Will Jay Howard ever return to the air waves?

[Bang]

What would it take to bring the greatest Spurs broadcaster back to our radios?

[honestfool84]

"parker gives it to ginobili.
nash up all over him.
o'neal with the help as ginobili takes it to the basket.
ginobili slams it to duncan at the three point line.
he puts it up, for three...?
BANG!"
-jay howard, WOAI commentator for game 1 of 2008 WC semifinals vs phoenix suns.

[Bang]

"parker gives it to ginobili.
nash up all over him.
o'neal with the help as ginobili takes it to the basket.
ginobili slams it to duncan at the three point line.
he puts it up, for three...?
BANG!"
-jay howard, WOAI commentator for game 1 of 2008 WC semifinals vs phoenix suns.


Too bad we missed out on that classic moment and had to listen to a generic everyman.

[baseline bum]

Fuck WOAI for ever letting Jay go for this Schoening clown.

[Obstructed_View]

Schoening>>>>>>Howard IMHO, at least for PBP. Jay was tolerable before he stole "bang" from Keith Olbermann.

[T Park]

Fuck WOAI for ever letting Jay go for this Schoening clown.

Amen....

I stopped listening to OAI consistently after that happened.

[T Park]

Schoening>>>>>>Howard IMHO, at least for PBP. Jay was tolerable before he stole "bang" from Keith Olbermann.


Schoening is a hack.

He stutters and has wayyyyyyyyyyy too much dead air for a PBP guy, ESPECIALLY radio.

Hes a funny guy, a NICE guy, but he has no business calling PBP for a professional basketball team.

PERIOD.

[Jimmy Bobby]

What a bunch of crap! Bill Schoening is the finest PBP man in all of the NBA. Clear Channel was right to remove Jay Howard for Bill. Just look at the fine broadcasters Clear Channel has provided for you in the past few years: Bill Schoening, Walter Pasacrita, Mike Taylor, Jim Bob, Peter Burns and Andy Everett.

Getting rid of the Thompson Brothers and breaking up Charlie & Chance paved the way for the quality sports broadcasts we can all treasure today.

Kudos to Clear Channel for having the vision to give Spurs fans the quality, knowledgable sports minds they deserve.

[mouse]

Despite Tpark trying to keep me from posting I will make a sacrifice and suffer his insults to reply to this topic



Jay Howard was a product of the politics of money and how it infects the radio world.

Ego's vs Pima donnas Station owners vs stock holders.


Never in the history of sports has someone lost a job due from doing it well it's always about money.

Jay Howard had a job doing Spurs play by play for over 20 years,...you do the math.

"A ledgen will never die"
:Johnny Bottomline 2001

[AlamoSpursFan]

I'd be happy with Jay Howard back behind the mike.

And ship Schoening back to the Longhorns. Their radio team has sucked ass since he left. Craig Way should be doing 3A high school games in west Texas.

[Salad Tosser]

Sometimes you have to take one for the team.

[Sissiborgo]

I would love to see him there....:toast

[urunobili]

Schoening>>>>>>Howard IMHO, at least for PBP. Jay was tolerable before he stole "bang" from Keith Olbermann.

Bill Schoening is the BEST in business for Spurs radio... PERIOD

[my2sons]

Bill Schoening is the BEST in business for Spurs radio... PERIOD

i wouldn't know, I stopped casually listening after the remember the alamo..remember this moment...yadda yadda yadda...

Jay is the only play by play where I would tune out the national broadcast and listen to him...

Thank goodness for sean elliott for giving me an alternative and making me put jay way in the recesses of my mind. Schoenig is mediocre but the best...wow...just wow

[xtremesteven33]

Schoening is the best in the NBA.....not even close

[101A]

I listened to Spurs broadcasts as I moved around Texas from '86 - '95 when I finally moved back to SA. Jay Howard was a great PBP guy.

Now I've moved to PA, and listed to Shoening; he's pretty good, too.

It might be nostalgia, but I think I enjoyed Howard more.

[SenorSpur]

Anyone know why he was left go in the first place?

[samikeyp]

:lmao @ Bang's Avatar...I didn't know Jay Howard had a famous wife! :lol

[tonylongoriafan]

if jay howard was so good, why hasn't he landed another nba gig...besides, he was a homer...bill shoenig is solid...i bet those that want howard back also want bob hill back too

[Jimmy Bobby]

if jay howard was so good, why hasn't he landed another nba gig...besides, he was a homer...bill shoenig is solid...i bet those that want howard back also want bob hill back too

Exactly. The pro-Howard people are idiots and no nothing about PBP. Deep down, you're just Spurs haters.

[my2sons]

hmm championship closing:

Jay howard: ...and the pride of the great lone star state are NBA Champions

Schoenig: ....remember the alamo and remember this moment....

ya haters....You can keep current broadcaster, I will watch on tv or not listen at the games.

[YODA]

Anyone know why he was left go in the first place?


I thinkhe bit the hand that fed him. On some shows, talked badly about spurs front office, etc

[tonylongoriafan]

hmm championship closing:

Jay howard: ...and the pride of the great lone star state are NBA Champions

Schoenig: ....remember the alamo and remember this moment....

ya haters....You can keep current broadcaster, I will watch on tv or not listen at the games.

all the tv broadcasters and commenters suck out loud...if is wasn't so difficult to sync them up with the delays between the radio and tv broadcast, i would turn down the tv volume and listen to the radio...

THAT'S THE BEST PART ABOUT GOING TO THE BIG GAMES (at least home games)...eff the TV
:flag::flag::flag:

[Kori Ellis]

Schoening is a hack.

He stutters and has wayyyyyyyyyyy too much dead air for a PBP guy, ESPECIALLY radio.

Hes a funny guy, a NICE guy, but he has no business calling PBP for a professional basketball team.

PERIOD.

He's won numerous awards for PBP, including the Associated Press has given him the Top Texas Play-by-Play award four times. So apparently, you are in the minority.

[Kori Ellis]

I agree that Jay Howard was good, but he didn't treat people well and had a huge ego. He hasn't been able to get a decent radio job since and I believe he's now out of radio (at one point a few years back I heard he was going into real estate). That should tell you something ... Because pretty much any radio guy can just move on to another station.

[High Road]

Schoening is easily one of the best radio play by play guys in the NBA. On top of everything he stays out of the politics in radio for the most part. Mostly because he doesn't have a radio show like Jay Howard did. But too many people liked Jay Howard too much and never gave Bill a chance. You could pick any great broadcaster in the world that is better than Jay Howard, but if it isn't Jay Howard you guys won't give him a chance.


I know many people who could do a better job than Larry king but then it wouldn't be larry king anymore.would it?

[Last Comic Standing]

I agree that Jay Howard was good, but he didn't treat people well and had a huge ego. He hasn't been able to get a decent radio job since and I believe he's now out of radio (at one point a few years back I heard he was going into real estate). That should tell you something ... Because pretty much any radio guy can just move on to another station.

So he didn't leave with a Bang?

What do you get when you mix the hells angels with Jay Howard?

[Obstructed_View]

Schoening is a hack.

He stutters and has wayyyyyyyyyyy too much dead air for a PBP guy, ESPECIALLY radio.

Hes a funny guy, a NICE guy, but he has no business calling PBP for a professional basketball team.

PERIOD.

You are entitled to your opinion. Since most of your opinions are stupid, I'm pretty comfortable with my choice of Schoening over Howard, thanks.

[my2sons]

I agree that Jay Howard was good, but he didn't treat people well and had a huge ego. He hasn't been able to get a decent radio job since and I believe he's now out of radio (at one point a few years back I heard he was going into real estate). That should tell you something ... Because pretty much any radio guy can just move on to another station.

Actually, Jay came out on espn w/chris duel. He told some stories, addressed his problems at oai and is now working in the financial industry as I think a broker. I think it was partly his decision to stay in SA and obviously his poor reputation may have cost him his radio career. He did say that he received a few offers, but it never seemed to be the right time for what its worth. As far as schoenig is concerned, I'm sure he has won some awards, I just never warmed up to his style of play by play. I know alot of people like him, it just seems just as many people don't like him as a play by play guy. Alot of people disliked Jay, but very few made any negative comments about his play by play, in fact most was positive, it was his radio show and personality that got in his way and received the negative label. I don't know, has Pop ever said anything positive about Bill?

[Spurs Brazil]

I like Shoening.

I think he does a great job and I listen to him in 75 to 77 games a years. The others I can see here on ESPN

[jdaveah]

I work with Jay now at a financial firm here in SA. Suffice it to say his not being in radio is a choice he made.

[baseline bum]

I work with Jay now at a financial firm here in SA. Suffice it to say his not being in radio is a choice he made.

Be sure to tell him a lot of Spurs fans loved his play by play and miss him.

[T Park]

Be sure to tell him a lot of Spurs fans loved his play by play and miss him.

Ditto.

Tell him to work at the new ESPN station so he can add some Spurs insight...

[cool hand]

Jay Howard's mouth sucked too much Spurs dick......if he would have been a little more unbiased and onjective he would still have his job.

[Bang]

If he didn't have to do a talk show, why would he?

Have to do a talk show? I think Jay Howard did it because he enjoyed it.

It's a little elitist of Schoening to talk about not having to do a radio talk show.

Clear Channel did what it always does: brought in a guy from out-of-town who has no concept of the San Antonio culture. Bill Schoening is efficient, but utterly unremarkable and unmemorable. Jay Howard was, and is, infinitely talented and memorable.

In the words of The Great One, BANG!!!

[callo1]

I agree that Jay Howard was good, but he didn't treat people well and had a huge ego. He hasn't been able to get a decent radio job since and I believe he's now out of radio (at one point a few years back I heard he was going into real estate). That should tell you something ... Because pretty much any radio guy can just move on to another station.

Howard was one of the most arrogant people I have ever met. I was glad to see the change and still am.

[Jimmy Bobby]

I'm willing to bet that you're in fact Jay Howard giving yourself an ego boost by posting this thread.

Yeah! Why is Jay Howard pimping himself on this message board? How pathetic. WOAI and Ticket 760 are dominating the market with our A-list talent.

Jay is just jealous.

[tmtcsc]

Jay Howard was better at PBP. All the other stuff about EGO and this or that doesn't matter. Why didn't he get another job doing PBP after the Spurs ? Not many openings for NBA gigs.

[Jimmy Bobby]

Jay Howard was better at PBP. All the other stuff about EGO and this or that doesn't matter. Why didn't he get another job doing PBP after the Spurs ? Not many openings for NBA gigs.

Shut up, you idiot. If Jay Howard had any talent, don't you think he could have at least gotten the Memphis Grizzlies gig? Clear Channel did a nationwide talent search to bring in Schoening from Austin, Taylor from Dallas and Pasacrita from Jersey. Sit back and enjoy the broadcasts or move out of San Antonio, loser.

[Tree hugger]

And why does Bill need to do a talk show?

he doesn't have to do any show, no one wants anyone to do something they don't have the passion for. Jay went that extra mile. he was all about Spurs not just doing it for a pay check.



I don't find it elitist at all that a guy who works 9 months of the year traveling needs to also host a talk show that would be just the same if Walter Pasacrita were the host.

Walter? are you sucking on a a crack pipe? If I knew you was going to compare Walter to someone with talent i would not have wasted my time quoting you.



And why does he need to have a concept of San Antonio culture? It's basketball. Last time I checked basketball is pretty much the same in San Antonio as it is in Austin, or even Europe.


That shows your new as a Spurs fan, poeple down here don't look at the Spurs as just another NBA team, they look at them as Family.
Knowing this city is part of knowing the spurs, not just now but from the 80s.

David Robinson is like a big brother to many poeple here in san Antonio.
He loves San Antonio and has loyalty unlike your Kevin Garnetts and Allen Iversons of today.

The more you talk the more it shows your just a drug store Spurs fan.

[tmtcsc]

Shut up, you idiot. If Jay Howard had any talent, don't you think he could have at least gotten the Memphis Grizzlies gig? Clear Channel did a nationwide talent search to bring in Schoening from Austin, Taylor from Dallas and Pasacrita from Jersey. Sit back and enjoy the broadcasts or move out of San Antonio, loser.

Stop being a little drama queen and take your lips off Schoening's tool for a second. When did the Grizzlies PBP job open up ? Remember the Alamo !!! And Remember Jimmy Bobby has a Man Crush on Bill Schoening !! Punk Ass ignit fool.

If anyone is in dire need of being bitch slapped, its you..:lmao at your Nationwide Talent search. Were you the recruiter on that ? Did you go all the way to Austin to find him ??

Dumbass, everyone knows Pasacrita stayed here after his car broke down delivering a Pizza to Clear Channel.

[Salad Tosser]

Take your man crush to another site punk.


http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k216/mrSprinklez/E-thug.jpg

[tmtcsc]

http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k216/mrSprinklez/E-thug.jpg

Oh look, its Salad Tosser. You came up with that name ? You are forever the answer to the question nobody asked. Fuck off punk and take your Schoening love with you.

[Del Griffith]

Oh look, its Salad Tosser. You came up with that name ? You are forever the answer to the question nobody asked. Fuck off punk and take your Schoening love with you.

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p55/RackTheMouse/Bully2.jpg

[AlamoSpursFan]

Stop being a little drama queen and take your lips off Schoening's tool for a second. When did the Grizzlies PBP job open up ? Remember the Alamo !!! And Remember Jimmy Bobby has a Man Crush on Bill Schoening !! Punk Ass ignit fool.

If anyone is in dire need of being bitch slapped, its you..:lmao at your Nationwide Talent search. Were you the recruiter on that ? Did you go all the way to Austin to find him ??

Dumbass, everyone knows Pasacrita stayed here after his car broke down delivering a Pizza to Clear Channel.

Troll 1,
tmtcsc 0

:lmao

[AlamoSpursFan]

Oh look, its Salad Tosser. You came up with that name ? You are forever the answer to the question nobody asked. Fuck off punk and take your Schoening love with you.

Troll 2,
tmtcsc 0

:lol

[Big Worm]

take your lips off Schoening's tool for a second. Jimmy Bobby has a Man Crush on Bill Schoening !! Punk Ass ignit fool.

If anyone is in dire need of being bitch slapped, its you...


http://bp3.blogger.com/_8CVwWVjJ_ms/R_ZwvEFTVXI/AAAAAAAAAKs/taaFkYPFAZA/s400/eThug.jpg

[MrChug]

Bill Shoening is a personal friend of mine and you used tampons of fans that think he sucks just don't listen. Did you know he's one of the only broadcasters to do play by play AND color commentary in the NBA? He doesn't need to lay his shoulder on ex-players and coaches to provide fantastic commentary.

Now, with that said-Jay Howard was among my favorite voices of all time, but I don't know him as a person, and I just happen to think Bill is better. No slip ups, not a single misquote without correcting himself soon after.

[tmtcsc]

http://bp3.blogger.com/_8CVwWVjJ_ms/R_ZwvEFTVXI/AAAAAAAAAKs/taaFkYPFAZA/s400/eThug.jpg

You want some too Big Worm ??

http://www.demotivateus.com/posters/ethug-thug-whooped-rep-demotivational-poster.jpg

Don't think for a second I'm not playing along with this nonsense, name calling, message board tough guy stuff. It's all good. I've raped tougher guys than all of you in cyberspace prison...:p:

[tmtcsc]

Troll 2,
tmtcsc 0

:lol

How is 2-0 in favor of troll ?

[MrChug]

I've raped tougher guys than all of you in cyberspace prison...:p:

Okay, that was pretty fuckin funny.

[pedobear]

I've raped tougher guys than all of you in cyberspace prison...:p:


I remember. good times! :tu

[century]

WOAI is one fucked up outfit. But they seem to get ratings despite themselves. Too bad Clearchannel didn't get totally wiped out in the aftermath of their financial mismanagement and resulting chopping up. Those people ruined radio in this country.

[MrChug]

WOAI is one fucked up outfit. But they seem to get ratings despite themselves. Too bad Clearchannel didn't get totally wiped out in the aftermath of their financial mismanagement and resulting chopping up. Those people ruined radio in this country.

A little angry are we?

Ladies and gentleman!!! I PRODUCE AN EX-EMPLOYEE OF WOAI!!!!!! :toast

[Willinsa]

How about on Tv I liked Greg Papa and Joel Myers.

[Jimmy Bobby]

WOAI is one fucked up outfit. But they seem to get ratings despite themselves. Too bad Clearchannel didn't get totally wiped out in the aftermath of their financial mismanagement and resulting chopping up. Those people ruined radio in this country.

Shut up, IDIOT! You're either a former Clear Channel employee or a current ESPN employee or BOTH!!!!

[twincam]

OMG...I miss hearing Jay Howard's play-by-play...he makes it so exciting.

I also miss Pat Tallman (The original Spurs announcer)

[Biernutz]

Jay Howard ---Nope

[cbinge]

I'm willing to bet that you're in fact Jay Howard giving yourself an ego boost by posting this thread.

And why does Bill need to do a talk show? I don't find it elitist at all that a guy who works 9 months of the year traveling needs to also host a talk show that would be just the same if Walter Pasacrita were the host. And why does he need to have a concept of San Antonio culture? It's basketball. Last time I checked basketball is pretty much the same in San Antonio as it is in Austin, or even Europe. Sure the level of play is different, but there are still 10 players on a hardwood court trying to put a ball through a hoop. It's not that hard to grasp. And if Jay were so "talented and memorable" why wouldn't the Spurs try to keep him? As I have heard, the Spurs went after Schoening, they were the ones who approached him about replacing Howard.

I agree bang=jay

and it would be like jay to pat himself on the back.

[cbinge]

OMG...I miss hearing Jay Howard's play-by-play...he makes it so exciting.

I also miss Pat Tallman (The original Spurs announcer)

How about Terry Stembridge?

[SenorSpur]

As someone who lives away from SA and listens to his share of Spurs radio, I admit it took a while for me to warm up to Schoenig. Howard was fantastic, but Schoenig is solid and good, in his own right. The guy is a pro's pro.

From time to time, I've heard him make guest appearances on our local Dallas airwaves. He answers all questions in thought-provoking style and comes off knowledgeable and with a sense of humor.

Quick Story: A couple of years ago, Bill got really pissed off at a couple of local blowhards on our Ticket Sports station (AM 1310) - and with good reason. They invited Bill onto the show for an interview, prior to an upcoming Spurs/Mavs tilt. Instead of a normal interview, these guys started invoking their own personal brand of schtick, complete with some non-basketball questions and some veiled insults of the Spurs and such. Schoenig asked what the purpose of the interview was, then calmly and casusally chastized them and excused himself from the interview. Of course, these later guys criticized Bill for having no sense of humor. Damn fools!

[century]

A little angry are we?

Ladies and gentleman!!! I PRODUCE AN EX-EMPLOYEE OF WOAI!!!!!! :toast

No, lamebrain. I've worked in biotech since '91. I just like local programming and am extremely tired of hearing Clearchannel's prepackaged extreme-right-wing-jesus-freak propaganda all over the country. I actually like Rush because he's an original but I puke at Hannity, Miller and the other copycat morons that pollute the national airwaves thanks to Clearchannel.

And yes I really salivated at the though of Clearchannel's collapse and disappearance from the corporate scene. :lol

I guess it is my turn to assume that you're one of their current corporate whores...

[jdaveah]

Jay Howard's mouth sucked too much Spurs dick......if he would have been a little more unbiased and onjective he would still have his job.




The reason that he isn't there anymore is precisely the opposite of what you just said. Nice work.

[jdaveah]

Shut up, you idiot. If Jay Howard had any talent, don't you think he could have at least gotten the Memphis Grizzlies gig? Clear Channel did a nationwide talent search to bring in Schoening from Austin, Taylor from Dallas and Pasacrita from Jersey. Sit back and enjoy the broadcasts or move out of San Antonio, loser.



Ever thought the reason he didn't get another gig was because he didn't want another gig in radio?

[Steve Perry]

How is 2-0 in favor of troll ?

The worst part about being pw3n'd on the www, is not knowing until you have been quoted.

[tmtcsc]

The worst part about being pw3n'd on the www, is not knowing until you have been quoted.


Shucks Steve....damn. What ?

[Real Tomato Ketchup]

I agree that Jay Howard was good, but he didn't treat people well and had a huge ego. He hasn't been able to get a decent radio job since and I believe he's now out of radio (at one point a few years back I heard he was going into real estate). That should tell you something ... Because pretty much any radio guy can just move on to another station.

That's it and that's all.

And he was the "voice"

[my2sons]

Schoening made the next two better. And while I am a spurs fan, why are the Spurs the pride of the lone star state? While pretty much everyone who doesn't live under a rock has heard of them there are other things in Texas. For example the Rockets and the Mavs. The University of Texas, the Astros and Rangers. Compared to "the pride of Texas" Remember the alamo makes more sence because that is what San Antionio as a city is known for.

Plus while I don't have the Duncan 3 pointer on hand, I do have the copy of Bill's game 5 of the NBA finals(2005) at hand and robert Horry's shot call was pretty good(as well as Sean's color comentary, this was before he became a huge homer) I even listened for some of the "flaws" pointed out and didn't really notice anything.

Although I did think about what people liked about Jay. He had been with the Spurs for 12 years, and he did have a talk show where he talked to the fans and had a Q&A with Pop. That was the same situation with Schoening in Austin, he showed his personality off a lot and answered the questions of the fans. Had Schoening decided to do a 4-7 talk show in San Antonio he might be more popular, but several times he has stated that he likes the Spurs because he doesn't not do a talk show and he gets the summer between the Spurs' emilination or championship victory and October off. I don't blame the guy, thats a nice job. You travel to major cities, live in nice hotels and get to do what you want in the months of summer. If he didn't have to do a talk show, why would he?


Jay paid tribute to terry stembridge with that quote. It funny though how memorable quotes can be.
Thats a manu tres, tre bien for tony
Jay: Sean Elliott with an off balance three.....B-A-N-G!!!
You reference schoenig's play by play on horry shot, what did he say. The moment was memorable what was the soundbite. Like I said, It's alright that schoenig is the play by play, I just don't listen nearly as much as I used to. Its a personal preference. I know people don't like jay and some don't like bill. I was dissapointed to see terry stembridge go and thought no one could ever replace him, but they did and some day they will replace bill. I just wonder how many play by play quotes would be relieved if jay cover a couple of those championship games.

[MrChug]

I swear without even listening to the audo I have on a disk somewhere this is word for word what Bill Schoening said on his Horry play. "Inbound pass will come from Robert Horry over to the corner to Manu Ginobili-back out to Horry for three-left wing! The shot is good by Robert Horry! He puts the Spurs up by one with 5.8 seconds to go!" On top of that he came up with Manu vodoo which was played on NBA TV for several months.

The fact is I really don't care anymore. Everyone has their own opinion on who is better at what. I thought Jay was slow and boring and most of the time was just going through the motions. Granted he could have been a very good talk show guy for you guys in San Antonio, but I will find it hard to believe he was better than Schoening was down here.

And going back to what SenorSpur was saying, I once heard Bill, on a national radio show durring the 2005 NBA finals stand up to this big time NFL player on the show who called Tim Duncan soft. Schoening showed him up. He was like "Is Ben Wallace tough?" The guy answered yes. So Schoening said back, "So just because Tim Duncan doesn't bang his chest, or talk trash he is soft? Let me tell you, you can't be soft and average 20 points and 10 rebounds in the NBA."

Bill was never on that show again to my knowledge but he defended the Spurs and Tim when people talked bad about them.

Damn...good story. I've gotta keep that one (ask his ass about it too).

[Nego]

I agree that Jay Howard was good, but he didn't treat people well and had a huge ego. He hasn't been able to get a decent radio job since and I believe he's now out of radio (at one point a few years back I heard he was going into real estate). That should tell you something ... Because pretty much any radio guy can just move on to another station.

I was going to say the same thing but Kori beat me to it... Did y'all ever actually listen to his show those last years??? ..He had become to big for himself...he hung up on people... talked down to first time callers who called to ask simple questions... he and Laura Green were constantly smacking down Pasacrita when he first got there... the routine just got old..

...so Kori is right..thats probably why he doesnt have a job right now...

[mouse]

Jay Howard was a GOD! and I will not return to this topic until you all apologize to him.

[ChuckD]

The reason that he isn't there anymore is precisely the opposite of what you just said. Nice work.
The reason he isn't here is that he fell for the Del Negro ploy, and rejected a Spurs offer when they really didn't want to pay him more. He was not fired. I repeat, he was not fired. His contract had elapsed. Any time you turn down an employer's new contract offer, you are putting your continued employment in jeopardy.


Ever thought the reason he didn't get another gig was because he didn't want another gig in radio?
Uh, yeah, like that's not a massive rationalization.

[GSH]

I agree that Jay Howard was good, but he didn't treat people well and had a huge ego. He hasn't been able to get a decent radio job since and I believe he's now out of radio (at one point a few years back I heard he was going into real estate). That should tell you something ... Because pretty much any radio guy can just move on to another station.

He's working for a financial management firm in SA. He was a blatant homer on the air, but what the hell? Local broadcast of the local team... I always sort of expected that. And I enjoyed listening to the games he called. That being said, he can be pretty abrasive and negative in person. That's not exactly an asset in a job that is, in many ways, a popularity contest.

I'm sure there were a list of reasons why he "went away". But Numero Uno on the list was when he called out the owner of Body Solutions on the air, and pointed out that he was fat. That was sort of a problem since the guy was selling a "miracle" weight-loss product, and his company was a MAJOR source of advertising revenue. Say whatever you want to, but he was doomed from the moment he made that comment.

The sad thing is, of all the things Jay ever said, I think that was his crowning moment. I thought it was hilarious at the time, but I was also happy that somebody had the courage to call Body Solutions on the carpet. It had to be obvious to everyone that either a) the guy wasn't using his own product, or b) the product didn't work. As it turned out, the product was a scam. The company went belly-up, and left a lot of businesses in town (including WOAI, I believe?) holding a lot of unpaid bills.

Hilarious? Yes. Courageous? Maybe. Smart? Not even close. Sean might have gotten by with the comment by making it funny*, but Jay made it clear he was calling the guy a phony. And yes, that incident probably didn't help his prospects when he went looking for a similar broadcast job elsehwere. There may even have been a little blacklist action behind the scenes.

I like Schoening just fine, but I think I had more fun listening to Jay. He was totally unashamed of being a homer, so I can see why the fans from other teams wouldn't like him. But to answer the title question... no, he will probably never return to the airwaves.

*One of my all-time favorites was when Sean said that Ben Wallace's hair made him look like a Mr. Microphone. Nobody else could get by with that.

[=RTM=]

And one time every Spurs fan on earth worshiped Jay Howard but just like Spur fans your quick to turn your backs on people just ask Avery Johnson.

[Milton.]

I was told Jay Howard was the voice of the spurs that is what i was told.

[jdaveah]

Uh, yeah, like that's not a massive rationalization.

Look, I'm sure you completely believe you know what you're talking about here so I'm not going to argue with a wall. All I will say is that many times when a person has worked in one industry for decades and an opportunity presents itself to take your life in a different direction, they jump on it. You act like being on the radio is some end all be all thing and that once you get on the only way you'd ever want to be off is if you were forced. I won't argue with some of the negative points brought up in this thread, but suggesting you know exactly what a man wants is fairly ignorant.

[Banjo Boy]

Has anyone ever ask Jay why he left?

[JsnSA]

I'm sure there were a list of reasons why he "went away". But Numero Uno on the list was when he called out the owner of Body Solutions on the air, and pointed out that he was fat. That was sort of a problem since the guy was selling a "miracle" weight-loss product, and his company was a MAJOR source of advertising revenue. Say whatever you want to, but he was doomed from the moment he made that comment.

The sad thing is, of all the things Jay ever said, I think that was his crowning moment. I thought it was hilarious at the time, but I was also happy that somebody had the courage to call Body Solutions on the carpet. It had to be obvious to everyone that either a) the guy wasn't using his own product, or b) the product didn't work. As it turned out, the product was a scam. The company went belly-up, and left a lot of businesses in town (including WOAI, I believe?) holding a lot of unpaid bills.



Thats funny because I remember when Jay was hawking that Body Solutions stuff all the time but he never seemed to lose any weight. As for his PBP I thought he was pretty good but he came off as a pompous ass on his show.

On a side note...does anyone know if the Energy Solutions people who have the naming rights to the Utah Jazz arena are the same company selling a different product??

[Bang]

BANG!!! :flag:

[Al Gore]

Jay Howard invented the Bang!

[Lisa Jobs]

He is on now! 1250 AM ESPN

[Many PackYao]

I was told Jay Howard was the voice of the spurs that is what i was told.
I was told that J. Howard is a blunt-puffin', National Anthem hatin' Mavs player.:p:

[Rack The Trolls!]

I heard part of the show today and Jay Howard asked Chris Duel for some sort of dump button to get rid of callers he didn't want to hear any more. I also heard Tpark spend 4 minutes of his 4 1/2 minutes on the radio tossing Jay's salad.

Not that I don't think Tpark was kissing ass but Jay immediately made sounds like he was very bored and that he doesn't give a rats ass.

he said thanks for the phone call not allowing Tpark to have a final word.

It doesn't matter if Jay Howard was trying to be funny, and it doesn't matter if Tpark says he had to get off early.

I just thought Jay Howard could try to put to rest the rumors of him being Anal, and maybe after all this time come back with a new fresh start a new Jay Howard.

But if that is what he wants us to remember the old Jay Howard then he will bring back many memories of the past and some of them may not be good ones.

I myself would have just put on an act and let the listeners think you have changed and still be the asshat in person.

But they run the show and we can only tune in or change the dial so I doubt any one really cares what i think.

Rack Jay Howard.

[T Park]

All class as always Mouse, as always.

[polandprzem]

All class as always Mouse, as always.

Hay Jack, hows the list of twenty you've been working on?

[mouse]

All class as always Mouse, as always.

If tossing Jay Howard's salad for 4 minutes on a live AM radio show like some 10 year old girl talking to Hanna Montana is your definition of class?

Then count me absent.


You know Tpark that outline you see every night on your well stained sponge Bob boxers you seem to be attached too and wont take off? that is the outline of where your balls used to be........ where have they gone brah?


At one time you ruled ST!

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p55/RackTheMouse/RTM-3/IMAG0902.jpg



Then it went to your head.

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p55/RackTheMouse/RTM-3/IMAG0904.jpg





And now I made you my biioch!

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p55/RackTheMouse/RTM-3/IMAG0908.jpg

[polandprzem]

:lol

ouch

[T Park]

You win mouse.

You win.



I'm done here.

[polandprzem]

I'm done here.

Can you keep your promise?



no


( :lol )

[my2sons]

I heard part of the show today and Jay Howard asked Chris Duel for some sort of dump button to get rid of callers he didn't want to hear any more. I also heard Tpark spend 4 minutes of his 4 1/2 minutes on the radio tossing Jay's salad.

Not that I don't think Tpark was kissing ass but Jay immediately made sounds like he was very bored and that he doesn't give a rats ass.

he said thanks for the phone call not allowing Tpark to have a final word.

It doesn't matter if Jay Howard was trying to be funny, and it doesn't matter if Tpark says he had to get off early.

I just thought Jay Howard could try to put to rest the rumors of him being Anal, and maybe after all this time come back with a new fresh start a new Jay Howard.

But if that is what he wants us to remember the old Jay Howard then he will bring back many memories of the past and some of them may not be good ones.

I myself would have just put on an act and let the listeners think you have changed and still be the asshat in person.

But they run the show and we can only tune in or change the dial so I doubt any one really cares what i think.

Rack Jay Howard.


Well according to your rant, jay could have been mother teresa and you would have found something negative about his broadcast.

[mouse]

It looked more like an honest observation to me. I guess no one can give there honest opinions you all just want ass kissing complements 24/7?

Maybe next time you can actually tune in yourself so I may take your opinion seriously.

[MrChug]

Howard was disliked by his co-workers, very biased on the air. Never got the ratings he needed, and didn't "leave" (take what you want from that).

[my2sons]

It looked more like an honest observation to me. I guess no one can give there honest opinions you all just want ass kissing complements 24/7?

Maybe next time you can actually tune in yourself so I may take your opinion seriously.

I guess you're right on this one, look at the flack you're giving me for simply expressing my opinion

[mouse]

I guess you're right on this one, look at the flack you're giving me for simply expressing my opinion

You didn't give your opinion you accused the man of ranting.


Well according to your rant,


Then you made a sarcastic remark.



jay could have been mother teresa and you would have found something negative about his broadcast.

Where is your opinion again?

[mouse]

It won't take the ESPN channel too long to find out that Jay is just not a peronality people will like. When it is a broadcasting position you rarley put your personality in it, you just explain what happens. Bill Schoening was a good talk show guy. He was extremly entertaining and nice to the callers. And even from game broadcasts he is pretty funny. I remember the Spurs were playing the Kings last year and the Kings played downright terrible and with about 2 minutes to go in the second quarter Bill said something along the lines of "That sound you are hearing is Dr. James Nasmith turning over in his grave."

This vato gets it! ^

I like Jay Howard but his ego and anal ways will always be what some of us will remember him by,
most people will only remember his BANG!

[MrChug]

This vato gets it! ^

I like Jay Howard but his ego and anal ways will always be what some of us will remember him by,
most people will only remember his BANG!

I always thought that was the sound of the door hitting him in the ass...