Debate is on!

[florige]

http://www.cnn.com/

[clambake]

what a tool......wait.....where have i heard that?

[boutons_]

So McSenile's tactic flops.

HUSSEIN calls his bluff, McWorse is ridiculed for calling an TIMEOUT while the other team keeps on playing.

YET ANOTHER bad week for McLiar.

He can top the week off tonight by losing or tying.

(he doesn't campaign on weekends, too old and tired).

Even a win won't save his sorry ass.

[Mr. Peabody]

My apologies, I didn't see this thread.


CNN's Dana Bash was reporting that the McCain campaign wants to get McCain out of DC because there is a perception in the media that he is stalling, rather than encouraging, progress during the bailout discussions.

[florige]

I wonder if he will look as bad as Nixon did. :lol

[Mr. Peabody]

I wonder if he will look as bad as Nixon did. :lol

If he does, he should get his $5,000 back....


EXCLUSIVE: John McCain Uses Idol Makeup Artist!
WEDNESDAY SEPTEMBER 24, 2008
August 16, 2008
AP Photo/Mary Altaffer
Buzz up!

John McCain, whose ads skewer Barack Obama for his "celebrity" status, has his own close ties to show business, the new issue of Us Weekly reports exclusively.

The 72-year-old was recently made TV-ready by makeup artist Tifanie White who's worked on So You Think You Can Dance and American Idol.

McCain paid the 2002 beauty-school grad $5,583.43 for her services, according to the Federal Election Commission.

[Oh, Gee!!]

on fox they were predicting he'd enter the debate tonite looking like a hero for saving our economy. don't hold your breath.

[Mr. Peabody]

on fox they were predicting he'd enter the debate tonite looking like a hero for saving our economy. don't hold your breath.

He could shit his pants and Fox would say he looked like a hero for promoting a high-fiber diet.

[101A]

McCain paid the 2002 beauty-school grad $5,583.43 for her services,

Now THAT could have been a great story in a different context.

[Mr. Peabody]

Now THAT could have been a great story in a different context.

I don't know that she's worth $5,000 for such services....:lol

http://www.usmagazine.com/files/john-mccain-b.jpg

[florige]

He could shit his pants and Fox would say he looked like a hero for promoting a high-fiber diet.



:lmao:rollin

[Yonivore]

He could shit his pants and Fox would say he looked like a hero for promoting a high-fiber diet.
That is funny, peabody. Nice going.

I hope McCain takes Obama to school this evening... :toast

[Shastafarian]

I hope McCain takes Obama to school this evening... :toast

Maybe he'll say he hopes for 0% interest rates again :lmao

[Mr. Peabody]

I hope McCain takes Obama to school this evening... :toast

I'm hoping that the economy is front and center tonight, but we'll see. I'm sure both campaigns want Lehrer to stick to national security issues as much as possible. Maybe we'll still get one or two questions about the economy.

[DarrinS]

Obama will kill McCain in the debates.

He's great when he's just "wingin it".


omHUsRTYFAU

cOTfnz11kBk

RkLLpzKz67I

[boutons_]

Leaked: John McCain's Debate Reminders to Himself


http://www.236.com/blog/w/lee_camp/leaked_john_mccains_debate_rem_9143.php

[spurster]

Score first point to Obama. McCain tried to get out in front on the bailout, but then couldn't pick a side for or against.

[ploto]

I think that people have a preconceived notion that McCain is so much better at foreign affairs that when he isn't tonight, he will look like the loser in the debate. Kind of like how Bush scored points against Gore simply because he was not as bad as people thought he would be.

[florige]

I think this is the best thing for McCain. He is falling behind fast and a good showing tonight can at least stop the bleeding some. This has been a horrible couple of weeks for McCain, and the thing is Obama hasn't even said much.

[cool hand]

they better bring up the bailout.

[MannyIsGod]

I'm hoping that the economy is front and center tonight, but we'll see. I'm sure both campaigns want Lehrer to stick to national security issues as much as possible. Maybe we'll still get one or two questions about the economy.

:lmao what?

It doesnt' even matter what the questions are, the candidates are going to interject the economy themselves. I doubt they would be anything less than happy if Lehrer did it for them.

[Milton.]

That is funny, peabody. Nice going.

I hope McCain takes Obama to school this evening... :toast


Will he make him sit in the back of the bus?

[boutons_]

Tonight's beauty/style contest could seal the deal for either canditate.

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What to Look For in Tonight’s Debate


By Katharine Q. Seelye (http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/author/katharine-q-seelye/) Senator John McCain announced this morning that he would participate in the first presidential debate, so preparations for the event at the University of Mississippi in Oxford continued.

Tonight’s debate should offer a striking contrast in substance and style as Senator Barack Obama and Senator John McCain face off in their first formal debate of the general election.

The encounter is scheduled to start at 9 p.m. Eastern time, at the University of Mississippi, and run until 10:30 p.m.

Mr. McCain announced (http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/09/26/debate-is-on/) that he will attend the debate tonight, ending several days of confusion as to whether the event would take place. We’ll be be live blogging tonight.

Now that the question of whether the debate will happen at all has been answered, here are some other things to consider as those 90 minutes unfold:

Both will be contending with the sheer visual impact of their standing side by side for their first formal encounter while millions of viewers take their measure.

Mr. McCain, 72, will try to avoid looking and sounding too old; Mr. Obama, 47, will try to avoid looking and sounding too young.
Both will be adjusting their internal thermostats. Mr. Obama can be too cool, Mr. McCain too hot. Look for both to seek their inner Goldilocks.

Mr. Obama will try to overcome the impression he left during his long series of the primary debates against Senator Hillary Clinton that he is hesitant and overly nuanced. Look for him to take an early opportunity to signal that he is forceful and yet entirely presidential.

Mr. McCain, on the other hand, had a tendency during his primaries to squabble, sometimes harshly, with his opponents. Although he has “crossed the aisle” more frequently than Mr. Obama to work with the opposite party, he can also be a more fierce partisan, which is not something viewers like. Look for him to dial it back.

Still, Mr. McCain may try to ratchet up the pre-debate head game that he began when he astounded the political world and said he wanted to delay the long-scheduled debate.

A gambler by nature, and a more tactical debater than Mr. Obama, Mr. McCain took a high-stakes risk in trying to seize control of the debate two days ahead of time and throw Mr. Obama off-balance. It will be interesting to see how that dynamic plays out tonight and how far Mr. McCain takes that kind of brinksmanship.

The assigned topic for tonight is foreign policy. But it seems virtually impossible to conduct this debate without discussing the economic meltdown, which is sending ripples of panic across the country.
If the moderator, Jim Lehrer of P.B.S., doesn’t want to lose control of the evening, he will probably bring up the economy immediately; if he doesn’t, watch to see which candidate thinks he has the upper hand and brings it up first.

Mr. Obama will surely try to link Mr. McCain early and often to President Bush, for what he sees as the mismanagement of both the economy and the war in Iraq. Expect him in short order to revive Mr. McCain’s recent statement that the fundamentals of the economy are sound.

At the same time, Mr. McCain will play to his strength, which is that voters see him as a more plausible commander-in-chief. He will try to transfer that leadership quality to his dramatic self-portrayal as a rescuer of the economy, although there is little evidence that he has been instrumental in the negotiations so far.

On Iraq, he will almost certainly try to corner Mr. Obama into admitting that the surge in troops — which Mr. McCain has championed — was successful.

Mr. Obama had been reluctant to do so, but he said earlier this month that the surge had succeeded “beyond our wildest dreams.” That has paved the way for him to be able to say tonight that he has already acknowledged the benefits of the surge and to try to shift the focus to the fact that Iraq is still not self-sufficient.

Mr. McCain, of course, casts Mr. Obama as raising the white flag of surrender and says he is ill-equipped to lead the country in a time of peril.

This discussion is likely lead to one of the central stalemates between the two candidates. Watch to see if Mr. Lehrer can move these candidates beyond their well-trod differences.

Not everyone is expecting sparks tonight. Ross Baker, a political scientist at Rutgers, advises viewers not to expect the proverbial knock-out blow.

Despite some famous examples from history, truly decisive moments in debates are few and far between.

“These candidates are very well prepped,” he says. “They are two self-possessed people, so the idea that one of them will blurt out some awful indiscretion or appear to be gobsmacked by the other is really unlikely.”

What is more probable, he says, is that viewers will be guided by subtle cues.

“They’ll be watching the body language, the presentation, the tone of voice, the gestures,” he says. “They’ll be watching for McCain to borrow some of Obama’s academic approach and for Obama to find a little more of McCain’s fire.”



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[Dude]

If anyone still needs the outcome of tonight's debate to determine who to vote for they are flaky bastards.

[Mr. Peabody]

:lmao what?

It doesnt' even matter what the questions are, the candidates are going to interject the economy themselves. I doubt they would be anything less than happy if Lehrer did it for them.

You think. Obviously, I want them to talk about the economy, but I know that these events are tightly scripted and the topics have been negotiated by campaign attorneys months in advance.

I was listening to NPR and they had Bernard Show on and he was talking about the various presidential debates he moderated (including the one where Shaw asked Dukakis if he would favor the death penalty if his wife Kitty was raped and murdered). Shaw said that the topics are tightly controlled by the campaigns and that the moderators have little discretion on the topics or questions that can be asked.

So, while I'd like them to discuss the economy the entire time, I'm wondering whether we'll get a full discussion from both candidates or whether they will hit on the economy as part of a larger discussion about national security.

[MannyIsGod]

We'll see, but I see this being a foreign policy debate in name only. I promise you if you take a drink for each time a candidate pivots to an economy answer regardless of the question you'll end up quite drunk.

[Yonivore]

We'll see, but I see this being a foreign policy debate in name only. I promise you if you take a drink for each time a candidate pivots to an economy answer regardless of the question you'll end up quite drunk.
We'll see.

I don't think Obama has the balls to debate foreign policy -- for which his record is abysmal -- with McCain so, you could be right -- on his part.

Obama will look like he's avoiding foreign policy if he's always changing the subject to the economy. And, if McCain counters with economically-focused responses -- it disproves that he's weak on economic issues. One, having the Democrat view of McCain, would expect McCain to try and keep the debate on foreign policy issues.

So, again, we'll see.

[pickle girl]

I know that these events are tightly scripted


So really we are just going to watch another reality tv show?

[clambake]

i won't be able to see the debates tonight.

[Yonivore]

i won't be able to see the debates tonight.
Like we give a fuck.

[boutons_]

"flaky bastards."

America is rotten with them.

Millions still believe Saddam did WTC,

millions believe HUSSEIN is a Muslim,

millions still say after HUSSEIN's long campaigning, ads, books, that they still don't "know" him

[Lance]

I don't think Obama has the balls .


I wouldn't talk about balls after the all the ducking your Ensure drinking McShame has been doing.

[Mr. Peabody]

We'll see, but I see this being a foreign policy debate in name only. I promise you if you take a drink for each time a candidate pivots to an economy answer regardless of the question you'll end up quite drunk.

I was planning on taking a drink each time McCain says "my friends" or Obama says "ahhh" or "ummm", but your game will work just as well and probably save me from certain alcohol poisoning.

[clambake]

Like we give a fuck.

=wheels coming off.

[Lance]

Like we give a fuck.

That's the problems with the Bush lovers they just don't give a shit.

[Yonivore]

=wheels coming off.
=stupid.

[Yonivore]

That's the problems with the Bush lovers they just don't give a shit.
You care if clambake watches the debate tonight?

[clambake]

=stupid.

are you mad that i keep mentioning your paralyzing fear of black people?

aren't you supposed to be about straight talk?

[Yonivore]

are you mad that i keep mentioning your paralyzing fear of black people?
Nope. Can't help that you don't know what you're talking about. Have fun with it, though. Besides, I don't waste those types of emotions on internet forums.


aren't you supposed to be about straight talk?
You'll get nothing but.

[clambake]

Nope. Can't help that you don't know what you're talking about. Have fun with it, though. Besides, I don't waste those types of emotions on internet forums.
you know, your fear of gas stations with dark skin.



You'll get nothing but.
then why don't you recall the story so i don't mess it up?:lol

[Lance]

You care if clambake watches the debate tonight?

Not really, but to cuss at him only shows other posters my lack of class.

[Steve Perry]

I don't remember ever seeing Yonni this upset, this debate must be a painful thing to watch.

[CubanMustGo]

=stupid.

No, that would be Palin. Try to stay on topic, this thread's about McCain.