Clarification on Car issue

[Tully365]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/21/mccain-owns-13-cars-obama_n_128047.html

This site talks about the cars that McCain owns. While he does own quite a few, I think the reports have not been totally forthcoming in terms of the full truth. 3 cars are little bubble shaped electric golf-cart type vehicles, one is a vintage 1960 army jeep, and one is his daughter's Prius.

I find it difficult to believe that a power couple like the Obamas (or any married couple with one of its members being a member of congress) only have one car. I imagine that at least one other car is registered to Michelle Obama.

[Shastafarian]

I just don't understand why any of this matters. Are americans really this superficial?

[Tully365]

I just don't understand why any of this matters. Are americans really this superficial?

People are talking about it and I just wanted everyone to have the facts straight. I do think the issue has some limited relevance, in terms if temperament and lifestyle.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

I just don't understand why any of this matters. Are americans really this superficial?

Well, the general superficiality of the people in this country have gotten us into our current financial mess.... (bigger house, nicer car, big screen TV, iPod, etc.).

[Tully365]

Well, the general superficiality of the people in this country have gotten us into our current financial mess.... (bigger house, nicer car, big screen TV, iPod, etc.).

You and I don't agree on a lot, but I'm with you on this opinion.

[ElNono]

When people vote a candidate because of how he/she looks (and I know more than one case of that), you can bet superficiality has a value.

[ploto]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/21/mccain-owns-13-cars-obama_n_128047.html

This site talks about the cars that McCain owns. While he does own quite a few, I think the reports have not been totally forthcoming in terms of the full truth. 3 cars are little bubble shaped electric golf-cart type vehicles, one is a vintage 1960 army jeep, and one is his daughter's Prius.

I find it difficult to believe that a power couple like the Obamas (or any married couple with one of its members being a member of congress) only have one car. I imagine that at least one other car is registered to Michelle Obama.

His daughter's Prius is actually the one that started all the talk. The article from Newsweek that I read listed them, including what you have there about the electric cars. And they did check records for all of them.

[ploto]

I just don't understand why any of this matters. Are americans really this superficial?

The interest is because McCain claimed to Michigan auto workers that he only buys American cars, and records showed this not to be true. It has nothing to do with lifestyle, etc, but with checking the truth of a candidate's statement.

[Shastafarian]

The interest is because McCain claimed to Michigan auto workers that he only buys American cars, and records showed this not to be true. It has nothing to do with lifestyle, etc, but with checking the truth of a candidate's statement.

I figured by now people would have lost count of all of the McCain campaign's lies.

[Cry Havoc]

I just don't understand why any of this matters. Are americans really this superficial?

Well, when one candidate has $13,000,000 worth of housing property and deigns to call the other candidate an "elitist" it tends to make people wonder about any number of things.

[Tully365]

I saw another video tonight where McCain is asked why he didn't buy his daughter an American hybrid car and he answered: "Actually, uh, she bought it, uh, I believe, herself."

It's true that none of this is of the highest political importance, but I think he'd look more truthful if he just said that his wife handles that stuff and he doesn't have time for it. In all likelihood, he was away in Washington or on the campaign trail when she decided on it and probably had little to do with it. Honestly, how many girls that age are going to take their elderly father's advice on something like that? My best friend just went through this same situation with his 17 year old daughter and there were actual tears involved because he wouldn't spend as much as she wanted him to.

But the thing that bothers me is that McCain seems unnecessarily shifty and not exactly forthcoming on an issue as minor as this... it doesn't give me confidence that he would be any easier to believe in more pressure packed situations. Like with the "how many houses" question: instead of just saying that his wife and her LLC (or whatever she has for that stuff) manage the investment properties, he tries to look authoritative about it and just winds up looking confused and out of touch.

[101A]

I saw another video tonight where McCain is asked why he didn't buy his daughter an American hybrid car and he answered: "Actually, uh, she bought it, uh, I believe, herself."

It's true that none of this is of the highest political importance, but I think he'd look more truthful if he just said that his wife handles that stuff and he doesn't have time for it. In all likelihood, he was away in Washington or on the campaign trail when she decided on it and probably had little to do with it. Honestly, how many girls that age are going to take their elderly father's advice on something like that? My best friend just went through this same situation with his 17 year old daughter and there were actual tears involved because he wouldn't spend as much as she wanted him to.

But the thing that bothers me is that McCain seems unnecessarily shifty and not exactly forthcoming on an issue as minor as this... it doesn't give me confidence that he would be any easier to believe in more pressure packed situations. Like with the "how many houses" question: instead of just saying that his wife and her LLC (or whatever she has for that stuff) manage the investment properties, he tries to look authoritative about it and just winds up looking confused and out of touch.


The right answer would have been "Because U.S. automakers don't build a competitor to the Prius".

With Michigan being such an important state; you're not ALLOWED to say that. Obama got the ONLY vehicle that gives him green cred AND coverage in MI; the Escape Hybrid. What a coincidence.

This is ridiculous.

[Oh, Gee!!]

Obama got the ONLY vehicle that gives him green cred AND coverage in MI; the Escape Hybrid. What a coincidence.

This is ridiculous.

no, they're nice cars. thinking 'bout getting one myself.