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boutons_
09-15-2008, 04:01 PM
McCain Ad Lies About Immigration Reform



By Henry Fernandez, New America Media
Posted on September 15, 2008, Printed on September 15, 2008
http://www.alternet.org/story/98893/

Editor's Note: Senator John McCain is now running a Spanish language ad which apparently lies about Senator Barack Obama's support for comprehensive immigration reform, reports NAM Contributor Henry Fernandez.


WASHINGTON -- Senator John McCain is now running a Spanish language ad (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QyKGHvRL2_U) which apparently lies about Senator Barack Obama's support for comprehensive immigration reform. McCain's ad argues that Obama tried to kill reform. Why might we believe this is a lie? Because just two years ago, McCain thanked Obama for his support of comprehensive immigration reform.

Congressional Record, May 25, 2006 (http://media.newamericamedia.org/files/Obama_Immigration_Credit.pdf), Senator McCain: "I also thank Senators Brownback and Lieberman, Graham and Salazar, Martinez, Obama, and DeWine for their shared commitment to this issue, in working to ensure this [comprehensive immigration] bill moves successfully intact through the legislative process."


Close McCain ally Senator Mel Martinez, R-Fla., also praised Obama in a letter dated June 28, 2007:

"Thank you for your support of the Immigration Reform Bill. While it failed, your backing of this important legislation meant a lot to me personally. I know that standing firm in the face of extreme pressure has not been easy, and again, I thank you."Yet just two years later, Senator McCain appears to have forgotten his praise for Senator Obama's steadfast support of immigration reform.
September 12 2008, McCain Spanish language ad (translated by McCain-Palin 2008) (http://www.standardnewswire.com/news/455133336.html):


[Announcer:] Obama and his Congressional allies say they are on the side of immigrants. But are they? The press reports that their efforts were 'poison pills' that made immigration reform fail.
The result: No guest worker program. No path to citizenship. No secure borders. No reform.


Is that being on our side? Obama and his Congressional allies ready to block immigration reform, but not ready to lead.
JOHN MCCAIN: I'm John McCain and I approve this message.
So why the memory lapse? And why only in Spanish language ads?

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Like dubya and dickhead breaking so many laws for so many years, one is just overwhelmed by the repeated, numerous lies spewing of unprincipled, unclassy, unheroic scumbag McLiar.

fyatuk
09-15-2008, 04:17 PM
Not a lie, McCain's opinion.

McCain explained this back in July:


I cast a lot of hard votes, as did the other Republicans and Democrats who joined our bipartisan effort. So did Senator Kennedy. I took my lumps for it without complaint. My campaign was written off as a lost cause. I did so not just because I believed it was the right thing to do for Hispanic Americans. It was the right thing to do for all Americans. Senator Obama declined to cast some of those tough votes. He voted for and even sponsored amendments that were intended to kill the legislation, amendments that Senator Kennedy and I voted against. I never ask for any special privileges from anyone just for having done the right thing. Doing my duty to my country is its own reward. But I do ask for your trust that when I say, I remain committed to fair, practical and comprehensive immigration reform, I mean it. I think I have earned that trust.

http://marcambinder.theatlantic.com/archives/2008/07/on_immigration_poison_pills_or.php

That's where I got the McCain quote and also discusses the admentments that McCain was upset about.

PS, the writer using a McCain quote from 2006 regarding a bill that was killed on vote in mid 2007 is just plain stupid.

Wild Cobra
09-16-2008, 11:42 AM
Fyatuk, I agree with what you say.

Boutons, the praise you link is the same praise he gave to everyone of a small committee covering the subject.

I took the a few hours going over S2611 and it's amendments. Obama's amendment would have removed the 200,000 cap of illegal aliens already residing in the USA before a certain date. All illegal aliens already in the USA would have been eligible for the H2-C Visa Program. Omama also wanted to allow aliens not already in the USA to qualify for H2-C status which would have invited a flood of newcomers. He voted to not to build any fences. Obama also voted to grant money to the aliens. All these votes and more of the ridiculous type were the opposite of McCains vote, and like you say, would have killed the Comprehensive Immigration Reform.

Now here is a write-up on their attempt to pass legislation again on the subject:

S. 1348 – Comprehensive Immigration Reform Act (http://rpc.senate.gov/public/_files/L15S1348ComprehensiveImmigrationReformAct051507LB. pdf), first part:


• On May 14, the Senate Majority Leader filed a cloture petition on the motion to proceed to S. 1348. As such, a cloture vote on the motion to proceed should occur on Wednesday, May 16.

• S. 1348 is essentially the same bill as S. 2611 of the 109th Congress, which the Senate passed on May 25, 2006, by a vote of 62-36.

• S. 1348 was placed on the Senate Calendar on May 10 under the procedures of the Senate’s Rule 14. On May 11, 2007, the Majority Leader acknowledged that Senators were negotiating a new proposal in good faith, but added that if they were unable to reach a new bipartisan
agreement by this week, he wanted to move to S. 1348.

• At the time this Legislative Notice was issued, the bipartisan negotiations were still ongoing.


I haven't gone over the amendments of this one yet, but I'm pretty sure I know what I'll find. More nonsense from the democrats, and a bill anyway I'm against if it has any form of amnesty.

JoeChalupa
09-16-2008, 12:18 PM
McCain is on a negative roll.