More Josh Howard Crap

[Allanon]

I just wish it was a swim meet and Josh said "I don't do no swimmin cuz I'm black", nobody would give a shit about any of this.

Hahah, that's a joke but that shit is also kinda true...I didn't learn to swim until my late 20's. I almost drowned twice in my life.

[Xylus]

If you don't think Obama represents the black people of America, I don't know what else to say.

How does Obama represent all black Americans? That's the craziest thing I've ever heard.

[Allanon]

How does Obama represent all black Americans? That's the craziest thing I've ever heard.

If Obama wins the presidency, what will be the first thing written about him in the history books? No matter what Obama does in office, there will be 1 sure fire line about him in the history books.

The day Obama wins the presidency, what line will EVERY newspaper have in common.

What would be that line?

[Spur-Addict]

If you don't think Obama represents the black people of America, I don't know what else to say.


There's nothing wrong with that. He took advantage of the benefits of the system...so why is he now dissing that same system? It worked rather great for him.


Yes, he wouldn't fit in, he's not African except from the gene pool. He's black but he's also American. The Star Spangled banner represents America, it's not the white people anthem, it's the American anthem.

If he wants to diss his country's anthem, sure go ahead but don't say it's because he's black because that has nothing to do with it. Saying you don't sing the anthem makes you sound un-patriotic which is whatever, but saying it's because you're black is just ignorant.

Rev. Wright doesn't and his views didn't represent Obama, according to Obama, same thing.

What's ignorant is him not giving an explanation for why he said, "Black", in regards to his explanation.

[Spur-Addict]

If Obama wins the presidency, what will be the first thing written about him in the history books? No matter what Obama does in office, there will be 1 sure fire line about him in the history books.

The day Obama wins the presidency, what line will EVERY newspaper have in common.

What would be that line?

If you let the media determine what's real and what isn't, what's important and what isn't, then you have already lost.

[Allanon]

Rev. Wright doesn't and his views didn't represent Obama, according to Obama, same thing.

What's ignorant is him not giving an explanation for why he said, "Black", in regards to his explanation.

Rev Wright is in the minority, for the majority, yes Obama represents the US black race.


If Obama wins the presidency, what will be the first thing written about him in the history books? No matter what Obama does in office, there will be 1 sure fire line about him in the history books.

The day Obama wins the presidency, what line will EVERY newspaper have in common.

What would be that line?

[Allanon]

If you let the media determine what's real and what isn't, what's important and what isn't, then you have already lost.

That's a cop-out an you know it. This is getting into semantics.

Answer the question.

[Spur-Addict]

Rev Wright is in the minority, for the majority, yes Obama represents the US black race.

If he represents the majority and there is a minority, how can he represent all? This makes zero sense.

[Spur-Addict]

If Obama wins the presidency, what will be the first thing written about him in the history books? No matter what Obama does in office, there will be 1 sure fire line about him in the history books.

The day Obama wins the presidency, what line will EVERY newspaper have in common.

What would be that line?

Alright, i'll answer it now. I don't know. Also, you don't either. You can assume, but assumptions prove nothing.

[Allanon]

If he represents the majority and there is a minority, how can he represent all? This makes zero sense.

I never said every single black person. I said the black people...and when you speak of a people, you speak of the majority, not the minority.

[Allanon]

Alright, i'll answer it now. I don't know. Also, you don't either. You can assume, but assumptions prove nothing.

You don't know or you don't wish to answer?

You gotta be kidding me if you don't know that answer. Even a kid in grammar school can give you this answer if Obama becomes president.

You and I both know what Obama will be known for above all else if he becomes president unless he does something truly great like solve poverty or hunger.

I can see by this "I don't know" answer you will not be reasonable as some of the posters are, I don't see a point in arguing with you anymore.

[Spur-Addict]

I never said every single black person. I said the black people...and when you speak of a people, you speak of the majority, not the minority.

The statement, "The Black People", does not separate, the black people, whatsoever. If you don't separate them, they are together, therefore, it's all.

[Spur-Addict]

You don't know or you don't wish to answer?

You gotta be kidding me if you don't know that answer. Even a kid in grammar school can give you this answer if Obama becomes president.

You and I both know what Obama will be known for above all else if he becomes president unless he does something truly great like solve poverty or hunger.

I can see by this "I don't know" answer you will not be reasonable as some of the posters are, I don't see a point in arguing with you anymore.

What are you trying to imply? That way I can address it properly. I don't like to assume that much, especially in matters of seriousness such as these.

[Allanon]

What are you trying to imply? That way I can address it properly. I don't like to assume that much, especially in matters of seriousness such as these.

Even a kid knows what Obama will be if he wins the elections, I know you're not that stupid.

Somebody had PM'ed me saying that it was pointless debating with you because you'll never admit it when you are wrong. Now I see they were right.

I'm done.

[Spur-Addict]

Even a kid knows what Obama will be if he wins the elections, I know you're not that stupid.

Somebody had PM'ed me saying that it was pointless debating with you because you'll never admit it when you are wrong. Now I see they were right.

I'm done.

Whatever floats your boat, good day sir.

[dirk4mvp]

where the hell did Gino go with his wonderful insight?

[dickface]

The day Obama wins the presidency, what line will EVERY newspaper have in common.

Dead Man Walking?

no, that's just in the South. And Boston (go Gino!)

[dickface]

I thought Obama represented the Democrats?

[Allanon]

Dead Man Walking?


Yes, that's probably true, unfortunately.


I thought Obama represented the Democrats?

Why did you say he'd be "Dead Man Walking"? Cuz he's a Democrat? :D

[dickface]

Why did you say he'd be "Dead Man Walking"?

Cuz Josh Howard told us that Obama doesn't celebrate the National Anthem n shit.

[duncan228]

I didn't see this posted.

Ron Artest on the Josh Howard Fiasco (http://slamonline.com/online/2008/09/ron-artest-on-the-josh-howard-fiasco/)
by Marcel Mutoni

What? You were expecting someone else?

Naturally, the first athlete to publicly acknowledge L’affaire Josh was Ron Artest, a man who has never been afraid to tackle race relations head on.

The Sacramento Bee emailed Artest about the controversy, and below is his measured response.

“I think josh howards comment is a reflection on education. I think the schools need to teach deeper in the history classes and make the students aware of racism but also teach them that all people are not bad.

“I can relate to not feeling wanted by my own country at times but as I dug deeper I realized that America is divided and we need leaders to bring America closer together. An example where I felt unwanted by my country was when I didn’t get a chance to tryout for my national team. I believed it was because my history. I hope he overcomes this. Family 1st”

I’m not sure what Ron means with the “Family 1st” thing, but his response is interesting nonetheless. Always warms my heart when Mr. Artest proves to be the voice of reason in what is quickly turning into a predictably ugly debate.

[Allanon]

Cuz Josh Howard told us that Obama doesn't celebrate the National Anthem n shit.

Josh Howard didn't say that (as far as I know)..nobody can figure out what he said about Obama. That is why you said Obama would be "Dead Man Walking"?


I’m not sure what Ron means with the “Family 1st” thing, but his response is interesting nonetheless. Always warms my heart when Mr. Artest proves to be the voice of reason in what is quickly turning into a predictably ugly debate.

Thanks for the article Duncan228, I have not seen it.

He would have been great on the Olympic team, I think Ron knows how to behave when surrounded by people he respects.

I like Artest and even though he's been boneheaded at times, he doesn't blame it on being black, he blames it on Ron Artest being Ron Artest.

[duncan228]

NBA to go light on Josh Howard (http://mavsblog.dallasnews.com/archives/2008/09/nba-to-go-light-on-josh-howard.html)

Apparently, Josh Howard's latest brush with controversy won't cost him cash. More importantly, it won't cost him any games.

An official from the NBA said the league is not likely to take any action against Howard for showing disrespect to The Star Spangled Banner.

The spokesman cited previous incidents involving Charlie Ward and Allen Iverson, who both made controversial statements and received no repercussions.

When you think about it, that's probably the prudent move by the league. When you start legislating against freedom of speech, you're treading on ground that is almost certain to bring up a legal discussion.

Besides, the league could have plenty of other reasons to dip into Howard's bank account with his summer street racing and last season's admission of marijuana use.

[duncan228]

Mark Cuban tries spin control for Josh Howard (again) (http://mavsblog.dallasnews.com/archives/2008/09/mark-cuban-tries-spin-control-for-josh-h.html)

Gotta give Mark Cuban credit for publicly having Josh Howard's back, even if Cuban's take on J-Ho's latest bonehead incident makes absolutely no sense.

Owner Mark Cuban said the Mavericks dealt with Howard's flag football episode after it happened in July.

"That said, we will be going through some advanced communication-skill sessions together this training camp," Cuban said Tuesday. "I have explained to him that cellphone cameras are not your friend and that what you think you said on camera is never what people will hear when it shows up on YouTube or TV.

"There is only one universal response that works: 'Both teams played hard.'"

What exactly did Howard think he was saying when he looked into the camera and came up with this doozy? "'The Star-Spangled Banner' is going on. I don't celebrate this [expletive]. I'm black."

So the solution is apparently advising Howard to give nothing but boring, bland quotes, which is what he has been delivering in the Mavs' locker room on a regular basis anyway.

The Mavs' PR folks will have their hands full trying to fix J-Ho's image, but they can't help him if he doesn't grow up fast.

[duncan228]

Thanks for the article Duncan228, I have not seen it.

I was hesitant to interrupt with info on the original topic. :lol

[dickface]

Josh Howard didn't say that

yeah he did, he speaks for all black people.

[koriwhat]

fuck howard and the mavs!

[Allanon]

yeah he did, he speaks for all black people.

All anybody could hear was "mumble, mumble, Obama, mumble, mumble"

He could have said Obama wears panties or something.




I was hesitant to interrupt with info on the original topic

Ooops :D

[RonMexico]

No surprises here...

[Obstructed_View]

I was hesitant to interrupt with info on the original topic. :lol

Yeah, I was trying to remember what the thread was about. :lol

[ehz33satx]

Go check out Mavericks forums and you will see that the Mavs are losing alot of fans because of Howard's latest transgression. Its all downhill for them now.

[Obstructed_View]

Go check out Mavericks forums and you will see that the Mavs are losing alot of fans because of Howard's latest transgression. Its all downhill for them now.

Whew. An excuse for many of those folks to abandon the bandwagon arrived just in time with the potential for a challenging season. The actual Mavs fans will mark their return should they have a strong start or make a playoff run.

[Findog]

Go check out Mavericks forums and you will see that the Mavs are losing alot of fans because of Howard's latest transgression. Its all downhill for them now.

The Mavs are losing their retarded, mouth-breathing, racist fans. That's fine by me.

[RonMexico]

The Mavs are losing their retarded, mouth-breathing, racist fans. That's fine by me.

Well, it's pretty obvious that you hate America, commie.

[MaNuMaNiAc]

Any respect I might have had for u is now gone.

Youre a fucking douche-bag and not worth the sweat of one of our soldiers balls. You obviously have father issues since no one with a decent father would ever teach their son that it is anyway okay to sit during the national anthem.

I guess youre "too cool" to show respect, but you better pray youre not "sitting" next to me some day.

pfff internet tough guy routine at its worst

I'm willing to bet you don't have the balls to do anything should that situation ever come up.

so he doesn't stand up during the national anthem, so the fuck what?? Its just a fucking song, just like the flag is just a fucking flag. Does it mean that he hates America? only to jackasses like you perhaps.

People who make a big deal out of stuff like this are fucking drama queens with nothing better to occupy their time.

[BUMP]

pfff internet tough guy routine at its worst

I'm willing to bet you don't have the balls to do anything should that situation ever come up.

so he doesn't stand up during the national anthem, so the fuck what?? Its just a fucking song, just like the flag is just a fucking flag. Does it mean that he hates America? only to jackasses like you perhaps.

People who make a big deal out of stuff like this are fucking drama queens with nothing better to occupy their time.
he claims he is a veteran so it might affect him differently.

for my perspective, i just finished coast guard training and currently working on my degree, it doesnt bother me one bit that FinDog chooses to remain seated during the national anthem. like he said before, its not like he's sitting down while burning the american flag, and shooting the bird at people. if he thinks its pointless, then that's his opinion, as long as he's not interrupting others. i personally think the national anthem before sporting events might not be needed. who really cares anyway, this country is about freedom to do what you want, if i see somebody sitting down during the anthem, it really wont bother me at all. i cant see how it can possibly affect others. its not a big deal

[Spurtacus]

Edited because some losers can't take a damn joke these days. Out of thousands of posters, two can't detect sarcasm. Grow some balls!

[dirk4mvp]

Hey Josh, what's next buddy? Child molestation charges?


Idiot.



what the fuck?


this and what this thread is about probably can't be farther from each other, you dumb piece of shit.

[RonMexico]

Yeah, he's not DeShawn Stevenson or Reuben Patterson. I could see him pulling a David Wesley and killing Devean George in a street race or something...

[Spurtacus]

what the fuck?


this and what this thread is about probably can't be farther from each other, you dumb piece of shit.

It was a joke you piece of shit. This guy is an idiot if you didn't already realize. Your username says all about you.

[dirk4mvp]

It was a joke you piece of shit. This guy is an idiot if you didn't already realize. Your username says all about you.


jokes are not your forte.


my username says what? he has a mvp?

[Spurtacus]

jokes are not your forte.


my username says what? he has a mvp?


And detecting sarcasm is not your forte.

[dirk4mvp]

you're right. jokes about child molestation go right over my head.

[Spurtacus]

you're right. jokes about child molestation go right over my head.

Get over yourself buddy.

Are you really a Grizzlies fan? If so, so sad!

[dirk4mvp]

It's not evident or anything.

This is the year the Grizzlies make some noise.

[Kobe62Mavs61]

my username says what? he has a mvp?

It says you're a fag.

Fuck JHo and the Mavs.

[BUMP]

It was a joke you piece of shit. This guy is an idiot if you didn't already realize. Your username says all about you.

i dont think anybody understood it or thought it was funny except for you.

kill yourself

[Spurtacus]

i understand I'm an idiot. I'm a red raider fan afterall.



Fixed for you.

[Spurtacus]

Edited because some losers can't take a damn joke these days. Out of thousands of posters, two can't detect sarcasm. Grow some balls!

For the two losers who can't detect a joke, I edited my post. You obviously missed the point of my post. Josh Howard is so much of an idiot that he would do something else completely wrong that would get him thrown in jail for a long time in life. He's got the Dummies Guide to being an Idiot & Embarassment in his hands right now.

[duncan228]

Cuban made himself look bad in Howard mess (http://msn.foxsports.com/nba/story/8594344/Cuban-made-himself-look-bad-in-Howard-mess?CMP=OTC-K9B140813162&ATT=73)
by Mike Kahn

Shocked and appalled ... that was the general reaction this week when the video showed up of Dallas Mavericks forward Josh Howard mocking the national anthem and using his race as a reason for doing so prior to a charity flag football game hosted by Allen Iverson back in July.

There were plenty of reasons for people to be upset, and it's been an unfortunate run of bad judgment shown by Howard over the past five months or so that has threatened to have a long-term effect on what had been a very promising, All-Star career.

Just Joshing? Josh Howard is taking some heat after his controversial remarks about the Star Spangled Banner. Not sure what all the fuss is about? Watch Howard's rant HERE. Howard's indiscretions are one thing.

Mavericks owner Mark Cuban's are quite another.

That Cuban would rush to Howard's defense was no surprise. He is fierce in his support of his players — you would think he changed the name to Mavericks after he bought the team.

Cuban has often gone over the top in his ferocity when he feels an injustice has been done or if he is in disagreement over any perception or decision on a topic he deems important. It's a big reason why he is beloved and despised by so many. He is very bright and is one of those to have gotten in early on the Internet, made huge money and had the wisdom to turn it into much, much more.

But in the process of becoming this outspoken maverick, he has turned into a bully. In some ways, he has taken on some of the same characteristics as one of his basketball heroes, the former coach of his alma mater at Indiana, Bob Knight.

Nonetheless, Cuban's "Maverick Blog" is always interesting and often insightful on topics that range from basketball to Web trends to politics to search engines.

So when I checked in on Friday, "shocked and appalled" was I upon seeing what he had posted — too many e-mails pock-marked with racist commentary hurled at Howard, the NBA in general and criticism of Cuban for supporting such a player and league.

He led it with "Thanks for the advice on Josh," and went right into allowing these feeble-minded folks to voice their ugly opinions under the sarcastic guise "let them voice their embarrassing opinions and their e-mail addresses." It's easy to understand where he was coming from, because of those dangerous minds that categorize people with a hate that can curdle the skin.

But in the process, his arrogance toward the under-class lowered his own standards and mentality to their level. Later on in the day, he removed them from the "Maverick Blog," contending it made him sick to his stomach all day.

His contention was that he made his point and he hoped that something good came out of those e-mails being posted.

Still, I was shocked and appalled.

Nothing good can ever come out of giving a forum to that kind of commentary. Cuban did it just so they would embarrass themselves and maybe get a taste of their own medicine since their e-mail addresses were there for all to see.

What he seemed to ignore, however, is that it gave legs to that kind of ignorant, ugly and destructive thinking. In his own arrogance toward the fools, he was giving them a forum to incite others to climb aboard. He's too smart not to realize how many racist, dangerous minds are out there ... and that kind of situation only helps give legs to more people like them.

Cuban did it out of spite and his own imperious nature. There is no learning out of promoting ignorance, no matter how sarcastic and obvious the forum may be. It was born out of his own arrogance and sense of superiority that has come with his wealth and power and has created an even more embarrassing situation for the Mavericks.

All that does it make matters worse.

This has nothing to do with political correctness. There is a fine line between people that show no fear for the consequences of their words and actions that stay above the fray, or those that actually get a kick out of stimulating the fray because they can. And that's where Cuban is in this instance.

His honest appraisal of things has so often been refreshing and informative. Having met him almost 13 years ago when he was beginning Broadcast.com, it's been an amazing and impressive climb to where he is today.

But if he has reached the state where he actually believes he's so bright that he can embarrass people out of their ignorance, then his own forum of ignorance becomes a dangerous place in and of itself.

And that's what he managed to accomplish Friday. Indeed, taking down those posts was "the right thing to do."

But if he actually believes that makes him look smarter, then he unequivocally missed the point himself.

[spurs_fan_in_exile]

I don't think Cuban made himself look bad as much as he did the Mavericks fanbase. Obviously not all of the fans are racist shitheads, but this is one situation where just letting the situation die a quiet death would have been infinitely wiser. His reaction just gave the story some legs and extra coverage while advertising to the world that at least some portion of their fans are bigots. That's true of probably any fan base, but it's one thing to assume it and another to broadcast proof of the fact to the world.

[BUMP]

Edited because some losers can't take a damn joke these days. Out of thousands of posters, two can't detect sarcasm. Grow some balls!

Tim Duncan is a penishead.

[Shank]

What up, gays?

Did I miss something?

[Reggie Miller]

There are a lot of religious groups that do not observe flag etiquette at all, including standing for the National Anthem. The idea is that to do so is a form of idolatry. (Placing a symbol before God.)

These include:

The Religious Society of Friends (Quakers)
Mennonites (particularly the Amish)
Huttites

Apparently, all Quakers and Mennonites are "fucking douche-bags and not worth the sweat of one of our soldiers balls." This despite the fact that many have been incarcerated and/or tortured for their beliefs. By the way, we're not talking the 100 Years War, here. It has happened in the U.S. as recently as the late 20th century.

"One of the best-known stories of WWI COs is of five Hutterites - four brothers named Hofer and Jacob Wipf. They had been sent to Alcatraz prison after their courts-martial, where they again refused to don the military uniform. The authorities put them in solitary confinement cells in the dungeon, which were dank, cold, dark, dirty and infested. The men were locked up wearing nothing but light underwear, and were given no blankets or beds. They had only the cement floor for a bed. They were given nothing to eat for the first four and a half days, and were given only half a glass of water every 24 hours. The last one and a half days they were forced to stand with their hands tied together crosswise above their heads so high that they could barely touch the floor with their feet. When they were finally released from solitary confinement, they were covered with a rash, badly bitten by insects, and their arms were so swollen they could not put their jackets on. They also had bruises from being beaten with clubs. Soon after they were again sent to their cells day and night, though not with their hands tied up. After four months, they were transferred to Fort Leavenworth. Upon their arrival, they were made to take off their clothes in order to put on prison uniforms, except that it took two hours for the uniforms to arrive, and the men had to wait outside in the freezing cold. Joseph and Michael Hofer became so ill that they had to be taken to the hospital, where they both later died. Jacob Wipf and David Hofer were put into solitary confinement cells because again they refused to do work assigned by the military. Their hands were stretched out through the iron bars of their cells and the wrists chained together. They were made to stand that way for nine hours a day, getting only bread and water. This lasted for two weeks."

http://www.mcusa-archives.org/mhb/Yoder-Conscience.html

Similar incidents have been documented well into the Vietnam Era, not to mention the case of Muhammad Ali.

This isn't exactly the same issue as standing for the National Anthem, but it is to the Quakers and Mennonites. I'm so proud of my country at times like this.

[monosylab1k]

What up, gays?

Did I miss something?

Nothing out of the ordinary. Josh Howard melts down, Cuban acts before thinking and then thinks with a child-like mentality, and Donnie Nelson spends his days catching up on The Wire in lieu of doing any real work. Typical offseason day in Mavs Land.

[Shank]

Nothing out of the ordinary. Josh Howard melts down, Cuban acts before thinking and then thinks with a child-like mentality, and Donnie Nelson spends his days catching up on The Wire in lieu of doing any real work. Typical offseason day in Mavs Land.

HOLY SHIT! TERRY STOTTS IS IN TOWN!!!!

[Spuradicator]

Josh Howard is a big time looser....

that, and I have to add that Jason Terry is quite the little bitch.

[dirk4mvp]

I'm sure he's emotionally hurt that some no name spurstalk poster calls him a bitch :lol

[MrChug]

Most Mavs fans are losing their ass in here...might as well bet on "monoslavic" or whatever his name is to make sense every once in a while.

[Gino]

Cuban made himself look bad in Howard mess (http://msn.foxsports.com/nba/story/8594344/Cuban-made-himself-look-bad-in-Howard-mess?CMP=OTC-K9B140813162&ATT=73)
by Mike Kahn

Shocked and appalled ... that was the general reaction this week when the video showed up of Dallas Mavericks forward Josh Howard mocking the national anthem and using his race as a reason for doing so prior to a charity flag football game hosted by Allen Iverson back in July.

There were plenty of reasons for people to be upset, and it's been an unfortunate run of bad judgment shown by Howard over the past five months or so that has threatened to have a long-term effect on what had been a very promising, All-Star career.

Just Joshing? Josh Howard is taking some heat after his controversial remarks about the Star Spangled Banner. Not sure what all the fuss is about? Watch Howard's rant HERE. Howard's indiscretions are one thing.

Mavericks owner Mark Cuban's are quite another.

That Cuban would rush to Howard's defense was no surprise. He is fierce in his support of his players — you would think he changed the name to Mavericks after he bought the team.

Cuban has often gone over the top in his ferocity when he feels an injustice has been done or if he is in disagreement over any perception or decision on a topic he deems important. It's a big reason why he is beloved and despised by so many. He is very bright and is one of those to have gotten in early on the Internet, made huge money and had the wisdom to turn it into much, much more.

But in the process of becoming this outspoken maverick, he has turned into a bully. In some ways, he has taken on some of the same characteristics as one of his basketball heroes, the former coach of his alma mater at Indiana, Bob Knight.

Nonetheless, Cuban's "Maverick Blog" is always interesting and often insightful on topics that range from basketball to Web trends to politics to search engines.

So when I checked in on Friday, "shocked and appalled" was I upon seeing what he had posted — too many e-mails pock-marked with racist commentary hurled at Howard, the NBA in general and criticism of Cuban for supporting such a player and league.

He led it with "Thanks for the advice on Josh," and went right into allowing these feeble-minded folks to voice their ugly opinions under the sarcastic guise "let them voice their embarrassing opinions and their e-mail addresses." It's easy to understand where he was coming from, because of those dangerous minds that categorize people with a hate that can curdle the skin.

But in the process, his arrogance toward the under-class lowered his own standards and mentality to their level. Later on in the day, he removed them from the "Maverick Blog," contending it made him sick to his stomach all day.

His contention was that he made his point and he hoped that something good came out of those e-mails being posted.

Still, I was shocked and appalled.

Nothing good can ever come out of giving a forum to that kind of commentary. Cuban did it just so they would embarrass themselves and maybe get a taste of their own medicine since their e-mail addresses were there for all to see.

What he seemed to ignore, however, is that it gave legs to that kind of ignorant, ugly and destructive thinking. In his own arrogance toward the fools, he was giving them a forum to incite others to climb aboard. He's too smart not to realize how many racist, dangerous minds are out there ... and that kind of situation only helps give legs to more people like them.

Cuban did it out of spite and his own imperious nature. There is no learning out of promoting ignorance, no matter how sarcastic and obvious the forum may be. It was born out of his own arrogance and sense of superiority that has come with his wealth and power and has created an even more embarrassing situation for the Mavericks.

All that does it make matters worse.

This has nothing to do with political correctness. There is a fine line between people that show no fear for the consequences of their words and actions that stay above the fray, or those that actually get a kick out of stimulating the fray because they can. And that's where Cuban is in this instance.

His honest appraisal of things has so often been refreshing and informative. Having met him almost 13 years ago when he was beginning Broadcast.com, it's been an amazing and impressive climb to where he is today.

But if he has reached the state where he actually believes he's so bright that he can embarrass people out of their ignorance, then his own forum of ignorance becomes a dangerous place in and of itself.

And that's what he managed to accomplish Friday. Indeed, taking down those posts was "the right thing to do."

But if he actually believes that makes him look smarter, then he unequivocally missed the point himself.


Nice article. Everyone in that organization from the owner to the fans is a disgrace.

[Findog]

I like smegma

[Shank]

Nice article. Everyone in that organization from the owner to the fans is a disgrace.


Yeah, that makes sense. Let's lump the fans in with the organization. Nuns, soldiers, policemen and firefighters are all disgraces because of a team for which they support.

You, sir, are a fucking genius.

[Findog]

Yeah, that makes sense. Let's lump the fans in with the organization. Nuns, soldiers, policemen and firefighters are all disgraces because of a team for which they support.

You, sir, are a fucking genius.

He'll kick your fucking ass commie for spouting that anti-American claptrap!

America! Fuck Yeah!

[Gino]

Yeah, that makes sense. Let's lump the fans in with the organization. Nuns, soldiers, policemen and firefighters are all disgraces because of a team for which they support.

You, sir, are a fucking genius.

Actually, what you said is kind of true.

We saw how the Portland fans responded to the negative antics of their players. The organization was forced to clean house just to attempt to re-connect with the fans and they were successful.

Cuban, on the other hand, does his Napoleon-esque rant of how his guys are being unfairly treated, etc and then tries to PUNISH the fans by exposing the emails and IPs of everyone who was angry about Howard. Keep in mind this is the umpteenth time Howard has embarrassed the organization and its fans.

Anyone who blindly roots for that organization needs to wake up and realize that the Mavericks are the armpit of the NBA.

Others on this board have taken notice and changed which team they support (Findog, Monos etc).

Maybe you should do the same.

[monosylab1k]

Ethnic cleansing is a good thing.

[Findog]

Others on this board have taken notice and changed which team they support (Findog, Monos etc).

Maybe you should do the same.

:lmao


Making fun of tlongII = abandoning your team

[koriwhat]

Cuban, on the other hand, does his Napoleon-esque rant of how his guys are being unfairly treated, etc and then tries to PUNISH the fans by exposing the emails and IPs of everyone who was angry about Howard. Keep in mind this is the umpteenth time Howard has embarrassed the organization and its fans.

i don't know if you're just a complete dumbass or just somewhat of a dumbass but actually defending most of those racist bastards is where you went wrong in your argument. don't say you don't defend them either because the quote above is saying it was wrong for cuban to expose the trash of our society. to even call those people fans is a fuckin' stretch... those "fans" aren't just angry, they are disgusting wastes of life and deserve all the backlash their wicked forked tongues have caused them!

Va'Gina spouting shit all over this forum once again.

ps: you know what's even more sad then howard and his stupidity as well as yours? i am actually siding with cuban for the 1st time ever. never thought i'd be on his side for anything.

[Shank]

Actually, what you said is kind of true.

We saw how the Portland fans responded to the negative antics of their players. The organization was forced to clean house just to attempt to re-connect with the fans and they were successful.

Cuban, on the other hand, does his Napoleon-esque rant of how his guys are being unfairly treated, etc and then tries to PUNISH the fans by exposing the emails and IPs of everyone who was angry about Howard. Keep in mind this is the umpteenth time Howard has embarrassed the organization and its fans.

Anyone who blindly roots for that organization needs to wake up and realize that the Mavericks are the armpit of the NBA.

Others on this board have taken notice and changed which team they support (Findog, Monos etc).

Maybe you should do the same.

Define "successful" in how it relates to the Trailblazers...

And as far as your suggestion, I'll stick by my team if that's alright. I know Boston fans are notorious for being bandwagon jumpers, but it's not like that everywhere else.

[Flight3107]

http://libizblog.files.wordpress.com/2007/10/moron.JPG

[dirk4mvp]

If I ever see Gino at a sporting event, you bet your ass I'm standing on my feet come time for the anthem!

[Private Joker]

Is that you John Wayne? Is this me?

[Gunnery Sgt Hartman]

Is that you John Wayne? Is this me?

Who said that? WHO THE FUCK SAID THAT? Who's the slimy little communist shit, twinkle-toed cocksucker down here who just signed his own death warrant? Nobody, huh? The fairy fucking godmother said it. Out-fucking-standing! I will PT you all until you fucking die! I'll PT you until your assholes are sucking buttermilk!

[BUMP]

Is that you John Wayne? Is this me?

:td

[Gino]

You call me a moron yet you've ditched that pathetic organization just as Ive said that all Mavs fans should?

Why don't you explain why you switched to the T-wolves if you disagree with me.

[Gino]

Define "successful" in how it relates to the Trailblazers...

And as far as your suggestion, I'll stick by my team if that's alright. I know Boston fans are notorious for being bandwagon jumpers, but it's not like that everywhere else.

Are you kidding? Not only are they widely viewed as the unprecedented "team of the future", but their fans are crazy about the team again. Did you see the Rose Garden when they drafted Oden?

They got rid of a lot of dead weight and re-vamped their image with the fans. Kudos to Paul Allen.

Even some of your fellow Mav fans have ditched the Mavs in favor of the Blazers.

[Findog]

^ This guy just continues to bukkake ownage on his own face.

[dirk4mvp]

You call me a moron yet you've ditched that pathetic organization just as Ive said that all Mavs fans should?

Why don't you explain why you switched to the T-wolves if you disagree with me.



Are you kidding? Not only are they widely viewed as the unprecedented "team of the future", but their fans are crazy about the team again. Did you see the Rose Garden when they drafted Oden?

They got rid of a lot of dead weight and re-vamped their image with the fans. Kudos to Paul Allen.

Even some of your fellow Mav fans have ditched the Mavs in favor of the Blazers.


You just don't get it do you?

[Brandon Bass]

I'm going to kick so much ass that you'll be saying "Josh Who?" by the end of the season.

[Gino]

I'm going to kick so much ass that you'll be saying "Josh Who?" by the end of the season.

:lol:lol:lol

Almost forgot about Brandon Bass. :lol

Has there ever been a more pathetic team?

When you think of the Mavs, what immediately comes to mind?

1) Dirk Choking
2) Cuban pushing away cameras after defeat like a little bitch
3) Shawn Bradley getting dunked on
4) Watching them get curb-stomped by the Warriors in 2007.

But if you really think about it, you remember the things like Josh Howard's numerous off-the-court incidents, or Brandon Bass "veto-ing" the original Kidd deal (priceless), or Cuban claiming the Finals were fixed in 2006.

Its no surprise why so many Mavs fan have abandoned their team on this board and have instead decided to go with up and coming teams like the Blazers.

[monosylab1k]

Brandon Bass "veto-ing" the original Kidd deal (priceless)

:lmao:lmao:lmao

priceless is exactly right. exactly right.

:lmao
:lmao:lmao
:lmao:lmao:lmao
:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao
:lmao:lmao:lmao
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:lmao

[koriwhat]

:lol:lol:lol

Almost forgot about Brandon Bass. :lol

Has there ever been a more pathetic team?

When you think of the Mavs, what immediately comes to mind?

1) Dirk Choking
2) Cuban pushing away cameras after defeat like a little bitch
3) Shawn Bradley getting dunked on
4) Watching them get curb-stomped by the Warriors in 2007.

But if you really think about it, you remember the things like Josh Howard's numerous off-the-court incidents, or Brandon Bass "veto-ing" the original Kidd deal (priceless), or Cuban claiming the Finals were fixed in 2006.

Its no surprise why so many Mavs fan have abandoned their team on this board and have instead decided to go with up and coming teams like the Blazers.

give up the whole abandoning the mavs organization bs you keep spouting around here... who gives a fuck! that whole jumping ship bs you keep on and on about is the only thing you keep reaching for when trying to down the other members here.

as far as i know they lost a bet and had to change their team in their profile and if they didn't so what. who cares...

i mean shit if we are gonna go down that road of bandwagon fans and what not then we must look in your direction too right? i mean who the hell was a boston fan before this past season and since their last(not latest) championship? not you i bet and not the other thousands of people claiming the green&white.

Va'Gina strikes again.

[Findog]

:lmao:lmao:lmao

priceless is exactly right. exactly right.

:lmao
:lmao:lmao
:lmao:lmao:lmao
:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao
:lmao:lmao:lmao
:lmao:lmao
:lmao



Hey, lay off Va'Gino. You're just jealous that he finally got to celebrate a championship after the Celtics traded for Jason Richardson and Chris Bosh to form a new "Big Three" alongside Antoine Walker. It sure was heartwarming to see Antoine finally bring a title to Beantown after all those years.

[stretch]

:lol:lol:lol

Almost forgot about Brandon Bass. :lol

Has there ever been a more pathetic team?

When you think of the Mavs, what immediately comes to mind?

1) Dirk Choking
2) Cuban pushing away cameras after defeat like a little bitch
3) Shawn Bradley getting dunked on
4) Watching them get curb-stomped by the Warriors in 2007.

But if you really think about it, you remember the things like Josh Howard's numerous off-the-court incidents, or Brandon Bass "veto-ing" the original Kidd deal(priceless), or Cuban claiming the Finals were fixed in 2006.

Its no surprise why so many Mavs fan have abandoned their team on this board and have instead decided to go with up and coming teams like the Blazers.

you are a fucking idiot

[Gino]

give up the whole abandoning the mavs organization bs you keep spouting around here... who gives a fuck! that whole jumping ship bs you keep on and on about is the only thing you keep reaching for when trying to down the other members here.

as far as i know they lost a bet and had to change their team in their profile and if they didn't so what. who cares...



:rolleyes

But thats my point, several mavs fans have wised up and ditched the organization.

[Gino]

you are a fucking idiot

Enlightening. But youre team is still hilarious. :lol

[Reggie Miller]

This is now officially the Worst. Thread. Ever.

Josh Howard = Dick; therefore,
Entire Mavs' Organization, Fanbase, etc. = Dicks

By this same rationale, all Americans should be committing ritual suicide by suffocating ourselves with Old Glory. I mean, Howard is an American, right? His offenses against humanity reflect upon all of us.

No doubt Super Patriot Gino will want to be among the first to prove his loyalty. The line for volunteers to shove a flag down his throat and then light it forms here...

[Gino]

This is now officially the Worst. Thread. Ever.

Josh Howard = Dick; therefore,
Entire Mavs' Organization, Fanbase, etc. = Dicks

By this same rationale, all Americans should be committing ritual suicide by suffocating ourselves with Old Glory. I mean, Howard is an American, right? His offenses against humanity reflect upon all of us.

No doubt Super Patriot Gino will want to be among the first to prove his loyalty. The line for volunteers to shove a flag down his throat and then light it forms here...

Huh?

I didn't say all the mavs were "dicks". I said they were a joke! :lol

I mean, seriously. How can you think of the Mavs and not start laughing?

[koriwhat]

Enlightening. But youre team is still hilarious. :lol

you crack me up... king of the hill. hmm... boston is hilarious! been hilarious for 20 yrs. and now they bring another championship back to bean town. great! well it was expected seeing as they had plenty of all-stars on their 1-and-done-run. you act like bean town has been bringing the o'brien home every yr since the 80's which definitely hasn't been the case.

i fuckin' hate boston! i used to have respect for pierce until he pulled that bs fake injury shit during the playoffs. that was some pathetic acting.

as for kg i'll always despise that pos. and ray allen has my respect only because of He Got Game and no other reason but that.

the only one in bean town i can stand would have to be posey and now that he's gone bean town will go back to just that, counting beans and not o'briens!

[Gino]

you crack me up... king of the hill. hmm... boston is hilarious! been hilarious for 20 yrs. and now they bring another championship back to bean town. great! well it was expected seeing as they had plenty of all-stars on their 1-and-done-run. you act like bean town has been bringing the o'brien home every yr since the 80's which definitely hasn't been the case.

i fuckin' hate boston! i used to have respect for pierce until he pulled that bs fake injury shit during the playoffs. that was some pathetic acting.

as for kg i'll always despise that pos. and ray allen has my respect only because of He Got Game and no other reason but that.

the only one in bean town i can stand would have to be posey and now that he's gone bean town will go back to just that, counting beans and not o'briens!

:lol

You HATE Boston? All Boston teams or just the Celtics?

[stretch]

Enlightening. But youre team is still hilarious. :lol

and?

[Reggie Miller]

Huh?

I didn't say all the mavs were "dicks". I said they were a joke! :lol

I mean, seriously. How can you think of the Mavs and not start laughing?


Fair enough. It's still the same sort of rationale. If I worried about professional athletes somehow "representing" me in the eyes of the world, I would have slit my wrists long ago over Corky McSosa.

[Gino]

and?

http://www.espn.go.com/photo/2007/0503/nba_g_warriors2_395.jpg

http://i.a.cnn.net/si/2007/writers/chris_ballard/05/04/mavs.warriors/p1.jason.richardson.si.jpg

http://www.allcanes.com/blog/uploaded_images/heat_champs-777955.jpg

http://weblogs.newsday.com/sports/watchdog/blog/mark-cuban.jpg

[Boston Pancake]

Brandon Bass "veto-ing" the original Kidd deal (priceless)

Lookit fuckstick, Brandon Bass didn't veto the Kidd deal. If you're gonna talk shit, do us all a favor and know what the fuck you're talking about. Stop being a fuckin douchebag and disgracing the commonwealth like this.

[Gino]

Lookit fuckstick, Brandon Bass didn't veto the Kidd deal. If you're gonna talk shit, do us all a favor and know what the fuck you're talking about. Stop being a fuckin douchebag and disgracing the commonwealth like this.

My mistake. It was Devean George. But the list continues to grow.

btw - ANOTHER troll account?

[Shank]

My mistake. It was Devean George. But the list continues to grow.

btw - ANOTHER troll account?

While I think all from Boston are douchenozzles, I can say that Boston Pancake isn't a troll and has been around here for a while.

[Gino]

While I think all from Boston are douchenozzles, I can say that Boston Pancake isn't a troll and has been around here for a while.

I looked at his post history...strangely he dissapears for long stretches of time just to make a single post every now and then.

Every post starts with "fuckstick".

His answer to a "Favorite band?" thread was "Boston." :lol

He screamed that Rajon Rondo was the best pg in the NBA.

Im pretty sure its a troll.

Edit: I just loooked at his history and he's definitely no Mavs fan.

:
lmao Pierce > The 7 Foot Nazi and there's nothing you can do about it.

[Shank]

Im pretty sure its a troll.

Then what are you?

[koriwhat]

wow shank called dirk a nazi and wasn't kicked off the board? i was for the same thing many moons ago... just goes to show ya life ain't fair. hahaha.

then i wised up and signed up for another account and have been trying my hardest to restrain from saying 99% of the shit i'd usually say without regard.

[koriwhat]

:lol

You HATE Boston? All Boston teams or just the Celtics?

well let's see here... i don't like baseball nor football so what other sports are out there? i just can't stand boston and that all started with the draft night trade of allen and got even worse with the acquisition of garnett. before that trade and acquisition i didn't think twice about boston at all.

[Shank]

wow shank called dirk a nazi and wasn't kicked off the board? i was for the same thing many moons ago... just goes to show ya life ain't fair. hahaha.

then i wised up and signed up for another account and have been trying my hardest to restrain from saying 99% of the shit i'd usually say without regard.

Fuck that.

I have NEVER called Dirk a Nazi. Instead, I'm the one that rats to Kori when others do so.

[Findog]

I am a registered sex offender

[Findog]

Dirk >>>>>>> Paul Pierce.

[stretch]

http://www.espn.go.com/photo/2007/0503/nba_g_warriors2_395.jpg

http://i.a.cnn.net/si/2007/writers/chris_ballard/05/04/mavs.warriors/p1.jason.richardson.si.jpg

http://www.allcanes.com/blog/uploaded_images/heat_champs-777955.jpg

http://weblogs.newsday.com/sports/watchdog/blog/mark-cuban.jpg

:td

fail

[dirk4mvp]

neat thread.