Joe Johnson Vs Brandon Roy

[Red Hawk #21]

I have always thought Joe Johnson and Brandon Roy have similar games, they are both all-stars, both are always poised, clutch shooters, both are very good defenders and both are good leaders. What Im pissed about is that we don't get to play Portland till February 20. But I want to know who you think is better, give me your opinion.
http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z170/joejohnson24/johnson_300_080428.jpg

http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z170/joejohnson24/Brandon_Roy_Hornets_Dunk.jpg

[monosylab1k]

Gimme Joe Johnson any day. I like Roy but really don't get why people blow their chodes over him. He's a solid player but he's never going to be more than a 17-20 ppg guy who is best suited as a second or third option on a good team.

[The Franchise]

We should have this descussion in about three more years.

[monosylab1k]

Portland will be a dynasty only if Oden, Aldridge, and Rudy all develop into premiere players and Brandon Roy is demoted to 4th whistle.

[JamStone]

Joe Johnson is bigger, stronger, more athletic, and has a cleaner jump shooting stroke.

I'll take that guy.

[balli]

Besides being the better player, JJ is a horse, he plays a ton of minutes and is never hurt. When is Brandon Roy not hurt?

[tlongII]

Brandon Roy. I saw him completely PWN Johnson in a game here at the Rose Garden. The Blazers were getting killed for 3 quarters and then Roy just took over. The Hawks could not stop him and he put Johnson on lock down. Probably the most amazing individual performance by a Blazer I saw last year.

[Tully365]

Brandon Roy. I saw him completely PWN Johnson in a game here at the Rose Garden. The Blazers were getting killed for 3 quarters and then Roy just took over. The Hawks could not stop him and he put Johnson on lock down. Probably the most amazing individual performance by a Blazer I saw last year.

:wakeup

I've never seen you post a single objective statement.

[balli]

Brandon Roy. I saw him completely PWN Johnson in a game here at the Rose Garden. The Blazers were getting killed for 3 quarters and then Roy just took over. The Hawks could not stop him and he put Johnson on lock down. Probably the most amazing individual performance by a Blazer I saw last year.

I saw that too and that's all fine and good for the purpose of those 12 minutes, but in the context of the rest of the minutes they've played over their careers, Brandon Roy is not better than Joe Johnson.

[Sissiborgo]

I would say Joe Johnson he scores more and more team leader but that's only my opinion....:toast

[tlongII]

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[Allanon]

Suns obviously didn't think much of Joe Johnson, they liked this beast instead:

http://www.nba.com/media/suns/diaw_hawks_180.jpg
http://www.dirtyscottsdale.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/10/diaw-again-copy.jpg

[tlongII]

The Blazers were 2-0 against the Hawks last year and had a better record for the season. As Roy is the team leader I think it's pretty clear that he's the better player.

[monosylab1k]

The Blazers were 2-0 against the Hawks last year and had a better record for the season. As Roy is the team leader I think it's pretty clear that he's the better player.

So how did Brandon Roy's playoff run work out for him? Joe Johnson's team played the NBA Champions tougher than the Lakers did.

[balli]

The Blazers were 2-0 against the Hawks last year and had a better record for the season. As Roy is the team leader I think it's pretty clear that he's the better player.

Please... Dumbest logic ever.

[tlongII]

Try watching that youtube clip again...

[Brutalis]

JJ. Easy.

[JMarkJohns]

JJ. I rue the day Sarver failed to sign him for six years and 50 million. It was all JJ was asking for in the summer of 2004. Sarver wouldn't budge from his six year, 45 million offer.

If only...

[JamStone]

The Blazers were 2-0 against the Hawks last year and had a better record for the season. As Roy is the team leader I think it's pretty clear that he's the better player.


Those two games were decided by a total of 3 points, one game went into over time. The stats of those two players in those two games:

Roy: 21 ppg, 4 apg, 2 rpg
Johnson: 28 ppg, 6.5 apg, 5.5 rpg

[DPG21920]

The Blazers announcers are the biggest homer, whiny, d-bag, a-holes ever. They cry and whine more than fans who do not know shit about basketball. I get so pissed when I watch league pass and have to listen to those bastards.

[JamStone]

The Blazers announcers are the biggest homer, whiny, d-bag, a-holes ever. They cry and whine more than fans who do not know shit about basketball. I get so pissed when I watch league pass and have to listen to those bastards.

Boston
Chicago

No other team's announcers come close to those two.

[DPG21920]

Boston is bad, real bad, but for some reason I hate the Blazers announcers even more. Probably because when the Blazers play the Spurs they talk so much shit about them. It walks the line of being unprofessional.

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

Joe Johnson, easily.

[tlongII]

Those two games were decided by a total of 3 points, one game went into over time. The stats of those two players in those two games:

Roy: 21 ppg, 4 apg, 2 rpg
Johnson: 28 ppg, 6.5 apg, 5.5 rpg

Don't forget the most important stats!


Roy: 2 wins
Johnson: 2 losses

[monosylab1k]

Don't forget the most important stats!


Roy: 2 wins
Johnson: 2 losses

Don't forget these stats either tschlong!

Johnson: 3 playoff wins
Roy: Did Not Qualify

[tlongII]

Don't forget these stats either tschlong!

Johnson: 3 playoff wins
Roy: Did Not Qualify

Eastern Conference Forum

[monosylab1k]

Eastern Conference team won the title. Atlanta played them tougher than the Western Conference did.

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

Sergio Rodriguez>Joe Johnson

2 wins>2 losses, therefore it's true!

[balli]

tlong, quit being a dumb homer. I love the Jazz a lot, but I'm not going to go out there and call Ronnie Brewer a better shooting guard than Kobe. I understand that Joe Johnson and Roy are closer in terms of talent (although JJ kicks his ass in terms of toughness), but... just try be reasonable.

[manufor3]

JJ no contest

[JamStone]

Don't forget the most important stats!


Roy: 2 wins
Johnson: 2 losses

Are you prepared any player who is the leader of his team and has a winning record in the match-ups last season is better than Brandon Roy? Because if so, we should have a Roy v. Granger or Dunleavy and Roy v. Kevin Martin discussion next.

[tlongII]

Sorry, but Roy is better. He is the epitome of a true leader.

[tlongII]

B-Roy played in 74 games last year.

The Blazers' record in games that he missed was 1 - 7.

[Lp26]

I'm a Brandon Roy fan. That being said, Joe Johnson no contest.

[manufor3]

roy is on a team full of scrubs, how else can he score points?

[Gino]

JJ. I rue the day Sarver failed to sign him for six years and 50 million. It was all JJ was asking for in the summer of 2004. Sarver wouldn't budge from his six year, 45 million offer.

If only...

Yep...that was pretty stupid.

[sook]

johnson is a beast, but...Roy is young and was an all star his 2nd year.

+

B. ROY WAS ROY (2007)

[angelbelow]

JJ.. for now.

[timtonymanu]

Joe Johnson. Roy needs to get through a full season.

[TDMVPDPOY]

joe johnson is fukn overrated as hell, i dunnno why he gets all this hype around him? what playin for hawks and makn it to the olympic team? dude is a pussy who flew out east cause he cant compete in the west...

GINOBOLI owns his ass since his suns days..

[MrChug]

tlong, you're burying yourself. this is an easy one...I 'like' Roy, but I have no problem saying that JJ is by FAR the better player. If Roy tries to evolve, he'll sabotage his team-but if he finds his way toward upping his team play, he'll probably find his team in the hunt.

[urunobili]

Roy> Ginobili on last years All Star was a travesty by this league and coaches... Joe Johnson is the maximum you could get on a role player... i don't see any all star talent there...

[JamStone]

Joe Johnson is the maximum you could get on a role player... i don't see any all star talent there...

You didn't watch the first round of the playoffs between Atlanta and Boston, did you? Joe Johnson went crazy on the best defense in the league in several of those games even when they doubled him and tried to deny him the ball. He arguably played better than Kobe did against Boston. No all star talent in Joe Johnson?

[balli]

Joe Johnson is the maximum you could get on a role player... i don't see any all star talent there...

You obviously didn't watch the 05-06 season he had with Atlanta either. I don't know about you, but playing 40+ minutes a night in all 82 games with averages of 20+ ppg, 6.5 apg and 4.5 rpg seems a little too damn good for a "role player" if you ask me.

Roy> Ginobili on last years All Star was a travesty by this league and coaches...

And that wasn't the travesty. The travesty was picking B-Roy over Deron Williams. (No matter how good Roy's December was)

You didn't watch the first round of the playoffs between Atlanta and Boston, did you? Joe Johnson went crazy on the best defense in the league in several of those games even when they doubled him and tried to deny him the ball. He arguably played better than Kobe did against Boston. No all star talent in Joe Johnson?
What's funny is that the B-Roy performance in tlong's vid wasn't as good as Joe Johnson's performance in game 4 (or was it 6?). And that was against the champs. I didn't see Kobe do that either.

[Red Hawk #21]

Damn this wasn't even close, with all of the talks about "Blazermania" and "Upcoming Dynasty of the Blazers" I thought more people would pick B-Roy. I hope Tlong doesn't take it too hard.

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

B-Roy played in 74 games last year.

The Blazers' record in games that he missed was 1 - 7.

That's because they suck.

[DPG21920]

Why is this even a topic? The only thing that Roy has over JJ is defensive effort.

[Tully365]

By tlong11's reasoning, Travis Outlaw must be better than Josh Smith, too.

Homer, homer, homer.

[tlongII]

It's not my fault the majority of posters on this board are clueless.

[tomtom]

ive been a blazers fan for years but easily joe johnson

[tlongII]

ive been a blazers fan for years but easily joe johnson

Your fan card has just been revoked!

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

You're fan card has just been revoked!

He's not a fan card has just been revoked!

[Red Hawk #21]

You're fan card has just been revoked!

It got revoked because he chose not be a total homer? Damn Tlong it seems you can't handle the truth. :nope

[lefty]

Gimme Joe Johnson any day. I like Roy but really don't get why people blow their chodes over him. He's a solid player but he's never going to be more than a 17-20 ppg guy who is best suited as a second or third option on a good team.

:tu

[bdictjames]

I'd take an all-around player over a one-dimensional scorer any day.

[Dex]

Gotta love that "I'm right and reality is wrong" logic.

[Darthkiller]

As much as i love the blazers next year( will root for them against anyteam not named spur or suns), JJ > roy. Much better shooter and much more experienced.

[tomtom]

Exactly, Tlong is being quite childish here. I still love the blazers, they have a lot of potential this year. They've done a good job starting over and getting rid of scrubs like Randolph. It hasn't exactly been easy watching them the past several years.

[Warlord23]

The Celtics, the best defensive team last year, double-teamed Joe Johnson more than they doubled Kobe. In fact they blatantly doubled JJ away from the freaking ball.

JJ is the prototypical swingman, terrific on offense and pretty good on defense, clutch, handles the ball well and has the ability to log major minutes without injury. No contest - JJ is much better than Roy

[tlongII]

:lmao There's no effing way that JJ is better than B-Roy! I'll just let this season play out and you will come to realize this fact!

[manufor3]

:lmao There's no effing way that JJ is better than B-Roy! I'll just let this season play out and you will come to realize this fact!

okay you do that :sleep

[IronMexican]

I would take Rudy Gay over both of these guys.

[monosylab1k]

I would take Rudy Gay over both of these guys.

:lmao

[dirk4mvp]

I would take Rudy Gay over both of these guys.


JJ>Rudy>>>>>>>>Roy

[robbie380]

http://www.basketball-reference.com/fc/tiny.cgi?id=M9hhs

jj v roy

http://www.basketball-reference.com/fc/tiny.cgi?id=tr80c

jj v rudy

http://www.basketball-reference.com/fc/tiny.cgi?id=t5trd

roy v rudy


if someone knows how to actually post those stats please do so i can learn how to do it.

[IronMexican]

They don't even stick each other. Gay is a SF.

[robbie380]

JJ>Rudy>>>>>>>>Roy

rudy is on a much crappier team thus inflating his numbers. roy creates a ton for his teammates but gay simply just doesn't. i think rudy is a good player but overrated because of inflated points due to the crappy team around him.

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[Red Hawk #21]

rudy is on a much crappier team thus inflating his numbers. roy creates a ton for his teammates but roy simply just doesn't. i think rudy is a good player but overrated because of inflated points due to the crappy team around him.

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[robbie380]

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fixed!!

[IronMexican]

Gay is a SF, while Roy is a combo guard. What else would you expect?

[dirk4mvp]

rudy is on a much crappier team thus inflating his numbers. roy creates a ton for his teammates but gay simply just doesn't. i think rudy is a good player but overrated because of inflated points due to the crappy team around him.

edited


At the same time, he plays on a team full of guards who want to jack up shots too. Their stats are very similar. Gay is also a better athlete, and he's younger.

[nkdlunch]

Johnson is a SG. Roy too but he also can play PG.

Johnson is more talented and can take over games. Roy, not yet at least. I'd take Johnson easily.