MEMO TO SPURS PLAYERS: Tip....or I will find you!

[MannyIsGod]

http://manuginobili.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=18496

:nope

[Gerryatrics]

Heh, sounds like someone is bitter :drunk

Dear Manu,

You make $8.5 million a year, I make $7.50 an hour... you bastard.

[MannyIsGod]

Heh, sounds like someone is bitter :drunk

Dear Manu,

You make $8.5 million a year, I make $7.50 an hour... you bastard.

Heh, you should have heard me right after it happend.
:lol

[xcoriate]

:lmao different customs?

what are you going to do, shit happens

[BronxCowboy]

Maybe he forgot his wallet. :lol

[Buenos Hairys]

MANU NO WRONG STOP

[ShoogarBear]

I don't know about South America, but in Europe tipping is a much, much smaller deal.

In Germany, an appropriate tip would be whatever change is left over. So If the bill was 20.72 Euros, and you gave them 21, the change would be an acceptable tip.

Of course, if they find out you're from the US, they'll try to take advantage of that.

[Buenos Hairys]

I USE BE WAITER. I SERVE GRINGO ONE DAY

THEN PAY BILL HE WITH

http://www.boomspeed.com/sweetc/Tpark50.jpg

ME ANGRY WANT KILL

[ShoogarBear]

:lmao

[SpursWoman]

:lmao @ Manny!

[2centsworth]

Malone tips very well! Cousin worked the ice cream store several years ago at the airport, Malone gave him a $20 for a freakin ice cream cone.

In europe tipping is not a big deal, just like bathing isn't a big deal either.

[Slomo]

In europe tipping is not a big deal, just like bathing isn't a big deal either.
It's not a big deal because we are decent enough to pay hard working people a full wage, unlike the US where they depend on the tip to make it through the month.

But you would not know this since you've probably never set foot outside your trailer park anyway.

[johnny00]

[QUOTE

But you would not know this since you've probably never set foot outside your trailer park anyway.[/QUOTE]

AWWW NICE. :lmao

[T Park]

slomo

communism sucks. PERIOD.

[Slomo]

slomo

communism sucks. PERIOD.
How is paying a person the full worth of his/hers work communism? I don't see bank tellers depending on tips to pay their rents, or car mechanics or building workers......

And don't even get me started on communism, because my friend I've survived it (actually I've survived its most benign form, and it still sucked) so explain to me why certain jobs do not deserve a full wage and others do.

[SpursWoman]

I think he's thinking of Socialism, but paying waitstaff a normal wage is in no way, shape or form socialism.

[MosesGuthrie]

I don't see bank tellers depending on tips to pay their rents, or car mechanics

neither do I and I live here. Maybe I am in the wrong business! :lol

You are right though Slomo...a lot of people work hard and don't get a lot for it.

[smeagol]

slomo

communism sucks. PERIOD.
Very ignorant comment, TPark, very ignorant indeed . . .

[whottt]

I'd back off of slomo if I were you TPark...I haven't seen him get an edge like that before and I have a feeling you are about to get served.

[Slomo]

I think he's thinking of Socialism, but paying waitstaff a normal wage is in no way, shape or form socialism.
I agree. But seriously this is one thing I have never really understood about America. Don't you think it's kind of demeaning to people in the restaurant industry?

I understand how it's supposed to work but even I have been in enough restaurants to see asshole customers putting down their waiter/waitress by not tiping just because he/she had a bad day and had to take it out on someone.

[whottt]

so explain to me why certain jobs do not deserve a full wage and others do



Waiters are the only people that make less than minimum wage here and they make a substantial amount more than that in tips. And if they are working large parties the tip is automatically included most of the time.

Here it's like if it's a personal service job you get tipped extra for quality service.

Tipping is usually something extra to show appreciation for prompt or couteous service...it's not usually to be expected as anything other than etiquette...

Technically Manny can't do crap about Manu not tipping him...except complain.


And don't even get me started on communism, because my friend I've survived it (actually I've survived its most benign form, and it still sucked)

See this is awesome...you probably have a lot of insight you could give to the political forum.

We talk about communism and socialism all the time and we all think we know what we are talking about but none of us really have first hand experience on what it's like to live under that form of government...

[whottt]

I understand how it's supposed to work but even I have been in enough restaurants to see asshole customers putting down their waiter/waitress by not tiping just because he/she had a bad day and had to take it out on someone.

It happens but it's the exception not the rule...and waiters usually make great money for the amount of hours they work and the type of work they do.

And most of the time they get more than is expected from the customers.


It's not as bad as you think it is. Really it's not...and if it is the waiters won't work at that restaurant.

[T Park]

Uh, ok communism is fantastic.

Pay everyone the same amount of money.


Ive been served alright. :rolleyes


Im soooooo scared.


Socialism, communism, same ideals.

Everyone should get the same, top to bottom, if your rich sahem on you, same ideals.

[SpursChampsIII]

Quit begging. Get another freakin job.

[MannyIsGod]

Quit begging. Get another freakin job.

First, it's a joke that many people (See SpursWoman's first post) would get because they saw me right after it happend.

Second, expecting a tip when one is customary is not begging.

Anything else?

[MannyIsGod]

Oh and to be fair, tipping in the US usually does ensure that you get a decent wage for the services you do. There are times however, when you do get stiffed and it simply pisses you off. Especially when people working these jobs for the most part are college students who can't afford to have someone's bad day to translate to a shitty payday.

If you ever work in a position where you work for tips, you never tip badly again.

[GrandeDavid]

This he is ignorant to American customs claim is utter bullshit because I've happened to have been in BA, Argentina on business once and saw the Argentinian associate of ours get his car from a restaurant valet and lay a nice tip on him. Its pretty much common sense. Now that Manu is locked up for several years we can start criticizing his faults without worrying about him bolting town. :lol :lol

[Slomo]

It happens but it's the exception not the rule...and waiters usually make great money for the amount of hours they work and the type of work they do.

And most of the time they get more than is expected from the customers.


It's not as bad as you think it is. Really it's not...and if it is the waiters won't work at that restaurant.
Again I understand that people can make good money (although I'm sure it doesn't apply to the majority) but why is it the only industry where the customer is directly influencing the salary of the employees? If it's so great why not apply it to everyone, and if it sucks why not change it? Again I do not undestand why the exception.

As for the political forum debates, they're far from being debates but are more name calling so I just decided to not participate.

[whottt]

If you ever work in a position where you work for tips, you never tip badly again.


That's not true for everyone. I worked for tips through college and while 99% of the time I leave a great tip, if I get really shitty service and attitude at a restaurant and I can see they are just screwing off, I won't stiff them, I will leave them a nickel or a penny or something. I'll leave them something so they'll know I didn't just forget.

That' the flipside...people that have worked for tips can tell if someone is really busy or just shitty at their job.

[Frenchise player]

Uh, ok communism is fantastic.

Pay everyone the same amount of money.


Ive been served alright. :rolleyes


Im soooooo scared.


Socialism, communism, same ideals.

Everyone should get the same, top to bottom, if your rich sahem on you, same ideals.
So you think that liberalism is that better?
Do you know that in Brazil, 10% of the wealthiest earns 50% the ressources?
Do you know that in your country, while you are spending millions and millions of dollars for war in Iraq, the poorest peaple can't be cured without payng a fortune?
Anyway, you should stick to basketball comments because you don't seem to know much about politics and economics.

[MannyIsGod]

Just when I'm ready to start being nice to Tpark......

[whottt]

Again I understand that people can make good money (although I'm sure it doesn't apply to the majority)

No the majority make good money for the type of job it is. Just depends on the restaurant really.

Put it this way Slomo...a good waiter will make good money at a good restaurant. A bad one won't.


but why is it the only industry where the customer is directly influencing the salary of the employees? If it's so great why not apply it to everyone, and if it sucks why not change it? Again I do not undestand why the exception.

You know, I don't really know the answer to that Slomo...I just know that waiting tables is probably the best job you can have while in college.

The only reason I can think of for the minimum wage being lower is that you make a heck of a lot of cash money daily in tips and only have to pay taxes on like 10% of what you make. No one but you really knows how much you are making in tips.

But Waiters make well over the minimum wage.

And as for why it's different than other jobs...well it's just a niche type job. It fits the needs of a certain segment of the population. It's got a lot of flexibility with the hours. As for the why the customer has so much impact in what you make...well it's a customer service job. To tell you the truth, most customer service jobs probably should be more directly reliant on pleasing the customer. It just depends on what the place of business wants to do though. The government really has no say in it except to gurantee a minimum salary.

And some restaurants do pay an hourly wage above minimum wage, plus tips.

Some place automatically include the tip...

It's different at every restaurant really.


LMAO I never thought about how hard it could be to explain it to someone, but I guess I can see why it is confusing. But it really is a good job for a college student.




As for the political forum debates, they're far from being debates but are more name calling so I just decided to not participate.

LOL ok. You are right. But I personally would like to hear some of your insight on what it is like to have lived in a socialist or communist country. And I promise not to call you names if you come in there :)

[2centsworth]

This post was completely out of line. Consider this a warning.

--Kori

[tsb2000]

I suppose everything is subjective, and ultimately, and individual's choice as to whether or not to do a certain type of job. I was a waiter while in college. Years ago, I used to work at Morton's of Chicago, and I made over $75k per year. I have a MBA now, and I still don't pull that much as an accountant (but I don't work weekends, nights, or holidays anymore! :)). For the record, I've waited on many NBA players in my day, and as a group, they are the best tippers of all. Karl Malone, a regular at another restaurant I worked at, was an easy $50 tip for just him and his wife, and they're very low maintenance to wait on. Michael Jordan once gave me $100 to set up the bar in his hotel suite- not bad for about 3 min of work!

[Slomo]

Had to go out for some breakfast. And, Yes I did leave a tip for Monique, my waitress.

Then I had difficulty getting back on-line because the rain is disrupting the wireless LAN in the Hotel (and the lobby is really in danger of being flooded)

http://www.cikava.com/gallery/albums/USA_2005/IMGP0040.jpg


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LOL ok. You are right. But I personally would like to hear some of your insight on what it is like to have lived in a socialist or communist country. And I promise not to call you names if you come in there :)
Well I'm not afraid of being called named if it's deserved, so who knows maybe I'll look at this political forum more.

[Kori Ellis]

Are you in Vegas? What hotel?

[RobinsontoDuncan]

wow, isnt it amazing how much a tip can accomplish?

You pay taxes on tips? Wow I never knew that, I never waited tables though, but I can see where slomo is coming from. I dont think he is advocating communism TPark, he just didnt understand how tipping works here.

[MannyIsGod]

Actually, you DO pay taxes on tips.

[ALVAREZ6]

That guy is a moron for sending Manu a message telling him that he didn't tip him...

[MannyIsGod]

That guy is a moron for sending Manu a message telling him that he didn't tip him...

:lmao

And this guy is a moron for not realizing that was ME

[gay abc]

:lmao

And this guy is a moron for not realizing that was ME


:lmao :lmao

[ALVAREZ6]

:lmao

And this guy is a moron for not realizing that was ME
And this guy is ....still....a moron. :blah

[SpursChampsIII]

First, it's a joke that many people (See SpursWoman's first post) would get because they saw me right after it happend.

Second, expecting a tip when one is customary is not begging.

Anything else?

No, you may go now. And here is your tip: I tip for good service, so you get jack s###. Stop begging :lol

[bigzak25]

Last year, I valleted the Tux and Tennis event. I was fortunate to bring your car up and meet you for a moment. However, it is customary to tip the vallet and you didn't. Why?

Thanks,
Manuel





http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v298/bigzak25/manu.jpg

[Slomo]

Are you in Vegas? What hotel?
Yes, Imperial Palace.

[MannyIsGod]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v298/bigzak25/manu.jpg


:lmao

He actually had a rep with the vallets because he never tips and we did several events he attended. It's weird, but he has to know by this time.

Anyhow, one day somene is going to remember the non tip and his car is going to be parked under 200 pigeons with the top down. And thatmy friend, is not going to be pretty!

[MannyIsGod]

That guy is a moron for sending Manu a message telling him that he didn't tip him...

After reading through that forum, I understand why you are such a homophobe.

It's because you are in love with Manu.

[bigzak25]

http://www.starstore.com/acatalog/Big_Gay_Al_figure.jpg

[ALVAREZ6]

After reading through that forum, I understand why you are such a homophobe.

It's because you are in love with Manu.
Am I really? Just because he's my favorite athlete, I'm a homophobe?

[Phenomanul]

So you think that liberalism is that better?
Do you know that in Brazil, 10% of the wealthiest earns 50% the ressources?
Do you know that in your country, while you are spending millions and millions of dollars for war in Iraq, the poorest peaple can't be cured without payng a fortune?
Anyway, you should stick to basketball comments because you don't seem to know much about politics and economics.

Not to criticize the french or anything (as some of my best friends are french)...

but I don't understand how they can hate American foreign policy so much seeing how it was that policy that saved them from the Germans not once but twice!!!!!

Such ungratefulness!!!!!!!!!!!!

It must be that they are being swayed by the growing muslim population within France. Not that all muslims are bad but they tend to see 'America' as the "Great Satan".

Anyways I know these comments belong in the political forum....

[Extra Stout]

Right now, the current setup of tipping for customer service jobs works out well because employees can get away with underreporting their cash tips, and thus avoid paying income taxes on them. It's technically illegal, but unenforceable.

That may change based upon recent court rulings. The IRS may gain the authority to tax tip recipients based upon an estimate of cash tips derived from restaurants sales and credit card tips.

If that ever comes to pass, the practice of using tips as the primary means of employee compensation for waitstaff and other customer service jobs may diminish significantly.

[2centsworth]

If that ever comes to pass, the practice of using tips as the primary means of employee compensation for waitstaff and other customer service jobs may diminish significantly.

Wrong! Tips is a way for those types of employees to make more than an employer would ever be willing to pay and keep prices the same. Most of the people who work on tips make at least $15/hr, and for a student that's not bad. Take away tips and those employees will make 7-8 hr, can you imagine the shitty service we would get?

[Frenchise player]

Because criticizing the United States politics means that we are ungrateful of what american soldiers did 60 years ago?
You must be kidding.
Do you think that Roosevelt foreign policy is the same as the current administration one?
I can assure you that if you ask to people in France what they think about Roosevelt, Kennedy, Wilson or Clinton, they will all have good words for what they have done.
Do you prefer blind allies who follow you in the worst decision you make (assuming that you agree that the USA can be wrong), or countries that prefer warn you that you may be commiting a fault?

The second part of your post is absoulutly astonishing. How can you imagine that the current France reaction about war in Iraq is dictated by the muslim population?
Unfortunately, as in most developed countries, the muslim are among the poorest people in France and they can't climb the social ladder that easily.
They have the low-paid jobs and their power to influence the decisions of the country are relatively small.

[jalbre6]

I managed a nightclub for about five years, and have been in the bar and restaurant business for about ten. For the most part people from out of country did tip. Not extravagantly, but they did, knowing that it's what people do here. The ones that didn't usually came around when they realized that they were waiting longer than everyone else.

It would be nice if waitstaff was paid $8-10 an hour, but trust me, your service would suffer. It wouldn't be from lack of motivation...it would be from both from lack of quality employees and less servers on the floor. Also, the pricing of items on the menu would increase. People are pretty motivated when they know instant gratification, in the form of cash, is at hand.

[Spurs_rock05]

come on manu you got a 51 million deal and you can't even giva tip??!!
dear god have some compassion will you we don't make the kind of money you do!!!!

[smeagol]

18% tip in some restaurants is outrageous!

[TheWriter]

Damn... 3 pages on tips...

[ShoogarBear]

Get Off Ma Tip.

[ClintSquint]

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[emmo]

18% tip in some restaurants is outrageous!

then you can't afford to go to those restaurants.

[Clandestino]

then you can't afford to go to those restaurants.

exactly, if you can't afford to tip at least 15% then you should be eating at home or sticking to fast food joints..

[Clandestino]

one thing to note... in europe if you are going to frequent a restaurant, tip and you will be greatly rewarded and remembered. there will never not be a seat for you in the restaurant no matter how full it is. i remembering walking into restaurants many times and seeing the people in front turned away, then being seated 2 seconds later. the people would look at me evil! hahaha...

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

one thing to note... in europe if you are going to frequent a restaurant, tip and you will be greatly rewarded and remembered. there will never not be a seat for you in the restaurant no matter how full it is. i remembering walking into restaurants many times and seeing the people in front turned away, then being seated 2 seconds later. the people would look at me evil! hahaha...

True here, too.

My favorite Mexican food place always piles on the food, stuffs the taco or gets things out to me super quick. I've been going there for years and always reward them for that extra service.

[Clandestino]

now, to lighten things up a bit here...

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[Louae]

First, it's a joke that many people (See SpursWoman's first post) would get because they saw me right after it happend.

Second, expecting a tip when one is customary is not begging.

Anything else?

tipping is bullshit. it should never be expected. it's a travesty that businesses use it as a way of shortchanging their staff.

[Louae]

Oh and to be fair, tipping in the US usually does ensure that you get a decent wage for the services you do. There are times however, when you do get stiffed and it simply pisses you off. Especially when people working these jobs for the most part are college students who can't afford to have someone's bad day to translate to a shitty payday.

If you ever work in a position where you work for tips, you never tip badly again.

What I can't understand is why people working in jobs dependent on tips get so pissed about getting stiffed. When you accept the position, you know you're accepting a lower wage in the chance you can make more than minimum wage. Getting stiffed is a part of the risk. Live with it. Don't come crying to us for pity when you get stiffed. If you don't like it, get another job.

Damn, this is like a telemarketer complaining b/c callers yelling at them for calling. If you can't take the heat, then leave.

[Louae]

Actually, you DO pay taxes on tips.

Well, at least the tips you report.

[Louae]

:lmao

He actually had a rep with the vallets because he never tips and we did several events he attended. It's weird, but he has to know by this time.

Anyhow, one day somene is going to remember the non tip and his car is going to be parked under 200 pigeons with the top down. And thatmy friend, is not going to be pretty!

You're a valet. That's your job. To park the fuckin' cars.

You know, I could understand tipping a bartender for a stiff drink or giving you prompt service in a crowded bar. I can even understand tipping a waiter great for being very attentive and friendly. But a valet? Come on, all you do is park the fuckin' car. I've never understood why anybody would tip the valet unless they request you to do something extra. Otherwise, park the fuckin' car.

Next, I'll hear you complaining about people not tipping the cashier at HEB for giving me back the correct change.

[Louae]

Wrong! Tips is a way for those types of employees to make more than an employer would ever be willing to pay and keep prices the same. Most of the people who work on tips make at least $15/hr, and for a student that's not bad. Take away tips and those employees will make 7-8 hr, can you imagine the shitty service we would get?

Not true. If service was shitty, I would take my business elsewhere.

[MannyIsGod]

You're a valet. That's your job. To park the fuckin' cars.

You know, I could understand tipping a bartender for a stiff drink or giving you prompt service in a crowded bar. I can even understand tipping a waiter great for being very attentive and friendly. But a valet? Come on, all you do is park the fuckin' car. I've never understood why anybody would tip the valet unless they request you to do something extra. Otherwise, park the fuckin' car.

Next, I'll hear you complaining about people not tipping the cashier at HEB for giving me back the correct change.

But you've never been a vallet have you?

Well, if you ever valet park, you'll understand.

[Louae]

But you've never been a vallet have you?

Well, if you ever valet park, you'll understand.

And if I had, you'd think I'd understand your pain.

Give me a break.

[GoldToe]

I've gotten different answers from different people.


Am I supposed to tip the girls at Sonic?

[SpurYank]

The college student who didn't get tipped had a right to complain. He doesn't have a whole section of restauranteurs to wait on to perhaps balance a bad tip. How many cars will he have a chance to return to their drivers? I truly have no idea. My guess is that Manu didn't know any better. He seems to be a decent person.

[PM5K]

I've gotten different answers from different people.


Am I supposed to tip the girls at Sonic?

Of course, and extra tip for roller skates or short shorts....

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

Of course, and extra tip for roller skates or short shorts....

Is it just me or is the ability to pay by credit/debit card at the speaker feel in some way like trying to stiff the roller girls?

[SequSpur]

But then again he did build a school with his own money. TP's old woman though, what a snobby female dog.

WTF? Dude, its not cool to call a female a dog. If you want to say she is snobby or something like that, but dude, lay off the dog treatment.

[2centsworth]

What I can't understand is why people working in jobs dependent on tips get so pissed about getting stiffed. When you accept the position, you know you're accepting a lower wage in the chance you can make more than minimum wage. Getting stiffed is a part of the risk. Live with it. Don't come crying to us for pity when you get stiffed. If you don't like it, get another job.

Damn, this is like a telemarketer complaining b/c callers yelling at them for calling. If you can't take the heat, then leave.

If you want to be a stiffer live with people giving you grief, don't come crying to us that people give you grief. If you can't take the heat then don't go out to eat. See how stupid that sounds?

[smeagol]

then you can't afford to go to those restaurants.
What do you mean with "those" restaurants?

Every restaurant in NYC charges you tips of 18% if you are part of a group of six or more, regardless of the service they provide.

[smeagol]

exactly, if you can't afford to tip at least 15% then you should be eating at home or sticking to fast food joints..
Who said I can't afford going to restaurants other than fast food?. Believe me Clandestino, I can.

I just think its ludicrous to charge an 18% commission for doing such a basic thing as serving you food.

Tipping in the US has gotten out of hand. Cab drivers in NYC will yell at you if you don't tip them (and they ussually yell to you in a foreign langauge). Even guys who cut your hair expect a tip.

Tipping should depend of quality service, not just on tradition.

[blackbucket]

I start at 20% and then go down or up depending on the level of service. I have no problem tipping 0% if warranted or 50%.

[MannyIsGod]

Who said I can't afford going to restaurants other than fast food?. Believe me Clandestino, I can.

I just think its ludicrous to charge an 18% commission for doing such a basic thing as serving you food.

Tipping in the US has gotten out of hand. Cab drivers in NYC will yell at you if you don't tip them (and they ussually yell to you in a foreign langauge). Even guys who cut your hair expect a tip.

Tipping should depend of quality service, not just on tradition.

Why is it ridiculous? The price is either going to be on your bill as a tip, or as a higher priced food item because the establishment has to pay a higher wage.

You have ever opportunity to bring any unacceptable service up with management. But what recourse does the server have when he encounters someone who is just cheap and decides to screw them?

[pepito51]

Not to criticize the french or anything (as some of my best friends are french)...

but I don't understand how they can hate American foreign policy so much seeing how it was that policy that saved them from the Germans not once but twice!!!!!

Such ungratefulness!!!!!!!!!!!!

It must be that they are being swayed by the growing muslim population within France. Not that all muslims are bad but they tend to see 'America' as the "Great Satan".

Anyways I know these comments belong in the political forum....

you cold make such political comment.... but please... but first, try to get some informations...
as a french, i would say that most of the french people disagree witht he american government cause we see that they do so many mistakes abroad.... i understand that you reelected bush because you care about the national conditions..... perhaps he has a charisma.. i dont know and i dont care in fact..... but if ONE day, you go abroad and try to know about other people and and other CULTURE, you will see that bush has made some terrible mistakes (war in order to do business, no war against korea, environment, ...) and put the world against USA... i think european people are enough informed to know that it's just the government that sucks.... other countries dont have this knowledge of how some media can change the opinion.....
anyway, try to read a little bit and stop to watch cbs or any murdoch related media.... but first, come to europe, and you will see how we love americans...
we ust cant bare the businessman who lead your government

[Drachen]

Waiters are the only people that make less than minimum wage here and they make a substantial amount more than that in tips. And if they are working large parties the tip is automatically included most of the time.

Here it's like if it's a personal service job you get tipped extra for quality service.

Tipping is usually something extra to show appreciation for prompt or couteous service...it's not usually to be expected as anything other than etiquette...



Tipping should go back to its original form (i.e. before the meal). Tips is an acronym meaning To Insure Propmt Service. That way I could know what assholes to slack off on, and which to pay attention to.

Oh and I hate the fact that the kitchen has any effect on my tip. I didnt make your steak, I cant magically will it to be cooked the correct temp, taking it out on me will serve NO purpose whatsoever. Call corporate, talk to management, hey quit patronizing the place . . . these things will get you results by weeding out the bad cooks.

[Shelly]

I don't blame the waitstaff if the food is slow. I know it's not their fault, but I do appreciate if they come by once in a while to explain why the service is slow. I've had waiters that take your order and you never see them again until bill time.

Outside of Ruth's Chris because that's a different level, I have never, EVER had bad service at Champps. I've always had great waiters and the manager always stops buy to make sure your meal is okay. I don't know how they train, but they're doing something right.

Applebee's sucks. Have always had the missing waiter there.

Oh, and I usually tip 20%. It's easier for me to figure out...:lol

[Louae]

If you want to be a stiffer live with people giving you grief, don't come crying to us that people give you grief. If you can't take the heat then don't go out to eat. See how stupid that sounds?

Why don't you go buy a brain b/c obviously you're not using it. Just listen to what you're telling me. Do you honestly think any owner, whose business is dependent upon people heading out to eat, would go for this statement? Of course not. If he did, he wouldn't be an owner of a business for very long. Remember, I'm the customer. I'm the one paying for a service. If I'm not happy, I'm spending my money elsewhere. And if I'm not happy with any service anywhere, I'm keeping my money in my pocket. And if my money is in my pocket, it's definately not in your pocket or the owner's pocket. Which isn't good news for him if he's planning on making a living.

If I want to leave a tip, I'll leave one. I'm certainly not leaving a tip out of pity (poor college kid) or guilt (being a bad person or cheap). I'm leaving a tip b/c I feel the service is worthy of one or b/c I'm requesting a favor. There is no obligation on my part to leave one.

As for a valet, I'm not tipping that GOOF unless I'm requesting a favor. Shit, if I'm getting valet, I'm paying for it. Last time I checked, parking valet isn't free. Why pay a valet unless you're requesting more then just parking the car in the lot? It makes no fuckin' sense. If I'm gonna do something stupid like that, then why don't I tip everybody. Why don't I tip cashiers for giving me correct change? Why don't I tip a mechanic for fixing my car? Heck, while we're at it, let me tip the cable guy for installing my cable? Where does the stupidity stop?

Again, if he doesn't like getting stiffed, he should find another occupation. Getting stiffed is a part of the occupation. Live with it.

[Louae]

Who said I can't afford going to restaurants other than fast food?. Believe me Clandestino, I can.

I just think its ludicrous to charge an 18% commission for doing such a basic thing as serving you food.

Tipping in the US has gotten out of hand. Cab drivers in NYC will yell at you if you don't tip them (and they ussually yell to you in a foreign langauge). Even guys who cut your hair expect a tip.

Tipping should depend of quality service, not just on tradition.

Truer words were never spoken.

[bigzak25]

i think i'm a good tipper. whether my bartender or just the nice lady at the taqueria...and i do tip the sonic gals too....i'm probobaly a little cheap on pizza delivery tips...as i usually give him like 2 bucks...and that probobaly amounts to closer to 10%.....and this makes me think how i need to give more at church on sundays.....oh well, nobody is perfect......in miami, it's 15% automatically added to your bill...so count your blessings...

point is, manu is manu. he should expect top class service, and he should tip. ten bucks wouldn't kill the mans bank account. but to each their own....

[Louae]

Why is it ridiculous? The price is either going to be on your bill as a tip, or as a higher priced food item because the establishment has to pay a higher wage.

You have ever opportunity to bring any unacceptable service up with management. But what recourse does the server have when he encounters someone who is just cheap and decides to screw them?

It's ridiculous b/c tipping isn't about rewarding quality service anymore. It's about paying a salary for service I already expect from an establishment. And remember this and remember it well. You're in the business of pleasing people. If you do your job well, you'll be rewarded. Life isn't a fuckin' garden of roses. There will be times when you'll run into a fuckin' cheapskate after serving his ass like a king. You'll have to eat that shit and continue on b/c the next time there might be a guy who will drop a $20 or $30 for the same type of service. It's a part of the job. If you can't hack that shit, then find another job.

Do you think a Car Salesman likes it when they work on a potential buyer all day only to have them leave for the day with no sale. Then to top it off, the same customer returns on another day when you're absent and purchases the car with another salesman. Now, that would suck. Especially when you might spend your whole week there. But that's the life of a salesman and if you can't handle it, you need to find another occupation. If you're good, the payoff is worth the bad moments.

[MannyIsGod]

As for a valet, I'm not tipping that GOOF unless I'm requesting a favor. Shit, if I'm getting valet, I'm paying for it. Last time I checked, parking valet isn't free.



:lmao

Where do you think I worked? Some jack ass shitty place like the Atrium? Grahm Central Station?

COMPLIMENTARY VALET service at the places I did it at, was FREE as a courtesy the customer. That is exactly why it is customary to TIP.

When we did parties and private events such as Tux and Tennis, there are options to have the tip built in, so that the valets are tipped out at the end of the night but that is a more expensive option. The other option is to have a customary tip to the valets of an amount that the driver chooses.

I should have known. I should have known the moment I looked at your response that your experince with this would be at much lower end establishments. I'm sure your idea of fine dining is Chilis, and thats fine.

But you are obviously NOT familliar with the customs at places with a much higher standard of service.

So, who's the GOOF?

Continue to be a lousy tipper. I can only imagine how that karma is going to bite you in the ass.

[JsnSA]

..i'm probobaly a little cheap on pizza delivery tips...as i usually give him like 2 bucks...

I used to deliver pizzas part time a few years ago and I can tell you that 2 bucks would have been perfectly fine. Only the greediest drivers would ever give that kind of tip a seond thought...unless you made him or her wait 15 minutes while you find your wallet or something.

Hey Manny...I asked Manu why he stiffed you and he said it was because your service SUCKED.


Ok...not really.

He seems like a nice guy and I'm gonna guess that it either slipped is mind or he was under the impression for whatever reason that the Valet was a paid (as in you get paid without tips) service and thus did not require tips from those who use it.

I'd just give him the benefit of the doubt. I seriously doubt it was because he was just cheap.

[Louae]

:lmao

Where do you think I worked? Some jack ass shitty place like the Atrium? Grahm Central Station?

I'm not a mind-reader, you whinny bitch. How else would I know where you're parking cars if you're not telling? Based on the amount of class you exhibit, I wasn't assuming anything extravagent.


COMPLIMENTARY VALET service at the places I did it at, was FREE as a courtesy the customer. That is exactly why it is customary to TIP.

When we did parties and private events such as Tux and Tennis, there are options to have the tip built in, so that the valets are tipped out at the end of the night but that is a more expensive option. The other option is to have a customary tip to the valets of an amount that the driver chooses..

In other words, you getting a sub-standard salary for parking cars. Hmmmm, seems like you're pretty STUPID for accepting such a position, college boy. You'd think you'd learn something about earning a dollar in school. I guess school isn't doing a very good job of penetrating that primative brain of yours.


I should have known. I should have known the moment I looked at your response that your experince with this would be at much lower end establishments. I'm sure your idea of fine dining is Chilis, and thats fine.

Really mister high-class? Is it really fine my idea of fine dining is Chilli's? How often do you pay for your meals at high-end establishments, mister high-class? Mister poor college student. Mister zero-class who has the nerve to post on the man's website about getting stiffed. How often do you pay to dine at high-end establishments instead of working at them?


But you are obviously NOT familliar with the customs at places with a much higher standard of service.

So, who's the GOOF?

You are. Customs such as these are for chumps or GOOFS such as yourself. And believe me, you're a GOOF. That's why you're complaining. You see me complaining about that shit? Shit, the only thing I'm complaining about is your whinning about getting stiffed. I don't care about that bogus theory of tipping now-a-days. I don't like it, but I'm not complaining. And you know why? B/c I don't participate in it. If I feel a service provided should be rewarded, I won't hessitate to tip graciously. In my opinion, you're an idiot for working at a place that provides you with sub-standard wages. If I were you, I'd only work at places where tips were "built-in" and reap the benefits of the many people who tip anyway. Oh well, have fun living in chumpsville.


Continue to be a lousy tipper. I can only imagine how that karma is going to bite you in the ass.

Wrong assumption, college boy. I'm not a lousy tipper, I'm a wise tipper. You're just upset b/c you're getting your shit packed in when people don't participate in this bogus theory of tipping.

You should know by now that life isn't fair. You have to work hard and be a good little trooper in order to make your money. Nothing in life is just handed to you on a silver platter. So don't get upset when you don't get what you want. Work through it and move along. If you can't take the heat, get out. Stop complaining. You'll get more accomplished that way. Now class is over.

[Egg]

I'm not a mind-reader, you winny bitch. How else would I know where you're parking cars if you're not telling? Based on the amount of class you exhibit, I wasn't assuming anything extravagent.



In other words, you get very little in terms of salary for parking cars. Hmmmm, seems like you're pretty STUPID for accepting such a position, college boy. You'd think you'd learn something about earning a dollar in school. I guess school isn't doing a good job of penetrating that primative brain of yours.



Really mister high-class? Is it really fine that my idea of fine dining is Chilli's? How often do you pay for your meals at high-end establishments, mister high-class? Mister poor college student. Mister zero-class who has the nerve to post on the man's website about getting stiffed. How often do you pay to dine at high-end restuarants instead of working at them?



You are. Customs such as those are for chumps or GOOFS such as yourself. And believe me, you're a GOOF. That's why you're complaining. You see me complaining about that shit? Shit, the only thing I'm complaining about is your whinning about getting stiffed. I don't care about that bogus theory of tipping now-a-days. I don't like it, but I'm not complaining. And you know why? B/c I don't participate in it. If I feel a service provided should be rewarded, I won't hessitate to tip graciously. In my opinion, you're an idiot for working at a place that provides you with sub-standard wages. If I were you, I'd only work at places where tips were "built-in" and reap the benefits of the many people who tip anyway. Oh well, have fun living chumpsville.



Wrong assumption, college boy. I'm not a lousy tipper, I'm a wise tipper. You're just upset b/c you're getting your shit packed in when people don't choose to participate in this bogus theory of tipping.

You should know by now that life isn't fair. You have to work hard and be a good little trooper to make your money. Nothing in life is just handed to you for nothing. So don't get upset when you don't get it. Work through it and move along. If you can't take the heat, get out. Stop complaining. You'll get more accomplished.


louae... go for a walk... youre getting hysteric

Manny was just making kind of a joke, and Im sure Manu would also understand it like that...

Now, If your wrong about an argument, be a man and accept it... name-callin g is not the most intelligent way to argue against someone you seem to think is inferior to you only because he goes to college...

college boy :rolleyes hahah is that some kind of new insult?? whats wrong in going to college?

lol.. If you cannot read minds then you could ask first... :rolleyes

and.. if you get a free vallet parking, then you SHOULD tip the guy, because you should be paying him for the service...

[bigzak25]

so you see Manu....you see what you caused.....5 frickin bucks....

or at the very least....have a free one of these ready...

http://www.nba.com/media/spurs/manutravelmug_200w.jpg

[Louae]

louae... go for a walk... youre getting hysteric

Manny was just making kind of a joke, and Im sure Manu would also understand it like that...

one, it didn't sound like a joke. two, Manny isn't acting like it's a joke, so I'm not either.


Now, If your wrong about an argument, be a man and accept it... name-callin g is not the most intelligent way to argue against someone you seem to think is inferior to you only because he goes to college...

That's the thing, Egg. I don't think I'm wrong in this argument. But believe me, if I did, I'd be man enough to own up to it. I've lived long enough to swallow enough humble pies to feed a hippo. I'm not afraid to admit when I'm wrong.


college boy :rolleyes hahah is that some kind of new insult?? whats wrong in going to college?

There's nothing wrong w/ going to college. Shit, I went to college. But now that I've been working for a while, I see that kids who are still in college have this "ivory tower" type mentality. Not all kids, but many. Shit, when I look back when I was in college. I'm pretty sure I was one of those kids as well. I guess it's a phase. But "college boy" is a nickname that points to this "ivory tower" mentality where students think they know it all.


lol.. If you cannot read minds then you could ask first... :rolleyes

Why would I ask? I would have to know more about vallet service in order to ask that type of question. I've never been a vallet so I wouldn't know how they pay someone providing that service.


and.. if you get a free vallet parking, then you SHOULD tip the guy, because you should be paying him for the service...

In this instance, I'd agree. B/c if I CHOSE to vallet park, I'd expect to pay for that service and if it was FREE, I'd tip. But if you had no choice but to vallet park, then I could definately understand how someone would think that it's not necessary to tip. I know I'd think that. I'd think that was something provided by the establishment. Do you see where I'm coming from. Either way, I think it's low-class to be posting on some guy's website about getting stiffed. It's a part of the job, in my opinion.

[bigzak25]

i don't think it was low class at all. i find it humorous. manny was inquisative, but polite. if anything, manu might be more inclined to tip for good service from now on, so it served a purpose.

what i don't understand, is a superior attitude and panties in a bunch. you don't wanna tip? don't. you do? then tip. but spare the dramatics. it's really not that big a fuckin deal.

[Louae]

i don't think it was low class at all. i find it humorous. manny was inquisative, but polite. if anything, manu might be more inclined to tip for good service from now on, so it served a purpose.

That's cool. You're entitled to your opinion.


you don't wanna tip? don't. you do? then tip. but spare the dramatics. it's really not that big a fuckin deal.

Truer words were never spoken.

That's why I can't understand why manny would feel inclined to complain.

[spur219]

If you are working on tips then you have to work for the tips. If I ever get a waiter or waitress that just plain sucks and didn't do anything to earn a tip then I leave no tip on the table. Now if I saw that they were trying and gave a great effort and the service was great then you will like the tip I give you.

[MannyIsGod]

Louae, you attended college, but have you ever been taught to read?

You said I didn't say it was a joke, HOWEVER, this:



First, it's a joke that many people (See SpursWoman's first post) would get because they saw me right after it happend.

Second, expecting a tip when one is customary is not begging.

Anything else?

Was posted on the first page.

You assume a whole hell of a lot. I worked that job because I made a shitload of money from people that tip well. Manu didn't tip at all, and he had a rep with the valets of being a stiffer.

I'm not going to argue any further with you; you already admitted he should have tipped.

[Louae]

Louae, you attended college, but have you ever been taught to read?

Apparently so, since I'm not right next to you parking cars.


You said I didn't say it was a joke,

No, I said it didn't SOUND like a joke. What triggered me was the sarcasm involved in your second sentence, "Second, expecting a tip when one is customary is not begging. Anything else?". Then you follow it up by posting, "Oh and to be fair, tipping in the US usually does ensure that you get a decent wage for the services you do. There are times however, when you do get stiffed and it simply pisses you off. Especially when people working these jobs for the most part are college students who can't afford to have someone's bad day to translate to a shitty payday. you ever work in a position where you work for tips, you never tip badly again."


You assume a whole hell of a lot. I worked that job because I made a shitload of money from people that tip well. Manu didn't tip at all, and he had a rep with the valets of being a stiffer.

I'm not going to argue any further with you; you already admitted he should have tipped.

Well, when you leave so little information, assumptions must be made in order to respond to a statement. Unfortunately, that leaves a lot of room for a misunderstanding. While I do think he should've tipped if valet parking was free, I can see how he might have stiffed you by accident if he didn't have the option to park the vehicle himself.

[MannyIsGod]

You apparently can't read.

MANU HAS A REPUTATION FOR DOING THIS OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN. This wasn't an isolated incident.

And yeah, I guess you have to assume because of the law they passed against ASKING QUESTIONS.

And where on earth do you not have the option to park the car for yourself? It's a service, not a punishment.

And you're right, me being a valet last year while being a student is definetly an indicator that I can't read. Shouldn't you have followed up that bold deduction with an "Elementry" Sherlock?

[Louae]

And you're right, me being a valet last year while being a student is definetly an indicator that I can't read. Shouldn't you have followed up that bold deduction with an "Elementry" Sherlock?

Dumbass, I'm not a student anymore. While it's okay for you to be parking cars, it wouldn't be a ringing endorsement for me to be parking cars with you.

[Rick Von Braun]

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/images/smilies/lmao.gif

I think this debate is getting out of control. It is completely subjective whether to tip or not. http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/images/smilies/smiblabber.gif

Main Entry: gra·tu·ity
Pronunciation: gr&-'tü-&-tE, -'tyü-
Function: noun
Inflected Form(s): plural -ities
: something given voluntarily or beyond obligation usually for some service; especially : TIP

I personally think tipping is out of control as well. If people are so adamant about the right of receiving a tip, then they should work at a place that enforce mandatory extra fees (I wouldn't call them tips anymore). http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/images/smilies/smismokin.gif

By the very definition of the word, tipping is completely voluntary and beyond obligation.

[GINNNNNNNNNNNNOBILI]

He answered you manny

[Kori Ellis]

OMG .. Here's Manu's answer. :lol


WOW!! You waited a little bit to let me know about this!! I'm very sorry!!
Tipping is different in many countries, and probably sometimes I just forget or don't know that I have to tip some people, but in your case, I DO remember that I didn't tip you, but it was only because both me and my wife didn't have the wallet with us, I only took to that party the driving license!! I'm very sorry again!

By the way, how much you should tip a vallet parking guy? to be ready for the next time.

See you.

[carolgino]

yeah,i just wanted to post Manu's reply here..he replied so much..

he didn't have his wallet and so neither his wife..

hehe..would the guy wait for his answer a long time? is he satisfied with it?

[bigzak25]

classy answer. props to manu. message sent. purpose served.


and I told you he left his wallet in his dress shoes....

[SpursWoman]

:lol

[Shelly]

Makes me love Manu even more!

[Clandestino]

Who said I can't afford going to restaurants other than fast food?. Believe me Clandestino, I can.

I just think its ludicrous to charge an 18% commission for doing such a basic thing as serving you food.

Tipping in the US has gotten out of hand. Cab drivers in NYC will yell at you if you don't tip them (and they ussually yell to you in a foreign langauge). Even guys who cut your hair expect a tip.

Tipping should depend of quality service, not just on tradition.

bc that is what the tip is for.. you can cook your own food, but you don't want to.. you can serve your own food, but you don't want to... you are SUPPOSED to tip... if not, then you truly can't afford to... you make up excuses for not tipping bc you really can't afford it..

[Clandestino]

manu is just being nice... he didn't want to tip big eared, rude manny!

[TMTTRIO]

I like Manu's response to does Tony Parker have a girlfriend when he says he's not sure. Come on Manu, it's ok to spill it out :lol

[smeagol]

bc that is what the tip is for.. you can cook your own food, but you don't want to.. you can serve your own food, but you don't want to... you are SUPPOSED to tip... if not, then you truly can't afford to... you make up excuses for not tipping bc you really can't afford it..
Check RVB's post and get back tome. Tipping, by definition, is voluntary.

In any case, I'm not opposed to tipping. I'm opposed to MANDATORY 18% GRATUITY some restaurants charge you.

Props to Manu for his response.

[CosmicCowboy]

I customarily tip 20%+ for good service. A $40 dollar tip is not uncommon for an hours worth of good waiter service for a party of 4-6 and the waiter is covering other tables at the same time...but poor service also gets poor tips...same for bellmen, valets, etc...

guess we know what category Manny falls in...:lol

[smeagol]

I customarily tip 20%+ for good service. A $40 dollar tip is not uncommon for an hours worth of good waiter service for a party of 4-6 and the waiter is covering other tables at the same time...but poor service also gets poor tips...same for bellmen, valets, etc...

guess we know what category Manny falls in...:lol
Exactly, CC.

I'm happy to tip in exchange for good service. But that is no longer the case. It's expected, and that is what pisses me off.

[conversekid]

But what recourse does the server have when he encounters someone who is just cheap and decides to screw them?

[MannyIsGod]

http://manuginobili.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=156291#156291

Wow, Manu gets mad props from me for him answering that!



Manu,

I appreciate you answering my last question. It was actually intended as a joke. Ever since that event, whenever I get to gether with a group of fellow Spurs fans, I have used it as a kind of running joke. I honestly did not expect you to respond to it, and although I accept your apology it wasn't nessecary. We still love you either way! (Especially after the Pheonix game.)

The average valet tip is between 1 and 2 dollars. Most of the guys I worked with were either military men trying to make a few more bucks or students.

Everyone has situations where they are unable to tip for whatever reason, and if you simply mention that to the valet 99% of the guys doing it will understand.

Even though this started as a joke, I really do appreciate your response, and I know many of the people who read it as well appreciate it.

¡Gracias, y juega bien en Denver!

¡Ay nos vemos, adiós!

[MannyIsGod]

Shit, I meant to crack a joke that the Manu Travel Mug was the appropriate tip. hahahahahaha

[ShoogarBear]

You should send Manu this entire friggin thread. He'll park his own car for the rest of his life.

Edit: Hey, WTF? He and his wife didn't take their wallets? So they stiffed the waitpersons, too!

Fire him up again, Manny!

:lol

[MannyIsGod]

:lmao After reading this thread today. Kori, you gotta make this a classic.

[angel_luv]

Heh, you should have heard me right after it happend.
:lol


Oh my God! That was you!!!!!!!!!!!!

[spurschick]

:lmao After reading this thread today. Kori, you gotta make this a classic.

Truly hysterical!
:lmao :lmao :lmao

[angel_luv]

Oh my God! That was you!!!!!!!!!!!!

Angel hums, " It's a small world after all!"

[MannyIsGod]

What do you mean that was you?

[AlamoSpursFan]

She means she's stalking you Manuel...

:lol

[angel_luv]

What do you mean that was you?

I'm sweetpea_20. I read that entire series hot off the presses. Nice to "meet" you, Msalgado

[MannyIsGod]

OH, I see what you mean.

[angel_luv]

Hehe! I laughed at you then but I am dying now. Life is too funny!

[MannyIsGod]

:lmao

Seriously, all of you that are new missed out on the running joke at the GTGs last year. I'd bitch about it everytime he did something during the game.

[angel_luv]

The old classics never die!

[easjer]

Never mind - I changed my mind about my rant.

Go Spurs!

[angel_luv]

P.S I am glad you and Gino made up :lol

[MannyIsGod]

Bump.

If Manu doesn't come to play tonight, I'm calling that bitch a cheap motherfucker everytime he touches the ball.

[Mixability]

Bump.

If Manu doesn't come to play tonight, I'm calling that bitch a cheap motherfucker everytime he touches the ball.

He better show up or he doesn't even deserve to wear his OWN jersey, much less Avery's old number. :lol

[Phenomanul]

Bump.

If Manu doesn't come to play tonight, I'm calling that bitch a cheap motherfucker everytime he touches the ball.


Are you going to the game to get your tip...

Or was the metaphorical "show up" the only version implied?? :spin

[nkdlunch]

who's cheaper. A guy who doesn't tip the valet, or the valet who still remembers the incident after a year??? :lol

[sa_butta]

Ever think of the possiblity he didnt like the service?

[SA Gunslinger]

Manu was great except for that last play in game three. He is due for a good game from beyond the arc. I can't ever remember him struggling with his three point shot as he is now. If that shot is not dropping, the lanes will be clogged.

[1Parker1]

Bump.

If Manu doesn't come to play tonight, I'm calling that bitch a cheap motherfucker everytime he touches the ball.


:lmao I just read this thread for the first time ever. Manu's response was very classy I must say. Do you really think he remember the incident like he says Manny? :lol

[angel_luv]

Ever think of the possiblity he didnt like the service?


:lol

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

I almost called Manny a few weeks ago because of this thread.

I was at a conference in Austin and the main meeting point was The Driskill hotel with paid valet parking.

The first night, I tipped the guy about $4-5 because he was pretty respectful and quick (although his boss was an asshole), the second night, I think I tipped $2.

[jmard5]

Damn... 3 pages on tips...

Yeah. But I am enjoying the discussion.

[z0sa]

alot of places share the tipshares nowadays though...

[tlongII]

Memo to Manny : The amount of Manu's tips is directly proportional to the level of service he recieves.

[leemajors]

Memo to Manny : The amount of Manu's tips is directly proportional to the level of service he recieves.

less than 20% is totally unacceptable unless it is the worst service you have ever received. most of those people are making less than 4 bucks an hour.

[Kamnik]

Uh, ok communism is fantastic.

Pay everyone the same amount of money.


Ive been served alright. :rolleyes


Im soooooo scared.


Socialism, communism, same ideals.

Everyone should get the same, top to bottom, if your rich sahem on you, same ideals.


a lot of people in europe see americans as ignorant and not very smart

it is because of people like you

you know shit about communism or socialism

people like me and slomo lived through comunism, socialism and now capitalism and believe me some things today are much worse for a lot of people that they used to be (not all)

[Pero]

:lol @ at this thread, and that it almost caused a world war 3 :lol

[strangeweather]

Again I understand that people can make good money (although I'm sure it doesn't apply to the majority) but why is it the only industry where the customer is directly influencing the salary of the employees? If it's so great why not apply it to everyone, and if it sucks why not change it? Again I do not undestand why the exception.

Tips tend to be given out (to varying degrees) to workers in businesses where direct personal service is an important component, but not in businesses where it is not. So it's normal to tip the person who cuts your hair or drives your taxi, but unusual to tip the people who build your house or scans your groceries at the supermarket.

And people who the customer never sees, such as the engineer who designed your mobile phone, have no real way to work on tips. However (if it was designed in the U.S.), he might have a bonus structure from his employer that pays him more if his products sell well or the company does well in general.

In general, the US economy tends to believe in paying incentives for doing your job well, either individually or as a team. The theory is that this encourages productivity in employees, and discourages people from slacking off.

[Hook Dem]

Oh and to be fair, tipping in the US usually does ensure that you get a decent wage for the services you do. There are times however, when you do get stiffed and it simply pisses you off. Especially when people working these jobs for the most part are college students who can't afford to have someone's bad day to translate to a shitty payday.

If you ever work in a position where you work for tips, you never tip badly again.
Been there! Done that! I agree with you Manny!

[Cant_Be_Faded]

LOL manny youre commercialness has reached a new level of power

[~Sweetmelody~]

Bump.

If Manu doesn't come to play tonight, I'm calling that bitch a cheap motherfucker everytime he touches the ball.


I remember reading that question on his board and also read his response, never thought it was a fellow spurstalk member :lol

p.s.
I also couldn't believe someone would ask him that! LOL