yup, yup.:lol


They're Clinton Democrats. Read the history of the site.

[whottt]

Yeah, Lieberman is objective...

:rolleyes



So was Leiberman always a bad guy, you know like when he was on the Democratic VP ticket, pr just when it suits you?


Thy hypochrisy is astounding.

[Nbadan]

Whott...Clinton herself is campaigning for Obama.....

[Nbadan]

So was Leiberman always a bad guy, you know like when he was on the Democratic VP ticket, pr just when it suits you?

Lieberman was a mistake, but he switches allegiances like most of us change under-ware...says a lot about his character or lack of....

[whottt]

Whott...Clinton herself is campaigning for Obama.....

:lol

You just keep telling yourself that.

[Nbadan]

Show me where you see different...or quit talking out of your ass

[whottt]

Lieberman was a mistake, but he switches allegiances like most of us change under-ware...says a lot about his character or lack of....



Hmmmm...which in turn says a lot about the candidates the Democrats put on their tickets.

[Nbadan]

Hmmmm...which in turn says a lot about the candidates the Democrats put on their tickets.

In case you haven't noticed, there is a big difference between the candidates of 2000 and the candidates of 2008....that's like comparing Reagan to McSame....

[IceColdBrewski]

Whott...Clinton herself is campaigning for Obama.....

Barely. But I'm sure the fact that Obama is paying off her campaign debt has nothing to do with that.

"Save me Hillary! Save me!" :lol

[Mr. Peabody]

Right, just like Darragh Murphy is a Democrat....

JUV8PZdizYE

[Nbadan]

Barely. But I'm sure the fact that Obama is paying off her campaign debt has nothing to do with that. :lol


I'm not sure if that is true or not, but even if he is paying off a portion of it, so what? She could be part of his cabinet....

[whottt]

Show me where you see different...or quit talking out of your ass



Ok...Hillary campaigned in Florida. As soon as she left Florida locked up for the Republicans.


Hillary campaigned in Penn, as soon as she left McCain pulled ahead in that state.


What she's doing is toeing the Democratic line publicly, not trashign McCain and Palin, and her actions are totally transparent...and then privately she's telling all the Clinton supporters what's really going on with the Democratric Party in those areas...

That's why Obama's camapaign is crashing and burning everywhere she goes.



And I can honestly say...I've never seen Bill Clinton more pissed off than he was during the primaries this year, and it wasn't at the Republicans.







After this election when Dean Pelosi and co get put on out on their far left asses, the Clintons will again be in charge of the Democratic Party.


They can't leave the party...but everytime they open their mouths the first thing people wonder is why you guys didn't put Hillary on the ticket...

And you have no good answers for that.


and McCain pulls ahead of Obama.

[whottt]

The questions that the Democrats need to be asking themselves...


If you didn't need the Clintons on your ticket...then why ask them to fight your battles for you?


Hypocrites.

[SpursFanFirst]

:lol

You just keep telling yourself that.

I'm with you. I truly don't think the Clintons are backing Obama.

BTW, I haven't seen it mentioned in this forum, but I heard that B. Clinton made negative comments against Obama at the time of the DNC. There was an open mic.
Has anyone else heard this?

I haven't seen it mentioned in news articles, but someone I work with told me about it.

[Nbadan]

Same old Whott.....calling the game over at Halftime...

[IceColdBrewski]

http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/4897




Hillary Blows Off Obama


By Bob Parks Monday, September 8, 2008


With the unexpected surge of McCain through his veep selection of Sarah Palin, Barack Obama turned to Hillary Clinton so he doesn’t have to hit the girl. Remember what they say about a woman scorned?

Hillary does.

HILLARY Clinton may be the most obvious choice to throw into the ring against the new darling of American politics, Sarah Palin, but the failed Democratic presidential candidate is refusing the job.

“We’re not going to be anybody’s attack dog against Sarah Palin,” a Clinton insider said yesterday.

It’s an extraordinary act of hubris from a woman whose success in exposing Barack Obama’s weakness in working-class Democratic states such as Pennsylvania, Ohio and Indiana may have been the reason that John McCain chose a gun-toting, God-loving mother of five as his running mate.

Although she is 60 and unlikely to have another shot at the White House, Clinton is apparently concerned that she would appear ungenerous to the Republicans’ first female vice-presidential candidate if she were to go after her.

Of course, nothing’s in stone when it comes to politics. But what does Hillary Clinton have to gain doing Barack Obama’s dirty work? Obama doesn’t want to pick apart Palin because it’ll make himself look mean, yet he expects Hillary to want to take those hits.

Yeah, that’s a good deal.

Yeah, Hillary sure is working hard to get Obama elected. :lol

[whottt]

I'm with you. I truly don't think the Clintons are backing Obama.

BTW, I haven't seen it mentioned in this forum, but I heard that B. Clinton made negative comments against Obama at the time of the DNC. There was an open mic.
Has anyone else heard this?

I haven't seen it mentioned in news articles, but someone I work with told me about it.


The Democrats threw the Clintons under the bus. They called Bill Clinton racist, they were calling Hillary Hitlary.


If I truly thought the Clintons were supporting Obama...I would lose respect for them after the way they got treated by the Democratic Party. That would definitely be a case of returning to their abusers.

Basically the stuff the Democrats are doing now is the same thing they did to Hillary...


The race card is coming soon...it'll blow up in their faces and the last few remaining Democrats with integrity will realize this is exactly what they saw during the primaries...

[Crookshanks]

I'm with you. I truly don't think the Clintons are backing Obama.

I'd love to be a fly on the wall at a private closed get together with the Clintons and their close personal friends. I bet they're really trashing Obama and laughing their heads off that he's now begging them to help him get elected. Obama would wet himself if he heard what they really think of him!

[Nbadan]

Canada?!?

:lol

[Nbadan]

I'd love to be a fly on the wall at a private closed get together with the Clintons and their close personal friends. I bet they're really trashing Obama and laughing their heads off that he's now begging them to help him get elected. Obama would wet himself if he heard what they really think of him!

You mean like McSame and Romney?

[SpursFanFirst]

For crying out loud...I'm so tired of people calling the candidates by silly nicknames.

[whottt]

For crying out loud...I'm so tired of people calling the candidates by silly nicknames.


IF you want to see how full of crap Dan is on this...do a forum seach on his name and Hitlary.

Never mind...I'll do it for you:


http://spurstalk.com/forums/search.php?searchid=917198


52 references of Nbadan calling Hillary Hitlary.









He trashed her...and now he's pretending like it didn't happen.


The exact same thing that the Obama campaign and the media did to Hillary.


And they call the Republicans liars.

[SpursFanFirst]

IF you want to see how full of crap Dan is on this...do a forum seach on his name and Hitlary.

Never mind...I'll do it for you:


http://spurstalk.com/forums/search.php?searchid=917198


52 references of Nbadan calling Hillary Hitlary.









He trashed her...and now he's pretending like it didn't happen.


The exact same thing that the Obama campaign and the media did to Hillary.


And they call the Republicans liars.


It just gets really old. I feel like I'm on a playground with some of these posters.

[whottt]

It just gets really old. I feel like I'm on a playground with some of these posters.


If you think this forum is bad you should see some of the Obama rallies.

Most of those Hillary supporters that are refusing to support Obama are doing so because they got called bitch slut and whore at Obama rallies.

If you doubt this, just do a forum seach on Palin and posters like buddy holly, and see what they called her.

[SpursFanFirst]

If you think this forum is bad you should see some of the Obama rallies.

Most of those Hillary supporters that are refusing to support Obama are doing so because they got called bitch slut and whore at Obama rallies.

If you doubt this, just do a forum seach on Palin and posters like buddy holly, and see what they called her.

I don't doubt it at all. Pitiful.

[Anti.Hero]

Obamassiah was cool until the mainstream caught on. :depressed

[PEP]

Yeah, Lieberman is objective...

:rolleyes

Yeah he was your VP in 2000, I bet if Gore had won back then you'd be orgasmic about him right now.

Hell the only thing Lieberman is good for is supporting the war effort, other than that he's a crazy liberal.

[Nbadan]

IF you want to see how full of crap Dan is on this...do a forum seach on his name and Hitlary.

Never mind...I'll do it for you:

Did Hitlary win? Well, there you go...

[Nbadan]

I don't doubt it at all. Pitiful.

Whott supported the war before he was aganist it, now he's for the war again...but short term cred is just that, short-term...that's why Whott disappears when the shit starts to hit the fan for the GOP..

:lol

[whottt]

Whott supported the war before he was aganist it,

Lie...I never posted on this political forum before we were in Iraq.

I protested before we went int...once we went it was too late to turn back, even if meant voting for W because the Dems refused to provide anything other than an extremist alternative.






now he's for the war again

No I'm not...I'm for the same thing I always was for, pulling out in conjunction with the Iraqi government.



...but short term cred is just that, short-term...that's why Whott disappears when the shit starts to hit the fan for the GOP..

:lol

Nah...I just get tired of refuting the lies, plus there is no changing your mind. You are going to consume leftist propaganda, and there is nothing I will ever be able to do to stop it.

It is extremist though, and the rest of America isn't going to all of a sudden embrace it.



It's not that I'm Pro-War...it's that I'm anti-convenient pullout.

And the war is winnable...and the logic behind it isn't near as stupid as you guys make it out to be if your goal is to remove the dictatorial regimes in the mid-east.

[whottt]

I don't doubt it at all. Pitiful.

Here's another one:




Actuarially, McWorse has a 1 in 3 chance of not living until Jan 2013, not that there's anything wrong with that (apart from putting a lying, vindictive, power-abusing secretive, classless pitbull bitch in the WH).



See what I mean?

Fucking bigot...absolute trash. Surprised he didn't say anything about dinosaurs like all the other idiots are doing.

[Supergirl]

That link has bogus, dummy-link all over it.

Probably created by Republican internet trolls.

[Findog]

http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/4897



Yeah, Hillary sure is working hard to get Obama elected. :lol


Actually, the Dems should probably show some restraint on Sarah Palin. It's okay for undecided voters to like her. Just because you like the Veep nominee doesn't mean you're going to vote for a ticket. Excessive personal bashing will make the Dems look like bullies and backfire. Hillary only needs to point out that she and Palin differ on the issues. If somebody voted for Hillary because they want a woman to be President, Sarah Palin is going to be a tempting consolation prize. If somebody voted for Hillary because they want a liberal woman to be President, I don't see what appeal Palin holds. I'm just glad that Hillary is out stumping for Obama in Ohio. I was afraid the Clintons were going to sit on their hands and just pay lip service to Obama being elected.

The correct play for the Dems is to ignore Palin and let the novelty of Palin mania die down. It is primarily being driven by the GOP base and the news media. They need to save most of their rhetorical fire for John McCain, who doesn't excite anybody, Dems, Independents and Repubs, at the top of the ticket. Looks like the Dems are starting to get it.

[Findog]

http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5...t6UJiA8xD7JcHw

WASHINGTON (AFP) — Barack Obama seems finally to have hit on a strategy to fight the Sarah Palin phenomenon: sidestep the feisty Republican vice presidential pick and turn full fire on an "out of touch" John McCain.

Palin's explosive debut left Obama's Democratic White House campaign flailing for an initial response as she trumped him as the freshest and most magnetic character in the history-making 2008 race.

Appearing on the "Late Show with David Letterman" Wednesday, the first African-American with a serious shot at the White House mused ruefully on how he had been upstaged.

"We didn't know much about her. Honestly, she's a skilled politician. There's no doubt that she has been a phenomenon," Obama said.

The Alaska governor made instant converts of the Republican conservative base, kick-started McCain's misfiring campaign and wiped out Obama's small but consistent leads in national opinion polls.

But the Democrat is now firing back -- branding 72-year-old McCain as an economic illiterate stuck in the pre-Internet era, while vowing to parry a negative post-convention Republican barrage.

"I think Palin's candidacy was such a surprise and she was such an unknown that it threw off the Obama campaign and drew them away from their message," said Kathleen Kendall of the University of Maryland.

Early Obama camp responses to Palin's broadsides seemed churlish, open to Republican complaints of sexism and left a candidate determined to elevate political discourse stuck in the trenches of snarling soundbite politics.

As visions of defeat on November 4 and Democratic panic engulfed liberal blogs, the Obama camp had a rethink.

The new battleplan turns the heat on McCain, and not his charismatic sidekick.

A day after Obama huddled with Bill Clinton, one of the former president's top aides, political bruiser Rahm Emanuel, led a fresh bid to frame the choice before voters -- with a distinctly Clintonian tone.

"What John McCain is offering you is two for one," the Illinois congressman said.

"George (W.) Bush's economic policies and Dick Cheney's foreign policy -- you're going to get four more years of just what you got for the last eight years."

Later Friday, Emanuel passed up a chance on MSNBC to critique Palin's shaky performance in her first major television interview.

A blistering memo by Obama campaign manager David Plouffe only mentioned the Alaska governor in passing. For the first time in days the Illinois Senator skipped references to Palin at a rally in New Hampshire Friday.

Their reasoning was clear: deprive Palin of the spotlight and make a new attempt to twin McCain with unpopular Republican President Bush.

Ironically, Bush's political guru Karl Rove warned in a Wall Street Journal article on Thursday that attacking Palin was bad politics for Obama.

"These assaults highlight his own tissue-thin resume, waste precious time better spent reassuring voters he is up for the job and diminish him -- not her," Rove wrote.

Democrats view Rove with a mixture of dread and awe, and might ask, if Palin has been so influential, shouldn't the party try to take her down?

"It is not a good idea to dwell on her," said Bruce Buchanan, a political analyst at the University of Texas at Austin.

"Sooner or later it is going to be about McCain again."

But will an assault on McCain also dim Palin's influence on the race?

Polls in battleground states reveal that Palin is drawing increasing support among the crucial voter group of white, working class women.

In Quinnipiac University surveys, McCain's support among white women voters grew four percentage points in Ohio and five points in Pennsylvania since August 26.

Cue Hillary Clinton: the Democratic former first lady and Obama's vanquished primary foe was set to campaign for Obama in northeastern Ohio on Sunday, no doubt aiming to fire up her white, working-class base for Obama.

Clinton has so far not publicly attacked Palin, amid reports she does not want to detract from the Obama campaign with a headline-grabbing public spat with the Alaska governor.

But the shape of the electorate also suggests that Clinton alone may not be a decisive factor in stemming the flow of women away from Obama towards McCain.

"Hillary got about 10 million votes in the Democratic primary from women," said Peter Brown of the Quinnipiac University polling institute.

"You will probably see about 62 million women vote in November -- it's the other 52 million that Palin is aimed at -- if they get some of the Hillary voters that is gravy."

[SnakeBoy]

Bill Clinton is working hard to get Obama elected...

"Suppose for example you're a voter. And you've got candidate X and candidate Y. Candidate X agrees with you on everything, but you don't think that person can deliver on anything. Candidate Y disagrees with you on half the issues, but you believe that on the other half, the candidate will be able to deliver. For whom would you vote? This has nothing to do with what's going on now."

I love the "This has nothing to do with what's going on now." part. :rollin

[2centsworth]

Hillary's play is not to piss off the Obama crowd while hoping McCain wins, so that in 2012 she can make another run.