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ducks
09-29-2008, 11:07 PM
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Terrell Owens’ love affair with Tony Romo and the rest of his Dallas teammates may be turning down the rocky path that his relationships with Donovan McNabb and Jeff Garcia followed. At least it seemed that way after the Cowboys lost Sunday for the first time this season.

“I’m a competitor and I want the ball,” T.O. said after the 26-24 loss to the Redskins, ending the speculation that Dallas might emulate New England and go 16-0 this season, finishing the deal in the Super Bowl, which the Patriots didn’t.

That was a silly dream. What the Patriots did was a once-in-35 years kind of thing. Moreover, as Washington demonstrated, this season’s NFC East is not last year’s AFC East, through which New England breezed.

But beyond that, we all know that the Cowboys’ worst enemy is not the opposition, nor their slightly overrated talent level—not all 13 Pro Bowlers last year deserved it. The enemy is themselves: an owner who is also general manager who thinks of himself as a coach; a head coach laid back enough to accept input from above; and an offensive coordinator who has been effectively designated by said owner as the current coach’s successor.
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Plus a locker room with at least three players who were run off other teams for reasons unrelated to their talent.

So here was the most prominent and skilled of those three after Sunday’s game, whining that he should have been involved in more than 20 of the 58 offensive plays the Cowboys ran against the Redskins.

Yes, he was implicating the coaching staff for not recognizing that he must be the focal point of the offense. He also was implicating Romo, the same “friend” he defended with tears after the unexpected playoff loss to the Giants last January, saying from behind dark glasses: “You can point the finger at him …. and if you do that, it’s really unfair. That’s my teammate. My quarterback. We lost as a team.”

Funny he didn’t utter the “T as in team” word on Sunday. The only “T” involved was the first initial of his first name.

First of all, give some credit to the Redskins.

Then blame Jerry Jones (“Coach Jones” for long periods during his 20 years of ownership); coach Wade Phillips; and Jason Garrett, the offensive coordinator and head coach in waiting.

For the most obvious stat to come out of the loss was not Owens’ seven catches for 71 yards; 11 yards rushing on two reverses; and 11 other plays designed for him.

It was that Marion Barber got just eight carries for 26 yards and that Felix Jones did not touch the ball from scrimmage.

Barber came in with 285 yards rushing for a 4.6 average and four touchdowns in three games. Jones, the explosive rookie, had scored in all three games and had 148 yards on 18 carries, an 8.2 average. One of the touchdowns was a 60-yard run, another a 98-yard kickoff return.

Were Jones, Phillips, Garrett and Romo catering to T.O at the expense of the running game? Were they scared of the Redskins’ run defense? Washington ranked 16th in a 32-team league against the run, allowing 108 yards per game. Although to be fair, almost half those yards, 154, came in their opener against the Giants, their only loss. They improved markedly against the Saints (55 yards) and Cardinals (116).

But does that mean the Cowboys had to stop trying to run? Barber is a punishing runner who can wear down opponents in the second half and it wasn’t as if they got way behind and had to throw on every play. They trailed 17-10 at the half and it was 17-17 in the third quarter.

None of this might matter in the long run. The Cowboys might finish 15-1. Or, more likely, 13-3 or 12-4 because they play in the NFL’s best division.

But what happened Sunday demonstrates anarchy of a sort that doesn’t afflict other good teams. Randy Moss, even more notorious as a “me first” receiver for his first nine NFL seasons, discovered when he got to New England last year that playing a team game can be liberating and good for your stats. His stats—a record 23 TD catches—speak to that.

T.O. seemed to have gotten that message during his first two seasons in Dallas. But Sunday’s outburst is more suggestive of the kind he had weekly in San Francisco and in his second year in Philadelphia.

“Everybody recognized that I wasn’t really getting the ball in the first half,” Owens said. “I’m pretty sure everybody watching the game recognized it, people in the stands recognized it. I think my team recognized it.”

That’s the “I” word three times in three sentences.

Bill Belichick or Tom Coughlin or Andy Reid or Bill Parcells would end that immediately. Reid, in fact, suspended Owens in Philadelphia in 2005, and Coughlin suspended the Giants’ star receiver, Plaxico Burress, when he declined to show up for practice last Monday.

Phillips doesn’t have that power.

Jones brought Owens to Dallas and he also gave Phillips a third head coaching job when Parcells left after the 2006 season. By several accounts, the Tuna was tired of dealing with the distractions.

The biggest distraction is T.O.

In a season when the Cowboys remain a solid favorite to win the Super Bowl, Owens may be the reason they won’t. If one loss sets him off this way, imagine what happens when Dallas inevitably loses another game or two.

In other words, the Cowboys may be the team that has the best shot of depriving the Cowboys of an NFL title.

ducks
09-29-2008, 11:08 PM
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=An8utanU4oSkqOvZlG.4eHcdsLYF?slug=ap-onfootball-toagain&prov=ap&type=lgns

Vinnie_Johnson
09-29-2008, 11:27 PM
Name me a great player that doesn't want more touches? Just a non story he only gripes when they lose never in a win.

ducks
09-29-2008, 11:30 PM
they went to him like 18 times
they should have used barber more
I do not like the cowboys but 8 runs is nothing for barber
why not use him?

ducks
09-29-2008, 11:30 PM
Name me a great player that doesn't want more touches? Just a non story he only gripes when they lose never in a win.

spurs

Vinnie_Johnson
09-29-2008, 11:35 PM
they went to him like 18 times
they should have used barber more
I do not like the cowboys but 8 runs is nothing for barber
why not use him?

Agreed Barber needs at least 20 touches.

Vinnie_Johnson
09-29-2008, 11:36 PM
spurs

:toast

tlongII
09-29-2008, 11:56 PM
How many balls did T.O. drop?

Borosai
09-30-2008, 12:51 AM
T.O. is who he is. His uniform is the only thing that changes.

Spurtacus
09-30-2008, 01:11 AM
The game plan on both sides of the ball was poorly conceived. Not enough Barbarian and Felix Jones. Too much to T.O.

Roy Williams is missing from the back and the Cowboys still gave up a lot of big pass plays.

Fabbs
09-30-2008, 08:55 AM
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Bill Belichick or Tom Coughlin or Andy Reid or Bill Parcells would end that immediately. Reid, in fact, suspended Owens in Philadelphia in 2005, and Coughlin suspended the Giants’ star receiver, Plaxico Burress, when he declined to show up for practice last Monday.
Except we now learn Plaico Burress was fined 50 times over the last few years with no suspension.

Obstructed_View
09-30-2008, 09:00 AM
Except we now learn Plaico Burress was fined 50 times over the last few years with no suspension.

Reid didn't handle the TO situation very well, and we'll see how Belichick handles Moss now that the Patriots aren't looking like world-beaters. So far Wade has handled TO about a thousand times better than Parcells did.

K-State Spur
09-30-2008, 09:46 AM
Name me a great player that doesn't want more touches? Just a non story he only gripes when they lose never in a win.

in a little defense of the media (which is never above making mountains out of molehills) - TO has earned this because this is how it started before.

you'd think a guy like TO would err on the side of caution given his history.

Reggie Miller
09-30-2008, 09:57 AM
T.O. tried to Falcon Punch the Blessed Virgin Mary...

Evan
09-30-2008, 10:40 AM
in a little defense of the media (which is never above making mountains out of molehills) - TO has earned this because this is how it started before.

you'd think a guy like TO would err on the side of caution given his history.

You're right but the media baited him for 6 questions in a row on this to get him to say it.

K-State Spur
09-30-2008, 10:50 AM
I don't doubt it.

TO's not a bad guy IMHO. He just has the brain of a 10 year old. Not an idiot so much as ignorant, selfish, and extremely immature.

Evan
09-30-2008, 10:58 AM
I don't doubt it.

TO's not a bad guy IMHO. He just has the brain of a 10 year old. Not an idiot so much as ignorant, selfish, and extremely immature.

I would replace immature with a blinding stubbornness. In the realm of athletes he isn't that bad…I'd take him over a lot of other guys.

DBryant88
09-30-2008, 11:59 AM
he has grown up a little bit, teams realize they have to cover him better than in the past and shawn springs dominated him when they went up against each other. Barber should of gotten the ball more

Dirk Nowitzki
09-30-2008, 12:25 PM
Owens may have a big ego, but he is the best WR in the league and he gives it his all on the field. I love having the guy on my team.

ducks
09-30-2008, 01:00 PM
Owens may have a big ego, but he is the best WR in the league and he gives it his all on the field. I love having the guy on my team.

do you love dirk on your team so you can see him choke?

also to dropped passes HE SHOULD HAVE CAUGHT:lol:lol

Evan
09-30-2008, 01:20 PM
also to dropped passes HE SHOULD HAVE CAUGHT:lol:lol

Is there a WR that doesn't?

Bigzax
09-30-2008, 02:16 PM
it's all media driven bullshit...who cares what anyone says...it's the play on the field...

if the rumor that i read that one of the players commented that it seemed TO stopped running routes in the 2nd half is true though...then THAT is a problem...

Romo and Garrett were fools to allow the audibles out of run plays so much...Romo has alot of confidence in himself no doubt, and 300 yards and 3td's gives him some legs to stand on, but he needs to realize that you RUN to win the game...he forgot to help is D out by chewing up the clock...

of course...the Skins D DID do an great job when Dallas tried to run...so it is what it is...

the Dallas D? they totally underperformed and one of the worst things i heard was a player say they were not overpowered just out of position...

well duh. moss was behind you the whole game.

but portis went through that D...so no excuses there...

Evan
09-30-2008, 03:11 PM
but portis went through that D...so no excuses there...

right

K-State Spur
09-30-2008, 04:58 PM
well duh. moss was behind you the whole game.


that's nothing new though. it doesn't matter who they put on him or what kinds of coverages they throw at him, Santana owns the Cowboys.

he'd be Canton bound if he could play against them 16 times a year.

jack sommerset
09-30-2008, 05:30 PM
I was burned out of T.O storys about 1 month after his 2nd season at Philly. Its obvious the media hates this guy. They just wait for something and all the little drones line up and take a whack. ESPN makes me sick the most because these are a mix of players and coaches from all ages joining the ass kicking of T.O. These are suppose to be men but they act more like old gossiping women. Its shameful.

Flight3107
09-30-2008, 06:30 PM
Non story

Slinkyman
09-30-2008, 07:17 PM
Name me a great player that doesn't want more touches? Just a non story he only gripes when they lose never in a win.

Guys who don't/didn't cast blame on the rest of the team when they lost:
Jerry Rice
Chris Carter
Tim Brown
Rod Smith
Marvin Harrison
Michael Irvin
the list could go on and on...

jack sommerset
09-30-2008, 07:33 PM
Guys who don't/didn't cast blame on the rest of the team when they lost:
Jerry Rice
Chris Carter
Tim Brown
Rod Smith
Marvin Harrison
Michael Irvin
the list could go on and on...

:lol

Maybe Jerry Rice and Rod Smith. Everyone else HELL YES. Recievers are babies.

StylisticS
09-30-2008, 07:44 PM
of course...the Skins D DID do an great job when Dallas tried to run...so it is what it is...

the Dallas D? they totally underperformed and one of the worst things i heard was a player say they were not overpowered just out of position...

well duh. moss was behind you the whole game.

but portis went through that D...so no excuses there...

It's because we play soft coverage and don't press. WHY? I don't know and the entire fanbase would like to know. We have physical ballhawking people in the secondary and we are playing off the line of scrimmage. WHY? What is the point on doing that? How is that helping the dline as well? You are asking them to dink and dunk you to death. They need to become more aggressive on defense, period. That was what Wade Phillips defenses was all about and yet we haven't seen it.

The offense wasn't helping the defense either. We kept passing the ball for some very fuckin odd reason. Kept throwing incomplete passes stopping the clock and going 3 and out and not giving our defense any time to catch a breather. No wonder Portis ran wild in the 4th and we couldn't get off the field. That defense was tired. I kept yelling at the tv, RUN THE DAMN BALL. RUN TO THE OUTSIDE and TO THE RIGHT. The Redskins have NO answer for that. Notice Barber's longest run was to the right. Just a bad bad gameplan altogether.

I do agree with you about BSPN. They've been waiting for this for 2 years from TO. That's why I don't watch BSPN.

Reggie Miller
09-30-2008, 09:52 PM
Every time ESPN covers T.O., a demon gets its wings.

K-State Spur
09-30-2008, 10:42 PM
:lol

Maybe Jerry Rice and Rod Smith. Everyone else HELL YES. Recievers are babies.

has harrison ever talked to cast blame?

agreed on everyone else.

Reggie Miller
09-30-2008, 10:48 PM
has harrison ever talked to cast blame?

agreed on everyone else.

Has Harrison talked? If so, I know I missed it.

Vinnie_Johnson
09-30-2008, 11:59 PM
TO Rips Shesean and BSPN :lmao

http://cowboyslive.com/

slayermin
10-01-2008, 12:43 AM
TO is probably worried that the Cowboys are going to feature the run more the next few weeks and he is speaking up now before it happens.

But i don't think the Cowboys need to worry. They still have a great team. They weren't sharp on Sunday and the Redskins were. Clinton Portis played like his life depended on every carry. Santana Moss and Jason Campbell looked like Marvin Harrison and Peyton Manning, the way they hooked up.

If the Redskins play like that every week, they will be championship contenders. Not sure if this team is ready, but it sure makes the rest of the season very interesting.

And kudos to Jim Zorn. He called a great game.

stretch
10-01-2008, 08:32 AM
LOL Sheshawn

monosylab1k
10-01-2008, 08:51 AM
has harrison ever talked to cast blame?

He lets his gun do the talking.

NBA Junkie
10-01-2008, 09:12 AM
You're right but the media baited him for 6 questions in a row on this to get him to say it.

And, in typical TO fashion, he played right into their hands.

duncan228
10-01-2008, 02:47 PM
T.O. goes after ESPN (http://blogs.mysanantonio.com/weblogs/courtside/archives/2008/10/to_goes_after_e.html)

Terrell Owens said during his weekly session with the media that the stink raised over his comments after Sunday's game were much ado about nothing and basically a creation of ESPN.

"I know that crew over at ESPN, they should definitely be up for an Oscar nominee at the end of the year," Owens said told reporters in Irving. "They're definitely making their stake at a claim to divide this team and it's not going to happen...I understand the political campaign is going on. ESPN really hasn't had the ratings that they've had for a while. I'm pretty sure that's why they made a big deal out of what I said."

Owens also said he's confident the Cowboys will bounce back this weekend against the Bengals after losing 26-24 to the Redskins to drop to 3-1.

"You know, guys, we didn't lose the Super Bowl," Owens said. "Obviously, it was a division game. I feel very confident we'll get back on the right track this weekend."

dbreiden83080
10-01-2008, 03:00 PM
I don't like TO but he is right. ESPN just makes a stink about everything anymore. You also have guys on that network like Skip Bayless that are all playing little characters. So part of his deal is to hate on TO and Lebron James nomatter what they do. They could both raise the dead and Skip Bayless would be calling TO "Team Obliterator and Lebron "Prince James"

ESPN can be very annoying

dbreiden83080
10-01-2008, 03:08 PM
Has Harrison talked? If so, I know I missed it.

LOL, true

I don't think i have ever seen him even do an interview after a game. He supposedly barely communicates with his team-mates as well.

Vinnie_Johnson
10-01-2008, 03:17 PM
I don't like TO but he is right. ESPN just makes a stink about everything anymore. You also have guys on that network like Skip Bayless that are all playing little characters. So part of his deal is to hate on TO and Lebron James nomatter what they do. They could both raise the dead and Skip Bayless would be calling TO "Team Obliterator and Lebron "Prince James"

ESPN can be very annoying

Isn't Skip just a little bitch because he got fired from The DMN? And Sheshawn just a bitch because TO retired his overrated self. Give me the damn ball:lmao

jack sommerset
10-01-2008, 07:30 PM
has harrison ever talked to cast blame?

agreed on everyone else.


He has complained about not getting the ball enough. Not alot but one year they made a big deal out of it. Obviously he doesn't talk to the media.

dirk4mvp
10-01-2008, 10:06 PM
He has complained about not getting the ball enough. Not alot but one year they made a big deal out of it. Obviously he doesn't talk to the media.


proof or it didn't happen.

Out of all the star receivers in the league, he'd be the last one to complain.

Evan
10-01-2008, 10:37 PM
ESPN's heyday was in the 90's and they are nothing but sports drama now. They try to be a part of the news instead of reporting it.

That sorry excuse for an NFL broadcast they run out on Mondays is proof.

samikeyp
10-01-2008, 10:57 PM
I don't like TO but he is right. ESPN just makes a stink about everything anymore. You also have guys on that network like Skip Bayless that are all playing little characters. So part of his deal is to hate on TO and Lebron James nomatter what they do. They could both raise the dead and Skip Bayless would be calling TO "Team Obliterator and Lebron "Prince James"

ESPN can be very annoying

+1

PixelPusher
10-01-2008, 11:01 PM
:lol

Maybe Jerry Rice and Rod Smith. Everyone else HELL YES. Recievers are babies.

Jerry Rice's wife called into a postgame show to bitch about Jeff Garcia not getting her husband the ball back around 1999 or so. Rice rarely let his guard down when front of the media, but he let his teammates and coaches have every once in a while.

SPURS vs NBA media
10-01-2008, 11:18 PM
they went to him like 18 times
they should have used barber more
I do not like the cowboys but 8 runs is nothing for barber
why not use him?

What star player does not want the ball,what do you want him to say I don't want the ball give it somebody else

Vinnie_Johnson
10-01-2008, 11:21 PM
What star player does not want the ball,what do you want him to say I don't want the ball give it somebody else

Ducks just hates The Cowboys so he is just reaching for anything.:lmao

T Park
10-01-2008, 11:31 PM
I believe Jerry Rice was doing a "give me the damn ball" his last year in Seattle.

jack sommerset
10-02-2008, 10:27 AM
proof or it didn't happen.

Out of all the star receivers in the league, he'd be the last one to complain.

I am a key witness thats proof. Seriously I am 100% sure him and Peyton got into it because Harrison said he was not getting the ball. Believe it or not.

The Franchise
10-04-2008, 06:28 PM
If 20 of 53 plays are designed for you what the hell do you mean you didn't get the ball enough? Had the team just played to win instead of worrying about getting him the ball on every other play they may have won the game. Owens has always been a team cancer and that will never change.

K-State Spur
10-08-2008, 01:54 AM
while nobody would have have ever compared him to Henry Ellard in this aspect, TO's route running looks like it's been really sloppy thus far this year. he's always gotten by more on the size/speed than on precise routes - and it's not really an effort issue - but i've seen better out of him.