Thoughts on this story?

[Slydragon]

HAMILTON, Ohio -- An Ohio teenager is fighting for his right to wear makeup at school, but school leaders said it's a distraction.

"They're gender stereotyping. He's being sexually discriminated against. Nowhere in the rules does it say that males can't wear make-up" said Mindy Ball.

Should Boy Be Allowed To Wear Makeup?

The Hamilton mother said she stands 100 percent behind her son, 13-year-old Matt Allsup, an eighth-grader at Garfield Middle School who wears black eye makeup, lipstick and fingernail polish, NewsChannel5 sister station WCPO-TV in Cincinnati reported.

On Monday, Allsup was told to wash the makeup off his face, with the assistant principal telling him it was distracting and against dress code.

"When I spoke to the principal," Ball said, "She told me it was distracting because of the black makeup and I said, 'Well, I'll get him pink,' and she said, 'No, because he's a male, he's not allowed to wear it, the public don't accept males wearing make-up.'"

"None of my classmates found it distracting or anything -- and it's not extreme. I don't see why I can't wear it," said Allsup.

Ball and her son point out that every student is required to wear a character badge –- and one of the qualities it pledges is acceptance.

"It says, 'Do you value the uniqueness of all students?' And they're not letting me be unique," said Allsup. "I don't see why we have to wear them if we're not able to express who we are."

Freedom of expression is what Allsup and his mom said this is all about. They vow to fight the school's ban on his black makeup and plan to hire an attorney to take the issue to court.

"I don't think it's fair if he has to take his makeup off. I think every student in the district should have to take theirs off," said Ball.

Hamilton City School District spokeswoman Joni Copas said after Allsup washed his face, there was no further discipline.

She said if makeup is too harsh -- whether on a boy or a girl -- the student should be asked to wipe it off.

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[Melmart1]

I find it telling that they didn't have any quotes from the 'distracted' kids. I bet the only ones distracted were teachers and administrators. With all the shit kids say/do/wear today, this is pretty common and I bet none of the kids think twice about it.

[MrChug]

Irony rears it's ugly head (no pun intended).

It's funny, he's probably getting his ass kicked CONSTANTLY for this faggity behavior but is probably wearing the makeup because he's constantly getting his ass kicked. Funny world.

[TDMVPDPOY]

gothic emo :(

[ChuckD]

He and his mom should threaten to withdraw him from school. Administrators hate that because they lose daily headcount money.

[MrChug]

gothic emo :(

What is it with 'goth's' and their image problems?

I saw this story about fagboy about 6-7 times. This kid had no self-confidence whatsoever. Couldn't even look into the camera.

[BacktoBasics]

I find it telling that they didn't have any quotes from the 'distracted' kids. I bet the only ones distracted were teachers and administrators. With all the shit kids say/do/wear today, this is pretty common and I bet none of the kids think twice about it.Exactly.

[ORION]

If the kid wants to learn let him who cares what he looks like. I knew this one chick who looked like she got hit in the face with a rake but she wanted to learn damn it. She never had a date but damn it she learned.....

[JoeChalupa]

I don't see a problem with it and I hope they all make up and move on.

[ORION]

I don't see a problem with it and I hope they all make up and move on.

ha I get it. you said move on and that sounds like revlon the make up brand.

[MrChug]

ha I get it. you said move on and that sounds like revlon the make up brand.

Awwww man, you didn't get my reference to the kid with the ugly head and how he takes it in the rear? Jeez :depressed lol

[ORION]

Awwww man, you didn't get my reference to the kid with the ugly head and how he takes it in the rear? Jeez :depressed lol

Because I too was that boy ..:cry

:lol I'm not that bright

[Trainwreck2100]

the less we endorce stupid looking emos the better

[JoeChalupa]

I think they should make the hot girls were no make up since their hotness is a distraction.

[ORION]

I think they should make the hot girls were no make up since their hotness is a distraction.

Its not the make up that distracted me ...YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYIN !!?!?!

[IronMexican]

What a faggy.(And I totally meant it saying lame)

[byrontx]

I feel sorry for him. He is not getting what he needs at home. The kid is a head case and Mom is doing him no favors. If you can get a kid to work out some so that they take some pride in their appearance and get them into a hobby they are passionate about you can avoid a lot of this weirdness.

[I. Hustle]

Emo kids out of order! His mom is out of order! The whole damn school district is out of order!

[BacktoBasics]

I feel sorry for him. He is not getting what he needs at home. The kid is a head case and Mom is doing him no favors. If you can get a kid to work out some so that they take some pride in their appearance and get them into a hobby they are passionate about you can avoid a lot of this weirdness.That has to be one of the most bigoted statements I may have ever read. His mom is supporting his cry for freedom. I guess you didn't read that part of the story. Just because you don't like how he looks doesn't mean his home life is suffering. Fuck you people are stupid.

[byrontx]

He looks happy to you?

I guess I should have added that you can do or wear what he wants and its fine by me. I would actually back him in a tussle with the school board.

But, he looks like a very unhappy kid.

[Bigzax]

hitstick! beat his ass til he cries the makeup off!!!

[BacktoBasics]

He looks happy to you?

I guess I should have added that you can do or wear what he wants and its fine by me. I would actually back him in a tussle with the school board.

But, he looks like a very unhappy kid.
Regardless of him looking happy or not. Your statement was pretty fucked up.

[desflood]

Teenagers are unhappy. That's what they do best.

[Spurminator]

The best way to address this is for the school to endorse a once-a-month "Boys Wear Makeup Day." Boys who put on makeup will be rewarded by getting to sit next to their favorite teacher at a special exclusive lunch table. (The reward is mandatory.)

[Anti.Hero]

ahh the shelter of high school.

[Pistons < Spurs]

Screw all this freedom of expressing yourself by making yourself look like an idiot, this sense of individuality and need to be unique. It's all BS. Scrub your damn face and act like a normal kid.


That being said, I wouldn't force him to remove it or kick him out of school for purposely looking like a joke.

[BacktoBasics]

Screw all this freedom of expressing yourself by making yourself look like an idiot, this sense of individuality and need to be unique. It's all BS. Scrub your damn face and act like a normal kid.


That being said, I wouldn't force him to remove it or kick him out of school for purposely looking like a joke.Wow lots of narrow minded bigots here today. Good job expecting everyone to see things your bigoted way.

[I. Hustle]

I remember when I moved to Austin and my first day of school at Austin High I walked in and this guy was sitting in the hallway painting his toes. I was like WTF?! That school was crazy as hell. You had kids from the projects all the way to the Bush twins going there when I was there. It was more than diverse it was super diverse.

[byrontx]

I don't think that is a "cry for freedom." I think it is a "cry for attention."

Since becoming a parent I have noticed that there a lot of self-absorbed parents out there. The kids compete for attention in an environment where the parents have conflicting priorities (TV, careers, drama, etc.). Often, instead of planning around the kids(s) the kids are tagged-alone as burdensome accessory.

I haven't often been accused of being a bigot but I suppose that may be true. I can't remember meeting a happy, well-adjusted goth.

[BacktoBasics]

I don't think that is a "cry for freedom." I think it is a "cry for attention."

Since becoming a parent I have noticed that there a lot of self-absorbed parents out there. The kids compete for attention in an environment where the parents have conflicting priorities (TV, careers, drama, etc.). Often, instead of planning around the kids(s) the kids are tagged-alone as burdensome accessory.

I haven't often been accused of being a bigot but I suppose that may be true. I can't remember meeting a happy, well-adjusted goth.If it was a cry for attention he would have likely looked a lot more outlandish than that.

[byrontx]

Alrightty, but freedom from what?

He will certainly be free of the pestering of interested girls (Or boys either, I imagine, if that's the way his taste goes. Although I'll admit I'm supposing boys would be attracted conventional good-looks and that may be wrong). For that matter, he will likely be free of a lot of social interaction.

[purist]

He can dress like he wants, wear makeup as he wants, do whatever he wants...just not at school. If kids want to kick his ass because of the makeup then it's disturbing the school environment, not to mention placing his own safety at risk. That's why schools have dress codes ... in part they teach something about responsible behavior but they more than that they are intended to protect students, mainly from themselves.

Bottom line: individuality and self expression is great ... until you have to get a job and earn a living. Then, all of sudden, conformity looks beautiful.

[I. Hustle]

Bottom line: individuality and self expression is great ... until you have to get a job and earn a living. Then, all of sudden, conformity looks beautiful.

Sorry but I liked that.

[marini martini]

hitstick! beat his ass til he cries the makeup off!!!

:lmao:lmao:lmao

sorry, but this cracks me up!

[BacktoBasics]

Bottom line: individuality and self expression is great ... until you have to get a job and earn a living. Then, all of sudden, conformity looks beautiful.
only because its what pays the bills. However we're talking about a time in that kids life where he doesn't have the same responsibilities as grown adults.

[ORION]

what the hell is a normal kid? Who makes that decision ?

[BacktoBasics]

what the hell is a normal kid? Who makes that decision ?
bigots do its the bigoted way.

[JoeChalupa]

Normal? Who the hell knows these days.

[purist]

only because its what pays the bills. However we're talking about a time in that kids life where he doesn't have the same responsibilities as grown adults.

true. But isn't part of what education should do is prepare students to become productive members of society e.g. get a job? I'm thinking the real lessonis balance and moderation. Learn to express yourself, but learn that there is a time and place for everything.

It's not always "the man" out to get you. sometimes common sense has to rule.

[ORION]

bigots do its the bigoted way.

You laugh at me because I'm different, I laugh at you because you're all the same.

[ORION]

Normal? Who the hell knows these days.

Oh shit I'm normal and every single person should model their life after me. Also they should think the way I think too.

[JoeChalupa]

If you want to have freedom of expression in the workplace then you need a "career" and not a job. I watched the Chris Rock show on HBO.

[The Reckoning]

i say to ignore it because he's just looking for attention. eventually he'll notice that nobody gives a damn about him, and he'll no longer have an incentive to put it on every morning.

[ORION]

I'd rather wear a banana suit and walk around calling myself banana man than they to be "normal" and look like everyone else.

[mrsmaalox]

Okay so this kid purposely wants to look like a freak, fine. The other kids may not so much be distracted but repulsed; they shun the kid, kid is a joke, whether or not it's right he is not accepted into their cliques. Everyone knows that's what high school is like, right? So after years of being not accepted, and an outcast, kid gets fed up and goes Columbine on the place for not accepting him. All those school vigilantes claim they couldn't take the rejection anymore. I know it's wrong to be judgemental and not accepting of differences, but what should the school board actually do? Try to get the one kid to conform, or change the mindset of the entire high school population? High school has been like that forever, any significant change of thinking is gonna be real slow in coming; and in the meantime there may be a risk of a bunch of innocent kids getting killed. Which side should they opt for? Like being between a rock and a hard thing.

[Bender]

Wow lots of narrow minded bigots here today.
It's called difference of opinion.

[The Reckoning]

ehh. theres a difference between personality and a facade.

[ORION]

Okay so this kid purposely wants to look like a freak, fine. The other kids may not so much be distracted but repulsed; they shun the kid, kid is a joke, whether or not it's right he is not accepted into their cliques. Everyone knows that's what high school is like, right? So after years of being not accepted, and an outcast, kid gets fed up and goes Columbine on the place for not accepting him. All those school vigilantes claim they couldn't take the rejection anymore. I know it's wrong to be judgemental and not accepting of differences, but what should the school board actually do? Try to get the one kid to conform, or change the mindset of the entire high school population? High school has been like that forever, any significant change of thinking is gonna be real slow in coming; and in the meantime there may be a risk of a bunch of innocent kids getting killed. Which side should they opt for? Like being between a rock and a hard thing.

why should he have to change who he is to be accepted ? Believe it or not but kids dress like that because they like to.

[ploto]

You do not have the same rights of expression in school as a kid as when you are an adult. Plain and simple.

For the record, my kid's school specifically forbids nail polish and make-up on boys in the student handbook.

[Blake]

You do not have the same rights of expression in school as a kid as when you are an adult. Plain and simple.

For the record, my kid's school specifically forbids nail polish and make-up on boys in the student handbook.

exactly. It's like prison which also happens to be a publicly funded institution. If the warden says "no black colored eye liner" then tough........wear your black eyeliner when you get out on parole.

Hell, plenty of middle schools around these parts force kids to wear uniforms.

Point being, if the public school allows you to go to that school tuition free, then you do what school tells you to. Otherwise, have mommy home school you while teaching you the finer points of painting your nails with skull and cross bones.

[BacktoBasics]

exactly. It's like prison which also happens to be a publicly funded institution. If the warden says "no black colored eye liner" then tough........wear your black eyeliner when you get out on parole.

Hell, plenty of middle schools around these parts force kids to wear uniforms.

Point being, if the public school allows you to go to that school tuition free, then you do what school tells you to. Otherwise, have mommy home school you while teaching you the finer points of painting your nails with skull and cross bones.
tuition free? The public pays for public schools.

[ORION]

Melmart loves khaki pants and shirts !

[Melmart1]

what the hell is a normal kid? Who makes that decision ?

Exactly! If we are talking what is socially common, I guess that means a uniform regulation that says he has to start popping his collar before he can attend class :rolleyes

[I. Hustle]

I say they got what they wanted. Their moment in the sun

[mrsmaalox]

why should he have to change who he is to be accepted ? Believe it or not but kids dress like that because they like to.
I totally agree. But high school is screwed up like that, it's not right, it just is. My point was about the school board and their potentially no win situation.

[Blake]

tuition free? The public pays for public schools.

Jeenyus.

This kid does not have to pay one penny out of his pocket directly to the school for tuition.

and to your point, if the public that pays for schools decides that it is distracting, then too bad. Go home school or wait til college when you can look like Marilyn Manson while burning all the hippie lettuce you can buy from the homeless guy on the corner asking for a handout.

[Melmart1]

Okay so this kid purposely wants to look like a freak, fine. The other kids may not so much be distracted but repulsed; they shun the kid, kid is a joke, whether or not it's right he is not accepted into their cliques. Everyone knows that's what high school is like, right? So after years of being not accepted, and an outcast, kid gets fed up and goes Columbine on the place for not accepting him. All those school vigilantes claim they couldn't take the rejection anymore. I know it's wrong to be judgemental and not accepting of differences, but what should the school board actually do? Try to get the one kid to conform, or change the mindset of the entire high school population? High school has been like that forever, any significant change of thinking is gonna be real slow in coming; and in the meantime there may be a risk of a bunch of innocent kids getting killed. Which side should they opt for? Like being between a rock and a hard thing.

You think that Columbine happened because of lipstick? Columbine happened because kids who were mentally ill did not get treatment even though they clearly needed it beforehand. Columbine happened because parents don't pay attention to their kids and realize they were burgeoning sociopaths. It had nothing to do with black lipstick or makeup on boys.

Not only that, one could argue that surpressing a child's need to express himself could result in rage. Personally, I would rather have kids expressing themselves so you know what you are dealing with, rather than making them suppress themselves then having an unknown quantity.

[ORION]

I totally agree. But high school is screwed up like that, it's not right, it just is. My point was about the school board and their potentially no win situation.

I bet they told Einstein to cut his hair in school but seriously I'm a winner and you should start acting like me.

[Anti.Hero]

Fucking fascists telling our young men not to show up to class w/ clown paint on.

When will the madness end!?

[Blake]

what the hell is a normal kid? Who makes that decision ?

well, let's let pyro kid come to class too.

God forbid we tell pyro kid to put out his flames because the fire might be distracting to other students. Of course, I'd like to get a poll from the other students, just to get their opinion on whether or not pyro kid is really a distraction.

[Melmart1]

well, let's let pyro kid come to class too.

God forbid we tell pyro kid to put out his flames because the fire might be distracting to other students. Of course, I'd like to get a poll from the other students, just to get their opinion on whether or not pyro kid is really a distraction.

Yeah, that is a really good analogy, seeing as how arson is against the law and lipstick is not.

[I. Hustle]

I wear lipstick.... ON MY SCHLONG!!!!

[ORION]

well, let's let pyro kid come to class too.

God forbid we tell pyro kid to put out his flames because the fire might be distracting to other students. Of course, I'd like to get a poll from the other students, just to get their opinion on whether or not pyro kid is really a distraction.

I would not want to hurt his dreams of being in the circus but I was just talking about that the kid wears

[ORION]

I wear lipstick.... ON MY SCHLONG!!!!

you know I was going to make reference to this earlier but I did not have the time to incorporate lipstick, my Wang and a chicks mouth fast enough at work.

[Blake]

Yeah, that is a really good analogy, seeing as how arson is against the law and lipstick is not.

I didnt say let the kid burn down the building.

but yeah, not the best analogy, but at some point you have to draw a line at what's acceptable and what's not. What's the cut off? How long should pants be? How long should ear rings be? Should guys be allowed to wear hoop ear rings? How bout a skirt too? Hell, this emo kid is already half there.

If the school tells you it isn't acceptable, then bust out your nail polish remover then sit down and shut the hell up.

[ORION]

I didnt say let the kid burn down the building.

but yeah, not the best analogy, but at some point you have to draw a line at what's acceptable and what's not. What's the cut off? How long should pants be? How long should ear rings be? Should guys be allowed to wear hoop ear rings? How bout a skirt too? Hell, this emo kid is already half there.

If the school tells you it isn't acceptable, then bust out your nail polish remover then sit down and shut the hell up.

bottom line is if the kid is there to learn what difference does it make what he dresses like , but not a skirt. It would have to be a skort.

[I. Hustle]

you know I was going to make reference to this earlier but I did not have the time to incorporate lipstick, my Wang and a chicks mouth fast enough at work.

Sometimes you have to make time for what's important.

[ORION]

Sometimes you have to make time for what's important.

:lol:lol
Touché

[mrsmaalox]

You think that Columbine happened because of lipstick? Columbine happened because kids who were mentally ill did not get treatment even though they clearly needed it beforehand. Columbine happened because parents don't pay attention to their kids and realize they were burgeoning sociopaths. It had nothing to do with black lipstick or makeup on boys.

Not only that, one could argue that surpressing a child's need to express himself could result in rage. Personally, I would rather have kids expressing themselves so you know what you are dealing with, rather than making them suppress themselves then having an unknown quantity.
I know Columbine didn't happen because of lipstick :rolleyes But you don't think the black trenchcoat thing they used to "express themselves" as misfits didn't exacerbate the ostracization which they then internalized and finally let explode in rage?
And again the point I was trying to make had to do with the position and potential actions of school boards in these kinds of situations.

[mrsmaalox]

I bet they told Einstein to cut his hair in school but seriously I'm a winner and you should start acting like me.

And you are awesome! :spin

[JoeChalupa]

Melmart loves khaki pants and shirts !

+1

[ORION]

+1

Dickies

[Blake]

bottom line is if the kid is there to learn what difference does it make what he dresses like , but not a skirt. It would have to be a skort.

if it didn't make a difference, there would be no dress code at any school anywhere in the world.

There is an atmosphere that the classroom and the school needs in order to keep the students focused on learning and not on their fellow classmates.

[I. Hustle]

I went to three different highschools and each one was so different as far as how the students dressed. At Edison here in SA they all dressed “gangster” or “cholo” and thought they were cool. Then at Jefferson they stepped it up a bit and I saw a few mohawks and stuff like that along with the gangster crap. Then when I moved to Austin it was like a tv show. You had the wannabe gang members that dressed like gang members from tv and movies and you had the “cowboys” then there were the ones that dressed like their favorite tv show characters. In fact one of the guys from my graduating class was/is on that show The O.C. I am not sure if it’s even on anymore or what his character name is. Then the had Jenna and Barbara Bush and their clique. It was weird to say the least.

[ORION]

if it didn't make a difference, there would be no dress code at any school anywhere in the world.

There is an atmosphere that the classroom and the school needs in order to keep the students focused on learning and not on their fellow classmates.

If these kids are wanting to learn why worry about their fellow classmates. So throw out the chick with the big tits because the guys in class can't learn.

[ORION]

I went to three different highschools and each one was so different as far as how the students dressed. At Edison here in SA they all dressed “gangster” or “cholo” and thought they were cool. Then at Jefferson they stepped it up a bit and I saw a few mohawks and stuff like that along with the gangster crap. Then when I moved to Austin it was like a tv show. You had the wannabe gang members that dressed like gang members from tv and movies and you had the “cowboys” then there were the ones that dressed like their favorite tv show characters. In fact one of the guys from my graduating class was/is on that show The O.C. I am not sure if it’s even on anymore or what his character name is. Then the had Jenna and Barbara Bush and their clique. It was weird to say the least.

:dizzy

[marini martini]

Man, I miss the days when freaks, were really freaky:smokin

[Blake]

If these kids are wanting to learn why worry about their fellow classmates. So throw out the chick with the big tits because the guys in class can't learn.

sure, why not throw out all the kids with physical deformities too.

We're not talking about things people can't help themselves over.....we are talking about the kids that are screaming for attention. That's all this is and when they get that attention, it's distracting from the learning environment.

I think this issue has been discussed ad nauseum in the public arena which again is why every public school in the country has a dress code of some sort.

The bulk majority of males in this country do not wear face makeup. Therefore it is not 'normal' for a guy to put it on because he woke up one morning and wanted to.

If you let that go, then the line gets longer for kids saying "ok, now it's my turn to dress how I want to dress" and soon there is absolutely no dress code.

[I Love Me Some Me]

I think this kid needs his ass kicked.

[ORION]

sure, why not throw out all the kids with physical deformities too.

We're not talking about things people can't help themselves over.....we are talking about the kids that are screaming for attention. That's all this is and when they get that attention, it's distracting from the learning environment.

I think this issue has been discussed ad nauseum in the public arena which again is why every public school in the country has a dress code of some sort.

The bulk majority of males in this country do not wear face makeup. Therefore it is not 'normal' for a guy to put it on because he woke up one morning and wanted to.

If you let that go, then the line gets longer for kids saying "ok, now it's my turn to dress how I want to dress" and soon there is absolutely no dress code.

But this is just freaking make up. Its only an issue if someone doesn't think he's "normal". He is not wearing blush and blue eye shadow and prancing around in a summer dress. He is not trying to look like a chick. Goth make up doesn't distract people it only distracts the "normal" people.

[ORION]

and another thing you never throw the chick out with the big boobs

[I. Hustle]

and another thing you never throw the chick out with the big boobs

That was the only reason I kept going to school. I still remember sitting outside and watching the girls practice volleyball with Tish who also had big boobs. She used to let me motorboat because she thought it was hilarious. DAMN I MISS HIGH SCHOOL!

[Blake]

But this is just freaking make up. Its only an issue if someone doesn't think he's "normal". He is not wearing blush and blue eye shadow and prancing around in a summer dress. He is not trying to look like a chick. Goth make up doesn't distract people it only distracts the "normal" people.

you're missing the point.

It doesn't matter if you think that it doesn't distract people or not. It is makeup and it's on a guy and the potential is there.
Therefore, if you let it go, then who are you to say that the guy wearing the blue eye shadow and summer dress should go home and change.

Why isn't guy in the summer dress normal too in your book? Who are you to say he's not normal? I guess it would only distract the "normal" people........this goth kid better not call him a "freak"

[ORION]

That was the only reason I kept going to school. I still remember sitting outside and watching the girls practice volleyball with Tish who also had big boobs. She used to let me motorboat because she thought it was hilarious. DAMN I MISS HIGH SCHOOL!

You don't have to try and convince me. A few of us joined track just to do this same thing. We would just high jump a few times then sit on the mat and watch the chicks run by. We were scouting to see which ones we would sit next to when we would come back from those meets out in Cuero or where ever.

[I. Hustle]

I say we dress the way we used to and go back to highschool undercover. I bet we become the coolest dudes there.

[dimsah]

meh. One day maybe his other testicle will drop and he'll realize that he looks like a douchebag. Until then, let him dress how he wants.

[ORION]

you're missing the point.

It doesn't matter if you think that it doesn't distract people or not. It is makeup and it's on a guy and the potential is there.
Therefore, if you let it go, then who are you to say that the guy wearing the blue eye shadow and summer dress should go home and change.

Why isn't guy in the summer dress normal too in your book? Who are you to say he's not normal? I guess it would only distract the "normal" people........this goth kid better not call him a "freak"

Because it sounds like your point is the kid wants to dress like a girl. Sounds like you were home schooled. When it gets worse is when people like yourself see other people who do not look like yourself and you try and force people to look a certain way. That kid is not sitting there saying to himself "allright I got away with "goth" make up on so now next week I'm going for a prince albert and letting it hang out"

[ORION]

I say we dress the way we used to and go back to highschool undercover. I bet we become the coolest dudes there.

Yeah but what if girls under 18 start hitting on us. I don't know about you but I don't want to seem like a fag turning down a chick.

[I. Hustle]

Yeah but what if girls under 18 start hitting on us. I don't know about you but I don't want to seem like a fag turning down a chick.

AAANNNNNNNDDDDDDDDD why would we turn them down?

[ORION]

AAANNNNNNNDDDDDDDDD why would we turn them down?

:lol - OOOOHHHHH NOOOO!! You didn't just go there !

[I. Hustle]

:lol - OOOOHHHHH NOOOO!! You didn't just go there !

Look my friend I am a method actor. I didn't plan on going undercover as a senior I planned on being a freshman. Don't get me wrong I would go after the junior and senior chicks but I will stay in character.

[BacktoBasics]

Nazi Forum

[ORION]

Look my friend I am a method actor. I didn't plan on going undercover as a senior I planned on being a freshman. Don't get me wrong I would go after the junior and senior chicks but I will stay in character.

well you can have all the under age chicks you can handle. I think the important thing here is choosing the right name.

[I. Hustle]

well you can have all the under age chicks you can handle. I think the important thing here is choosing the right name.

Got you covered my first dog's name and the first street I remember living on. Max Fulton

[ORION]

Got you covered my first dog's name and the first street I remember living on. Max Fulton

Nice to meet you Mr. Fulton I'm Mike Sunshine.....damn it !

[Blake]

Because it sounds like your point is the kid wants to dress like a girl. Sounds like you were home schooled. When it gets worse is when people like yourself see other people who do not look like yourself and you try and force people to look a certain way. That kid is not sitting there saying to himself "allright I got away with "goth" make up on so now next week I'm going for a prince albert and letting it hang out"

no, that's not my point and no, I wasn't home schooled and my personal background nor yours have anything to do with this argument.

my point is that if you let this kid come in with face make up, then it sets precedents to allow other kids to say, "hey, if he can wear that, then I should be able to wear what I want to".

And although it is a "public school" this is not public domain. You can look whatever way you want to at the mall, but if the school forces you to wear khakis then you wear the khakis or you a) move to another town/state/country b) go home schooling c) go private schooling. There is nothing in the constitution that forces a school to allow kids the freedom to dress as they please.

Based on what you've said so far, I'm not sure you even think a school dress code is necessary at all, but there are good reasons why they have dress codes and enforce them.