The Oilers amazing start...

[remingtonbo2001]

Err, I mean Tennessee Titans.

Surprisingly, without Vince Young.

[dirk4mvp]

Err, I mean Tennessee Titans.

Surprisingly, without Vince Young.


surprisingly? :lol

There's a reason why they're this good early on.

[slayermin]

That defense of theirs is something else. It seems like someone, every week ,is making plays for them.

[remingtonbo2001]

That defense of theirs is something else. It seems like someone, every week ,is making plays for them.

Imagine if they somehow managed to keep Pacman.

[Obstructed_View]

That defense of theirs is something else. It seems like someone, every week ,is making plays for them.

That's true. As long as Kerry Collins doesn't have to try to win games for them they're going to be good. Jeff Fisher is underappreciated.

[Trainwreck2100]

surprisingly?

[Slinkyman]

The jacksonville win is solid but the other 3 teams they've played are 1-10. Not exactly tough competition.

[IronMexican]

Imagine if they somehow managed to keep Pacman.

Is Pacman even doing anything in Dallas? I never felt like he lived up to that #1 pick in Tennessee, and taking one year off didn't help him.

[Slinkyman]

Is Pacman even doing anything in Dallas? I never felt like he lived up to that #1 pick in Tennessee, and taking one year off didn't help him.

well today he had one tackle and 3 punt returns for 4 yards so yeah, big time impact player. Imagine if the Titans had that!

[IronMexican]

Lol, I said #1 pick. I meant #6

[K-State Spur]

Imagine if they somehow managed to keep Pacman.

he'll do fine as the nickel in dallas if he behaves himself...

but if not for the nickname 'pacman', his legal transgressions, and a few flashy plays, nobody would know his name based on his play in Tennessee.

he's good when he's on, but he's not a shutdown corner or anything.

[Slinkyman]

he'll do fine as the nickel in dallas if he behaves himself...

but if not for the nickname 'pacman', his legal transgressions, and a few flashy plays, nobody would know his name based on his play in Tennessee.

he's good when he's on, but he's not a shutdown corner or anything.

Are you saying he's a celebrity corner back? he goes perfect with their celebrity quarter back.

[Hank the Tank]

Person A: "Dude, Vince Young sucks."
Person B: "No he doesn't."
A: "Look at his stats! Horrible!"
B: "The most important stat is wins, and that is where VY delivers! There is a reason why he was on the cover of Madden."

Hmmm....Kerry Collins is a beast too I guess...

[Obstructed_View]

Is Pacman even doing anything in Dallas? I never felt like he lived up to that #1 pick in Tennessee, and taking one year off didn't help him.

Yeah, he's fitting right in with Henry and Newman, stinking up the joint and making Cowboys fan long for the days when an effective Roy Williams roamed the defensive backfield.

[remingtonbo2001]

Pacman played well during his 1st year with the Titans.

However, that's all I have to base my opinion on, which really isn't much.

I can't speak about his perfermance with the Boys.

And yes, I say surprisingly more so because they are performing well with Kerry Collins at the helm. I guarantee you if VY had been starting during this win streak, the media would have started hailing him as the next great QB. Okay, that's taking it completely overboard, but you get my point.

[dirk4mvp]

And yes, I say surprisingly more so because they are performing well with Kerry Collins at the helm. I guarantee you if VY had been starting during this win streak, the media would have started hailing him as the next great QB. Okay, that's taking it completely overboard, but you get my point.

That's probably because Collins >> Young. The Titans wouldn't be experiencing this success with Young starting.

[monosylab1k]

Yeah Kerry Collins is really lighting it up :rolleyes

Maybe the fact that they have one other playmaker on offense is the reason things are looking better. Vince got one half of Chris Johnson's first game to work with him, and that's it. We'll see how he looks now that he's got someone he can depend on, and not fuckheads like Roydell Williams.

This team is not capable of winning a Super Bowl with Kerry Collins at QB, so if they want a shot, they better work Vince in as soon as they can.

[johnsmith]

Yeah Kerry Collins is really lighting it up :rolleyes

Maybe the fact that they have one other playmaker on offense is the reason things are looking better. Vince got one half of Chris Johnson's first game to work with him, and that's it. We'll see how he looks now that he's got someone he can depend on, and not fuckheads like Roydell Williams.

This team is not capable of winning a Super Bowl with Kerry Collins at QB, so if they want a shot, they better work Vince in as soon as they can.

I know this beats a dead horse, but the Ravens won a super bowl with a lights out defense and a very Kerry Collinsish type of a quarterback.

[Extra Stout]

This team is not capable of winning a Super Bowl with Kerry Collins at QB, so if they want a shot, they better work Vince in as soon as they can.
The problem with that is, unfortunately, all objective evidence points to Kerry Collins being a better quarterback than Vince Young. VY's career in Tennessee is probably already over.

[stretch]

Yeah Kerry Collins is really lighting it up :rolleyes

Maybe the fact that they have one other playmaker on offense is the reason things are looking better. Vince got one half of Chris Johnson's first game to work with him, and that's it. We'll see how he looks now that he's got someone he can depend on, and not fuckheads like Roydell Williams.

This team is not capable of winning a Super Bowl with Kerry Collins at QB, so if they want a shot, they better work Vince in as soon as they can.

lol, fuckheads

[stretch]

as for my input...

i think this is an absolutely fantastic, physical defense. i think if they get another weapon or two on offense, and just let VY do his thing, they could be a potential dynasty, considering how young they still are, and their defense is this fucking good. they can still get to the SB this year, IMO. but with Collins, I dont think they can beat teams like the Cowboys or Eagles. Possibly not even the Giants, as they are looking quite good themselves (much better than i expected anyways)

[monosylab1k]

The problem with that is, unfortunately, all objective evidence points to Kerry Collins being a better quarterback than Vince Young. VY's career in Tennessee is probably already over.

Now we have the dumb opinion.

[monosylab1k]

I guess we can just hand the league MVP trophy over to Collins right now, seeing how he's playing like such a shit-kicker.

[johnsmith]

VY is starting but playing poorly and the Titans win............VY is a winner.


Kerry Collins is starting but playing average and the Titans win.............It's because of the defense.


LOL

[monosylab1k]

VY is starting but playing poorly and the Titans win............VY is a winner.


Kerry Collins is starting but playing average and the Titans win.............It's because of the defense.


LOL

No, it's because Kerry Collins is God.

[Extra Stout]

Now we have the dumb opinion.
Head to head: VY vs. KC

Cries like a little girl because playing in the NFL is hard:
VY: Yes
KC: No

Tells people he might commit suicide because not everybody in Nashville kisses his ass anymore:
VY: Yes
KC: No

Can't handle the adversity in that the game does not come easily to him anymore like it did in college:
VY: Yes
KC: No

Doesn't find any fun in the game and wants to quit if he can't be the hero:
VY: Yes
KC: No

Has to have his mommy step in for him and fend off the media:
VY: Yes
KC: No

The dumb opinion would be to keep gumballing VY after he has a nervous breakdown because he fails to handle the pressure every other starting QB in the NFL has to deal with. He's basically turning into Ryan Leaf, only with less screaming and more whimpering.

[Extra Stout]

P.S. Kerry Collins is mediocre at best. But "mediocre" is better than "pathetic cringe-inducing train wreck," i.e., Vince Young.

[dirk4mvp]

Collins may not be god or even that good of a football player, but I'd rather give him credit than that sorry excuse for a qb from Texas.

[stretch]

VY is starting but playing poorly and the Titans win............VY is a winner.


Kerry Collins is starting but playing average and the Titans win.............It's because of the defense.


LOL

I think the general consensus has been exactly the opposite.

lol broncos

[Dirk Nowitzki]

Titans D is another great example on how they know how to utilize their talent. You dont see them playing 10-12 yards off receivers. Take notes Phillips/Stewart.

[remingtonbo2001]

The dumb opinion would be to keep gumballing VY after he has a nervous breakdown because he fails to handle the pressure every other starting QB in the NFL has to deal with. He's basically turning into Ryan Leaf, only with less screaming and more whimpering.

Ryan Leaf? REALLY?!? :lol

You just lost your credibility ES.

[dirk4mvp]

Err, I mean Tennessee Titans.

Surprisingly, without Vince Young.



I wouldn't question ES's credibility when you think the Titans would be this good with Young taking snaps.

[Merrill Hoge]

Good thing we all can agree that Vince Young is the worst QB in football history. He's also the most disgusting human being to ever live.

[monosylab1k]

Head to head: VY vs. KC

Cries like a little girl because playing in the NFL is hard:
VY: Yes
KC: No

Tells people he might commit suicide because not everybody in Nashville kisses his ass anymore:
VY: Yes
KC: No

Can't handle the adversity in that the game does not come easily to him anymore like it did in college:
VY: Yes
KC: No

Doesn't find any fun in the game and wants to quit if he can't be the hero:
VY: Yes
KC: No

Has to have his mommy step in for him and fend off the media:
VY: Yes
KC: No

The dumb opinion would be to keep gumballing VY after he has a nervous breakdown because he fails to handle the pressure every other starting QB in the NFL has to deal with. He's basically turning into Ryan Leaf, only with less screaming and more whimpering.

Told his coach he wanted to quit on the team

VY: No
KC: Yes

Alcoholic

VY: No
KC: Yes

Racist

VY: No
KC: Yes

The dumb opinion is basing everything on one incident that the head coach even said was blown completely out of proportion. You have no idea what Vince really said or did. But we DO have proof of Kerry Collins publicly quitting on his team.

Just so you know, I will accept your apology and admission of having a stupid opinion when Vince gets his starting job back.

[stretch]

Told his coach he wanted to quit on the team

VY: No
KC: Yes

Alcoholic

VY: No
KC: Yes

Racist

VY: No
KC: Yes


I don't recall that instance. What happened with that?

[monosylab1k]

I don't recall that instance. What happened with that?

Kerry Collins used to be a big fan of the n word. I'll find the article.

[IronMexican]

I don't recall that instance. What happened with that?

It's true. I remember he had his redemption story during the Superbowl(Which the Raiders would have been in, if it wasn't for fat ass Siragusa)

[stretch]

It's true. I remember he had his redemption story during the Superbowl(Which the Raiders would have been in, if it wasn't for fat ass Siragusa)

Fuck Tony Siragusa. Two straight years of the Raiders being bullshitted out of a Super Bowl, followed up with Al Davis getting rid of Gruden when they almost certainly would have won the SB that year had they kept him. Ugh... :depressed

[IronMexican]

Yeah, that 3 year stretch was painful. Especially 2002, we would have fucking beat the Steelers, then the Rams.

[ATRAIN]

Head to head: VY vs. KC

Cries like a little girl because playing in the NFL is hard:
VY: Yes
KC: No

Tells people he might commit suicide because not everybody in Nashville kisses his ass anymore:
VY: Yes
KC: No

Can't handle the adversity in that the game does not come easily to him anymore like it did in college:
VY: Yes
KC: No

Doesn't find any fun in the game and wants to quit if he can't be the hero:
VY: Yes
KC: No

Has to have his mommy step in for him and fend off the media:
VY: Yes
KC: No

The dumb opinion would be to keep gumballing VY after he has a nervous breakdown because he fails to handle the pressure every other starting QB in the NFL has to deal with. He's basically turning into Ryan Leaf, only with less screaming and more whimpering.



THE VY man love will never die im afraid. VY was a winner in college, in the pros not so much. That defense and Chris Johnson are the reason for the success.

[remingtonbo2001]

THE VY man love will never die im afraid. VY was a winner in college, in the pros not so much. That defense and Chris Johnson are the reason for the success.

VY man love?

Let's refrain from ignorance.

I merely made a statment, which was taken completely out of proportion.

The Ryan Leaf comment took everything to a new stratosphere.

Whether you would like to admit it or not, VY has had some success in the NFL. No, I'm not implying it's been entirely roses and daisies. However, I believe there's still potential to be tapped.

[Spuradicator]

Vince or no Vince, the AFC goes through Tennesse.

[remingtonbo2001]

Bump.

I must say, I've been impressed with Collins.

[stretch]

Bump.

I must say, I've been impressed with Collins.

I'm not. He sucks.

If Vince would just have the green light to run once he sees an open lane, I don't think they realize how much simpler it will make the offense since the defense will have adjust to find a way to stop the run. It will open up the passing game for him immensely. If they give him his job back and just let him run when he wants, the Titans will win the superbowl.

[leemajors]

siragusa = E Honda
Collins had one of the more epic qb performances in NFL history in the Super Bowl.

[Taco]

The Oilers amazing start... Err, I mean Tennessee Titans.


:lol

http://www.fansedge.com/Images/Product/33-50/33-50235-F.jpg

[Sausage]

Kerry Collins has been far from mediocre. On Sunday, he went up against arguably the best defenses in the league, and yet he kept them in the game and drove down the field 80 yards the last few minutes to win the game. Jeff Fisher doesn't need Kerry Collins to make the big play or put up huge numbers, they just want him to manage the game, and so far they're 4-0 with him as the starting QB. I'm a huge VY supporter, I'll admit, but I don't think given the same situation, he would've drove 80 yards the last few minutes of the game and won it for them. Right now Kerry is the answer, and hopefully VY learns from this experience.

[remingtonbo2001]

Kerry Collins has been far from mediocre. On Sunday, he went up against arguably the best defenses in the league, and yet he kept them in the game and drove down the field 80 yards the last few minutes to win the game. Jeff Fisher doesn't need Kerry Collins to make the big play or put up huge numbers, they just want him to manage the game, and so far they're 4-0 with him as the starting QB. I'm a huge VY supporter, I'll admit, but I don't think given the same situation, he would've drove 80 yards the last few minutes of the game and won it for them. Right now Kerry is the answers, and hopefully VY learns from this experience.

+1

[DisgruntledLionFan#54,927]

So, when is Tennessee going to trade for Roy Williams?

He could be the final piece for their SB run.

[Sausage]

I would love Roy Williams in a Titans uniform, but I don't see a big name player being traded in the middle of the season, and even then, what would they give up?

[DisgruntledLionFan#54,927]

He has a low cap hit for the remainder of the year and would be an excellent addition to their offense.

Personally, I don't like his game, but he'll play harder/focus for a contending team.

Makes too much sense for it to happen.

[exstatic]

he'll do fine as the nickel in dallas if he behaves himself...

but if not for the nickname 'pacman', his legal transgressions, and a few flashy plays, nobody would know his name based on his play in Tennessee.

he's good when he's on, but he's not a shutdown corner or anything.

Like Reggie Bush, his listed position isn't his best one: it's PR/KR.

Unfortunately, to bring that into play on a regular basis, Dallas' defense would actually have to stop people.

[exstatic]

P.S. Kerry Collins is mediocre at best. But "mediocre" is better than "pathetic emo cringe-inducing train wreck," i.e., Vince Young.

FIFY

Did his Mom really think she would make things better by revealing the extent of his Moma's'boy-ness?

[remingtonbo2001]

Bump.

Collins, LT, the Defense, Coach Fisher, all looking superb.

[Obstructed_View]

Yep, they are very solid. Several teams that didn't win the Super Bowl were undefeated at this point last year.

Fisher is easily coach of the year at this point. There shouldn't even be a vote for anyone else.

[Jimcs50]

Yep, they are very solid. Several teams that didn't win the Super Bowl were undefeated at this point last year.

Fisher is easily coach of the year at this point. There shouldn't even be a vote for anyone else.

Jim Zorn will get some votes if Redskins continue to win.