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Bigzax
09-23-2008, 09:02 AM
http://wai.redskins.com/redskinsFile/game/images/19051.jpg


well...i was gonna say I'm pretty sure Washington covers the spread and hopefully wins too...especially considering that Dallas looked good and beat two of the better teams on national television, on top of the fact that our DE J Taylor is out...as i am an avid believer in the National Fixed League...

BUT...the spread is 11 1/2 !!!

that's too many damn points...


i fear the worst now...:depressed



ANYHOW...do most of you Cowboys fans feel that Dallas will not only beat the Skins, but by more than the spread? Just Curious...thanks!



:wakeup

Obstructed_View
09-23-2008, 09:09 AM
I've been around long enough to know that the Redskins and Cowboys always defy the predictions and the betting lines, no matter how good or how bad either team is. The Cowboys have looked pretty good so far, but I wouldn't be shocked to see the Cowboys go out and lose by 24 because neither team intimidates each other. There just isn't any way to know what's going to happen.

TMSKILZ
09-23-2008, 09:19 AM
Should be a good game, NFC East games are usually very tough, once in a while there will be a blowout.

DAL is the better team & so logic says they win, but the beauty about the NFL unlike the other sports is that you only play a game, not a series, so anything can happen in that one game.

Go Boyz!

DBryant88
09-23-2008, 09:37 AM
dallas 42 Skins 13

K-State Spur
09-23-2008, 12:21 PM
if the Skins score 31 points, I like their chances. Because if they score that many, they'll likely do so by running the ball and controlling the clock.

they actually played pretty well last year in Dallas. but got burned by TO deep 3 times - that was their first game without Sean Taylor, and Reed Doughty (who would eventually play solid, if unspectacular football) got torched in his first start.

the jason taylor injury may not hurt as bad as it would against some other teams. with him and carter starting, the team has been a bit weak against the run. demetric evans is much more stout at the point of attack, and gives them a better shot at slowing down Barber. On the other hand, he's almost no threat to get to Romo, but that's the trade-off.

fitzgerald
09-23-2008, 12:28 PM
Not this time Washington. We are much improved and are at home. No Roy Williams so no more easy points. I say 31-13 dallas.

Trainwreck2100
09-23-2008, 01:43 PM
They'll cover that easily

K-State Spur
09-23-2008, 04:05 PM
Not this time Washington. We are much improved and are at home. No Roy Williams so no more easy points. I say 31-13 dallas.

eh, but you still got a QB - as damn good as he is - who is capable of giving the other team the ball 4 times in a given week.

the cowboys are clearly the class of the league right now, but they are far from unbeatable. Philly - who I'm not completely sold on - made a lot of mistakes in that Monday game and still had an excellent opportunity to walk out of Dallas with the win. (Not to insinuate the Cowboys played flawlessly, only that they are definitely beatable in a given week.)

Obstructed_View
09-23-2008, 05:14 PM
if the Skins score 31 points, I like their chances. Because if they score that many, they'll likely do so by running the ball and controlling the clock.

Maybe, but it's also possible that if the Redskins score 31 it's because they were down 42-10 and started throwing the ball to try to catch up and started drawing lots of PI calls. I'm not sure about Dallas' secondary, but it'll take a heck of an effort to run on them. What's hurt them this year seems to be the short pass. What works for the Redskins against them is the long pass.

samikeyp
09-23-2008, 07:00 PM
That spread is way too high. I see more of a 28-24 Dallas game.

ducks
09-23-2008, 07:01 PM
12 points is a big spread due to the rivally

I would love dallas to lose but I would be suprised if they lost

Flight3107
09-23-2008, 07:30 PM
12 is too low, it should be around 19 or 20

BUMP
09-23-2008, 07:33 PM
Dallas will never blow out the Redskins. ever. no matter how good we are or how bad they are.

not only are they our rival, but they are a bitch to play due to their ball control, and conservative offense. they are always in games except for the Patriots game last year where they got completely torn the fuck apart

Bigzax
09-23-2008, 07:40 PM
shit...


just peeked at the schedule and Dallas has cinci, zona and st louis coming up after this one...all patsies...

one of those will upset dallas...or at least make you guys sweat til late in the game...i'd put money on st louis to cover the spread right now...

but back to this sunday's game...

unfortunately, i think the skins will have to wait til november after your bye week to lay the wood...


i think this one goes 27-13 dallas...:wakeup

Flight3107
09-23-2008, 07:45 PM
Shit, I remember Quincy Carter and Troy Mother Fucking Hambrick blowing out the Redskins.

alltimerusherE.Smith
09-23-2008, 07:48 PM
ii p-p-pick the D-D-Dallas Cowboys to blow out the Wushington Redskins in dramatic fashion.

GO COWBOYS! i mean, should be a great game

Whisky Dog
09-23-2008, 08:28 PM
Since it's early in the season I have no doubt the Cowboys win. Too good against the run and Washington doesnt have enough through the air yet to challenge a much improved secondary. I'm waiting to see if this can be the 1st Cowboys team to stay stout after Thanksgiving, but for now they'll roll.

samikeyp
09-23-2008, 08:54 PM
ii p-p-pick the D-D-Dallas Cowboys to blow out the Wushington Redskins in dramatic fashion.

GO COWBOYS! i mean, should be a great game

:lmao

As much as I love Emmitt...dude does not belong in TV. Another example of ESPN hiring a former star who finds new reasons why his old team will win the game. :lol

Obstructed_View
09-24-2008, 01:47 AM
Since it's early in the season I have no doubt the Cowboys win. Too good against the run and Washington doesnt have enough through the air yet to challenge a much improved secondary. I'm waiting to see if this can be the 1st Cowboys team to stay stout after Thanksgiving, but for now they'll roll.

I've yet to see any signs of improvement in the secondary. They are getting cut up and I don't think they've gotten an interception yet. If Braylon Edwards could catch a pass Derek Anderson would have had good numbers against them.

Spurtacus
09-24-2008, 01:50 AM
Shit, I remember Quincy Carter and Troy Mother Fucking Hambrick blowing out the Redskins.

:lol

Whisky Dog
09-24-2008, 08:09 AM
I've yet to see any signs of improvement in the secondary. They are getting cut up and I don't think they've gotten an interception yet. If Braylon Edwards could catch a pass Derek Anderson would have had good numbers against them.

Don't know what games you've been watching. They had one lapse against Cleveland, one lapse against the Eagles on the Jackson catch, and one lapse against the Packers where Hamlin forgot his deep responsibilities on the cover 2 allowing Driver to get the only big play of the game for GB. This from a secondary that has utilized two rookies, a rusty Pacman, and a rusty and recovering Newman. They've been damn solid and had a great game against the Packers.

You have to understand their coverage schemes. They aren't a bump and run, press and jam secondary. They don't have the personnel to do that, so their defensive schemes are going to be to play off the receivers and cover. They're going to play you to have to take the short passes and have to sustain long drives. So far they have been getting better each game and turned in a nearly masterful performance against the Packers (Rodgers had almost nothing through the air until the game was sealed at 27-9 and the Cowboys went prevent) after a nearly flawless second half against the Eagles. The Cowboys had 4 sacks on McNabb and 5 on Rodgers, and most of those were coverage sacks. The secondary is night and day better at this point than last season, and with Pacman and Newman losing rust by the game while the rookies get much needed experience there is no reason to think they won't improve game to game.

K-State Spur
09-24-2008, 09:20 AM
Don't know what games you've been watching. They had one lapse against Cleveland, one lapse against the Eagles on the Jackson catch, and one lapse against the Packers where Hamlin forgot his deep responsibilities on the cover 2 allowing Driver to get the only big play of the game for GB. This from a secondary that has utilized two rookies, a rusty Pacman, and a rusty and recovering Newman. They've been damn solid and had a great game against the Packers.


Well, if we're allowed to take away 1 lapse per game, then Washington might have the best secondary in the entire league.

Whisky Dog
09-24-2008, 09:25 AM
Well, if we're allowed to take away 1 lapse per game, then Washington might have the best secondary in the entire league.

I was referencing the secondary being much improved over last year's, which had many lapses per game. I still have images of Reeves, Nate Jones, and Roy Williams being burned. They still have room for improvement, but since the start of the second half of the Philly game they have been lights out against two very good offenses who torched other teams.

I don't know much about Washington's secondary, but we'll find out how good they are on Sunday.

K-State Spur
09-24-2008, 11:20 AM
they held boldin/fitzgerald in check most of the day on sunday - save for a long TD pass to Fitzgerald. Boldin had a TD as well, but it came when AZ spread the field at the goal line.

from a coverage perspective, washington has got quality depth at corner and the best safety in the division in laron landry (now that brian dawkins is finally experiencing a drop-off). the question is always at the other safety spot. doughty is solid, but not a great athlete (by NFL safety standards) and horton is a great athlete, but very raw.

it would be flat out scary how good that safety tandem could have become if not for Taylor's untimely demise.

Obstructed_View
09-24-2008, 11:55 AM
Don't know what games you've been watching.

Me neither, because I've been watching them give up short passes all the way down the field until they get inside the red zone where they hold teams to field goals because the run defense is so good and the secondary doesn't have to worry about getting beat deep. I know they've improved from last year, but that ain't saying much, and I don't think they have a single interception. How many has Derek Anderson thrown against teams not called the Dallas Cowboys?

I also have a hard time with your suggestion that those were coverage sacks when a cornerback got two of them in the Green Bay game. The defensive line is wearing the other team down, and the secondary's playing bend but don't break with some successful blitzes toward the end of the game. It's working so far but it isn't going to last if they don't improve.

Whisky Dog
09-24-2008, 12:10 PM
That's their strategy to give up short passes down the field and make teams string together long drives with a lot of successful plays, banking on the defense getting negative plays here and there to stop drives. This just isn't a matchup bump and run, blitz heavy defense that's going to either shut you down or get toasted like the Eagles. It's designed to stop the run and make you throw short.

I also dont think the D is going to get many interceptions simply because the corners are better coverage guys than opportunistic ball hogs. Pac and Newman have no history of racking up interceptions, Henry had one good stretch last year and that's it, and we dont know about Jenkins or Scandrick yet. Also, none of the safeties have a history of being big interception guys. That's just the design of this defense and the way it beat Rodgers on Sunday is going to be the way it beats people all year if it is to be successful.

Whisky Dog
09-24-2008, 12:16 PM
Also, the sacks Henry got came off of what the Cowboys call their "Cowboy" defense, which is a nickel except the 4th corner comes in for a safety (Roy or now Watkins) instead of a LB. That allows 4 LBs to remain on the field to stay stout against the run while having an extra corner in Henry to rush the QB if desired while still keeping 3 CBs and Hamlin to cover. On both sacks the coverage took away any routes long enough to allow Henry to get to Rodgers on a wide corner rush. Definitely stuff they couldnt do last year due to weak corner depth.

Obstructed_View
09-24-2008, 12:18 PM
I think they've been lucky so far, as some of the secondary guys look so bad that it's amazing they're on a professional team. So far it's working though, and the Cowboys defense hasn't worn down despite being on the field a long time. The offense's decision to run down the throat of the Packers was probably deliberate to keep the defense off the field. Again, time will tell if it holds. I'm not impressed, particularly considering how hyped the secondary was before the season.

Whisky Dog
09-24-2008, 01:08 PM
The offense ran down the throat of the Packers because the Packers were playing a lot of nickel and on times they didn't they were using their safeties and usually one LB in coverage blanketing TO and Witten. It shows the maturity of Garrett as a play caller to recognize this and run the ball against a defensive front looking to stop the pass. Those draws, misdirection runs, and delayed hand offs were a thing of beauty keeping the safeties back and allowing the line to tear open the front seven and sometimes six. Garrett's coming into his own now that he's had a year to get acquainted with his fancy toy.

DBryant88
09-24-2008, 01:37 PM
that and the tandem of barber and Felix Jones is one of the best in the NFL

tonylongoriafan
09-24-2008, 02:53 PM
as long as they play well and cut down on the turnovers, i'll be okay with it because i'm going and will be too drunk to really understand anything else :toast

StylisticS
09-24-2008, 07:14 PM
Dallas will never blow out the Redskins. ever. no matter how good we are or how bad they are.



While blowouts in rivalry games are rare. They do happen. Washington beat Dallas 35-7 in 2005. Dallas beat Washington 27-0 in 2003 at Washington. Dallas beat Washington 38-3 in 1994. It happens. But remember, it is rare.

Washington has a chance if they control the ball. If the offense does not help out the defense and Dallas plays to it's full potential for the first time thsi season. You could see a blowout in Dallas favor. I don't expect that though. Dallas oline is better than Washington dline and Dallas dline is better than Washington oline. If the lines dominate....again, you could see a blow out.

Whisky Dog
09-24-2008, 10:18 PM
I remember being at that 38-3 game in 1994. One of the few live NFL games I've ever gone to.

BUMP
09-24-2008, 10:24 PM
While blowouts in rivalry games are rare. They do happen. Washington beat Dallas 35-7 in 2005. Dallas beat Washington 27-0 in 2003 at Washington. Dallas beat Washington 38-3 in 1994. It happens. But remember, it is rare.


yeah i guess i exaggerated a little bit when i said ever, that 2005 game was proby the worst Cowboy game ive had to sit through in recent memory. we were so pumped up to overtake them, give them revenge, and be in the driver seat as the wildcard team..............then we get raped

slayermin
09-25-2008, 02:42 AM
Cowboys looked impressive against Green Bay. DeMarcus Ware is a beast in obvious passing situations. Redskins will need to stay somewhat balanced to keep the Cowboy defense guessing. They are passing much more in Zorn's westcoast offense, so you can expect Washington to throw it early and often. And if the Cowboy secondary doesn't press, I like the Skins chances in the passing game. Moss can use his speed to get to open spots in the second level of their defense. But that's if they don't press and bump. I would be surprised if the Cowboys let Moss and Randel El run free off the line.

The one thing Jason Campbell is getting better at are his reads. Against the Giants, it seemed like he was holding the ball too long and paying the price. Now, it seems like he's more in rhythm in the quick passing game. And if he can complete a high percentage and keep the chains moving, the Skins have a chance. He's not McNabb but he is playing well.

As for the Skins defense against Romo and Company, they have their hands full. Their offense is so balanced, it's difficult to take away things. They have too many playmakers on that side of the ball. The Redskins should blitz every down from every spot on the field because they are going to give up points anyway. Be aggressive and force the issue. If they play that bend and don't break defense, counting on their secondary to cover, that's a slow death, imo. Without Jason Taylor, you need to manufacture pressure somehow.

And if the Redskins really want a chance to steal this game, they need to make some plays on special teams. But you can say that about any of the games on Sunday so you really can't count on it.

I don't think it's going to be a blowout. I just hope Washington is in striking distance in the 4th quarter. This game is going to be physical like they usually are between these two teams. It will be fun to watch and I can't wait.

bigdog
09-25-2008, 02:50 AM
I'm going to the game Sunday!!!

Anywho, I expect a close game throughout, with Dallas pulling ahead late 3rd/early 4th.

If Dallas can defend the run the way they have been doing so far, they will win.
The only real threat in the passing game is probably Santana Moss, who seems to be doing the best in this West Coast offense. I think we can handle Cooley, Randle El, and if they don't sleep on Devin Thomas, we should be fine.

But like I said, stop the run, and they will be fine.




Also, not to mention, if there is any pressure on Campbell whatsoever, we will win.

K-State Spur
09-25-2008, 10:56 AM
I'm going to the game Sunday!!!

Anywho, I expect a close game throughout, with Dallas pulling ahead late 3rd/early 4th.

If Dallas can defend the run the way they have been doing so far, they will win.
The only real threat in the passing game is probably Santana Moss, who seems to be doing the best in this West Coast offense. I think we can handle Cooley, Randle El, and if they don't sleep on Devin Thomas, we should be fine.

But like I said, stop the run, and they will be fine.




Also, not to mention, if there is any pressure on Campbell whatsoever, we will win.

Good point on Thomas. He showed some flashes last week now that he is finally healthy. Not the least of which was breaking loose for a 70 yard TD that was called back on a penalty that didn't affect the play at all.

Bigzax
09-25-2008, 11:41 AM
i see a 7 point game pushed to 14 late in the 4th...



but fuck that...Go Skins, bring the pain!!!

http://home.comcast.net/~ric730/dallassucks.gif

Bigzax
09-25-2008, 12:42 PM
http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/deadspin/2008/09/romoplate01.jpg

samikeyp
09-25-2008, 03:02 PM
ok, the "F Romo" plate is pretty funny.

fitzgerald
09-26-2008, 10:07 AM
The only thing Washington has going for them is that cheerleader. Damn she is fine. As for the team, no problem for the Cowboys.

Evan
09-26-2008, 11:57 AM
I love how much the Cowboys bother redskin fans...absolutely love it so much

DBryant88
09-26-2008, 01:00 PM
I love how much the Cowboys bother redskin fans...absolutely love it so much

I is rather amusing,i hope that the skins get blown out after last season when the beat us in the final game it was rather embarrasing

K-State Spur
09-26-2008, 09:50 PM
I love how much the Cowboys bother redskin fans...absolutely love it so much

Of course we don't like the Cowboys, it's a rivalry - one of the best in all of Sport. We also don't like the Eagles or the Giants. (Although, I think there is a greater respect from the Redskin nation for the Giants & the Cowboys, the Eagles fans just make it hard for us to wish them any good fortune whatsoever.)

You have to spend very little time on any Cowboy message board to notice that there is very little love going the either way too.

Evan
09-26-2008, 09:54 PM
Of course we don't like the Cowboys, it's a rivalry - one of the best in all of Sport. We also don't like the Eagles or the Giants. (Although, I think there is a greater respect from the Redskin nation for the Giants & the Cowboys, the Eagles fans just make it hard for us to wish them any good fortune whatsoever.)

You have to spend very little time on any Cowboy message board to notice that there is very little love going the either way too.

I'm pretty aware of that but there are more fans obsessed with the Cowboys than their own team by than anyone else in the league...especially the Redskins and Eagles.

I mean to get a license plate to attack Romo? Beautiful...as a Cowboy I drink it in and love the rivalry that much more.

K-State Spur
09-26-2008, 10:06 PM
I'm pretty aware of that but there are more fans obsessed with the Cowboys than their own team by than anyone else in the league...especially the Redskins and Eagles.

I mean to get a license plate to attack Romo? Beautiful...as a Cowboy I drink it in and love the rivalry that much more.

Yes, that person is a bit overboard. But I once saw a license plate in San Antonio that said 'SkinH8r' - I'm guessing that person wasn't referring to their epidermis.

Why is it that - in every rivalry - both groups try to convince themselves that they don't care as much as the other side?

This is the best match-up in the NFL - both groups should embrace getting to be a part of it.

samikeyp
09-26-2008, 10:54 PM
Of course we don't like the Cowboys, it's a rivalry - one of the best in all of Sport. We also don't like the Eagles or the Giants. (Although, I think there is a greater respect from the Redskin nation for the Giants & the Cowboys, the Eagles fans just make it hard for us to wish them any good fortune whatsoever.)

I would agree and I think there is more respect for the Redskins and Giants from Cowboys Fans than for the Eagles. When Tom Landry died there were tributes from NY and Washington. Philly is known best for booing Santa Claus and cheering possibly paralyzed opposing players.

samikeyp
09-26-2008, 10:55 PM
This is the best match-up in the NFL - both groups should embrace getting to be a part of it.

Agreed.

Bigzax
09-27-2008, 01:01 AM
I'm pretty aware of that but there are more fans obsessed with the Cowboys than their own team by than anyone else in the league...especially the Redskins and Eagles.



you do have a point, i gets that shit eating grin on my face when dallas loses...but then again, i'm in the middle of bandwagon cowboy fan central...aka San Antonio...:wakeup

Bigzax
09-27-2008, 02:34 AM
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Bigzax
09-27-2008, 02:52 AM
lookalikes-:lol

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Obstructed_View
09-27-2008, 10:45 AM
:lol

Evan
09-27-2008, 11:54 AM
http://kenalbert.com/archives/dallas_cowboys_5_champs.jpg


And yes...its been awhile since the Cowboys have won a playoff game 4291 days to be exact but I will trade that every time for those trophies.

T Park
09-27-2008, 12:05 PM
Cowboys are gonna win this one not totally easily but handily.

By 2 touchdowns at the least IMO.

The Redskins had trouble with the Cardinals who are a couple steps down from the Cowboys offensively, and obviously the Cowboys defense is better than the defense of the dudnals, so we shall see.

K-State Spur
09-27-2008, 10:36 PM
it could be noted that if you look very closely underneath barber's helmet - there's a sticker that says 'property of the washington redskins.'

last year, barber vs. the skins: 21 carries for 37 yards.

if they can keep him under his averages again tomorrow, they'll be in the game (and I don't mean 'within 2 TDs' in the game).

Evan
09-27-2008, 10:57 PM
it could be noted that if you look very closely underneath barber's helmet - there's a sticker that says 'property of the washington redskins.'

last year, barber vs. the skins: 21 carries for 37 yards.

if they can keep him under his averages again tomorrow, they'll be in the game (and I don't mean 'within 2 TDs' in the game).

Thats cool...I want to see Felix get more carries. :lol

But seriously...This game has Witten, Jones and Barber Vs Cooley and Portis written all over it.

And I am not kidding...I really feel better that Roy Williams is not playing. I'm sure Cooley does not feel the same. So glad this will be his last year (cap friendly contract cut after this season)

K-State Spur
09-28-2008, 01:06 AM
Thats cool...I want to see Felix get more carries. :lol

But seriously...This game has Witten, Jones and Barber Vs Cooley and Portis written all over it.

And I am not kidding...I really feel better that Roy Williams is not playing. I'm sure Cooley does not feel the same. So glad this will be his last year (cap friendly contract cut after this season)

I don't see Portis having a big game. He just needs to keep hacking away with 3 yards and a cloud of dust each carry.

For the Skins to be a threat, Campbell is going to have to make some plays downfield with Cooley and Moss. Santana has had some of his best games as a Skin against Dallas - as a Redskin at Texas Stadium: 3 games, 18 receptions, 349 yards, 3 TD.

Hopefully it will be a lot of fun. Unfortunately, the team has been known to lay an egg in some of these early season games, then sneak in the backdoor at the end while everyone is sleeping on them. (there's a couple of puns built in there, but it's too late in the evening for me to care...)

Bigzax
09-28-2008, 01:20 AM
yeah our run game has been pretty bad these days...

and i can admit that dallas in the trenches>skins on paper...

that is where the games are won/lost after all...


and FUCK if i don't miss 21 back there layin the wood and making TO cry lika beyatch...


we will need laron to bring the pain to win.

jessica in attendance wouldn't hurt either...

Bigzax
09-28-2008, 01:28 AM
is it 3 o fuckin clock yet...

http://assets.espn.go.com/photo/2008/0926/nfl_vwt2.jpg

K-State Spur
09-28-2008, 01:33 AM
and FUCK if i don't miss 21 back there layin the wood and making TO cry lika beyatch...

we will need laron to bring the pain to win.


the only times I've ever seen TO get alligator arms involved Taylor roaming the middle in his vicinity.

laron's a big hitter, but he's just not the physical specimen that Taylor was. Taylor would have never gotten trucked over like Landry did by Brandon Jacobs - and I'm not sure Jacobs would have even tried to do it to #21. Landry's just not as physically imposing as the guy who had the speed of a corner, but the size of a linebacker.

On the other hand, Landry is much smarter than Taylor was at this age - he's rarely out of position and he knows when to go for the big hit vs. just making the tackle.

Amazingly, the Redskins lost the best safety in the division and replaced him with...the best safety in the division. But man, it would have been amazing to watch them both out there for the next 5-10 years. No matter what highs or lows the team hits over the next decade, there will certainly be a large 'what might have been' factor regarding ST.

MannyIsGod
09-28-2008, 03:02 AM
Its on bitches. Skins by 84

Flight3107
09-28-2008, 03:39 AM
Amazingly, the Redskins lost the best safety in the division and replaced him with...the best safety in the division.

LMAO best safety in the division?


Brian Dawkins called, he said stop being such a fucking homer.

JustSpurs
09-28-2008, 08:37 AM
Dallas will never blow out the Redskins. ever. no matter how good we are or how bad they are.

not only are they our rival, but they are a bitch to play due to their ball control, and conservative offense. they are always in games except for the Patriots game last year where they got completely torn the fuck apart

Seems to me back in '93 Dallas blew out the Foreskins 38-3.

Still will miss Crazy Ray though.

K-State Spur
09-28-2008, 10:19 AM
LMAO best safety in the division?


Brian Dawkins called, he said stop being such a fucking homer.

actually, i would have agreed with you COMPLETELY before the season. but dawkins is clearly a step slower this year. he's 35, it was bound to happen at some point. nonetheless - he's still a very competent player that has to be accounted for out there. but landry is playing better football right now.

and there's no doubt that taylor was the best safety in the division last year before his death. outside of maybe bob sanders, he was probably the best safety in football. because he was such a big hitter, people don't seem to realize how good in coverage taylor was.

DannyT
09-28-2008, 03:04 PM
can someone give me an online link to watch the game...actually can i get a few in case of them are blocked at work

Whisky Dog
09-28-2008, 03:15 PM
Cowboys game plan very similar as last week. Be able to run Barber and Felix against 7 man fronts and force skins to bring Landry up leaving either TO or Witten in single coverage with no help. Then burn them.

Defense needs to control run with front 7 leaving 2 deep on Moss and Cooley.

Dominate in special teams, especially against one of leagues weakest punt coverage teams.

Get the win.

Evan
09-28-2008, 03:23 PM
One thing I won't miss about Texas stadium is the afternoon game shadows

Burn a time out early and follow up with offsides...great way to start Washington

Anti.Hero
09-28-2008, 03:40 PM
Insert "this is not the 1830s, Ware needs to quit abusing the Redskins" joke.

Whisky Dog
09-28-2008, 03:52 PM
I like the skins defensive strategy to start, play physical bump and a lot of hold off the ball on TO and Witten, but Garrett adjusted with some motion and got Witten one on one with the LB. See how skins try to counter because they've been adjusted to and exploited.

MannyIsGod
09-28-2008, 04:03 PM
Man that drive was excellent.

DannyT
09-28-2008, 04:05 PM
blaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah

Whisky Dog
09-28-2008, 04:13 PM
Offensive line needs a better push on run blocking, they've been subpar so far. Stout defense up front by skins. Impressive.

MannyIsGod
09-28-2008, 04:15 PM
Great conversion.

MannyIsGod
09-28-2008, 04:18 PM
Campbell was fucking AWESOME on those 2 3rd down plays on this drive. AWESOME.

Evan
09-28-2008, 04:21 PM
I have never been able to figure Jason out...he hasn't had a shot with so many changes.

MannyIsGod
09-28-2008, 04:26 PM
Dallas may want to cover Moss. Maybe.

dirk4mvp
09-28-2008, 04:26 PM
:lol Campbell is a stud

leemajors
09-28-2008, 04:38 PM
Newman is getting worked

timvp
09-28-2008, 04:38 PM
I didn't know the playoffs had started already.

MannyIsGod
09-28-2008, 04:39 PM
I didn't know the playoffs had started already.

:lol

DannyT
09-28-2008, 04:45 PM
down a touch and we get the ball back to start the second half....need to make something happen, and get the fucking run game going in some way shape or form...

DannyT
09-28-2008, 04:46 PM
I didn't know the playoffs had started already.

theres a lot of shit of you dont know but we wont get into all that

Whisky Dog
09-28-2008, 04:48 PM
Big time FG before the half after the goal line stand. Should be a 14 pt hole.

DannyT
09-28-2008, 04:49 PM
so much for LT running wild on the Raiders...they are give SD the Bidness

Johnny_Blaze_47
09-28-2008, 04:50 PM
Good to see the Cowboys be able to move the ball right before the half... just like they did in the Eagles MNF game.

Evan
09-28-2008, 04:52 PM
Why is the FOX HD feed always so bad?

DannyT
09-28-2008, 04:54 PM
if it under time warner thats your answer...

DannyT
09-28-2008, 04:55 PM
does anyone have and audio or video link other than NFL.com for the game

Evan
09-28-2008, 04:57 PM
Pam Oliver is hideous....

Evan
09-28-2008, 04:57 PM
if it under time warner thats your answer...

DirecTV

Johnny_Blaze_47
09-28-2008, 05:02 PM
Touchdown, Cowboys. Nice.

DannyT
09-28-2008, 05:02 PM
just what I wanted to see or read

Johnny_Blaze_47
09-28-2008, 05:04 PM
Do you have a Sprint phone? The new NFL Network feature is GREAT and has audio feeds for all the teams.

DannyT
09-28-2008, 05:04 PM
any funk TO celebration?

SAtown
09-28-2008, 05:07 PM
does anyone have and audio or video link other than NFL.com for the game

Check your PM

DannyT
09-28-2008, 05:08 PM
nah I got the Iphizzle but I work in a location on base where we leave the phones in the cars....I know huh?

Johnny_Blaze_47
09-28-2008, 05:09 PM
Damn, the Cowboys defense has just been a sieve today, but credit the Redskins, too, they've been owning the line of scrimmage since late in the first.

timvp
09-28-2008, 05:09 PM
theres a lot of shit of you dont know but we wont get into all that

Johnny_Blaze_47
09-28-2008, 05:12 PM
Damn, that was a great play all-around.

DannyT
09-28-2008, 05:12 PM
mmmmmm mmmmmmm mmmmmmmm

Johnny_Blaze_47
09-28-2008, 05:12 PM
Damn, that was a great play all-around.

OH!

DannyT
09-28-2008, 05:12 PM
dont start blaming the refs manny

DannyT
09-28-2008, 05:13 PM
what did he said?

Johnny_Blaze_47
09-28-2008, 05:14 PM
Cowboys got lucky twice, but that's what happens when you have this guy on your O-line.

http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/thumb/f/f1/200px-Seagal_under_siege.jpg

MannyIsGod
09-28-2008, 05:16 PM
dont start blaming the refs manny

:lmao

I'm gonna fucking blame Rabach. That play was so fucking awesome by Campbell and Randel El and it was just fucking blown by his stupid ass.

Man, that play was fucking GOLD just to have it wiped out. Nevermind his stupid fucking hold.

IronMexican
09-28-2008, 05:24 PM
I am going to vent in here. The fucking Raiders do it again. This is unbelievable.:depressed

DannyT
09-28-2008, 05:25 PM
i was just gonna check that score....they still shuting down LT?

Whisky Dog
09-28-2008, 05:26 PM
Redskins DBs getting away with a lot of holding. Cowboys have to play through it and need to run the ball. Garrett forgot he has the best RB combo in football.

IronMexican
09-28-2008, 05:26 PM
The D is too tired. Offense has had the ball for like 2 minutes this half.

DannyT
09-28-2008, 05:29 PM
Redskins DBs getting away with a lot of holding. Cowboys have to play through it and need to run the ball. Garrett forgot he has the best RB combo in football.

where the fuck is felix jones....why has he not had more carrys


portis is on on way to ballin....

DannyT
09-28-2008, 05:33 PM
good stops...now thurn this shit around and get in front....

MannyIsGod
09-28-2008, 05:34 PM
These plays where you get away from a rush and get a short pass that turns into 8 yards are killer.

DannyT
09-28-2008, 05:36 PM
cause they set up a bomb down field....it hasnt happened yet but its brewing...

Johnny_Blaze_47
09-28-2008, 05:37 PM
Go after the secondary!!

DannyT
09-28-2008, 05:37 PM
PC is having a nice game...glad he put that pop corn down and started catching balls

Johnny_Blaze_47
09-28-2008, 05:39 PM
Son of a bitch.

DannyT
09-28-2008, 05:41 PM
guess it has to be the defense thats gonna step up...cause the BIG O is not running the ball like we need to but fuck we need to stop getting burned by Portis and J Campbell

Whisky Dog
09-28-2008, 05:41 PM
I had a feeling that was coming. Romo had been good today but that might cost the game. Defense needs a turnover or hold big time right now.

Whisky Dog
09-28-2008, 05:43 PM
Difference in the game has been skins being able to run well while Boys not being able to run on front 7.

MannyIsGod
09-28-2008, 05:44 PM
Big time 3rd down conversion today. Campbell has been really good on 3rd downs today. Really really good.

DannyT
09-28-2008, 05:46 PM
I should have started his ass today

Johnny_Blaze_47
09-28-2008, 05:47 PM
Good hold.

MannyIsGod
09-28-2008, 05:47 PM
OH man my heart dropped when I saw that ball pop up. Moss should have caught that pass either way.

DannyT
09-28-2008, 05:48 PM
come on fuckers we need to score a td now....stop bullshittin

Evan
09-28-2008, 05:49 PM
Cowboys 2008 defense seems to be bend but don't break so far

IronMexican
09-28-2008, 05:50 PM
Raiders tie! Skins only got a FG? damn.

Whisky Dog
09-28-2008, 05:50 PM
Come on Garrett, let's see a two back set with felix working a wheel against a LB. It's open against most of these coverages.

DannyT
09-28-2008, 05:53 PM
shit lets just see Felix period...

MannyIsGod
09-28-2008, 05:54 PM
Absolutely EXCELLENT coverage there.

MannyIsGod
09-28-2008, 05:55 PM
Time to run run run.

Whisky Dog
09-28-2008, 05:58 PM
Cowboys receivers need to toughen up. They're being held straight off the line all game and they keep looking for flags. The flags aren't coming, so toughen up and start using your hands to push off and make the refs call it. No adjustments offensively to this game.

DannyT
09-28-2008, 05:58 PM
here we go...its the CP show

MannyIsGod
09-28-2008, 06:00 PM
I'm happy with any points here. A TD is great but a FG is almost as good.

DannyT
09-28-2008, 06:02 PM
a fumble is better

Anti.Hero
09-28-2008, 06:02 PM
Wow looks like another year of shitty defense.

IronMexican
09-28-2008, 06:02 PM
I am so fucking disappointed in the. Idk why I am expecting much, but I still am.

Whisky Dog
09-28-2008, 06:02 PM
Redskins have won this game in every facet since the 1st quarter. Excellent game plan and tough, efficient execution. I'd like this team if they weren't the fucking skins.

MannyIsGod
09-28-2008, 06:03 PM
I want the skins to put this shit away so I can watch the damn WNBA game.



Flame away.

DannyT
09-28-2008, 06:04 PM
woooooooooooooooow after a timeout are ytou serious....we deserve to lose this....our heads is way outta wack

Johnny_Blaze_47
09-28-2008, 06:05 PM
I want the skins to put this shit away so I can watch the damn WNBA game.



Flame away.

Yeah, it's almost over and I've been going back and forth... about 3 minutes left, Sparks up by 2.

MannyIsGod
09-28-2008, 06:07 PM
Yeah I'm flipping also.

IronMexican
09-28-2008, 06:07 PM
What channel is that WNBA game on?

Johnny_Blaze_47
09-28-2008, 06:08 PM
What channel is that WNBA game on?

ESPN2.

Wauters with the nice medium-range shot.

Whisky Dog
09-28-2008, 06:09 PM
miss miss. Do it suisham. Fuck it up.

MannyIsGod
09-28-2008, 06:10 PM
3:20 minutes for the Cowboys to pull out a miracle.

Whisky Dog
09-28-2008, 06:11 PM
shit, that kick was too easy. Oh well, no 16-0 season.

Johnny_Blaze_47
09-28-2008, 06:12 PM
Damn, good win by the Redskins, it seems.

Fuckers.

ducks
09-28-2008, 06:12 PM
shit, that kick was too easy. Oh well, no 16-0 season.

yes but losing to the skins
:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao

ducks
09-28-2008, 06:14 PM
They'll cover that easily

o
rly:lmao

rascal
09-28-2008, 06:14 PM
Iron Mexican
The Raiders have the best logo in football. That music was on This Week in the NFL back in the late 60's early 70's. That show showed all the td highlights for the week with narration and music.

MannyIsGod
09-28-2008, 06:16 PM
WTF Becky Hammond distracted me from Cowboys driving way too fast.

ducks
09-28-2008, 06:17 PM
That spread is way too high. I see more of a 28-24 Dallas game.

good call only you picked wrong team

IronMexican
09-28-2008, 06:19 PM
Iron Mexican
The Raiders have the best logo in football. That music was on This Week in the NFL back in the late 60's early 70's. That show showed all the td highlights for the week with narration and music.

que.

DannyT
09-28-2008, 06:27 PM
good winfor the skins..moss killed up as always

hitmanyr2k
09-28-2008, 06:28 PM
I just gotta say it. HAIL to the MF Redskins!! :lol

The game shouldn't even have been this close.

Warlord23
09-28-2008, 06:28 PM
Cowboys, the USC Trojans of the NFL ... hyped by the media till they run into a team with a plan

scott
09-28-2008, 06:30 PM
Skins played with more heart today. But NFL is 16 games + playoffs. A loss in week 4 won't ruin our season. NFC Beast is going to be interesting all year though. Man, Washington has really improved since week 1 - it's night and day.

ducks
09-28-2008, 06:30 PM
who says dallas is the best team in the nfl
their d could not get the stop they needed when they needed it

redskinfan
09-28-2008, 06:38 PM
HAIL TO THE REDKINS!!!!!

Obstructed_View
09-28-2008, 06:46 PM
I'm somewhat comforted by the fact that the Redskins needed a nearly flawless game to win, but not all that much. The Redskins played really well. I'm disappointed with the Cowboys' effort, but there's not much shame in just getting beat. Cowboys got badly out gameplanned and outcoached today.

ducks
09-28-2008, 06:53 PM
giving up three points in the first half was weak
I thought the redskins should have tried to go for the stop
but they still won

ducks
09-28-2008, 07:03 PM
damm cowboys have 4 easy games in a row

but they better not play like the chargers did in the first half and think the teams will roll over and die

charger got with it in the 4 though

BlackSwordsMan
09-28-2008, 07:05 PM
cowboys sucked today

BlackSwordsMan
09-28-2008, 07:06 PM
but they had to lose sometime no biggy

ducks
09-28-2008, 07:11 PM
dallas could have been 8-0
teams they should beat the next 4 games
almost making them a lock for the playoffs
but they lost today

Bigzax
09-28-2008, 07:51 PM
good game!


I'm surprised the skins ran the ball so well...best i seen all year...

also surprised Dallas didn't...Felix who?


JC has arrived. he's all poise. a tim duncan persona on a football field...:tu

see you in November...:wakeup

Obstructed_View
09-28-2008, 07:57 PM
good game!


I'm surprised the skins ran the ball so well...best i seen all year...

also surprised Dallas didn't...Felix who?


JC has arrived. he's all poise. a tim duncan persona on a football field...:tu

see you in November...:wakeup

Yeah, that kid is really a good manager of the game. He doesn't knock your socks off but he's smart, knows his personnel and makes really good decisions. Again, there are a number of things I'm disappointed about but don't want to sound like I'm taking away from a well-played game by the skins. Taking advantage of your opponent's mistakes is a part of the game.

Babe Laufenberg mentioned during the game that if your name is Moss and you're in Texas Stadium you're likely to have a good day.

bresilhac
09-28-2008, 08:09 PM
HAIL TO THE REDKINS!!!!!

Yes indeed!!!


Hail to the Redskins!
Hail Victory!
Braves on the Warpath!
Fight for old D.C.!
Run or pass and score -- we want a lot more!
Beat 'em, Swamp 'em,
Touchdown! -- Let the points soar!
Fight on, fight on 'Til you have won
Sons of Wash-ing-ton. Rah!, Rah!, Rah!

Hail to the Redskins!
Hail Victory!
Braves on the Warpath!
Fight for old D.C.!

Spurtacus
09-28-2008, 08:19 PM
Best team won today.


I'm tired of hearing all the Cowboys going to the Super Bowl talk. Keep thinking about that and games like this will be lost. Romo has thrown an INT in 7 straight games now. Where are the turnovers for the Cowboys? We are far from perfect.

Obstructed_View
09-28-2008, 08:33 PM
Best team won today.


I'm tired of hearing all the Cowboys going to the Super Bowl talk. Keep thinking about that and games like this will be lost. Romo has thrown an INT in 7 straight games now. Where are the turnovers for the Cowboys? We are far from perfect.

I don't mind the Cowboys going to the Super Bowl talk, but it sure seems like the Cowboys were listening to it before they came out today.

samikeyp
09-28-2008, 08:52 PM
Shoog, Zak, K-State and Manny......

:toast :toast :toast

Well done gentlemen. Your team was better today. Major props.

tlongII
09-28-2008, 09:08 PM
The Skins were just beating a team they're supposed to beat.

samikeyp
09-28-2008, 09:11 PM
Skins played with more heart today. But NFL is 16 games + playoffs. A loss in week 4 won't ruin our season. NFC Beast is going to be interesting all year though. Man, Washington has really improved since week 1 - it's night and day.

+1

K-State Spur
09-28-2008, 09:40 PM
Shoog, Zak, K-State and Manny......

:toast :toast :toast

Well done gentlemen. Your team was better today. Major props.

It was fun to watch, just the second time they've won there in the past decade+.

Although, something tells me that the Skins will now get a better effort from the Cowboys in DC (errr, Landover) than we've seen in a few years.

cool hand
09-28-2008, 09:59 PM
Where the fuck was the running game, Homo wanted to throw on every snap.

CubanMustGo
09-28-2008, 10:12 PM
Where the fuck was the running game, Homo wanted to throw on every snap.

Ask Jason Garrett. Mr. Simpson doesn't call his own plays.

ShoogarBear
09-28-2008, 10:14 PM
:elephant :elephant

ShoogarBear
09-28-2008, 10:14 PM
Unfortunately, I had to work today and missed 90% of the game, though. :depressed

ShoogarBear
09-28-2008, 10:18 PM
http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/deadspin/2008/09/romoplate01.jpg

Hokey smokes. :lmao

Obstructed_View
09-28-2008, 10:31 PM
Where the fuck was the running game, Homo wanted to throw on every snap.

I think they were probably forcing the ball to TO. Considering his idiotic postgame comments, they were probably having to hear him bitch all week long and figured it was worth a loss to teach him the lesson. News flash: he didn't learn nothin'.

Hank the Tank
09-28-2008, 11:04 PM
I think they were probably forcing the ball to TO. Considering his idiotic postgame comments, they were probably having to hear him bitch all week long and figured it was worth a loss to teach him the lesson. News flash: he didn't learn nothin'.

I'm curious, what did he say? I thought something like that happened since every play seemed to involve TO. Hell, there were 2 designed run plays for TO today.

K-State Spur
09-28-2008, 11:09 PM
I'm curious, what did he say? I thought something like that happened since every play seemed to involve TO. Hell, there were 2 designed run plays for TO today.

he just felt they didn't give him the ball enough - probably not a huge deal if it were anybody other than TO...but he's been known to let tiny complaints snowball into fiascos in the past.

however, pretty silly considering that he was targeted 18 times today.

Hank the Tank
09-28-2008, 11:12 PM
he just felt they didn't give him the ball enough - probably not a huge deal if it were anybody other than TO...but he's been known to let tiny complaints snowball into fiascos in the past.

however, pretty silly considering that he was targeted 18 times today.

I see. Thanks, I didn't catch that. All I heard was how everyone praised TO for being unselfish and all. Maybe next game he won't mind if they pound the rock more.

K-State Spur
09-28-2008, 11:32 PM
I see. Thanks, I didn't catch that. All I heard was how everyone praised TO for being unselfish and all. Maybe next game he won't mind if they pound the rock more.

I gotta agree with Aikman's point today that it's a bit ridiculous that everybody was going out of their way to praise TO for doing the little things...aka HIS JOB.

But he's far from the only diva at that position.

Obstructed_View
09-29-2008, 03:21 AM
he just felt they didn't give him the ball enough - probably not a huge deal if it were anybody other than TO...but he's been known to let tiny complaints snowball into fiascos in the past.

however, pretty silly considering that he was targeted 18 times today.

I think it was Cris Collinsworth who pointed out that Owens had 1 out of every three plays going to him in this game. That he would bitch is shocking, even for him. It's possible that someone asked a question that was designed to get that kind of answer and sound bad when they played just the sound bite. Too bad that nobody is willing to give TO the benefit of the doubt. If he's not happy with 2 catches and a win, then someone needs to tell him he should have drafted Jason Witten on his fantasy team.

JudynTX
09-29-2008, 07:43 AM
I'm satisfied, the Cowboys lost.

DBryant88
09-29-2008, 08:04 AM
The eagles did so much better:rolleyes

Jimcs50
09-29-2008, 09:02 AM
They'll cover that easily

:lol

Do you realize that Washington ownes the Cowboys the last 3 years? 5 of 7 times, Washington has beaten your team...how can anyone have thought that they would cover that spread? I won $200, I should have bet a grand.