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Allanon
09-15-2008, 07:50 AM
CBS Sportsline had this article I thought was pretty good...although I still think Yao is better than DHo right now...more range and better free throw shooter. I'm guessing Chris Bosh is not on this list because he's actually a power forward like Duncan/Al Jefferson.

Al Horford is probably ranked a little too low although he's more of a power forward as well.

I think Oden will be considered in the top 5 towards the end of the season.

And I toldja all I wasn't crazy when I said Bynum is the best Center not named Yao/DHo. And the homer in me wouldn't be surprised if Bynum makes a move on the #1 or #2 spot by the end of the season.



Top 20 Centers: Get in line behind Superman

http://www.sportsline.com/nba/story/10977659

Dwight Howard is a long, long way from reaching his lofty goal of being one of the best to ever play the game, but he certainly is pointed in the right direction.
http://images.sportsline.com/u/photos/basketball/nba/img10977661.jpg At age 22, Howard already is the best center in the NBA as he prepares for his fifth season with the Orlando Magic, who are building their franchise and their future hopes around him.
At a time when his position's prominence in the game has diminished, Howard has risen to the top with a rare combination of power and athleticism, showing just a hint of how dominating a great center can be.
His breakout season -- a league-leading 14.2 rebounds, along with 20.7 points and 2.1 blocks -- might be only a preview, merely a tip of his vast potential.
While most of the contenders are banking on perimeter play to carry them, Howard will show that his position has not grown obsolete or insignificant.
Here are the top 20 centers in the NBA, based on players' projected impact on the 2008-09 season:
1. Dwight Howard (http://www.sportsline.com/nba/players/playerpage/498287), Orlando: Howard still has plenty of room and time to grow as an NBA star. The Superman cape he unveiled last All-Star Weekend might not be too much of a stretch. He should start leaping tall buildings soon, eager to continue expanding his game. The Magic have no excuse if they can't build a serious contender around this inside force.
2. Yao Ming (http://www.sportsline.com/nba/players/playerpage/307933), Houston: It's time for Yao to start acting and playing like a former No. 1 pick and lead the Rockets deep into the playoffs. With both Tracy McGrady and Ron Artest alongside him, there should be no reason why Yao can't get the Rockets past any of the Western contenders.
3. Andrew Bynum (http://www.sportsline.com/nba/players/playerpage/555938), Los Angeles Lakers: After missing all the playoff fun last season, Bynum could either disrupt what the Lakers had or put them over the top. Now going into his fourth season (directly from high school), he has shown some enormous talent. His trick will be making it fit on a team that reached the NBA Finals without him.
4. Shaquille O'Neal (http://www.sportsline.com/nba/players/playerpage/6725), Phoenix: Sure, he has slowed considerably. He is not as hungry anymore, but he still is a dominating presence around the basket. He is counting down the days to retirement, but if Shaq takes his conditioning seriously, the Suns will give him a chance to add one more championship ring before he leaves the game. And that could motivate him this season.
5. Marcus Camby (http://www.sportsline.com/nba/players/playerpage/6505), Los Angeles Clippers: It's hard to ask for anything more than 13.1 rebounds and 3.6 blocks a game from a center, which still makes Camby valuable, even if Denver didn't want him anymore. From a fantasy perspective, his value will go down when he has to share the lane with Chris Kaman. Together, they should give the Clips a defensive presence.
6. Rasheed Wallace (http://www.sportsline.com/nba/players/playerpage/6837), Detroit: Yes, he's a strange dude, but it's hard to fault his skill set. He can guard the big guys inside, then cause serious matchup problems at the other end with his long-range shooting. He gave Howard and the Magic fits in the playoffs last spring, but he also gives his teammates fits.
7. Jermaine O'Neal (http://www.sportsline.com/nba/players/playerpage/6724), Toronto: Life soured in Indiana, but the move to Toronto should revitalize his career. His presence will allow Chris Bosh to move to power forward, giving the Raptors a nice frontcourt. Remember, O'Neal once averaged 20/10 in back-to-back seasons. And he is only 29 years old, hoping to regain the status he once had.
8. Greg Oden (http://www.sportsline.com/nba/players/playerpage/1231890), Portland: He missed all of last season after being the No. 1 pick in the draft, but he will join the league now with a vengeance, making sure his presence is felt. The year off will relieve the pressure of being a No. 1 pick, making his debut season even more impressive.
9. Emeka Okafor (http://www.sportsline.com/nba/players/playerpage/498302), Charlotte: As long as he understands his role and limitations, he is more than adequate as a center. After a great college career, he came into the league with over-inflated expectations heaped upon him. He is a defender/rebounder who would do well on a better team, but he gets exposed and criticized because he can't carry a bad team like the Bobcats.
10. Tyson Chandler (http://www.sportsline.com/nba/players/playerpage/240273), New Orleans: Although their point guard gets all the credit, the Hornets would not be a contender without Chandler, who has begun to shine after a slow start in Chicago. He needs to block more shots, but averaging a double-double (11.8 ppg and 11.7 rpg) makes him comfortable in his role. Should score a little more this season.
11. Chris Kaman (http://www.sportsline.com/nba/players/playerpage/400556), Los Angeles Clippers: His role looks a little uncertain with Marcus Camby on the roster, but that doesn't take away from a career season. Kaman averaged 15.7 points, 12.7 rebounds and 2.7 blocks with Elton Brand on the sideline. If Baron Davis will pass him the ball, Kaman will score, but it's unlikely he will get the opportunities he had last season.
12. Zydrunas Ilgauskas (http://www.sportsline.com/nba/players/playerpage/6628), Cleveland: His toughest assignment is making sure he stays out of the way of LeBron James. Ilgauskas' skills have eroded, but he still can hit the open jumper, make a good pass and guard the slower centers in the league. He needs lots of help trying to guard the younger centers.
13. Samuel Dalembert (http://www.sportsline.com/nba/players/playerpage/240280), Philadelphia: He doesn't know it yet, but he will benefit greatly from the addition of Elton Brand, who will garner all the attention around the basket. Dalembert won't have to worry about scoring, which he doesn't do well. Instead, he can focus on what he does do well, and that's rebound and block shots. If he improves his post defense, he can really help turn the 76ers into contenders in the East.
14. Andrew Bogut (http://www.sportsline.com/nba/players/playerpage/555937), Milwaukee: Another former No. 1 pick who has been viewed as a disappointment because expectations were too high. Won't ever be a star, but he can be more than adequate. Watch for new coach Scott Skiles to ramp him up a notch. If he can raise his intensity level, Bogut can help bring the Bucks back to respectability.
15. Al Horford (http://www.sportsline.com/nba/players/playerpage/1231877), Atlanta: A little out of position, but he handles it well, using his youth and athleticism to provide what the Hawks need at this spot. Had a good rookie season, which gave a young team hope for the future. He is a smart player with a good work ethic, and he should improve considerably this season.
16. Brad Miller (http://www.sportsline.com/nba/players/playerpage/119728), Sacramento: Wiley veteran who still has a nice, well-rounded game. Averaged 3.7 assists, which is tops among all centers in the league. Isn't good enough to carry a team, but he was fine when the Kings were good. On this bad team, some of his talents get wasted. For a guy who never was drafted, he has done well through a 10-year career.
17. Kendrick Perkins (http://www.sportsline.com/nba/players/playerpage/400566), Boston: Virtually invisible while playing in the shadow of the Big Three, but you can't discount the contributions he made for the NBA champions. He understood his role, and he did it well. He averaged just 6.9 points and 6.1 rebounds, but he also shot 61.5 percent from the field. Will want to spread his wings a little more this season.
18. Mehmet Okur (http://www.sportsline.com/nba/players/playerpage/240303), Utah: Another one of those unconventional centers who would rather play on the perimeter and shoot the 3-pointers. He does give Carlos Boozer room to work inside. With coach Jerry Sloan riding him, Okur has proved he can play under pressure. Needs to improve defensively to give the Jazz a chance to compete in the West, but he has carved a useful role on an improving team.
19. Andris Biedrins (http://www.sportsline.com/nba/players/playerpage/498273), Golden State: Really isn't a conventional center, but the Warriors are so unconventional that he fits in well. Coming off his best NBA season -- 10.5 points and 9.8 rebounds -- Biedrins has grown into a nice NBA player. His problem is guarding the other big guys.
20. Brendan Haywood (http://www.sportsline.com/nba/players/playerpage/240289), Washington: Always seems to get blamed for Washington's failures, but he has given the Wizards some consistency around the basket. He'll never be anything more than an average center, but the lack of good centers in today's game actually makes him look respectable.

phyzik
09-15-2008, 09:30 AM
I think its crazy to put Bynum at #3 on this list ESPECIALLY since he has missed so much playing time. He had a few good months of basketball and hasnt played since. Everyone and their mothers is hyping this kid like he is the next Shaq.

All Im saying is let the dude prove it before slobbering all over his johnson, he hasnt proven anything yet.

21_Blessings
09-15-2008, 09:40 AM
I think its crazy to put Bynum at #3 on this list ESPECIALLY since he has missed so much playing time. He had a few good months of basketball and hasnt played since. Everyone and their mothers is hyping this kid like he is the next Shaq.

While the injury angle is valid, you're still retarded. Bynum was absolutely playing like a top 5 center before he went down. You do realize the Lakers were the number one seed at the time right? Did you miss the game where he held Duncan to 5 points? Or where he dominated Kaman, Amare and Bogut?

Bynum at TWENTY YEARS OLD is already a better defender and rebounder than Yao Ming. If you think that doesn't mean anything then you know nothing about basketball.



All Im saying is let the dude prove it before slobbering all over his johnson, he hasnt proven anything yet.


Funny how you don't mention Oden when he hasn't even set foot on a NBA court yet they put him at 8. Bynum HAS PROVEN he can play a dominant level. Maybe you should watch basketball that doesnt' involve SA sometime.

phyzik
09-15-2008, 09:47 AM
maybe laker fan should step back for a second. I agree with you on Oden as well, people are jumping on this dudes nuts like crazy. I've seen Oberto play like a top 10 center before but that doesnt mean shit. Im not saying the dude doesnt have the talent. Its definately there, but quit acting like he is just going to come back and continue where he left off. For all anyone knows that could have been just a hot streak.

Red Hawk #21
09-15-2008, 09:49 AM
Big Al getting snubbed again...

tlongII
09-15-2008, 09:54 AM
Oden will be #1 after a couple of weeks of the season.

The Franchise
09-15-2008, 11:32 AM
While the injury angle is valid, you're still retarded. Bynum was absolutely playing like a top 5 center before he went down. You do realize the Lakers were the number one seed at the time right? Did you miss the game where he held Duncan to 5 points? Or where he dominated Kaman, Amare and Bogut?

Bynum at TWENTY YEARS OLD is already a better defender and rebounder than Yao Ming. If you think that doesn't mean anything then you know nothing about basketball.





Funny how you don't mention Oden when he hasn't even set foot on a NBA court yet they put him at 8. Bynum HAS PROVEN he can play a dominant level. Maybe you should watch basketball that doesnt' involve SA sometime.

Unjustifiable nut hugging.

21_Blessings
09-15-2008, 11:37 AM
maybe I've seen Oberto play like a top 10 center .

No, no you haven't because that never happened nor does he have that ability.

Tully365
09-15-2008, 01:25 PM
I love watching D Howard play, but as the current best center in the nba, he does have some shortcomings. Will he ever carry a team in the same way that Kareem was able to? Or Olajuwon? Or Bill Russell? Howard doesn't have the post moves of a classic center yet, and probably isn't as good as a young Duncan or a young Robinson... he's not an assist guy (even with a team of outside shooters) and is a much worse free throw shooter than Duncan... so will he ever win a championship as the #1 player on a team?

TheMACHINE
09-15-2008, 01:41 PM
If Oden can be #8, no one should be complaining that Bynum is #3.

tlongII
09-15-2008, 04:49 PM
Oden's stock is going to drop past 20 after he meets Bynum on opening day. And please... Oberto is not even a top 30 center... what a fucking waste that guy is. We have an Oberto in the name of Chris Mihm rotting on our bench:lol

Will Bynum even score a single point on opening night? He's going to get thrashed.

diego
09-15-2008, 06:49 PM
looking at this list, its clear how pathetic the center position is right now. do any of these guys even crack top 25 overall? if they do, it is just BARELY.

Duncan, KG and even Dirk are way better inside players than all of these guys.

Lakers_55
09-15-2008, 09:27 PM
Wait a minute....I thought Shaq was Superman. This is a call for Rappin' Shaq!

21_Blessings
09-15-2008, 09:28 PM
Dirk are way better inside players than all of these guys.

You. Are. Fucking. Retarded.

Reggie Miller
09-15-2008, 09:31 PM
No, no you haven't because that never happened nor does he have that ability.

Game Four - 2007 Finals.

Maybe you should watch a few games that don't feature the Lakers...

Anyone in the league has the ability to play like the 10th best player at their position if the sample size is small enough. Think about it. "Tenth best" isn't really that high of a bar at some positions.

sook
09-15-2008, 11:13 PM
While the injury angle is valid, you're still retarded. Bynum was absolutely playing like a top 5 center before he went down. You do realize the Lakers were the number one seed at the time right? Did you miss the game where he held Duncan to 5 points? Or where he dominated Kaman, Amare and Bogut?

Bynum at TWENTY YEARS OLD is already a better defender and rebounder than Yao Ming. If you think that doesn't mean anything then you know nothing about basketball.





Funny how you don't mention Oden when he hasn't even set foot on a NBA court yet they put him at 8. Bynum HAS PROVEN he can play a dominant level. Maybe you should watch basketball that doesnt' involve SA sometime.
you are an idiot, stop living on speculation

21_Blessings
09-15-2008, 11:24 PM
Game Four - 2007 Finals.

Maybe you should watch a few games that don't feature the Lakers...

Anyone in the league has the ability to play like the 10th best player at their position if the sample size is small enough. Think about it. "Tenth best" isn't really that high of a bar at some positions.

Nope. There is difference between putting up some big numbers in one game and actually playing and impacting the game like a top 10 player at your position.

Bynum has that ability and has proved it. Oberto doesn't have that ability and is a dime a dozen player.

monosylab1k
09-15-2008, 11:25 PM
Lakers in six! Backdoor fucking sweep!

21_Blessings
09-15-2008, 11:26 PM
you are an idiot, stop living on speculation

What speculation? Everything said in the post you quoted is based on established fact.

samikeyp
09-15-2008, 11:46 PM
No, no you haven't because that never happened nor does he have that ability.

I saw it once...




then the time out ended. :)

diego
09-18-2008, 04:18 PM
You. Are. Fucking. Retarded.

dirk, who i dont even like, has been on the verge of averaging a double double in 82 games multiple times. Bynum has never been close to that.

how many gms do you think choose bynum over dirk for their primary big?

stick to making predictions, mr. guru.

TheMACHINE
09-18-2008, 06:42 PM
dirk, who i dont even like, has been on the verge of averaging a double double in 82 games multiple times. Bynum has never been close to that.

how many gms do you think choose bynum over dirk for their primary big?

stick to making predictions, mr. guru.

just curious on the mpg that both have?

DPG21920
09-18-2008, 07:15 PM
just curious on the mpg that both have?

Not saying that you are implying this by that question, but trying to compare Bynum to a league MVP (like it or not), and someone who is the leader of a team that made it to the finals is just bad business.


But then again, so is comparing Bynum to anyone just yet.

dirk4mvp
09-18-2008, 07:19 PM
How funny is seeing lakerfans meltdown gonna be if Bynum is fail?

Allanon
09-18-2008, 07:46 PM
Not saying that you are implying this by that question, but trying to compare Bynum to a league MVP (like it or not), and someone who is the leader of a team that made it to the finals is just bad business.


But then again, so is comparing Bynum to anyone just yet.

GMs draft or trade on what they think that player will do. Guys like LeBron and Duncan were drafted #1 even before they declared for the draft. If you wait until somebody "does something" to think they'll be good...it's too late cuz somebody else has snatched them up.

Parker is a known commodity, you get a Finals MVP and 18 points with 5 assists per game. Unfortunately, those are only above average stats for a point guard.

Bynum is an unknown commodity but with excellent past performance with an NBA per36 of 25 points and something like 13 rebounds. In this day an age of 5 point, 7 rebound Centers, GM's would take the chance that Bynum will be their franchise player.


How funny is seeing lakerfans meltdown gonna be if Bynum is fail?
Even if Bynum is fail as he was MIA last year, the Lakers were still only a couple of wins away from a championship.

21_Blessings
09-18-2008, 09:25 PM
dirk, who i dont even like, has been on the verge of averaging a double double in 82 games multiple times. Bynum has never been close to that.

You're stupid. Dirk is far from an 'inside player'. And Bynum averaged a DOUBLE DOUBLE last season. You're extra retarded.


how many gms do you think choose bynum over dirk for their primary big?

.

Every GM in the league would take a 20 year old Bynum over a 20 year old Dirk.

confined
09-18-2008, 10:28 PM
Rappin' Shaq is gonna be PISSED when he sees this list!

and :lol at Bynum being better than Dirk

Roxsfan
09-18-2008, 10:59 PM
looking at this list, its clear how pathetic the center position is right now. do any of these guys even crack top 25 overall? if they do, it is just BARELY.

Duncan, KG and even Dirk are way better inside players than all of these guys.

Better down low than Yao is:nope:nope:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao


Order, fixed.

1. Yao Ming, Houston: It's time for Yao to start acting and playing like a former No. 1 pick and lead the Rockets deep into the playoffs. With both Tracy McGrady and Ron Artest alongside him, there should be no reason why Yao can't get the Rockets past any of the Western contenders.

2. Dwight Howard, blah, blah, blah, fucking, blah, blah.

confined
09-19-2008, 12:51 AM
Howard has all the potential in the world, and every opportunity to become one of the greatest centers of all time.

Yao has been in the league longer and has an all around better tea
and another superstar to play with, yet Howard has still made it farther in the playoffs than Yao.

If the Rockets don't get past the first round this year, then you can forget about Yao even being the 2nd best center.
Oden will be ahead of him in a year or two.

dirk4mvp
09-19-2008, 01:51 AM
Even if Bynum is fail as he was MIA last year, the Lakers were still only a couple of wins away from a championship.



what the fuck is this shit?

Allanon
09-19-2008, 09:42 AM
what the fuck is this shit?

The truth? There is no "big meltdown" that you imagine :D

TheMACHINE
09-19-2008, 10:13 AM
just curious on the mpg that both have?


Not saying that you are implying this by that question, but trying to compare Bynum to a league MVP (like it or not), and someone who is the leader of a team that made it to the finals is just bad business.


But then again, so is comparing Bynum to anyone just yet.

you can guess my motive all you want, but im just asking a simple question.

Based on your comment - "dirk, who i dont even like, has been on the verge of averaging a double double in 82 games multiple times. Bynum has never been close to that. "

All im asking is, whats the diff in MPG?

TheNextGen
09-19-2008, 10:16 AM
dirk, who i dont even like, has been on the verge of averaging a double double in 82 games multiple times. Bynum has never been close to that.

Dirk was close. But Bynum actually DID.

I think he avg 13 points, 10 rebounds.

dirk4mvp
09-19-2008, 10:36 AM
The truth? There is no "big meltdown" that you imagine :D

lol but how did almost winning a title come into play?

ambchang
09-19-2008, 10:40 AM
You're stupid. Dirk is far from an 'inside player'. And Bynum averaged a DOUBLE DOUBLE last season. You're extra retarded.

I think the key is 82 games.

He's probably going to that this year though, if he actually bounces back 80+%

[QUOTE=21_Blessings;2777148]Every GM in the league would take a 20 year old Bynum over a 20 year old Dirk.

From what we can see at this point, right now? I would take Dirk over Bynum every day of the week.

But when both were 20 when we don't know how Dirk can blossom into one of the best players in the league? Yeah, I would probably take Bynum.

diego
09-19-2008, 11:03 AM
seems a lot of people here havent finished highschool yet.

IN 82 GAMES.

bynum averaged a double double (13.1 and 10.2) for 35 games.

dirk averaged 23.4 pts and 9.9 in 76 games, 25.1 and 9.9 in 80 games, 26.1 and 9.7 in 78 games. Each one of those seasons is far more impressive both in output and sample size.

as for the MPG argument, dirk played 38-39 mpg during those seasons. bynum played 28.8 for his.

does bynum have room to improve? yes. does that mean he is comparable to a franchise player who has much better statistical seasons, for longer periods of time, and multiple times? and who on top of that has allstar selections, all nba team selections, and a mvp award???

i hate the mavs just as much as i hate the lakers, and dont care for dirk at all. but he is a better player than bynum and is going to give you close to 20 and 10. Bynum hasnt even shown that his body can handle playing 38mpg, let alone produce his glorious numbers of 13 and 10 for an entire season.

off the top of my head, if i could choose one bigman for my team next season, i would choose

duncan
garnett
dirk
brand
amare
yao
dwight howard
bosh
gasol
al jefferson
sheed
camby
chandler

before i pick bynum, and it feels like im forgetting a lot of players. bynum right now is just a nice role player, and camby and chandler play that role way better.

5 years from now my opinion might change, but i dont really care about 5 years from now.

21_Blessings
09-19-2008, 01:33 PM
Why are you turning this into a BYNUM VS DIRK thread?

The fact remains Dirk isn't much of an INSIDE player, especially offensively like you claimed.

And you're comparing a Dirk in his prime to a 20 year old Bynum. Fact remains, Bynum was more productive at 20 than Dirk was at 20.

dirk4mvp
09-19-2008, 01:44 PM
Why are you turning this into a BYNUM VS DIRK thread?

The fact remains Dirk isn't much of an INSIDE player, especially offensively like you claimed.

And you're comparing a Dirk in his prime to a 20 year old Bynum. Fact remains, Bynum was more productive at 20 than Dirk was at 20.


Dirk was more productive with the ladies at 20 than Bynum is.


http://i2.iofferphoto.com/img/item/322/282/51/o_DIRK_NOWITZKI_ROOKIE.JPG

TheMACHINE
09-19-2008, 06:01 PM
seems a lot of people here havent finished highschool yet.

IN 82 GAMES.

bynum averaged a double double (13.1 and 10.2) for 35 games.

dirk averaged 23.4 pts and 9.9 in 76 games, 25.1 and 9.9 in 80 games, 26.1 and 9.7 in 78 games. Each one of those seasons is far more impressive both in output and sample size.

as for the MPG argument, dirk played 38-39 mpg during those seasons. bynum played 28.8 for his.

does bynum have room to improve? yes. does that mean he is comparable to a franchise player who has much better statistical seasons, for longer periods of time, and multiple times? and who on top of that has allstar selections, all nba team selections, and a mvp award???

i hate the mavs just as much as i hate the lakers, and dont care for dirk at all. but he is a better player than bynum and is going to give you close to 20 and 10. Bynum hasnt even shown that his body can handle playing 38mpg, let alone produce his glorious numbers of 13 and 10 for an entire season.

off the top of my head, if i could choose one bigman for my team next season, i would choose

duncan
garnett
dirk
brand
amare
yao
dwight howard
bosh
gasol
al jefferson
sheed
camby
chandler

before i pick bynum, and it feels like im forgetting a lot of players. bynum right now is just a nice role player, and camby and chandler play that role way better.

5 years from now my opinion might change, but i dont really care about 5 years from now.


im sure bynum owned more then half of the players on that list last year.

Allanon
09-19-2008, 06:20 PM
off the top of my head, if i could choose one bigman for my team next season, i would choose

duncan,garnett,dirk,brand,amare,yao,dwight howard,bosh,gasol,al jefferson,sheed,camby,chandler

before i pick bynum, and it feels like im forgetting a lot of players. bynum right now is just a nice role player, and camby and chandler play that role way better.

5 years from now my opinion might change, but i dont really care about 5 years from now.

Why are you including Power Forwards? This is a list of Centers in the NBA, not power forwards.

If you were building a Franchise around a player right now, Duncan, KG, Dirk, Brand, Amare, Yao, Gasol, Camby, Sheed are ALL off the list immediately.

I would take Bynum over DHo even though DHo is currently better, Bynum has a much wider skillset

sheed, camby, chandler you would pick over Bynum? You can have them.

Allanon
09-19-2008, 06:28 PM
seems a lot of people here havent finished highschool yet.

IN 82 GAMES.

bynum averaged a double double (13.1 and 10.2) for 35 games.

dirk averaged 23.4 pts and 9.9 in 76 games, 25.1 and 9.9 in 80 games, 26.1 and 9.7 in 78 games. Each one of those seasons is far more impressive both in output and sample size.

as for the MPG argument, dirk played 38-39 mpg during those seasons. bynum played 28.8 for his.


1. 13.1 and 10.2 rebounds is stellar for a 20 year old
2. You're not counting his improvement through the season
11.4 and 8 in November
13.9 and 9.1 in December

17.3 and 12.2 in January in 29.5 minutes
As the season progressed, Bynum got better and better. The Lakers didn't know how good Bynum was early on but as the season progressed, they started getting the ball to him more and more. Bynum knows what to do with the ball as shown by his insane, video-game like, shooting percentage.

If I was building a team right now, I'd take 20 year old Bynum over 30 year old Dirk, 32 year old Duncan, 32 year old Kevin Garnett, 28 year old Yao, 34 year old Camby and ANY other Center in the NBA.

diego
09-19-2008, 06:38 PM
with that logic, wade > kobe

hes younger and he has room to improve, right?

like i said, i'm talking about now.

and the whole comparison started because i was saying the center position is weak, and that the top PFs are all hands down better than the top Cs.

Allanon
09-19-2008, 06:43 PM
with that logic, wade > kobe

hes younger and he has room to improve, right?
DWade & Kobe are only 4 years apart. He's not significantly younger...both guys are playing in pretty much the same era. It's not like Bynum and Duncan who are 12 years apart.



like i said, i'm talking about now.

and the whole comparison started because i was saying the center position is weak, and that the top PFs are all hands down better than the top Cs.

Alright, let's talk right now. If you were building a team around a player right now, in what order would you take these guys? I've left out all the Centers and only using the power forwards.

Duncan 32 yrs old
Bynum 20
KG 32
Dirk 30
Camby 34
Brand 30
Amare 25
Gasol 29
Sheed 34

TheMACHINE
09-22-2008, 11:57 AM
DWade & Kobe are only 4 years apart. He's not significantly younger...both guys are playing in pretty much the same era. It's not like Bynum and Duncan who are 12 years apart.



Alright, let's talk right now. If you were building a team around a player right now, in what order would you take these guys? I've left out all the Centers and only using the power forwards.

Duncan 32 yrs old
Bynum 20
KG 32
Dirk 30
Camby 34
Brand 30
Amare 25
Gasol 29
Sheed 34


/end of discussion

monosylab1k
09-22-2008, 12:52 PM
Go Lakers!

Spur-Addict
09-22-2008, 03:21 PM
Go Lakers!

Your Sig may be my new favorite. :lmao

Allanon
09-22-2008, 03:50 PM
Go Lakers!

You lose another sig/avatar bet?

I wouldn't count out your Mavs just yet even though they should have done something in the offseason instead of sitting on their azz.

Gino
09-22-2008, 05:55 PM
I thought Eric Dampier was the second best center in the league?