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Mr. Peabody
09-25-2008, 08:27 PM
Senator Richard Shelby, the ranking Republican on the Banking Committee just said on The Rachel Maddow Show that he hadn't heard from John McCain all week.

Today we also had John McCain's own revelation that he hadn't read the Paulson plan as late as yesterday.

Does it really sound as if the bailout plan is his top concern right now?

Shastafarian
09-25-2008, 08:30 PM
He was busy formulating this


KATIE COURIC: And, Bob, I understand that John McCain actually floated an alternative plan. What can you tell us about that?

BOB ORR We're told at the White House Senator McCain offered an alternative plan that would include fewer regulations and more corporate tax breaks for businesses, kind of a private solution. But we're also told those ideas angered and surprised Democrats like banking chairman Chris Dodd who now says he thinks the White House summit was more of a political stunt for McCain.

Biernutz
09-25-2008, 08:32 PM
Obama said "they don't need me"--- Hussein you are right they don't . You will vote "present " anyway.

Shastafarian
09-25-2008, 08:34 PM
Obama said "they don't need me"--- Hussein you are right they don't . You will vote "present " anyway.

Do you contribute anything to a discussion other than Republican talking points? Maybe you should ask McCain how many votes he's missed in the 110th congress. I'll give you a hint. It's way more than Obama.

Back on topic:

I hear Dodd isn't the only one who isn't happy about McCain's proposal.

Anti.Hero
09-25-2008, 08:34 PM
Man how the fuck did McCain win the rep nomination LOL

I'm still wondering this shit.

ChumpDumper
09-25-2008, 08:35 PM
McCain hasn't voted in the Senate since April.

Do they need him?

boutons_
09-25-2008, 08:35 PM
McWorse admitted a couple days ago that he hadn't even read Paulsen's document.

johnsmith
09-25-2008, 08:36 PM
McWorse admitted a couple days ago that he hadn't even read Paulsen's document.

And Boutons admitted that he doesn't read any other posts besides his own just a few minutes ago.

Open your eyes jackass, other people post too.

Aggie Hoopsfan
09-25-2008, 08:44 PM
KATIE COURIC: And, Bob, I understand that John McCain actually floated an alternative plan. What can you tell us about that?

BOB ORR We're told at the White House Senator McCain offered an alternative plan that would include fewer regulations and more corporate tax breaks for businesses, kind of a private solution. But we're also told those ideas angered and surprised Democrats like banking chairman Chris Dodd who now says he thinks the White House summit was more of a political stunt for McCain.

Hmm, let's see, tax breaks for corporations to buy the Wall Street firms at what the market dictates as market value. Lot more capitalistic than the financial socialism the bailout plan is based on.

ChumpDumper
09-25-2008, 08:50 PM
So why didn't McCain fly into DC earlier and present his plan in congress while they were discussing it?

Biernutz
09-25-2008, 08:56 PM
So why didn't McCain fly into DC earlier and present his plan in congress while they were discussing it?

Where is Obama's plan?

ChumpDumper
09-25-2008, 08:56 PM
So why didn't McCain fly into DC earlier and present his plan in congress while they were discussing it?

ChumpDumper
09-25-2008, 09:01 PM
Where is Obama's plan?Is it not the one that was agreed to in principal before McCain tried to derail it?

Biernutz
09-25-2008, 09:04 PM
Is it not the one that was agreed to in principal before McCain tried to derail it?

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ChumpDumper
09-25-2008, 09:07 PM
http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb270/systime/SMILEYS%20%20222/ththhahano.gifWhat do you mean? Obama never stated any opposition to the bailout in general principal, he just wanted more oversight and accountability than Bush proposed. So, please produce evidence of his opposition to the general idea of the bailout or just be content in being wrong.

Biernutz
09-25-2008, 09:12 PM
What do you mean? Obama never stated any opposition to the bailout in general principal, he just wanted more oversight and accountability than Bush proposed. So, please produce evidence of his opposition to the general idea of the bailout or just be content in being wrong.


McCain came back to DC to get involved in the process. There was no deal and liberal press is trying to hang it on him that it failed. Obama said they didn't need him and he was staying in Florida. Who cares the most?

hitmanyr2k
09-25-2008, 09:12 PM
So why didn't McCain fly into DC earlier and present his plan in congress while they were discussing it?

Didn't you hear? He suspended his campaign...which means he had to do a few interviews, have a few photo-ops, tell Palin to go play with her dolls, the usual.

ChumpDumper
09-25-2008, 09:14 PM
McCain came back to DC to get involved in the process.McCain stayed in New York while the process happened in congress. He showed up later for the photo op.

Biernutz
09-25-2008, 09:15 PM
McCain stayed in New York while the process happened in congress. He showed up later for the photo op.

Obama in Florida! studying ---

Shastafarian
09-25-2008, 09:15 PM
McCain came back to DC to get involved in the process. There was no deal and liberal press is trying to hang it on him that it failed. Obama said they didn't need him and he was staying in Florida. Who cares the most?

You're wrong. The deal was in place before McCain got back to DC. They discussed it this morning in congress. Then they had their little meeting in the White House. Somewhere in there the House Republicans came back and said they wouldn't even negotiate on the bill that was thought to have been the final one. They wanted NEW things in the bill and it seems as though McCain has had some influence on Lindsey Graham to have Graham oppose the bill that the Bush Administration and the house democrats have put forth. The House Republicans are putting a hold to discussions over what Paulson himself said, "won't work". It's all happening pretty fast but it seems as though the Republicans are refusing to sit down and discuss.

Biernutz
09-25-2008, 09:18 PM
You're wrong. The deal was in place before McCain got back to DC. They discussed it this morning in congress. Then they had their little meeting in the White House. Somewhere in there the House Republicans came back and said they wouldn't even negotiate on the bill that was thought to have been the final one. They wanted NEW things in the bill and it seems as though McCain has had some influence on Lindsey Graham to have Graham oppose the bill that the Bush Administration and the house democrats have put forth. The House Republicans are putting a hold to discussions over what Paulson himself said, "won't work". It's all happening pretty fast but it seems as though the Republicans are refusing to sit down and discuss.

They are meeting right now. they just said it on TV. They will continue to meet till the hack it out.

ChumpDumper
09-25-2008, 09:20 PM
Obama in Florida! studying ---McCain hadn't even read the Bush proposal.

Really, why didn't McCain show up in the meetings this morning after declaring an emergency?

ChumpDumper
09-25-2008, 09:23 PM
I apologize for characterizing the Republicans' plan as McCain's plan. He has nothing to do with it.

Shastafarian
09-25-2008, 09:26 PM
I apologize for characterizing the Republicans' plan as McCain's plan. He has nothing to do with it.

Probably not but Barney Frank made it seem like McCain said something to Lindsey Graham that got Graham to do a 180.


They are meeting right now. they just said it on TV. They will continue to meet till the hack it out.

Um I thought they just left. Where did you see this?

Biernutz
09-25-2008, 09:27 PM
McCain hadn't even read the Bush proposal.

Really, why didn't McCain show up in the meetings this morning after declaring an emergency?

The Democrats or the Republicans are writing their own bail out bill. How much of the Bush proposal do you think they are using. McCain was briefed on the proposal. If they reach an agreement McCain will be at the debate. He does not need to study!

They just stopped meeting --will come back tomorrow. FOXNEWS--

ChumpDumper
09-25-2008, 09:29 PM
The Democrats or the Republicans are writing their own bail out bill. How much of the Bush proposal do you think they are using. McCain was briefed on the proposal. If they reach an agreement McCain will be at the debate. He does not need to study!Bush's proposal was three pages long, idiot.

Biernutz
09-25-2008, 09:36 PM
Bush's proposal was three pages long, idiot.

So what? no one is using it anyway. Jerk!!

ChumpDumper
09-25-2008, 09:37 PM
So what? no one is using anyway. Jerk!!Using what?

What an odd meltdown.

Biernutz
09-25-2008, 09:38 PM
Using what?

What an odd meltdown.


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Shastafarian
09-25-2008, 09:40 PM
So what? no one is using it anyway. Jerk!!

They claimed they did use Paulson's plan. They just added things that were necessary that the republicans are now against.

ChumpDumper
09-25-2008, 09:47 PM
Of course Paulson's plan was the basis for the bailout talks today. Only an idiot would say otherwise.

Das Texan
09-25-2008, 10:39 PM
McCain couldnt have read the Bush plan for the bailout while taking a shit anytime earlier this week?


Give me a break John. Your desperate act is wearing thin.

boutons_
09-25-2008, 10:51 PM
Barney Frank: GOP Colleagues Winced At 'Mighty Mouse' McCain

One would think that some of John McCain's Republican colleagues might actually want to help him become president of these United States, but no: given the opportunity to ensure that the presidential candidate might be able to make a substantive contribution to bailout measure negotiations, McCain's friends in the Republican Party put their noses to the grindstone and worked out a deal without any Maverick input. Clearly Republican leaders are totally in the tank for Obama.

How painful was the thought of working alongside McCain? Over at Politico (http://www.politico.com/blogs/thecrypt/0908/Frank_Republicans_winced_when_McCain_was_mentioned _in_meeting.html?showall), they report that Barney Frank minced few words, saying:
"Nobody mentioned him. The man's irrelevant to the whole process. No Republican mentioned his name. I'm the only one who raised his name. They winced when I did."

Frank also compared McCain to a cartoon superhero:
"He's been irrelevant to the process. He remains to be," said Frank. "I was afraid that his dropping in here, like Andy Kaufman's Mighty Mouse -- 'here I am to save the day' -- I thought that would slow things down. I didn't see any sign of our Republican colleagues paying any attention to him whatsoever."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/25/barney-frank-gop-colleagu_n_129322.html?view=print

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How's the "My-campaign-suspended-to-Save-America" working out, McRidicule? :lol

And will you cave in and show up in Mississippi to "debate" with the pre-school-comp-sex-ed Muslim Terrorist? :lol

Ya Vez
09-26-2008, 12:13 AM
McCain Key To Bailout's Future?

Media reports indicate congressional Democrats and Republicans alike are anxiously looking to Sen. John McCain for cues on his stance on the financial bailout package. Stories suggest the GOP nominee's stance on the legislation could prove decisive to its passage. ABC World News, for example, reported McCain "may hold the fate of the $700 billion bailout proposal in his hands. Even with Vice President Dick Cheney lobbying hard for the bill today, top congressional Republicans say if McCain does not support the bill, it will likely die" and "Democratic leaders have told the White House a deal without McCain on board will mean no sale. They say they fear McCain will, quote, 'demagogue' the bill and Democrats on the campaign trail." Roll Call adds, "According to a Democratic aide familiar with the discussions," Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid told Treasury Secretary Paulson "this week that 'if McCain didn't come out for this thing and come out for it quickly, it was going to begin bleeding Republican votes.' Democrats 'have a very real concern that opposition [from McCain] is going to drive away potential Republican votes,' this aide said."

However, there are conflicting signs in the media on the level of McCain's support for the package. The AP reported McCain "hinted he might vote against" the bill yesterday, calling the price tag "staggering." However, The Hill reports Reid "announced" that McCain would support the package, saying last night, "I got some good news in the last hour or so ... it appears that Sen. McCain is going to come out for this." The Wall Street Journal reports that in a Q&A session with reporters after an appearance in Freeland, Michigan, McCain "declined to say if he saw any deal-breakers that could force him to vote against the proposal. He said that Democrats in Congress waiting to see if he would support the legislation should instead focus on the nature of the financial crisis and not worry about his vote."

http://www.usnews.com/usnews/politics/bulletin/bulletin_080924.htm

ChumpDumper
09-26-2008, 12:17 AM
It's good that McCain is so forthright in stating his position on the bailout.

Straight talk.

Mr. Peabody
09-26-2008, 08:25 AM
On Morning Joe today -


Joe Scarborough: You're the ranking Republican on the Senate Banking Committee and know this stuff better than anyone.... Has John McCain called you in the last week or so?

Senator Richard Shelby: No.

Ya Vez
09-26-2008, 10:13 AM
It's good that McCain is so forthright in stating his position on the bailout.

Straight talk.

well I guess his position is FUCK NO!! on the bailout..

haven't you figured it out... :lol

RandomGuy
09-26-2008, 10:15 AM
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Today we also had John McCain's own revelation that he hadn't read the Paulson plan as late as yesterday.

Seriously?

The thing is 3 pages long.

All I can say is: FUCK.

If I had harbored any lingering doubts about voting or not voting for the Guy, that would have sealed it, especially given the noise he has been making about suspending his campaign to have more time to "deal" with the crisis.

RandomGuy
09-26-2008, 10:20 AM
McCain couldnt have read the Bush plan for the bailout while taking a shit anytime earlier this week?



Seriously.

(begin unfair attack)

Maybe someone just emailed it to him and it was sitting in his inbox. :lmao

(end unfair attack)

clambake
09-26-2008, 10:21 AM
he has a phone.

he pretended to be on it when he was rushing past reporters.

MannyIsGod
09-26-2008, 11:35 AM
well I guess his position is FUCK NO!! on the bailout..

haven't you figured it out... :lol

Thats not his position.