The question that just don't die or go away for Obama?

[RandomGuy]

I stilll think it's going to be a McCain landslide, with no qualifiers.


I reserve the right to claim massive voter fraud if there is evidence it was commited...and there already is.

:rollin

My that was quick...

Pop quiz, find the qualifier in the following statement, hotshot:

"McCain will win in a landslide, unless there is massive vote fraud".

[2centsworth]

I stilll think it's going to be a McCain landslide, with no qualifiers. Let me be clear on this.


I wasn't basing my opinion on the way McCain was polling at that time.

God Bless You, but it aint happening. It's going to be President Obama.

[MannyIsGod]

Eventually one will...Judges of both parties like to make the front page.






So are you saying the speculation is decreasing and becoming less of a factor?

Because that's what would have to be happening for me to be wrong here...

No one cares Whottt. If its becoming such a big issue why doesn't the McCain campaign reach out to it? I mean showing that Obama isn't a citizen is probably one thing that could save them right about now yet they won't touch it with a ten foot pole.

[ElNono]

So are you saying the speculation is decreasing and becoming less of a factor?

Because that's what would have to be happening for me to be wrong here...

When was it a factor to begin with? I mean, the guy had to prove citizenship to enter the primaries... so, you have been wrong all along, and this is a non-issue...
But then again, you love to put your e-rep on the line for outstandingly stupid things.

[MannyIsGod]

What ever.. 7>2

FYP

[ElNono]

No one cares Whottt. If its becoming such a big issue why doesn't the McCain campaign reach out to it? I mean showing that Obama isn't a citizen is probably one thing that could save them right about now yet they won't touch it with a ten foot pole.

Maybe because McCain was born in Panama? It's a double edged sword...

[ChumpDumper]

Eventually one will...Judges of both parties like to make the front page.Judges hate to have their asses handed to them by higher courts. The precedents that appear to have been set regarding standing of the plaintiffs give the impression that most of these cases are going to be dismissed as quickly as this Washington state case of which you are so thoroughly informed.

[2centsworth]

No one cares Whottt. If its becoming such a big issue why doesn't the McCain campaign reach out to it? I mean showing that Obama isn't a citizen is probably one thing that could save them right about now yet they won't touch it with a ten foot pole.

because this is in no way clear cut and is a silly technicality. this is a major low down shot in the dark attack McCain would be foolish to touch with a ten foot poll. At one time it didn't mean it wasn't true.

[FromWayDowntown]

A "case" or a suit?

I could file the suit I referenced above in any of those states. It doesn't mean I have a case.

I might eb a little better informed on it if it was actually that big a story.

I'm going out right now to file a lawsuit against whottt demanding that he produce not only his original birth certificate, but an accounting for every dollar in cash that he's ever spent in his life. And I'm going to file that suit in at least 12 states. Obviously, my suits and the claims I've asserted in them are meritorious -- after all, I filed suits in multiple states.

[FromWayDowntown]

Judges hate to have their asses handed to them by higher courts. The precedents that appear to have been set regarding standing of the plaintiffs give the impression that most of these cases are going to be dismissed as quickly as this Washington state case of which you are so thoroughly informed.

Come on -- you should hear elected judges on the campaign trail bragging that 15% of their decisions were reversed by higher courts.

[ChumpDumper]

PS: And Ohio.The man who filed a lawsuit in Warren County last week questioning whether Barack Obama is a "natural-born" U.S. citizen owns a company that sells products to help users of illegal drugs pass employers' drug screenings.

http://www.daytondailynews.com/n/content/oh/story/news/local/2008/10/28/ddn102808lawsuit.html


Ya'll are so fucking informed...:lmao

[Spurminator]

What ever.. 8>1

I wrote Hawaii Supreme Court because when I Googled "Obama birth certificate supreme court" pretty much every story referred to the HI court. So I assumed no case had been brought to the US Supreme Court.

It was only when I read an article about Berg's frustration over having his suit dismissed, and his claim that he was going to take it to the US SC, that I realized what you were talking about.

[LnGrrrR]

You should file a lawsuit and bring your evidence. I mean, it's easy to say you don't like it then sit in your ass and do nothing about it.

I would love to see him explaining his 'standing' to bring the case before the courts. I'd watch that on Pay-Per-View.

[ChumpDumper]

More from the linked Ohio article:

In the lawsuit, Neal lists his address as 6117 Hendrickson Road. That's the address of his company, ACS Herbal Tea Co., which sells products that "cleanse blood, urine, saliva or hair within an hour," according to the company's Web site. ACS products include Urine Luck Solution, Magnum Synthetic Urine, Ultra Saliva Detox Kit and, "for heavy users," the Eight Day Complete Detox.

"There is no reason anyone should lose his or her job, or not be hired for a position due to a failed drug test," the Web site proclaims. "We will show you how. Whether it's marijuana, cocaine, amphetamines or opiates, you can rest assured that we can help you pass all drug tests!"

This is whottt's soul mate.

[whottt]

Let me know when one of those suits rules that Obama has to show the certificate in court. In the meantime suits mean pretty much nothing. Just more shit for the courts to throw out.


If you don't think the fact that he refuses to do it hurts him you are extremely naive...

[whottt]

No one cares Whottt.

You guys sure do jump on eveyrone of these threads and attack anyone who dares to bring it up, that sure is a funny reaction from people that don't care...and it is starting to make the news cycles, slowly but surely.



If its becoming such a big issue why doesn't the McCain campaign reach out to it?

#1. Because they'd look like fools when and if Obama produces the birth certificate.

#2. They don't have to.



I mean showing that Obama isn't a citizen is probably one thing that could save them right about now yet they won't touch it with a ten foot pole.


I know I know...you feel so confident.

[whottt]

:rollin

My that was quick...

Pop quiz, find the qualifier in the following statement, hotshot:

"McCain will win in a landslide, unless there is massive vote fraud".


Here watch this:

1. I predict McCain will win with no qualifiers.

2. If if I see evidence of massive voter fraud I am going to make an issue of it. Whether McCain wins or not.



Just because you lack the synaptic freeways to understand my point doesn't mean there isn't one.




Tell me asshat...if you see someone attempting to murder someone...do you blow it off about it onc they fail?

[ElNono]

You guys sure do jump on eveyrone of these threads and attack anyone who dares to bring it up, that sure is a funny reaction from people that don't care...and it is starting to make the news cycles, slowly but surely.

#1. Because they'd look like fools when and if Obama produces the birth certificate.

#2. They don't have to.

I know I know...you feel so confident.

Nobody cares... :sleep
What is this? Massive Voter Fraud part 2?

[ElNono]

Tell me asshat...if you see someone attempting to murder someone...do you blow it off about it onc they fail?

oh no!!!! another whottt analogy... :blah

[whottt]

I know for a fact I asked whottt for the number of fraudulent votes cast. He proceeded to lose his shit and put me on ignore and to fate has never produced any fraudulent votes.


You were asking for the number of fraudulent votes for days before I even became part of your argument...I knew full well what you wanted.


I called it massive voter fraud before you started that opinion BTW...I simply knew you had a limited definition of massive when I baited you as you were asking a stupid question from what you believed to be an unimpeachable position.

Live by the hair split, die by the hair split.


BTW....I can produce fraudulent votes, I just fail to see the purpose in doing so since I already know how you will respond. I don't need to produce them to prove massive voter fraud...

[whottt]

I know for a fact that whottt is talking about the Reagan/Carter election and he cited polls taken before but not after their rather pivotal debate that occurred just about a week before the election. Now, I am completely open to the idea of a game changer for McCain even this late, but whottt is just flat out lying when he says the circumstances are identical.

I didn't say the circumstances were identical, now did I?




I don't know exactly why whottt has started blatantly lying with such consistency because he never had to in the past. I can only conclude that he feels his self-perceived e-reputation of being right is at stake (hint: he's often wrong, he just never talks about it), and that is more important than anything.


Asshat...you yourself said the poll went from showing a Carter victory to a tossup in the days before the election...

Guess what same poll showed today? Ironically enough...after October 26th...

You made some excuse that the landslide was the result of Carter losing the debate, I never said one way or the other, only that the candidate that caused all the viewers to tune was eventually part of the winning ticket...

And oh yeah...I also pointed out that tossup or not...that's still not a Regan landslide...

I didn't lie...I don't have to.


I suggest the psycopath card...pussy.

[whottt]

I wrote Hawaii Supreme Court because when I Googled "Obama birth certificate supreme court" pretty much every story referred to the HI court. So I assumed no case had been brought to the US Supreme Court.

It was only when I read an article about Berg's frustration over having his suit dismissed, and his claim that he was going to take it to the US SC, that I realized what you were talking about.

I fail to see why it's such a big issue to ask Obama to produce his birth certificate...I've had to produce mine before.

[MannyIsGod]

I fail to see why it's such a big issue to ask Obama to produce his birth certificate...I've had to produce mine before.

Do you produce one for every asshole 9/11 nut job who asks you one on the street? Or do you draw a line somewhere?

[whottt]

God Bless You, but it aint happening. It's going to be President Obama.



Just out of curiosity, why do you think that?

[whottt]

Do you produce one for every asshole 9/11 nut job who asks you one on the street? Or do you draw a line somewhere?


If I'm running for President I have exactly no problem producing my birth certificate...in fact I'm proud to do so. I also consider it an intelligent thing to do as it pertains to winning the election...at least when compared to the likely impact(no matter the scale) of not producing it. If I'm running for President I want the issue resolved immediately to the satisfaction of all.

[MannyIsGod]

If I'm running for President I have exactly no problem producing my birth certificate...in fact I'm proud to do so. I also consider it an intelligent thing to do as it pertains to winning the election...at least when compared to the likely impact(no matter the scale) of not producing it. If I'm running for President I want the issue resolved immediately to the satisfaction of all.

It was a yes or no question.

[whottt]

It was a yes or no question.



Not the way you posed it...


Posing it in yes or no fashion woud have gone something like this:

If you were running for President would you produce your birth certificate to show you were born in America?

Yes, yes I would.

[whottt]

I'm going out right now to file a lawsuit against whottt demanding that he produce not only his original birth certificate, but an accounting for every dollar in cash that he's ever spent in his life. And I'm going to file that suit in at least 12 states. Obviously, my suits and the claims I've asserted in them are meritorious -- after all, I filed suits in multiple states.


I never said anything about it being meritorious...but it would be an issue, especially if it was in multiple states.


BTW...I disagree strongly with opinion on judges...I've worked campaigns for Judges before...I've seen how they get their funding, I've seen their ethics, I'd bumped elbows with them in balls at the Governors mansion...not impressed with them...

And the underhanded and frankly juvenile tactics in local judicial elections are completely out of control....what an embarrasment to think such highly educated people sink to such trashy levels.


The guy I worked for that ran for Judge was a Democrat Lawyer BTW...


LOL he was running for Judge of the DWI court and he drove home drunk every night.


He also fucked poor people every chance he got behind their backs all the while claiming to be their best buddy to their face.

And I met a lot of Democrat defense attorneys during that period..and Judges running for election...

[ElNono]

If I'm running for President I have exactly no problem producing my birth certificate...in fact I'm proud to do so. I also consider it an intelligent thing to do as it pertains to winning the election...at least when compared to the likely impact(no matter the scale) of not producing it. If I'm running for President I want the issue resolved immediately to the satisfaction of all.

He did produce it. He requires to produce it in order to enter the primaries.

[MannyIsGod]

Whottt, if you were running for president would you produce your birth certificate to everyone who asked for it?

[ElNono]

I never said anything about it being meritorious...but it would be an issue, especially if it was in multiple states.


BTW...I disagree strongly with opinion on judges...I've worked campaigns for Judges before...I've seen how they get their funding, I've seen their ethics, I'd bumped elbows with them in balls at the Governors mansion...not impressed with them...

And the underhanded and frankly juvenile tactics in local judicial elections are completely out of control....what an embarrasment to think such highly educated people sink to such trashy levels.


The guy I worked for that ran for Judge was a Democrat Lawyer BTW...


LOL he was running for Judge of the DWI court and he drove home drunk every night.


He also fucked poor people every chance he got behind their backs all the while claiming to be their best buddy to their face.

And I met a lot of Democrat defense attorneys during that period..and Judges running for election...

Now you sound like a truther... Judges are all corrupt...
I should have known being a Palin bitch and what not...

[ElNono]

If I'm running for President I have exactly no problem producing my birth certificate...in fact I'm proud to do so. I also consider it an intelligent thing to do as it pertains to winning the election...at least when compared to the likely impact(no matter the scale) of not producing it. If I'm running for President I want the issue resolved immediately to the satisfaction of all.

He presented a certified copy of his birth certificate, valid in all US courts.
So he did present it. Now what?

[MaryAnnKilledGinger]

But it's not funny that Obama won't show his birth certificate...that's not funny at all.

You know what's really not funny? That Bush and Cheney have set so many bad precedents during their rein that it's now difficult for some Republicans to recognize when someone is standing up for their principles.

[ChumpDumper]

Why did whottt start responding to my posts again?

I haven't met his stringent criteria for reinstatement.

And yeah, the debate was the game changer in 1980. Where is your game changer now?

Joe the Plumber?

The 9/11 truther cocks you are sucking?

Your druggie friend in Ohio?

Wild Cobra?

Some poster pretending to be Glenn Beck?

You?

Please let us all know what is going to change this election like the 1980 debate.

We're waiting.

[ChumpDumper]

You were asking for the number of fraudulent votes for days before I even became part of your argument...I knew full well what you wanted. I wanted fraudulent votes. You produced none.

Zero.

Zilch.

Nada.

That is not Massive by any definition.



I called it massive voter fraud before you started that opinion BTW...I simply knew you had a limited definition of massive when I baited you as you were asking a stupid question from what you believed to be an unimpeachable position.I'm still asking. How many fraudulent votes. You can tell me where and why they are Massive
.



Live by the hair split, die by the hair split.Why don't you just tell us about the fraudulent votes, douchenugget? Why are you afraid?



BTW....I can produce fraudulent votes, I just fail to see the purpose in doing so since I already know how you will respond. I don't need to produce them to prove massive voter fraud...You can't prove Massive Vote Fraud without producing any fraudulent votes.

You can't prove anything, so you just made up a bunch of bullshit to cover your ass. You got caught in yet another lie and you lost your shit over it. Too fucking bad. Give us all your evidence of Massive Vote Fraud or just keep sucking truther cock until Palin loses.

[whottt]

Whottt, if you were running for president would you produce your birth certificate to everyone who asked for it?


No...and I'm not expecting Obama to do that either.

[MannyIsGod]

No...and I'm not expecting Obama to do that either.

No, you're just expecting him to produce it for the people you approve of but fortunately no one gives a shit about the Whottt seal of approval much less the US Judicial system.

[Das Texan]

No...and I'm not expecting Obama to do that either.

so why are you making this the ridiculous issue you are making it out to be when you wouldnt even do the same thing.


you get more and more unbelievable by the day.

[whottt]

No, you're just expecting him to produce it for the people you approve of but fortunately no one gives a shit about the Whottt seal of approval much less the US Judicial system.


False...I'm expecting him to produce it in a court case and get it over with. Then he doesn't have to produce it anymore....


Until he produces it, it's going to remain an issue. He's only running for President.

I am sorry but it doesn't speak well for any of you guys that you are supporting him loopholing his way out of this. Sounds desperate to me.

[Spurminator]

False...I'm expecting him to produce it in a court case and get it over with. Then he doesn't have to produce it anymore.


Until he produces it, it's going to remain an issue.


Why shouldn't he wait until a court considers it necessary to require that he produce it?

[whottt]

Why shouldn't he wait until a court considers it necessary to require that he produce it?


Because he's running for President...it's not like we're asking the cocksucker to put his hand over his heart when the National Anthem plays or anything...

Repeated once more for emphasis: Cock Sucker

[Shastafarian]

So he's gotta find the original copy even though he has a certified document stating he was born in the U.S.A? Really? That's where you wanna go?

[RichardSimmons]

Repeated once more for emphasis: Cock Sucker

I like the way you emphasize!! :elephant

[RandomGuy]

Here watch this:

1. I predict McCain will win with no qualifiers.

2. If if I see evidence of massive voter fraud I am going to make an issue of it. Whether McCain wins or not.


Just because you lack the synaptic freeways to understand my point doesn't mean there isn't one.


Tell me asshat...if you see someone attempting to murder someone...do you blow it off about it onc they fail?

:lol

Thanks for the funny. I love you man, and am glad you post here. It really makes my day.

[Spurminator]

Because he's running for President...it's not like we're asking the cocksucker to put his hand over his heart when the National Anthem plays or anything...

You could say that about any douchebag truther nutjob who asked for his birth certificate. Why not? It's not that hard.

If no court requires it, it's not an issue. As evidenced by the fact that this is not in the news.

[FromWayDowntown]

I never said anything about it being meritorious...but it would be an issue, especially if it was in multiple states.

So, essentially, you're saying that because there are a number of lawsuits -- no matter how meritorious those suits are -- Obama should give them enough credence to address them on their merits??? Really?

How is it an issue if the suits are completely frivolous?

If people in multiple states alleged that Sarah Palin was an idiot -- no matter the merits of that accusation -- and filed suit seeking judicial declarations that Sarah Palin is an idiot, do you think she would be compelled to provide proof that she's not an idiot?

[whottt]

You could say that about any douchebag truther nutjob who asked for his birth certificate. Why not? It's not that hard.

If no court requires it, it's not an issue.

It's a loophole.




As evidenced by the fact that this is not in the news.


:lmao worst Spurminator post ever. You really think that's why it's not in the news?

[whottt]

So, essentially, you're saying that because there are a number of lawsuits -- no matter how meritorious those suits are -- Obama should give them enough credence to address them on their merits??? Really?

How is it an issue if the suits are completely frivolous?

If people in multiple states alleged that Sarah Palin was an idiot -- no matter the merits of that accusation -- and filed suit seeking judicial declarations that Sarah Palin is an idiot, do you think she would be compelled to provide proof that she's not an idiot?



Why change the comparison? Why not just ask if it was alleged in multiple states that Sarah Palin needed to show her birth certificate to prove she meets the citizenship requirements, would I be in favor of her showing her birth certificate to a court and getting it over with?

Of course I would be...


Whatever...it's only the most importaint job in the country, by all means get cute with it...because that's what people want in their President.

[ElNono]

:lmao worst Spurminator post ever. You really think that's why it's not in the news?

Why is it not in the news, other than they're frivolous lawsuits, oh mighty retard? :rolleyes

[Sigmund]

Repeated once more for emphasis: Cock Sucker

What makes you emphasize these words?

[Sigmund]

Why change the comparison? Why not just ask if it was alleged in multiple states that Sarah Palin needed to show her birth certificate to prove she meets the citizenship requirements, would I be in favor of her showing her birth certificate to a court and getting it over with?

Of course I would be...


Whatever...it's only the most importaint job in the country, by all means get cute with it...because that's what people want in their President.

I see.

Tell me, what do you associate Mrs. Palin with?

[ElNono]

What makes you emphasize these words?

LOL!!!!! :lmao
Freud FTW!

[doobs]

Look, if Obama were only 34 years old, would anyone disagree with disqualifying him? I hope not--you can't pick and choose the laws or constitutional provisions you want to follow. This seems to be a dead-end, though.

Maybe we should just conquer Kenya and declare all Kenyan-born people to be natural born citizens of the United States.

[ElNono]

Look, if Obama were only 34 years old, would anyone disagree with disqualifying him? I hope not--you can't pick and choose the laws or constitutional provisions you want to follow. This seems to be a dead-end, though.

Maybe we should just conquer Kenya and declare all Kenyan-born people to be natural born citizens of the United States.

Don't tell dubya. He's all for more land grabbing...

[Sigmund]

False...I'm expecting him to produce it in a court case and get it over with. Then he doesn't have to produce it anymore....


Until he produces it, it's going to remain an issue. He's only running for President.

I am sorry but it doesn't speak well for any of you guys that you are supporting him loopholing his way out of this. Sounds desperate to me.

Why are you concerned with Mr. Obama producing "it"?

If he produced "it" how would you feel? Would you stare at "it"?

[Sigmund]

Don't tell dubya. He's all for more land grabbing...

I see.

Tell me more about "grabbing". How does "grabbing" make you feel?

[ElNono]

I see.

Tell me more about "grabbing". How does "grabbing" make you feel?

:lmao

[ChumpDumper]

Look, if Obama were only 34 years old, would anyone disagree with disqualifying him? I hope not--you can't pick and choose the laws or constitutional provisions you want to follow.But you can pick and choose which double standard you are going to apply in this case. :rolleyes


Maybe we should just conquer Kenya and declare all Kenyan-born people to be natural born citizens of the United States.Maybe you should just accept a document that is accepted in every court in the United States.

Maybe you shouldn't suck the cocks of 9/11 truthers and urine test cheating hucksters.

[doobs]

But you can pick and choose which double standard you are going to apply in this case. :rolleyes

Maybe you should just accept a document that is accepted in every court in the United States.

Maybe you shouldn't suck the cocks of 9/11 truthers and urine test cheating hucksters.

What double standard? Didn't I say this is a dead-end?

There's no indication that Obama wasn't born in Hawaii. I think it's a stupid rule, but I respect the rules. If Obama was 34 years old, he should be disqualified. If Obama was born in Kenya, he should be disqualified. Do you disagree?

[ElNono]

What double standard? Didn't I say this is a dead-end?

There's no indication that Obama wasn't born in Hawaii. I think it's a stupid rule, but I respect the rules. If Obama was 34 years old, he should be disqualified. If Obama was born in Kenya, he should be disqualified. Do you disagree?

There's actual evidence he was born in Hawaii. What do you need to know?

[ChumpDumper]

What double standard? Didn't I say this is a dead-end?You are acting like Obama has shown no proof of citizenship.


There's no indication that Obama wasn't born in Hawaii. I think it's a stupid rule, but I respect the rules. If Obama was 34 years old, he should be disqualified. If Obama was born in Kenya, he should be disqualified. Do you disagree?I think it's a fine rule, and it has been proven to be met.

[doobs]

There's actual evidence he was born in Hawaii. What do you need to know?

I think I'm being misunderstood. I'm saying this is a dead-end because there's no proof that he was born outside the US. That's a fact issue, and I presume that Obama was born in Hawaii. I don't need to know anything. This whole birth certificate "controversy" is just a hot, steamy pile of crap.

But I'm also saying that it's not an irrelevant or stupid question--if there's a legitimate reason to doubt his place of birth, then it's an issue. Just as age or residency or citizenship are issues, too, when it comes to presidential qualifications.

Personally, I think we should just trust the wisdom of the voters, but that's not what the Constitution envisioned. President Schwarzenegger has a nice ring to it.

[ChumpDumper]

I think I'm being misunderstood. I'm saying this is a dead-end because there's no proof that he was born outside the US. That's a fact issue, and I presume that Obama was born in Hawaii. I don't need to know anything. This whole birth certificate "controversy" is just a hot, steamy pile of crap.

But I'm also saying that it's not an irrelevant or stupid question--if there's a legitimate reason to doubt his place of birth, then it's an issue. Just as age or residency or citizenship are issues, too, when it comes to presidential qualifications.

Personally, I think we should just trust the wisdom of the voters, but that's not what the Constitution envisioned. President Schwarzenegger has a nice ring to it.Are you saying there is a legitimate reason to doubt his place of birth?

Yes or no.

[doobs]

Are you saying there is a legitimate reason to doubt his place of birth?

Yes or no.

No. I never did. Read what I wrote.

[ChumpDumper]

Great. I'm glad you made yourself clear.

[doobs]

Great. I'm glad you made yourself clear.

Just FYI, chief:


I'm saying this is a dead-end because there's no proof that he was born outside the US. That's a fact issue, and I presume that Obama was born in Hawaii. I don't need to know anything. This whole birth certificate "controversy" is just a hot, steamy pile of crap.

Ergo, there's no legitimate reason to question his place of birth.

Reading is FUN-damental.

[ElNono]

I think I'm being misunderstood. I'm saying this is a dead-end because there's no proof that he was born outside the US. That's a fact issue, and I presume that Obama was born in Hawaii. I don't need to know anything. This whole birth certificate "controversy" is just a hot, steamy pile of crap.

But I'm also saying that it's not an irrelevant or stupid question--if there's a legitimate reason to doubt his place of birth, then it's an issue. Just as age or residency or citizenship are issues, too, when it comes to presidential qualifications.


The question is entirely irrelevant and stupid. If there was any legitimate reason to doubt his place of birth, then it would have come up before being allowed to run the primaries. The fact that there was no doubt about his qualifications when the checks were made back then and he actually did run the primaries, makes this whole FUD campaign idiotic.


Personally, I think we should just trust the wisdom of the voters, but that's not what the Constitution envisioned. President Schwarzenegger has a nice ring to it.

I actually think we should abide by the law. That's what Obama did.

[FromWayDowntown]

But I'm also saying that it's not an irrelevant or stupid question--if there's a legitimate reason to doubt his place of birth, then it's an issue. Just as age or residency or citizenship are issues, too, when it comes to presidential qualifications.

You're absolutely right -- if there was a legitimate question.

But it will take something other than a slew of frivolous lawsuits to convince me that there's a legitimate question about whether Obama (or anyone else for that matter) meets the basic qualifications to be President.

whottt seems to think that just because the question is raised repeatedly, it's legitimate. That strikes me as being a bit like requiring someone to prove that the Earth is round just because a number of people contend that the Earth is flat.

[Spurminator]

:lmao worst Spurminator post ever. You really think that's why it's not in the news?


It's not even in the CONSERVATIVE news. Aside from fringe blogs and sites this is not getting any play.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=obama+birth+certificate

Look at the websites and the dates.




And I've had several posts worse than that one.

[whottt]

You're absolutely right -- if there was a legitimate question.

But it will take something other than a slew of frivolous lawsuits to convince me that there's a legitimate question about whether Obama (or anyone else for that matter) meets the basic qualifications to be President.

whottt seems to think that just because the question is raised repeatedly, it's legitimate. That strikes me as being a bit like requiring someone to prove that the Earth is round just because a number of people contend that the Earth is flat.



It's funny how you guys defend this as some act of principle...yet Obama showed it to several websites...your principle argument is crap.


He seems willing to show it to anyone but the courts...that is the perception.


As for why this all came about...allegedly his own Kenyan Grandmother and siblings seem to recall being present at his birth in Kenya.



Bottomline....if you think these cases being dismissed with Obama refusing to show his birth certificate is a positive for Obama you evidentally don't understand American politics.

[whottt]

There's going to be a protest at the Supreme Court concerning this issue...there is also a petition to pursue action against Obama on this issue in all 50 states...

If you guys think this is getting smaller, you're frankly being stupid...lots of people don't like Obama...this is just ammunition for them once they get wind of it.


It was stupid for him to not just show it...


I know I know...how dare a President be accountable to US citizens when he's so obvioulsyabove them...I got your message pages ago.

And you wonder why we call you elitists.

[MannyIsGod]

There's no perception because there is only dead air. You can continue to claim it a news story but its simply not and no amount of posts by you claiming it to be so will change that. Find me the footage of a news show covering it recently please.

[whottt]

It's begun to make the ticker on Fox News. I don't have a screen cap.

If an appeal to the Supreme Court on a case concerning the citizenship of a US Presidential Candidate doesn't make the news...we all need to be concerned.

[MannyIsGod]

LOL Fox News ticker. Watch out now!

[whottt]

It's not even in the CONSERVATIVE news. Aside from fringe blogs and sites this is not getting any play.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=obama+birth+certificate

Look at the websites and the dates.




And I've had several posts worse than that one.


The reason the majority of the media outlets aren't touching it is because they generally bury any thing negative towards Obama...

The reason Fox isn't touching it is because they don't want to be the Cable equivalent of the National Enquirer and be the only one covering it and then Obama produces his birth certificate.


Basically it's pretty obvious that these are trumped up allegations...I myself have admitted as much. It's obvious what Berg's intent is...

Or at least it was...until Obama began acting increasingly suspicious about it.


The only reason this thing has legs is because of Obama himself...and it's getting more and more legs the longer he attempts to get the case thrown out and pass Fact Check.org off as a the last word in legal authentication.

[Mr. Peabody]

It's begun to make the ticker on Fox News. I don't have a screen cap.

If an appeal to the Supreme Court on a case concerning the citizenship of a US Presidential Candidate doesn't make the news...we all need to be concerned.

The "ticker"?:lmao

Fox News ran a "Fox News Alert" on Obama attending a madrasa. How'd that work out for them?:lol

[ElNono]

The reason the majority of the media outlets aren't touching it is because they generally bury any thing negative towards Obama...

The reason Fox isn't touching it is because they don't want to be the Cable equivalent of the National Enquirer and be the only one covering it and then Obama produces his birth certificate.


Basically it's pretty obvious that these are trumped up allegations...I myself have admitted as much. It's obvious what Berg's intent is...

Or at least it was...until Obama began acting increasingly suspicious about it.


The only reason this thing has legs is because of Obama himself...and it's getting more and more legs the longer he attempts to get the case thrown out and pass Fact Check.org off as a the last word in legal authentication.

You said it was all over the news... now 'the media outlets aren't touching it'??? Which one is it? Is it news worthy or not?