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Nbadan
09-21-2008, 04:22 PM
hmmm.......

Rumor from some 'well-connected' Texas Republicans is that McCain is considering dumping Palin...(maybe for Romney) seems that she had become to much of a drag on the ticket and the trooper-gate scandal hasn't even reached a crescendo yet....don't know how much weight to put on this rumor but if the sources weren't so reliable in the past, I wouldn't let you know....

....more on this as I hear it..........

Aggie Hoopsfan
09-21-2008, 04:23 PM
:lol

Scuttlebutt: Democrats still scared shitless of Palin. More at 10.

ChumpDumper
09-21-2008, 04:23 PM
Wishful thinking.

Nbadan
09-21-2008, 04:24 PM
by who? Republicans?

:lol

ChumpDumper
09-21-2008, 04:26 PM
Democrats.

Negative ads, Palin and the POW story are pretty much all McCain has to run on to get undecided voters.

Findog
09-21-2008, 04:29 PM
:lol

Scuttlebutt: Democrats still scared shitless of Palin. More at 10.

:lmao

Personally, I hope he keeps her on the ticket, she has the worst favorable ratings of all four.

Findog
09-21-2008, 04:32 PM
Keep her John:

http://www.tampabay.com/news/politics/state/article818181.ece

ST. PETERSBURG — Five weeks ago, the St. Petersburg Times convened a group of Tampa Bay voters who were undecided about the presidential election. Their strong distrust of Barack Obama suggested it was a group ripe for John McCain to win over.

Not anymore. The group has swung dramatically, if unenthusiastically, toward Democrat Obama. Most of them this week cited the same reason: Sarah Palin.

"The one thing that frightens me more than anything else are the ideologues. We've seen too many," said 80-year-old Air Force veteran Donn Spegal, a lifelong Republican from St. Petersburg, who sees McCain's new running mate as the kind of "wedge issue" social conservative that has made him disenchanted with his party.

"I'm truly offended by Palin,'' said Republican Philinia Lehr, 37, of Largo, a full-time mother with a nursing degree who voted for George Bush in 2004. Like Palin, she has five children and she doesn't buy that the Alaska governor can adequately balance her family and the vice presidency.

"You're somebody's mom and what are you going to do, say, 'Excuse me, country, hold on?' … She's preaching that she's this mom of the year and taking that poor little baby all over everywhere. And, you know, what she's doing to her 17-year-old daughter is just appalling.'' Lehr said she's bothered by the way Palin's pregnant daughter has been brought into the national spotlight.

Of the 11 undecided voters participating in the discussion one recent evening at the Times — four Republicans, five Democrats, and two registered to no party — only two Republican men applauded the selection of Palin.

Nobody had finalized a choice, but seven of the panelists said that McCain's running mate selection had made them more likely to vote for Obama, and in several cases much more likely.

"And that ticks me off because I do not want Obama,'' said Democrat Annette Kocsis, 68, a former Hillary Rodham Clinton supporter from Clearwater, scoffing at "the pit bull in lipstick," as Palin has called herself.

Palin, who makes her first Florida campaign stop Sunday in a Republican stronghold in north-central Florida, has generated enthusiasm among conservatives. But at least with this randomly selected group of swing voters, she appears to be an obstacle to McCain's winning over disillusioned Democrats or moderates.

"That was almost insulting," Democrat Rhonda Laris of Temple Terrace, another strong Clinton backer skeptical of Obama, said of the Palin pick. "Do they think we're really stupid? … I'm definitely leaning toward the Democratic side now. Sarah Palin scares ... me."

Obama is not making inroads because of anything he has done or said. It's more that McCain has repelled these swing voters in the biggest battleground region of the biggest battleground state. In several cases, voters who had sounded hungry for a reason to vote for McCain now sound resigned to settling for Obama.

"It's McCain's beliefs," said Annette Maakestad, 57, of St. Petersburg, explaining why she's shifting toward Obama. "I don't think he's changed or he's going to change his party that much."

But they're still not sold on the Illinois senator.

"I really wanted someone youthful and someone who could relate more to the future generations," said Republican Jim Soltis, 70, of Holiday, who is weighing his desire for expanded health insurance access with maintaining Bush's tax cuts. "So I keep watching and watching and hoping for Obama to say the right things, and he's not saying them."

Most members of the panel participated in a similar meeting in August, though three new voters joined the group this week. The conventions did nothing for them — bored them, in many cases — and they're looking for the debates starting Friday to finally help them make up their minds.

"I'm not crazy about Obama, and I'm really not crazy about McCain," said Democrat Carlos Gonzalez, a 70-year-old higher education administrator from Oldsmar, who preferred Clinton. "I really have not heard anybody saying what they're going to do with this mess we have."

Rebecca Montilla, a 22-year-old premed student at the University of South Florida, began questioning her Democratic allegiances when it struck her in the primary that Democrats were sounding reckless about yanking troops out of Iraq. Obama's inexperience worries her, but she comes from a lower-middle-class family in Orlando that is increasingly struggling to keep food on the table. McCain offers no reassurance.

"I go back and forth, like, every day,'' she said. "It just seems like a lot of bickering, and it's really difficult for me to see what McCain's going to do and what Obama's going to do."

Said Lehr: "I wish we could put them both back in the hat, shake it up, and start over and pick two new candidates."

Adam C. Smith can be reached at [email protected] or (727) 893-8241.

What they're saying about Palin

"The one thing that frightens me more than anything else are the ideologues. We've seen too many."

Donn Spegal, 80, St. Petersburg, Republican Air Force veteran

"I'm truly offended by Palin. You're somebody's mom and what are you going to do, say, 'Excuse me, country, hold on?' "

Philinia Lehr, 37, Largo, Republican full-time mother

"That was almost insulting. Do they think we're really stupid? ... I'm definitely leaning toward the Democratic side now. Sarah Palin scares ... me." "

Rhonda Laris, Temple Terrace, Democrat

"She is Dick Cheney with a dress on."

Bill Chever, 56, St. Petersburg, Independent Air Force veteran

Findog
09-21-2008, 04:34 PM
"I really wanted someone youthful and someone who could relate more to the future generations," said Republican Jim Soltis, 70, of Holiday, who is weighing his desire for expanded health insurance access with maintaining Bush's tax cuts.

Pick one dumbass, you don't get both.

Shastafarian
09-21-2008, 04:45 PM
Unless we find out she committed a felony, there is no way McCain drops her.

SnakeBoy
09-21-2008, 04:48 PM
Ummm...either thursday or friday I know that the McCain campaign handed out 17,000 tickets for an event. Yeah, he's gonna drop Palin.


Pick one dumbass, you don't get both.

:lmao You're arguing with a guy quoted in an article. He's not on this forum dumbass. You're losing it.

Shastafarian
09-21-2008, 04:49 PM
:lmao You're arguing with a guy quoted in an article. He's not on this forum dumbass. You're losing it.

Good lord these people are dumb. Look up the word "rhetorical"

SnakeBoy
09-21-2008, 04:51 PM
Good lord these people are dumb. Look up the word "rhetorical"

Nice. Now you can go back to yelling at the tv.

Shastafarian
09-21-2008, 04:55 PM
Nice. Now you can go back to yelling at the tv.

:lol They're full of comebacks too!!!

cool hand
09-21-2008, 04:57 PM
:lol

Scuttlebutt: Democrats still scared shitless of Palin. More at 10.


Scuttlebutt: Americans are caught up in the two party system so much, they can't see the forest becuase of all the trees. More at 11.

boutons_
09-21-2008, 05:15 PM
"Democrats still scared shitless of Palin"

Her approval ratings are down 24% from peak, and more disapprove of her than approve.

Palin was a flash-in-the-pan. But it would be election suicide for McSenile to flush her.

ChumpDumper
09-21-2008, 05:19 PM
It's not like anyone else is going to improve McCain's chances.

whottt
09-21-2008, 05:21 PM
Negative ads, Palin and the POW story are pretty much all McCain has to run on to get undecided voters.



:lol

ChumpDumper
09-21-2008, 05:23 PM
:lolThey got you with Palin. Thanks for proving me right once again.

Anti.Hero
09-21-2008, 05:24 PM
I have a reliable source saying he will replace her with Hillary.

Please do not press me for any further details.

whottt
09-21-2008, 05:26 PM
They got you with Palin. Thanks for proving me right once again.


:lmao was funny how you disappeared from the forum while McCain was up in the polls. Typical Chump.

ChumpDumper
09-21-2008, 05:28 PM
Isn't he still up in the polls?

Nice attempt at changing the subject though.

Typical hoot.

whottt
09-21-2008, 05:29 PM
:lmao @ acting like you don't know. You're a champ chump :tu

ChumpDumper
09-21-2008, 05:32 PM
I heard that some of the bounce was gone, but I thought he was still ahead. I don't have my personal reputation riding on a crush on Palin like you do.

whottt
09-21-2008, 05:34 PM
I heard that some of the bounce was gone, but I thought he was still ahead. I don't have my personal reputation riding on a crush on Palin like you do.


:lmao Old Faithful

ChumpDumper
09-21-2008, 05:37 PM
I think the race is McCain's to lose barring some acute worsening of the economic situation or something really dramatically bad happening in one of the war theaters.

Crookshanks
09-21-2008, 05:38 PM
This is real funny because I heard the other day that Obama is under pressure to dump Biden for Hillary. Some say he's going to wait until after the VP debate and then have Biden cite "health issues" that are forcing him to drop out.

Rumor - innuendo - falsehoods - lies: welcome to election 2008!

florige
09-21-2008, 07:34 PM
Whottt would shit a centerblock in McCain dumped his girl......:lol

Anti.Hero
09-21-2008, 07:35 PM
And many would rejoice if Palin dumped McCain and kept on running :lol

IceColdBrewski
09-21-2008, 08:20 PM
The "Obama to dump Biden" rumor has been making the rounds for a couple of weeks now. This is the first I've heard of any rumors of Palin being dumped.

If either candidate were to do it, I'd expect it to be Obama dumping Biden in favor of Hillary. Last I heard, Palin was still bringing in huge crowds. Would make zero sense to dump her now.

Biernutz
09-21-2008, 08:33 PM
I don't think McCain is going to dump Palin anytime soon!


Palin draws crowd of 60,000 in The Villages

By Bill Cotterell •
news-press.com capital bureau •
September 21, 2008

THE VILLAGES -- Republican vice presidential nominee Sarah Palin told wildly cheering, flag-waving, chanting supporters that John McCain is "the only great man in this race" and promised Sunday he will fix the nation's economy if voters give the GOP four more years in the White House.

"He won't say this, so I'll say it for him," the Alaska governor said in an almost confidential tone at the close of her first Florida stump speech. "There is only one man in this election who has ever really fought for you. John McCain wore the uniform of his country for 22 years -- talk about tough."

The Villages, a vast, upscale planned community north of Orlando, has about 70,000 mostly adult residents -- many of them military retirees -- who vote reliably Republican in statewide races. Tens of thousands inched along roads into the picturesque town square of the complex, where they stood in sweltering heat for about four hours as local GOP officials and a country band revved up the crowd

http://news-press.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080921/NEWS0107/80921022

whottt
09-21-2008, 08:41 PM
Why does Nbandan post deliberate lies?

Is he stupid, or dishonest?


I'm going with dishonest...that's my take.

whottt
09-21-2008, 08:46 PM
And many would rejoice if Palin dumped McCain and kept on running :lol



:lol no shit.


Dems haven't yet figured out that the hearbeat away thing is not a deterrent at all. :lmao


Bit of trivia...did you know that in every Presidential campaign where the "heartbeat away from the Presidency" threat or some variation of it, was aimed a ticket...the ticket it was aimed at ended up winning the election?

Every single time.

TheMadHatter
09-21-2008, 08:55 PM
I would like nothing more than Republicans around the nation to feel as if they have won this election.

Supergirl
09-21-2008, 09:39 PM
This is real funny because I heard the other day that Obama is under pressure to dump Biden for Hillary. Some say he's going to wait until after the VP debate and then have Biden cite "health issues" that are forcing him to drop out.

Rumor - innuendo - falsehoods - lies: welcome to election 2008!

Yahoo just posted an AP story about how Biden is quietly tearing it up in the midwest. Don't think he's going anywhere.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/politico/20080921/pl_politico/13596

boutons_
09-21-2008, 09:40 PM
pitbull bitch and McSenile appeared together last week.

Pitbull spoke first As McYawner started speaking, people started leaving. :lol

Aggie Hoopsfan
09-21-2008, 09:43 PM
I hate America and the Republican party and that's all I care about.

Shastafarian
09-21-2008, 09:44 PM
All I can do is change someone's quote

This device would work better if you were the only one capable of it.

SnakeBoy
09-21-2008, 10:23 PM
Dems haven't yet figured out that the hearbeat away thing is not a deterrent at all. :lmao


:lmao Now that was funny.

Viva Las Espuelas
09-21-2008, 11:26 PM
. Don't think he's going anywhere.
ol' joe should've had that brief before he met up with Chuck





God love ya!

cool hand
09-22-2008, 12:13 AM
I think the race is McCain's to lose barring some acute worsening of the economic situation or something really dramatically bad happening in one of the war theaters.

Obama 50% Mccain 44%

Americans lose-100%

PixelPusher
09-22-2008, 12:54 AM
Whottt would shit a centerblock in McCain dumped his girl......:lol

She'd be emotionally devastated...he could catch her on the rebound.

whottt
09-22-2008, 01:03 AM
She'd be emotionally devastated...he could catch her on the rebound.


Would be a horrible match...I'm anti-social and a definite type b personality. Tried it before...many many many many many....many many many times.

That doesn't mean I don't want to see a real person put in Washington though.

PixelPusher
09-22-2008, 01:14 AM
Rumor from some 'well-connected' Texas Republicans

There's your problem right there.



Even though it's now evident to everyone who isn't a horny/starstruck Republican that her farts don't smell like roses, there's still no way in hell McCain would ever dump her. Even if this troopergate shit actually went nuclear (i seriously doubt it), who could they bring in that would make up for the political damage done by letting her go?

Shastafarian
09-22-2008, 01:19 AM
There's your problem right there.



Even though it's now evident to everyone who isn't a horny/starstruck Republican that her farts don't smell like roses, there's still no way in hell McCain would ever dump her. Even if this troopergate shit actually went nuclear (i seriously doubt it), who could they bring in that would make up for the political damage done by letting her go?

Jesus? After all, according to so many republicans, he's on their side.

PixelPusher
09-22-2008, 01:26 AM
Jesus? After all, according to so many republicans, he's on their side.

Jesus would definitely solidify the social conservative base, but his past record of statements like "render unto caesar that which is caeser's" and "our battle is not against flesh and blood" would turn off the fiscal conservatives and the neocons.

whottt
09-22-2008, 01:31 AM
LOL why are you guys so pissed at the Republicans that you picked Joe Biden as your VP?

It's not their fault you didn't pick Hillary, or Wesley Clark...

You picked a lefty...that's not the change America was seeking.

Findog
09-22-2008, 09:32 AM
There's your problem right there.



Even though it's now evident to everyone who isn't a horny/starstruck Republican that her farts don't smell like roses, there's still no way in hell McCain would ever dump her. Even if this troopergate shit actually went nuclear (i seriously doubt it), who could they bring in that would make up for the political damage done by letting her go?

Romney might've been a better pick at the time because he could really help McCain make a run at flipping Michigan. But I'm guessing the knuckledraggers don't like him too much either because he's a Mormon and he didn't give birth to a tard baby in accordance with his pro-life beliefs, so he wouldn't excite the base nearly as much.