The question that just don't die or go away for Obama?

[whottt]

His birth certificate.


I haven't posted much on it but that lawyer's suit against Obama is still in the air.

Obama was supposed to produce his birth certificate by September 24th and instead filed a motion to throw the case out at the last second...the lawyer has now filed a motion to dismiss his complaint and the motion is awaiting judgement.


My question...why doesn't Obama just produce the birth certificate?

I know why Fox and the McCain camp aren't making noise about it...because if he actually does have a birth certificate they are going to come off as complete assholes. And I could easily see Obama wanting that if he does indeed have a legit birth certificate...I mean after all, it's not in the media at all and it's basically a buried story on the internet, so why bother?


Still...the fact that he won't produce it does give plenty of reasons to question him.

And I'm sorry but him showing a website the certificate of live birth doesn't constitute satifactory proof.

[MannyIsGod]

http://www.factcheck.org/UploadedFiles/birth_certificate_2.jpg

[whottt]

Already seen it and it's covered in the lawsuit...the lawyer says that is a fraud.

An accusation given credence due to the fact that Obama didn't show it to the court.

[MannyIsGod]

:lol @ given credence.

Ok. I believe Factcheck.org over this dude any day of the week.

[MannyIsGod]

A separate WND investigation into Obama's birth certificate utilizing forgery experts also found the document to be authentic. The investigation also revealed methods used by some of the bloggers to determine the document was fake involved forgeries, in that a few bloggers added text and images to the certificate scan that weren't originally there.

Such a non issue. World Net Daily of all the places.

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=73214

[whottt]

If it's such a non-issue why didn't he show it to the courts?

[MannyIsGod]

The court hasn't said he has to. Why give credence to this dude if you don't have to? When the court orders him to do so, he will. Until then I wouldn't expect it to be shown in court. He's already produced copies so believe what you will.

[MannyIsGod]

I don't know what more you want.
http://cdn.factcheck.org/imagefiles/Ask%20FactCheck%20Images/Birth%20Certificate/hands.jpg
http://cdn.factcheck.org/imagefiles/Ask%20FactCheck%20Images/Birth%20Certificate/signature.jpg
http://cdn.factcheck.org/imagefiles/Ask%20FactCheck%20Images/Birth%20Certificate/seal.jpg

[ChumpDumper]

I have never seen whottt this desperate.

[whottt]

The court hasn't said he has to. Why give credence to this dude if you don't have to?

I agree, why do it? That's exactly what he's doing by not showing it.

He could make the guy look like a complete idiot just by showing it.

I can see why he wouldn't show it even if he had it...that said, he hasn't shown it just to get rid of this nagging issue.



When the court orders him to do so, he will. Until then I wouldn't expect it to be shown in court. He's already produced copies so believe what you will.


He's shown them to a website...a website.

[whottt]

I have never seen whottt this desperate.


I'm not deperate...just reading a lot of articles with a right slant usually only reserved for the left.


I can kinda see why lefties get brainwashed after a while reading this sort of shit.


That said...I'll feel better when he shows the court the birth certificate.


I know seeing it on the internet is good enough fro you...then again you once thought Beno had balls. I think that says it all right there.

[MannyIsGod]

:lmao

Yeah ok.

Shit like this is why I just need to stop taking you seriously until after the election. You've lost it.

[whottt]

BTW, the reason I'm reading more articles with that sort of slant is becuase there are a bunch of Democrats voting Republican now....and they are doing to the Democrats what they did to the Republicans when they were Democrats.

[whottt]

If it's on the internet it must be true

[ChumpDumper]

I'm not deperate...just reading a lot of articles with a right slant usually only reserved for the left.


I can kinda see why lefties get brainwashed after a while reading this sort of shit.


That said...I'll feel better when he shows the court the birth certificate.Look, we both know that you are doing this because you are feeling bad about falling in love with Palin. I don't blame you -- you have never looked this bad on the internets ever. It's a very sad time for you -- but don't pretend this issue hasn't been settled long ago by people who have held this document in their hands. And don't be such a pussy as to try to change the subject to basketball.

I used to think you were better than that -- but you just lower the bar for yourself with every attempt to try to deny your love for Palin.

[whottt]

And don't be such a pussy as to try to change the subject to basketball.

Sure...if you'll stop dragging Palin into every post.




I used to think you were better than that -- but you just lower the bar for yourself with every attempt to try to deny your love for Palin.


Oh please...like you're unbiased. You've had your mind made up since 2004.

[ChumpDumper]

Sure...if you'll stop dragging Palin into every post.Quit being in love with her first. That's the cause of all your desperation posting. I'm trying to help. The birth certificate issue is long dead.





Oh please...like you're unbiased. You've had your mind made up since 2004.I'm voting for McCain.

[whottt]

Beno's got...huge balls





I'm voting for McCain.


Well I'm not necessarily sold on him after the Senate Bill today. Ron Paul is looking better and better all the time.


Then again....he banked like shit when that House Bill didn't get passed. And he's cut off his campaign with 4 mil in contributions unspent.

[whottt]

You guys can accuse me of being as far gone as the average lefty when I start posting shit like this in seriousness:

A9O29bt9meA

[ChumpDumper]

Bullshit noise.Not changing the fact that the birth certificate issue is DOA.

[whottt]

Not in the courts it isn't.

[ChumpDumper]

Ah yes, the Philip J. Berg lawsuit.

Let me know how his RICO suit against the Bush administration for making or letting the events of 9/11 happen works out too.

You're really pathetic now, whottt. This is just fucking sad.

[whottt]

Ah yes, the Philip J. Berg lawsuit.


Let me know how his RICO suit against the Bush administration for making or letting the events of 9/11 happen works out too.


Different setting...he was hired by 9/11 families for that lawsuit...this one is all his own.


I mean I can see the potential for a scam here...he's accepting contributions to pursue the suit...but why doesn't Obama just show the shit and get it over with?

[SnakeBoy]

You guys can accuse me of being as far gone as the average lefty when I start posting shit like this in seriousness:

A9O29bt9meA


Hey that video is real! You can tell that Obama is Osama because he's still wearing the same suit from pakistan. And you know the photos weren't altered because it says so right in the video.

[ChumpDumper]

Different setting...he was hired by 9/11 families for that lawsuit...this one is all his own.


I mean I can see the potential for a scam here...he's accepting contributions to pursue the suit...but why doesn't Obama just show the shit and get it over with?He already did.

Damn, you don't even try any more. I can't tell you how depressing this is.

[whottt]

He already did.

To fact check fucking org?

[ChumpDumper]

To fact check fucking org?Yes.

Please, whottt -- please make the trip to Chicago and request to look at and hold the document yourself.

Do it now. You obviously have nothing better to do.

You are now a fucking joke. Congratulations.

[ChumpDumper]

Dude, even the right wing site that started all this by rehashing Jerome Corsi's ridiculous bullshit has figured it out:

A separate WND investigation into Obama's birth certificate utilizing forgery experts also found the document to be authentic. The investigation also revealed methods used by some of the bloggers to determine the document was fake involved forgeries, in that a few bloggers added text and images to the certificate scan that weren't originally there.

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=73214

Even these guys have conceded.

When will you?

[whottt]

Yes.

Fact check.org: owned by the Annenberg Foundation

Check the logo and the ownershipstatement at the bottom for the University of Penn where the Annenberg has a school of communication.
http://factcheck.org/

Subsidiary of the Annenberg Foundation: The Chicago Annenberg Challenge

LinkL:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Annenberg_Foundation


Chairman of the board of the Chicago Annenberg Challenge 1995-1999: Barrack Hussen Obama.

Oh yeah, it was founded by William Ayers.

Link:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicago_Annenberg_Challenge


Sorry...Factcheck.org is not good enough.


It's just the internet.

[ChumpDumper]

You're a little late.

Let me know who owns these guys, please.

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=73214

And really, if you are going to bitch about anything on the internets, I expect nothing less than your taking your pathetic ass on a plane to Chicago and/or Hawaii to get to the real noninternets truth.

And I don't expect you to post until you personally resolve what you claim is the burning issue of the election season.

Get to it.

[whottt]

You're a little late.

Let me know who owns these guys, please.

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=73214

And really, if you are going to bitch about anything on the internets, I expect nothing less than your taking your pathetic ass on a plane to Chicago and/or Hawaii to get to the real noninternets truth.

And I don't expect you to post until you personally resolve what you claim is the burning issue of the election season.

Get to it.


Damn...you obviously didn't even read the article you posted. I suggest you read it again. Meanwhile...I'll go on wondering why Obama doesn't just show his birth certificate to the court and get it over with.

[ChumpDumper]

I did.

A separate WND investigation into Obama's birth certificate utilizing forgery experts also found the document to be authentic. The investigation also revealed methods used by some of the bloggers to determine the document was fake involved forgeries, in that a few bloggers added text and images to the certificate scan that weren't originally there.

Did you?

You are bitching about the certificate -- or are you going to try to change the subject again?

[ChumpDumper]

Regardless, you'll just say it's the internet and doesn't count.

So get to it, Scoop.

Go to the source.

This is that important to you, isn't it?

[whottt]

I did.


Did you?

You are bitching about the certificate -- or are you going to try to change the subject again?

RIF:


The suit alleges that while records exist of a "registry of birth" for Obama in Hawaii (filed four days after his claimed birthday), no records exist of his mother's stay in any Hawaii hospital, suggesting she may have given birth elsewhere and filed the registration shortly thereafter on American soil.

"Obama's grandmother on his father's side, half brother and half sister claim Obama was born in Kenya," the suit states. "Reports reflect Obama's mother went to Kenya during her pregnancy; however, she was prevented from boarding a flight from Kenya to Hawaii at her late stage of pregnancy, which apparently was a normal restriction to avoid births during a flight. Stanley Ann Dunham (Obama) gave birth to Obama in Kenya, after which she flew to Hawaii and registered Obama's birth."

The claim could not be verified by WND inquiries to Hawaiian hospitals, since state law bars the hospitals from releasing medical records to the public.

[whottt]

I bet you're really gonna get nasty now :lol

He ought to just show it to the courts. It's probably BS, but why doesn't he just show it to the fucking court?

If he'd just show it to the courts...this would be over. You know they gave him a deadline and all he had to do...was show it, and he didn't. That's entirely the reason you and I are having this dicussion.

[ChumpDumper]

I bet you're really gonna get nasty now :lol

He ought to just show it to the courts. It's probably BS, but why doesn't he just show it to the fucking court?

If he'd just show it to the courts...this would be over. You know they gave him a deadline and all he had to do...was show it, and he didn't. That's entirely the reason you and I are having this dicussion.No, the reason we are having this discussion is that you have become so desperate that you are getting sloppy and not even bothering to even google the barest details of these issues anymore.

Here's another article by folks who have seen the document.


At PolitiFact.com, we’re all about original sources. We don’t take anyone at their word or take the reporting of other media organizations as proof. We go to the heart of the story, the source of the truth — original, corroborating documents.

When the official documents were questioned, we went looking for more answers. We circled back to the Department of Health, had a newsroom colleague bring in her own Hawaii birth certificate to see if it looks the same (it’s identical). But every answer triggered more questions.

And soon enough, after going to every length possible to confirm the birth certificate’s authenticity, you start asking, what is reasonable here?

Because if this document is forged, then they all are.

If this document is forged, a U.S. senator and his presidential campaign have perpetrated a vast, long-term fraud. They have done it with conspiring officials at the Hawaii Department of Health, the Cook County (Ill.) Bureau of Vital Statistics, the Illinois Secretary of State’s office, the Attorney Registration & Disciplinary Commission of the Supreme Court of Illinois and many other government agencies.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2008/jun/27/obamas-birth-certificate-part-ii/

So are you really going the route of the other conspiracy theorists on the forum? Really?

And just in case you were going to spout off without checking again, it's St. Petersburg, Florida.

[whottt]

No, the reason we are having this discussion is that you have become so desperate that you are getting sloppy and not even bothering to even google the barest details of these issues anymore.

Sloppy? You are the asshat that has branded Palin an idiot and a liar(or some shit like that) for attempting to not give a hostile journalist a sound bite. Boy are you off...




Here's another article by folks who have seen the document.



http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2008/jun/27/obamas-birth-certificate-part-ii/

So like I was sayin'...should be no problem for him to take it and show it to the court. The longer he puts it off, the more the speculation is going to grow. And image is everything.

Look..

1. It's obvious this guy is a Clinton supporter that has it in for Obama and is fucking with him, trying to find anything he can get. He's trying to be a royal pain in the ass and arouse suspicion...at the least.

2. He's also taking donations to pursue the case.


But I sitll think Obama needs to show it to the court.

I try to think of the reasons he doesn't want to...

1. It won't do any good. This guy is on a pursuit for a long form birth certificate which is some kind of red tape BS Obama doesn't want to mess with in the middle of an election.

2. It'll be publicized, especially if he has to get the long form.

3. He thinks he can play it to his advantage.

4. He is pissed off and indignant it's actually gotten this far in court.



Nonthelesss...he needs to show it to the court and get it over with. It's in his best interest. IF that last article you posed it true...he should have just shown it.


So are you really going the route of the other conspiracy theorists on the forum? Really?

And if he doesn't...you better get used to hearing about it.

It's going to continue to nag until he shows it.

Especially if the case gets dismissed.




And just in case you were going to spout off without checking again, it's St. Petersburg, Florida.

LOL if that's your attempt to prove it's not a socialist plot you picked the wrong continent to use as an example. :lmao

The fact that it's a newspaper article written by a journalist is sufficient to arouse suspicion....regardless of Nation.

And fuck the Annenberg connection...all I have to see is that it's(factcheck) run by 3 journalists and a College Professor to be suspicious...after all, what chance is there that out of 3 journalists and a College Professor none of them are card carrying libs? :lol

[MannyIsGod]

LOL

You're the only one speculating. No one with any cred is talking about this. But sure, an issue from the summer that was long ago put to bed is now going to come up and be the focus of attention.

Why?

Because Whottt says so

Why is Palin qualified?

Because Whottt says so

Why are the polls wrong?

Because Whottt says so

And so on and so on.

[ChumpDumper]

He doesn't have to show it to the court because....he doesn't have to.

No one is talking about this except Berg and you, and you are both insane.

Seriously whottt, go to Chicago. Then go to Hawaii.

Until you do so, shut the fuck up. You set the bar, you follow through.

Fucking idiot. You are a shell of the poster you once were. All because you fell in love with some bitch who will never love you back.

Read it again.

Sarah Palin will never love you.

Now get busy on those travel plans, Scoop.

[whottt]

Manny...as a wise group of Americans once said to me...questioning your leaders is your Patriotic duty. ;)


Man if you guys are already getting this chapped you're going to be bouncing off the walls in 4 years if Obama should win. :lmao

[whottt]

He doesn't have to show it to the court because....he doesn't have to.

No one is talking about this except Berg and you, and you are both insane.

Seriously whottt, go to Chicago. Then go to Hawaii.

Until you do so, shut the fuck up. You set the bar, you follow through.

Fucking idiot. You are a shell of the poster you once were. All because you fell in love with some bitch who will never love you back.

Read it again.

Sarah Palin will never love you.

Now get busy on those travel plans, Scoop.

Defensive much?

[ChumpDumper]

Manny...as a wise group of Americans once said to me...questioning your leaders is your Patriotic duty. ;)


Man if you guys are already getting this chapped you're going to be bouncing off the walls in 4 years if Obama should win.Yeah, we'll be starting several desperate threads a day like you.

[ChumpDumper]

Defensive much?So when are you leaving town, Scoop?

[whottt]

Yeah, we'll be starting several desperate threads a day like you.


Worst Chumpism ever....totally missed the target.

[ChumpDumper]

Worst Chumpism ever....totally missed the target.I wouldn't be surprised. It's five in the morning and I'm trying to converse with someone who has clearly lost his shit.

Go start a thread about Obama's radical madras indoctrination.

And go to Chicago.

Dumbass.

[whottt]

I wouldn't be surprised. It's five in the morning and I'm trying to converse with someone who has clearly lost his shit.


I haven't lost shit...my logic is rational and reasonable. It's you that is defensive...





Go start a thread about Obama's radical madras indoctrination.

Did you know they have a video of him in muslim garb in the 80's? No shit.




And go to Chicago.

Dumbass.


My my...have a bit of the redass do we?

[ElNono]

Sloppy? You are the asshat that has branded Palin an idiot and a liar(or some shit like that) for attempting to not give a hostile journalist a sound bite. Boy are you off...

Kori just called her an airhead, and I don't see you calling her names... You know, Sarah is very disappointed that her little pet didn't defend her... PUSSY

[Findog]

<grasping at straws>

[NASCARdad]

Whottt is becoming as much of an embarrassment as palin.

[RandomGuy]

I have never seen whottt this desperate.

That's because you haven't gone with him to a "gentleman's club".

[RandomGuy]

I haven't lost shit...my logic is rational and reasonable. It's you that is defensive...


:lmao

"I'm rubber and you're glue...?"

:lmao

Oh, my this is better than the comics pages.

[RandomGuy]

http://www.trephination.net/gallery/macros/best_thread_ever.gif

[Extra Stout]

Look the logic here is solid...

Unless Obama produces his actual birth certificate...


Anything he has produced to this point is obviosuly not real...

Ask yourself...


Who is the one with something to hide?

I mean...

I'm not the one who is running for President with the middle name 'Hussein'...


Wouldn't it at least make sense to produce a birth certificiate with a middle name other than 'Hussein' ???

That's what you Democrats don't understand... it will never work...

This is obvious and unambiguous and you just have your heads in the sand...


Why would somebody with a middle name of Hussein produce a fake birth certificate with the middle name of Hussein? Why not Robert or Joseph or Thad or some nice American-sounding name?



You Dems are just crazy thinking the American people will vote for somebody who doesn't have the common sense not to put Hussein on his fake birth certificate...

Hussein...

[RandomGuy]

Look the logic here is solid...

Unless Obama produces his actual birth certificate...


Anything he has produced to this point is obviosuly not real...

Ask yourself...


Who is the one with something to hide?

I mean...

I'm not the one who is running for President with the middle name 'Hussein'...


Wouldn't it at least make sense to produce a birth certificiate with a middle name other than 'Hussein' ???

That's what you Democrats don't understand... it will never work...

This is obvious and unambiguous and you just have your heads in the sand...


Why would somebody with a middle name of Hussein produce a fake birth certificate with the middle name of Hussein? Why not Robert or Joseph or Thad or some nice American-sounding name?



You Dems are just crazy thinking the American people will vote for somebody who doesn't have the common sense not to put Hussein on his fake birth certificate...

Hussein...

That was one of the most wickedly clever satirical posts I have seen here in a long time.

I am sure the nuances are lost on whottt, but I get it. Props man. :tu

[spurster]

The real question is: Why does he keep his grandmother in a hut?

http://www.thespoof.com/news/spoof.cfm?headline=s3i40574

[JoeChalupa]

Whottt cracks me up. :lmao

[whottt]

I am sure the nuances are lost on whottt, but I get it.


Please...don't flatter yourself...it's not that hard to get, it's at least as easy as understanding what a Capital Gains Tax is.




Props man. :tu

I actually had to read it a couple of times to make sure he wasn't CnPing one of my old posts...that said, I've always said Obama was stupid to not change his middle name. It's going to be a negative for him.

[Shastafarian]

I actually had to read it a couple of times to make sure he wasn't CnPing one of my old posts...that said, I've always said Obama was stupid to not change his middle name. It's going to be a negative for him.

Senator Obama, why did you feel the need to change your middle name? Are you ashamed of your heritage?

[ChumpDumper]

Have you made it to Chicago yet, whottt?

[Extra Stout]

All you liberals who hate Sarah Palin because she's beautiful while you look like a lumberjack, tell me...


Is there any controversy with her birth certificate?




Wouldn't the media have dug it up if there were a problem?



I mean, they've gone after her for just about everything else...

And yet here is Obama... who won't even change his middle name on his fake birth certificate...


And yet you think he should be President...

I mean... I know Sarah Palin's middle name is Louise and that she was born in Sandpoint, Idaho...




I doubt have any doubts that she is American...


I even drove up to Sandpoint to find her birthplace... tried to purchase her childhood home... can't do that for Obama...




But yet you say she is unqualified because Katie Couric asks her stupid questions...



So you're smart because you let Oprah tell you who to vote for...









OK right... :tu

[Extra Stout]

I mean, is that how you decide who is qualified?








Being President is about how you answer Katie Couric's questions?






I looked in the Constitution.... didn't find that...

I found a part about being 35 and being a natural-born citizen.....









And you're telling me that some guy with the middle name Hussein whose birth certificate is a proven fake is qualified.....


Must be nice to live in that liberal dream world.... :tu

[Shastafarian]

It's scary how good you are at this :lol

[Findog]

It's scary how good you are at this :lol

Paragraph breaks for every sentence and ellipses, along with insults towards those who have the gall to disagree with you.

[Shastafarian]

Paragraph breaks for every sentence and ellipses, along with insults towards those who have the gall to disagree with you.

The one thing missing....my honest opinion about the matter....his ambiguous and ultimately unnecessary use of....

[shelshor]

Senator Obama, why did you feel the need to change your middle name? Are you ashamed of your heritage?

Well, there is this

http://obamawtf.blogspot.com/2008/09/obama-lies-about-his-mother-turning-to.html

It would also appear that The Obamessiah is proud of his mother for being on food stamps, but ashamed of her for only being on them while she was working on her PhD

[whottt]

Paragraph breaks for every sentence and ellipses, along with insults towards those who have the gall to disagree with you.



He's good at getting the style but totally horrible on content. His content makes no sense...mine does.

My logic is nearly always right. Regardless of how alien it may be to mindless programmed thinkers...of which there are many.

The paragraph breaks are because I tend to have long posts and want to ensure that every bit of my knowledge enters into your dome.


While I'm not saying everyone reads the all of my posts...I get a better result than just a big block of text would.


Ellipsisisisisisisi typos and only proofreading my posts for errors in content and readability(not typos or minor grammatical and spelling errors) are to make my trolls harder to notice.


Since no one on this forum has ever yet busted a whottt troll I didn't want busted, including timvp and kori(ok they may have gotten me once about 3 years ago)...my methodology is sound.

[RandomGuy]

Paragraph breaks for every sentence and ellipses, along with insults towards those who have the gall to disagree with you.

So I'm not the only one who got the nuances. :lol

[RandomGuy]

It's scary how good you are at this :lol


:worthy: Extra Stout

[whottt]

Here's how I would approach the Hussein subject, in fact I did:




http://spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=88229&highlight=John+Wayne+Hussein&page=3




I'm not voting for anyone named Hussein...


And before you pull the race card....I'm not voting for anyone named Adolph either...and I'm German. So :fu

I'm not voting for anyone named Usama.
I'm not voting for anyone named Satan.
I'm not voting for anyone named Vladamir.
I'm not voting for anyone named Mao.

Or Leonid.
Or Fidel.
Or Hugo.
Or Khomeni.


The way I look at it...if they are too stupid to change their name? They are too stupid to be President.





And just to prove I'm not racist...I'm German and even though I wouldn't vote for someone named Adolph, I would vote for an Austrian named Arnie

[RandomGuy]

Please...don't flatter yourself...it's not that hard to get, it's at least as easy as understanding what a Capital Gains Tax is.




I actually had to read it a couple of times to make sure he wasn't CnPing one of my old posts...that said, I've always said Obama was stupid to not change his middle name. It's going to be a negative for him.

:blah:blah:blah

[101A]

He's good at getting the style but totally horrible on content. His content makes no sense...mine does.

My logic is nearly always right. Regardless of how alien it may be to mindless programmed thinkers...of which there are many.

The paragraph breaks are because I tend to have long posts and want to ensure that every bit of my knowledge enters into your dome.


While I'm not saying everyone reads the all of my posts...I get a better result than just a big block of text would.


Ellipsisisisisisisi typos and only proofreading my posts for errors in content and readability(not typos or minor grammatical and spelling errors) are to make my trolls harder to notice.


Since no one on this forum has ever yet busted a whottt troll I didn't want busted, including timvp and kori(ok they may have gotten me once about 3 years ago)...my methodology is sound.


Outstanding.

ROFL.

[RandomGuy]

Originally Posted by ChumpDumper

I have never seen whottt this desperate.
That's because you haven't gone with him to a "gentleman's club".



That's because you haven't gone with him to a "gentleman's club".

This, however, is one of my more clever one-liners.

Like me or not, you gotta admit it was good. :p:

[Shastafarian]

And before you pull the race card....I'm not voting for anyone named Adolph either...and I'm German. So :fu

Last time I checked "German" isn't a race.

[JoeChalupa]

I've never voted for anyone based on their name.

[Findog]

Hussein is a pretty common Arabic name, like Smith or Jones. His dad, whom he met once, was Muslim, and he got his dad's name.

[whottt]

Hussein is a pretty common Arabic name, like Smith or Jones.

No shit?






His dad, whom he met once, was Muslim

Wow...so you mean Obama was a Muslim? I thought that was bullshit.




and he got his dad's name.

No shit?

[Findog]

^ You know how to read...barely, but you know how to read. You can drop the disengenuous stuff.

[ChumpDumper]

Disingenuous stuff is all he has.

All his hopes here hinge on a lawyer who claims Bush stole both the 2000 and 2004 elections and planned the 9/11 attacks.

[JohnnyMarzetti]

McLame's campaign is about to die.

[MannyIsGod]

My favorite ES threads are the ones where he goes in and posts his usual one line of sarcasm and people don't pick it up and reply to it as though he wasn't being sarcastic. There was one in here yesterday where he totally owned half the thread. It was greatness.

[Shastafarian]

My favorite ES threads are the ones where he goes in and posts his usual one line of sarcasm and people don't pick it up and reply to it as though he wasn't being sarcastic. There was one in here yesterday where he totally owned half the thread. It was greatness.

The french revolution post?

[JohnnyMarzetti]

ES is BS

[whottt]

Bzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz! How's my little hive doing? Still buzzing?


LMAO not only is Obama refusing to show his birth certificatre...he's hired a fucking lawyer from CAIR. This is hilarious.


http://yidwithlid.blogspot.com/2008/10/obama-is-using-terrorists-lawyer-to.html


Thursday, October 2, 2008
OBAMA is USING TERRORIST'S LAWYER to Defend LAWSUIT

Here come another of those "Guilt by Associations" that Senator Barack Obama will try to weasel himself out of. As you may know, Philip Berg is suing Senator Obama in Civil Court. Berg wants Obama to Produce his real birth certificate to prove that he meets the citizenship requirements to be President. Rather than just product the birth certificate (is he trying to hide something?) Obama's legal team filed a motion to dismiss. One of the Lawyers filing the motion was Joe Sandler ([email protected]) of the Washington law firm Sandler, Reiff, and Young (see the document below).

If Mr. Sandler's name sounds familiar it Should. He is the Legal Hit Man for the Council of American-Islamic Relations (CAIR). CAIR is an organization with terrorist ties, and has been as an un-indicted co-conspirator in the Holyland Foundation Hamas Funding trial.

Sandler's role for CAIR has been to stifle people from telling the truth about Islam. For example, last year he tried to get Jihad Expert Robert Spencer banned from speaking to the Young American Foundation, by using a threatening letter. Sandler followed up by threatening columnist Mike Adams for writing about the Spencer incident.

Look, everyone deserves legal representation that is not the Issue. The real issue is why is a candidate for President of the United States, a guy who wants to take over the role of Commander-in-Chief in the war on terror, using the Lawyer for CAIR a group with terrorist connections, to represent him in a law suit? Once again the Junior Senator from Illinois leave us with questions and no answers.

[whottt]

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whottt, FromWayDowntown


FWDT, your thoughts?


Why doesn't he just show the birth certificate? Why is he fighting it?

[RandomGuy]

The sad/funny thing is that whottt probably thinks he is "winning" somehow when this thread gets bumped. :lol

[whottt]

The sad/funny thing is that whottt probably thinks he is "winning" somehow when this thread gets bumped. :lol


The said thing is that you audacity to talk shit when you don't know what a Capital Gains Tax is.

[scott]

My logic is nearly always right.

[RandomGuy]

The said thing is that you audacity to talk shit when you don't know what a Capital Gains Tax is.

:blah:blah:blah

[RandomGuy]

The said thing is that you audacity to talk shit


All your base are belong to us. Biyatch.


http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/5/52/AllYourBaseAnimated.gif

[RandomGuy]

This thread gets better and better. :lmao

[whottt]

All your base are belong to us. Biyatch.


http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/5/52/AllYourBaseAnimated.gif


Yawn...question my typing ability all you want, you still don't know what a Capital Gains Tax is...

And you don't know it in extremely pompous fashion.


You are undeservedly smug and condescending...

[RandomGuy]

Yawn...question my typing ability all you want, you still don't know what a Capital Gains Tax is...

And you don't know it in extremely pompous fashion.


You are undeservedly smug and condescending...

There there, no need to get butt hurt.

What is basis?

[MannyIsGod]

:lmao Whottt is in total meltdown mode in every thread he enters.

[whottt]

All I'm doing is wondering why in the hell he doesn't just show his birth certificate...you guys OTOH are defending him not doing so...


Because he showed it to Wikipedia, Fact Check and the Daily Kos :rolleyes



Corrupt.

[MannyIsGod]

Yeah, thats all your doing.

[RandomGuy]

All I'm doing is wondering why in the hell he doesn't just show his birth certificate...you guys OTOH are defending him not doing so...


Because he showed it to Wikipedia, Fact Check and the Daily Kos :rolleyes



Corrupt.

I'm not defending anything for anybody.

I am just making fun of you. There is a difference. ;)

You make is soooo easy. If you weren't so bitter and angry, I might feel sorry for you.

[whottt]

Yeah, thats all your doing.


That is all I'm doing.


I posted about it once about 3 weeks ago and then saw the Fact Check article and said ok it looks legit to me....


But then he refused to show it to the courts.

[whottt]

http://spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=104793



Ok after looking at FactCheck that looks like a birth certificate to me and not whatever this guy said it was...so he's probably just an asshat.

And yeah on the Indonesian thing, just because the Idonesians considered him no longer a US citizen doesn't mean the US had the same interpretation. I'll agree with that...this lawyer is twisting shit.



It's not so much that I'm suspicious...it's that Obama is acting suspiciously.


From everything I've read he's got a birth certrificate and it's been verified...


So why won't he just show it to the courts and get it over with?

That is my question.


It's a valid one.

[whottt]

The DNC is now getting involved.

http://wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=76933

ELECTION 2008
DNC steps in to silence lawsuit over Obama birth certificate
Democrat suing his own party says it's 'like they're in cahoots'

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Posted: October 04, 2008
12:00 am Eastern


By Drew Zahn
© 2008 WorldNetDaily



Philip J. Berg

The man suing Sen. Barack Obama and the Democratic National Committee for proof of Obama's American citizenship is outraged that his own party – rather than just providing the birth certificate he seeks – would step in to silence him by filing a motion to dismiss his lawsuit.

As WND reported, prominent Pennsylvania Democrat and attorney Philip J. Berg filed suit in U.S. District Court two months ago claiming Obama is not a natural-born U.S. citizen and therefore not eligible to be elected president. Berg has since challenged Obama publicly that if the candidate will simply produce authorized proof of citizenship, he'll drop the suit.

Berg told WND the longer the DNC tries to ignore his lawsuit or make it go away – instead of just providing the documents – the more convinced he is that his accusations are correct.

Despite assertions by the Washington Post, FactChecker.org and other organizations that Obama has produced a certified Hawaiian birth certificate, Berg told WND he remains "99.99 percent sure" that the certificate is a fake and he wants a court, not a website, to determine its validity.

Earlier last week, lawyers for Obama and the DNC filed a joint motion to dismiss Berg's lawsuit. The fact that the DNC joined in the dismissal request has Berg fuming, believing his party's leaders have ignored his pleas for proof in order to favor their chosen candidate over a rank-and-file constituent.

"I think it's outrageous," Berg said. "The Democratic National Committee should be ensuring the Democratic Party and the public that they have a qualified candidate up there. To file a joint motion is like they're in cahoots.

"Since then, I have asked by way of press release that Howard Dean resign, because (the DNC members) are not fulfilling their duties," Berg said.

"The DNC has a responsibility to all Democrats in this country to make sure that all of their candidates are properly vetted and properly qualified," Berg added. "I think it's really an outrage to the 18-plus million people who voted for Obama and the people who donated more than $425 million to him under false pretenses."

(Story continues below)




Berg is frustrated, not only with his own party's leadership for allegedly not investigating Obama's background, but also with the major news outlets for failing as well.

"I should also be suing the national media and their disgrace for not properly vetting, inspecting or checking on Barack Obama.

"Look what they're doing to Governor Palin: They're opening up her closet doors, they're going through everything personal, but no one has ever gone after Obama. It doesn't make sense," Berg said.

Obama's website counters Berg's claims with links to articles that affirm the validity of his citizenship and an image of a Hawaiian birth certificate for Barack Hussein Obama, born in Honolulu, Aug. 4, 1961. The webpage is part of the Obama campaign website's "Fight the Smears" section, an effort to prevent reports that Obama claims are false from disseminating as damaging rumors.

Berg acknowledges that as long as his lawsuit remains outstanding, the public will talk, and he told WND he wants Obama to quickly prove him wrong or the court to quickly prove him right.

"I've been on about 50 radio shows around the country," Berg said, "and on every one I've put out a challenge: Barack Obama, if I'm wrong, just come forth with certified copies of these documents and I'll close down the case."

Berg told WND, "I've had 19 million hits on my website. …Those people talk to other people, now we're up to 20, 30, 40 million people who are aware of this controversy, and it's going to drastically affect the entire election."

When asked what he would do if the DNC succeeded in getting his case dismissed, Berg said he would "immediately file an appeal to the Third Circuit Court of Appeals, and if we don't get a fair ruling there, immediately to the U.S. Supreme Court."

"We're dealing with the U.S. Constitution and it must be followed," Berg explained. "I want the Constitution enforced; that's my main reason for doing this.

"The real outrage is that there's nothing in our system that provides that a candidate must provide that his qualifications are true and correct before he or she runs, and that safeguard should be put into our system by law," Berg said.

[whottt]

Why not just show the freaking birth certificate?

[Shastafarian]

Why not just show the freaking birth certificate?

Why wouldn't Bush just answer the question about his cocaine use?

[ChumpDumper]

Despite assertions by the Washington Post, FactChecker.org and other organizations that Obama has produced a certified Hawaiian birth certificate
A separate WND investigation into Obama's birth certificate utilizing forgery experts also found the document to be authentic. The investigation also revealed methods used by some of the bloggers to determine the document was fake involved forgeries, in that a few bloggers added text and images to the certificate scan that weren't originally there.

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=73214

Too easy.

I never thought I'd see the day that whottt would be sucking 9/11 twoofer cock, but love makes you do crazy things.

[Shastafarian]

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=73214

Too easy.

I never thought I'd see the day that whottt would be sucking 9/11 twoofer cock, but love makes you do crazy things.

You realize he's gonna come back with some shit about Obama just showing the certificate right? He's not gonna let another one of his brain farts die.

[whottt]

So when the court wants me to show proof of insurance can I just go show it to a website instead?

Fucking asshats.

[Shastafarian]

So when the court wants me to show proof of insurance can I just go show it to a website instead?

Fucking asshats.

The court doesn't want him to show it. Only that "asshat" politician trying to make a name for himself.

[whottt]

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=73214

Too easy.

I never thought I'd see the day that whottt would be sucking 9/11 twoofer cock, but love makes you do crazy things.




I posted it from WND because I wanted to make sure I posted from a source you approved of. Or are they only trustworthy when it suits you?

[ChumpDumper]

So when the court wants me to show proof of insurance can I just go show it to a website instead?

Fucking asshats.The court hasn't even asked for anything yet.

[whottt]

It's odd that not a single lib agrees he should just show it to the courts. It's quite telling.

[whottt]

The court hasn't even asked for anything yet.



Well of course...is there any doubt whose side they're on?

[PixelPusher]

My favorite ES threads are the ones where he goes in and posts his usual one line of sarcasm and people don't pick it up and reply to it as though he wasn't being sarcastic. There was one in here yesterday where he totally owned half the thread. It was greatness.

This still remains his hall of fame performance:

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=102709&highlight=dozen

My head was spinning like a top.

[ChumpDumper]

I posted it from WND because I wanted to make sure I posted from a source you approved of. Or are they only trustworthy when it suits you?WND cracks me up, but even they say it's not a forgery.

Do you think it's a forgery?

Yes or no.

[Shastafarian]

It's odd that not a single lib agrees he should just show it to the courts. It's quite telling.

Okay Kevin. He should show it to the courts...when they ask him to.

[Shastafarian]

Obama probably doesn't want to legitimize this wingnut's claims by handing over his birth certificate. It's much bigger news to bring forth your birth certificate than it is if some asshat asks for it with no grounds to say it's fake. It would bring it into national spotlight and even if he produces it, it would put doubt into many people's minds. There. Happy Kevin?

[whottt]

No...I think he was born in Hawaii and his birth certificate is same one we all have.

I think this guy is fucking with Obama because he has an axe to grind over Hillary...

I think he's thrown a lot of shit up against the wall hoping some of it sticks, swamps or at least puts doubts in the minds of voters.


I think asking for that long form is a way of turning this into a clusterfuck that could drag on untill election day.



What I don't understand is why Obama doesn't just go up there and show what he's got, which looks(on the net) and sounds like it's the same thing the court is always willing to accept....


Not only will it end this, but it will make Berg look stupid and it will ease the doubts of the American Public hearing it verified by a court.


IMO, it's a mistake for him to be putting it off if he's got that certificate...


The fact that he is putting it off is making me suspicious.

[whottt]

WND cracks me up, but even they say it's not a forgery.

Do you think it's a forgery?

Yes or no.

Just for clarification...he's not just claiming it's a forgery, he's claiming it's not an actual birth certificate as well. He's claiming it is a certificate of live birth which doesn't state the hospital of birth and can be legally altered at a later date by the parents.

[ChumpDumper]

No...I think he was born in Hawaii and his birth certificate is same one we all have.Well ok.

I'm glad we have resolved this nonissue.

[Shastafarian]

The fact that he is putting it off is making me suspicious.

I'm sure the Obama campaign couldn't give a rats ass Kevin.

[ChumpDumper]

Just for clarification...he's not just claiming it's a forgery, he's claiming it's not an actual birth certificate as well. He's claiming it is a certificate of live birth which doesn't state the hospital of birth and can be legally altered at a later date by the parents.Just for clarification, he also claimed Bush planned and carried out 9/11.

[Yonivore]

I'm sure the Obama campaign couldn't give a rats ass Kevin.
That would probably depend on who and how many others get similarly suspicious.

[Shastafarian]

That would probably depend on who and how many others get similarly suspicious.

See my post above explaining why I think he's trying to dismiss it.

[PixelPusher]

Funny how nobody ever mentions this:

http://cdn.factcheck.org/imagefiles/Ask%20FactCheck%20Images/Birth%20Certificate/announcementclose-up.jpg (http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html)

How the name of themite did he pull that off?

[whottt]

LMAO the charges are funny...

It's(the case) basically like this:


1. The birth certificate is a forgery.
2. Even if it isn't, it's not a legitimate birth certificate.
3. Even if it is, he gave up his citizenship when his mom remarried and he went to Indonesia.
4. Oh yeah...he was born in Kenya.
5. Even if he wasn't, he still gave up his citizenship on the Indonesian thing and didn't get it back.


It's funny. :lol



But it's not funny that Obama won't show his birth certificate...that's not funny at all.

[whottt]

Just for clarification, he also claimed Bush planned and carried out 9/11.


Just for clarification...he was hired by 9/11 families on that one. This is his own case.

[whottt]

Funny how nobody ever mentions this:

http://cdn.factcheck.org/imagefiles/Ask%20FactCheck%20Images/Birth%20Certificate/announcementclose-up.jpg (http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html)

How the name of themite did he pull that off?



That's not a birth certificate.

Do you realize how stupid you are for accepting that as proof?

I mean have you actually seen a copy of that newspaper?

[ChumpDumper]

Just for clarification...he was hired by 9/11 families on that one. This is his own case.Just for clarification, he was hired by Willie Rodriguez and has gone on speaking tours accusing Bush of planning and executing 9/11.

[PixelPusher]

That's not a birth certificate.

Do you realize how stupid you are for accepting that as proof?

I mean have you actually seen a copy of that newspaper?

no shit, it's a birth announcement from a 1961 Honolulu newspaper. How'd it get there? Did his parent's plant it there? Did they know he would run for President one day?




Time machine?

[ChumpDumper]

That would probably depend on who and how many others get similarly suspicious.So far that's nobody who wasn't going to vote for McCain anyway.

[ElNono]

But it's not funny that Obama won't show his birth certificate...that's not funny at all.

If a court of law ordered him to show it, he would. Or you're going to tell a lawyer how the law works?

[whottt]

Have you seen an actual copy of that newspaper? If not then shaddup.

You want me to edit it to say you were born on that date?

There's this shit called photoshop...and paint, you'd truly be amazed at what they can do.

[PixelPusher]

Do you realize how stupid you are for accepting that as proof?


Irony alert:



The announcement was posted by a pro-Hillary Clinton blogger who grudgingly concluded that Obama "likely" was born Aug. 4, 1961 in Honolulu.

[Shastafarian]

Have you seen an actual copy of that newspaper? If not then shaddup.

You want me to edit it to say you were born on that date?

There's this shit called photoshop...and paint, you'd truly be amazed at what they can do.

Apparently Kevin is one of those guys who needs to have someone shit on his face to prove people shit.

[whottt]

DailyKos verified his birth certificate was legit


Just the fact that he took it to the Daily Kos first is reason to be suspicious.

[whottt]

Irony alert:

That still doesn't make it proof. Obama's got plants.

[whottt]

Obama needs to show his fucking birth certificate to the courts. Period.

[ElNono]

I'm smarter than a lawyer, I know better than Obama when it comes to case law

[Shastafarian]

Obama needs to show his fucking birth certificate to the courts. Period.

When they ask him to I'm sure he will. What are you gonna do about it? Have some more hissy fits?

[ElNono]

Obama needs to show his fucking birth certificate to the courts. Period.

Why? Are you going to cry really loud if he doesn't? :lol

[whottt]

Here Pixel Pusher, just for you:


An pro-Obama supporter said that Honolulu birth announcement was bullshit

Consider your source de-confirmed. After all...an Obama supporter said it wasn't legit.

[Shastafarian]

Here Pixel Pusher, just for you:



Consider your source de-confirmed. After all...an Obama supporter said it wasn't legit.

And where did you find such a revelation? In you large, de-virginized asshole?

[PixelPusher]

Here Pixel Pusher, just for you:



Consider your source de-confirmed. After all...an Obama supporter said it wasn't legit.

The "source" was a Hillary PUMA blogger...that should be iron clad proof as far as YOU are concerned.

Hence the irony.

[whottt]

Um...Shasta and ElNono...please try not to post in succession...3 ignored posts in a row by ya'll are almost as much trouble to scroll past as one regular post.

That's annoying, and I don't like it.

[Shastafarian]

Um...Shasta and ElNono...please try not to post in succession...3 ignored posts in a row by ya'll are almost as much trouble to scroll past as one regular post. I love to post who is on my ignore list because I like jacking off to my own picture.

I know Kevin...I know.

[ElNono]

Um...Shasta and ElNono...please try not to post in succession...3 ignored posts in a row by ya'll are almost as much trouble to scroll past as one regular post.

That's annoying, and I don't like it.

Good... then I'll post 5 times in succession...
Hey, you chose to put me on ignore... now suck it like the bitch you are...

[Shastafarian]

Good... then I'll post 5 times in succession...
Hey, you chose to put me on ignore... now suck it like the bitch you are...

Only 5 times?

[Shastafarian]

I wonder what the quotient is of whottt posts about who is on his ignore list/total number of posts

[LaMarcus Bryant]

Whottt you are showing your true colors this election season. For some deep dark depraved reason you obviously have bet every dollar you owned on McCain winning this election. Sucks, you shouldn't have done that.

[whottt]

Godammit Shasta and ElNono...what part of flush turds flush don't ya'll get?

[ChumpDumper]

Maybe they are ignoring you too.

[whottt]

Just out of curiosity LaMarcus...what dictates which name you use? Mood? Day of the week?

[Shastafarian]

Maybe they are ignoring you too.

Nah. There's not much good comedy on right now. He's the only thing making me laugh at the moment.

[whottt]

Maybe they are ignoring you too.

So? I ignored them first.

[ElNono]

I think the saddest part is that he's getting owned so often these days, you have to wonder if he has any self esteem at all.

But hey, he keeps coming back for more...

[Shastafarian]

Godammit Shasta and ElNono...what part of flush turds flush don't ya'll get?

One more for the "declaring who is on his ignore list" count. It's borderline but I'll count it. I'd bet it's close to a .250 quotient.

[ChumpDumper]

So? I ignored them first.But none of them is being a bitch about it like you.

If you are ignoring someone, ignore him.

[Shastafarian]

So? I ignored them first.

:lol

See what I mean CD?

[ElNono]

Godammit Shasta and ElNono...what part of flush turds flush don't ya'll get?

Not your forum, STFU bitch!

[whottt]

But none of them are being a bitch about it like you.


The bitch is in the eye of the beholder...

[ElNono]

I'm a pussy that puts people on ignore then I can't take it

We know...

[Shastafarian]

We know...

He's not a pussy.

He's a HUGE pussy.

[ElNono]

Anyways, back on topic, how is it that Obama, being a lawyer, doesn't know what he's doing in a lawsuit?

[Shastafarian]

Anyways, back on topic, how is it that Obama, being a lawyer, doesn't know what he's doing in a lawsuit?

Because Kevin says he doesn't. And until Obama comes to Kevin's door and glues his birth certificate to his face, he's not gonna believe that...wait he already admitted he thought the birth certificate is real. This thread is dumb.

[TomBrady]

We know...

[RandomGuy]

Just the fact that he took it to the Daily Kos first is reason to be suspicious.


... but when something is on World Net Daily, THAT is the epitome of solid journalism. :lmao

[RandomGuy]

whottt's threads are why I get out of bed some days.

I think to myself: "Man, my allergies are kicking my ass, I should stay in bed and sleep, but then again I am sure whottt said something, if not a lot of things, shockingly stupid on spurstalk. Man-up, get some coffee, and log in, so you don't miss out on the funny."

[MannyIsGod]

I was thinking about how Whottt in his OP gives a valid reason why Obama would not want to show his BC to the court unless prompted by the court:




I know why Fox and the McCain camp aren't making noise about it...because if he actually does have a birth certificate they are going to come off as complete assholes. And I could easily see Obama wanting that if he does indeed have a legit birth certificate...I mean after all, it's not in the media at all and it's basically a buried story on the internet, so why bother?

So he's given a valid reason right then and there yet he's still looking for a valid reason?

:troll

[timvp]

whottt's threads are why I get out of bed some days.

I think to myself: "Man, my allergies are kicking my ass, I should stay in bed and sleep, but then again I am sure whottt said something, if not a lot of things, shockingly stupid on spurstalk. Man-up, get some coffee, and log in, so you don't miss out on the funny."

:lol

[xrayzebra]

whottt's threads are why I get out of bed some days.

I think to myself: "Man, my allergies are kicking my ass, I should stay in bed and sleep, but then again I am sure whottt said something, if not a lot of things, shockingly stupid on spurstalk. Man-up, get some coffee, and log in, so you don't miss out on the funny."


You actually get out of bed. :lol:lol

[whottt]

I was thinking about how Whottt in his OP gives a valid reason why Obama would not want to show his BC to the court unless prompted by the court:



So he's given a valid reason right then and there yet he's still looking for a valid reason?

:troll


I can give a valid reason for anything...that doesn't mean it's what Obama's doing.


And I made plenty of valid reasons for why he should just show the damn thing ASAP as well.

[ElNono]

I can give a valid reason for anything...that doesn't mean it's what Obama's doing.

And I made plenty of valid reasons for why he should just show the damn thing ASAP as well.

http://nefariouslabs.r30.net/Dead%20Horse.jpg

[ChumpDumper]

I can give a valid reason for anything...that doesn't mean it's what Obama's doing.


And I made plenty of valid reasons for why he should just show the damn thing ASAP as well.Like what?

Whose mind is it going to change?

Why is this even being questioned?

[whottt]

Like what?

Whose mind is it going to change?

Why is this even being questioned?

Why do you ask douchebag questions?

[ChumpDumper]

Why do you ask douchebag questions?They are great questions. You just want to avoid answering them.

[whottt]

They are great questions. You just want to avoid answering them.

Why ask questions that have already been answered? Like a douchebag?

[ChumpDumper]

They haven't really been answered satisfactorily. I'll answer them for you since you are afraid.

Obama is ahead and continues to gain in the polls, no matter how much you whine about them. So there is no reason to dignify your 9/11 twoofer hero's demands.

Nobody is sitting around saying "I'll vote for Obama if he produces another birth certificate and a pledge of loyalty."

It's a 9/11 twoofer that brought this to court that is for some reason bitter about Hillary's loss. I can't state just how low you have sunk to be sucking 9/11 twoofer cock.

Now I could ask why you started this thread, but we all know that already.

[whottt]

They haven't really been answered satisfactorily.

Pot meet kettle.



I'll answer them for you since you are afraid.

You usually do.




Obama is ahead and continues to gain in the polls, no matter how much you whine about them. So there is no reason to dignify your 9/11 twoofer hero's demands.

The lawsuit was instituted when McCain was up in the polls, and that was when I first posted about it.




Nobody is sitting around saying "I'll vote for Obama if he produces another birth certificate and a pledge of loyalty."

Yeah it can hurt him...it can hurt the entire party.




It's a 9/11 twoofer that brought this to court that is for some reason bitter about Hillary's loss. I can't state just how low you have sunk to be sucking 9/11 twoofer cock.

What's that? I couldn't understand what you said...perhaps you need to remove Obama's cock and start asking why he doesn't just provide the info...instead of fighting it, as he's doing.




Now I could ask why you started this thread, but we all know that already.

Why did I start this thread?

[ChumpDumper]

Pot meet kettle.Which ones?




You usually do.
You're ususally afraid.




The lawsuit was instituted when McCain was up in the polls, and that was when I first posted about it.He had no reason to justify it back then either. The fact that he pulled ahead while you and the 9/11 twoofer whose cock you are sucking whined about this case proves it.





Yeah it can hurt him...it can hurt the entire party.Prove it. All the available evidence says it hasn't hurt him or the party at all.





What's that? I couldn't understand what you said...perhaps you need to remove Obama's cock and start asking why he doesn't just provide the info...instead of fighting it, as he's doing. Now you're angry you didn't think of the cock sucking line first. Again, there's no reason to validate this 9/11 twoofer or you just because you are sucking his cock.





Why did I start this thread?Because you are in love with Sarah Palin, and now you have to adopt all the talking points in support of her vice-presidential campaign. You'll suck 9/11 twoofer cock for her -- that's love.

[whottt]

Which ones?




You're ususally afraid.

So you usually project....which is always ironic.







Because you are in love with Sarah Palin, and now you have to adopt all the talking points in support of her vice-presidential campaign.



You'll suck 9/11 twoofer cock for her -- that's love.

And because you're in love with Barrack Obama you don't care if he's an American Citizen or not and by your oppisition to my fair minded question, it would seem you actually support him and would like to protect him even if he is guity of shitting on our constitution.....you write the book on cocksucking, stop being so humble.

[ChumpDumper]

So you usually project....which is always ironic.:lol that's two stolen ideas in one day. You've gotten sloppy, lazy and pathetic since you fell in love.
And because you're in love with Barrack Obama you don't care if he's an American Citizen or not and by your oppisition to my fair minded question, it would seem you actually support him and would like to protect him even if he is guity of shitting on our constitution.....He has proven it to my satisfaction -- and you admit his birth certificate is not a forgery as well, so again I ask you why you insist on sucking 9/11 twoofer cock? Do you think Sarah might notice? Do you just like the taste?

[ChumpDumper]

The best thing about this is that I don't even like Obama that much. I could live with a McCain presidency easily. It's just so incredibly easy to take the side of regular common sense when idiots like you align themselves with the likes of 9/11 twoofers.

And suck their cocks.

[boutons_]

The Question Just Won't Make A Difference

"Democrat Barack Obama leads Republican presidential nominee John McCain in battleground states of Ohio, Pennsylvania and Minnesota, according to new polls. "

http://news.yahoo.com/s/bloomberg/20081006/pl_bloomberg/am6wsrkwniy4

[whottt]

Whole bunch of shit going on with this case now...

Another man has filed to join Berg's case.
The DNC and Obama are filing for an extensions.
Some other shit too...I'll post some links later.


Oh yeah..some anti-Obama writer has been detaiend in Kenya. Could have something to do with this case, might have something to do with a political leader Obama allegedly supported over there.

[MannyIsGod]

Whole bunch of shit going on with this case now...

Another man has filed to join Berg's case.
The DNC and Obama are filing for an extensions.
Some other shit too...I'll post some links later.


Oh yeah..some anti-Obama writer has been detaiend in Kenya. Could have something to do with this case, might have something to do with a political leader Obama allegedly supported over there.

My god Chump is entirely right. You're becoming a fucking truther.

[LaMarcus Bryant]

Whottt is still entranced by Palin's cute lil wink to the camera. He's posting outright jibberish lately. I will be glad when this election is over, for whottt's posting's sake.

[whottt]

Everything I posted was a fact.

Fact: Some guy is requesting to join the lawsuit.
Fact: Obama and the DNC did file for an extension today.
Fact: A dude that wrote an anti-Obama book is being held in Kenya.


I didn't post a single untrue statement...and I didn't make the lawsuit up either.


I said if Obama puts it off it's only going to become more of an issue, and it is becoming more of an issue.

[ChumpDumper]

Everything I posted was a fact.

Fact: Some guy is requesting to join the lawsuit.
Fact: Obama and the DNC did file for an extension today.
Fact: A dude that wrote an anti-Obama book is being held in Kenya.


I didn't post a single untrue statement...and I didn't make the lawsuit up either.


I said if Obama puts it off it's only going to become more of an issue, and it is becoming more of an issue.Actually Berg requested to add some defendants to the lawsuit; there are no new plaintiffs.

The DNC filed a motion for the court to rule on their previous motion to dismiss the entire case before anything else happens.

And for some reason you can't name the author of the book, and I don't blame you one bit. It's Jermoe Corsi, who is being detained for, probably among other things, not having a work permit to try to sell his book and pull off a stunt giving a check to Obama's half-brother.

And I won't even discuss the merits of Corsi's Obama book -- I'll just let everyone take in this little tidbit to introduce another cock whottt has decided to suck because he thinks Sarah Palin was winking at him.

yCfI3VmL88

Jerome Corsi, 9/11 Truth Nutjob (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-yCfI3VmL88)

[whottt]

Actually Berg requested to add some defendants to the lawsuit; there are no new plaintiffs.

What's a motion to intervene?



And for some reason you can't name the author of the book, and I don't blame you one bit. It's Jermoe Corsi, who is being detained for, probably among other things, not having a work permit to try to sell his book and pull off a stunt giving a check to Obama's half-brother.

And I won't even discuss the merits of Corsi's Obama book -- I'll just let everyone take in this little tidbit to introduce another cock whottt has decided to suck because he thinks Sarah Palin was winking at him.

yCfI3VmL88

Jerome Corsi, 9/11 Truth Nutjob (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-yCfI3VmL88)



My bad...I thought he was a World Net Daily journalist...


Cocksucker.

[whottt]

How the fuck can this dude be both a NeoCon and a 9/11 Truther?

Says he is a neocon on Wiki.

[whottt]

And furthermore...where in the fuck does CBF get off on calling me insane when these two guys are both 9/11 truthers.

Is that Victorian hypochrisy? Or do I not know what a 9/11 truther is?( a distict possiblity since I've only clicked on about 2 of those 9/11 threads).

[ChumpDumper]

What's a motion to intervene?Thanks, I was just going by Berg's site. I should have known he wouldn't have complete information for his own case.

Apparently someone named T.B. Bradley wants to join the case.

Anonymously.

I don't know exactly how one goes about that after filing a brief with her name on it, but the more the merrier. Maybe she's a twoofer too.


My bad...I thought he was a World Net Daily journalist...That would be funny had you not used them as a source as well.



Cocksucker.Still mad I got to that first, eh?

[ChumpDumper]

How the fuck can this dude be both a NeoCon and a 9/11 Truther?

Says he is a neocon on Wiki.His own words in that interview says he's a twoofer.

[ChumpDumper]

Whatever he is, he was deported from Kenya. :lol

[whottt]

Thanks, I was just going by Berg's site. I should have known he wouldn't have complete information for his own case.

Apparently someone named T.B. Bradley wants to join the case.

Anonymously.

There's another guy too. A forensics expert of some sort.






That would be funny had you not used them as a source as well.

It was like hitting a bullseye with an arrow and then splitting that arrow with another arrow. It was exactly like that. Specially since you were the one who cited them as a credible source. Me? I didn't know shit about them prior to you posting their "verification" as proof.





Still mad I got to that first, eh?

Well since all I'm asking is why in the fuck Obama won't just show the birth certificate...I find that comment offensive.

The only cocksucking I see going on in this thread if the guys getting indignant, derisive, and overly defensive about a simple question I asked.

[whottt]

His own words in that interview says he's a twoofer.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unfit_for_Command

[whottt]

There's another guy too. A forensics expert of some sort. .

Plus there are several groups getting petitions together to demand he show it.


Funny thing is...the Republicans aren't touching this with a 10 foot poll and Berg is a Democrat, so all it's going to do is make Bush and Republicans look better. So if Obama's waiting on the Republicans to seize on it...it's not working. Even Hannity won't bring it up....but people are noticing the story on the internet.

[ChumpDumper]

There's another guy too. A forensics expert of some sort.Same person, apparently. The second motion was for her to be called Jane Doe.






It was like hitting a bullseye with an arrow and then splitting that arrow with another arrow. It was exactly like that. Specially since you were the one who cited them as a credible source. Me? I didn't know shit about them prior to you posting their "verification" as proof.Oddly enough, Jermoe Corsi is a WND senior staff writer. :lmao




Well since all I'm asking is why in the fuck Obama won't just show the birth certificate...I find that comment offensive.I'm using strong language because I am trying to save you from yourself here. There is no way you should be associating yourself with these guys. William Ayers is definitely a better friend to have.


The only cocksucking I see going on in this thread if the guys getting indignant, derisive, and overly defensive about a simple question I asked.There has been no reason for Obama to produce anything other that what he already has. I've already said that -- you've already agreed since you believe the certificate he has produced is legitimate. The issue is resolved as far as you are concerned, yet you are determined to dig yourself deeper in the twoofer hole.

Why?

You're flailin' for Palin.

[ChumpDumper]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unfit_for_CommandAnd? You want the YouTube link again?

[ChumpDumper]

Plus there are several groups getting petitions together to demand he show it. So what?



Funny thing is...the Republicans aren't touching this with a 10 foot poll and Berg is a Democrat, so all it's going to do is make Bush and Republicans look better. So if Obama's waiting on the Republicans to seize on it...it's not working. Even Hannity won't bring it up....but people are noticing the story on the internet.You bring it up.

After you agreed his birth certificate is indeed valid.

What does that say about you?

I'm satisfied, you're satisfied.

What are we doing here?

[whottt]

There has been no reason for Obama to produce anything other that what he already has.

He's shown it to fucking websites. Get fucking real.





I've already said that -- you've already agreed since you believe the certificate he has produced is legitimate.

Yeah but what do I fucking know? I just saw it on a fucking website.




The issue is resolved as far as you are concerned, yet you are determined to dig yourself deeper in the twoofer hole.

Why?

I just can't figure out why he doesn't show it. It becomes more incriminating every day it continues.




You're flailin' for Palin.

Palin>any other candidate in this election...a pity a few people are too stupid to see that.

[whottt]

After you agreed his birth certificate is indeed valid.

Yeah but all I've seen it on is a fucking website.




What does that say about you?

It says that I think Obama is acting suspicious.




I'm satisfied, you're satisfied.

You're satisfied...cocksucker. I'm suspicious.



What are we doing here?

I'm asking why Obama doesn't just show it and posting articles to prove my point it's a mistake to not just show it.

[ChumpDumper]

He's shown it to fucking websites. Get fucking real.And you think it's legit. Get fucking real.



Yeah but what do I fucking know? I just saw it on a fucking website. You said you were smarter than everybody because you did a lot of hallucinogens.



I just can't figure out why he doesn't show it. It becomes more incriminating every day it continues. Why give this douchebag the satisfaction? It certainly doesn't seem to be hurting him at all.



Palin>any other candidate in this election...a pity a few people are too stupid to see that.What do you fucking know?

[whottt]

So what?

So what?

So what?


The Republicans are already inheriting 5-7 million Hillary Clinton Supporters.
They are going to get the 1-5 Racist Democrats that won't vote for a black man...this comes out to about 12 million voters.
This could get them conspiracy theorist vote...gotta be a couple million of those.

McCain landslide.


Incidentally, the Hillary supporters and Racist Democrats are already factored into my prediction. As are the Democrats that aren't going to be motivated to vote for Obama, which looking at how he lost in the 4 biggest blue states, could be a lot.

My landslide prediction is sound....and those only helps it.

[ChumpDumper]

Yeah but all I've seen it on is a fucking website.Then go to Chicago and ask to see it yourself.


It says that I think Obama is acting suspicious. But you think his birth certificate is legit.


You're satisfied...cocksucker. I'm suspicious. Are you flip-flopping now? If you want to take back what you said before, go ahead.



I'm asking why Obama doesn't just show it and posting articles to prove my point it's a mistake to not just show it.Not doing a very good job there, especially since you said the birth certificate he did show was legit.

If you now think it's a forgery, say so.

For now, I'm sticking with the conclusion of Corsi's own website that it is legit.

[ChumpDumper]

So what?

So what?


The Republicans are already inheriting 5-7 million Hillary Clinton Supporters.
They are going to get the 1-5 Racist Democrats that won't vote for a black man...this comes out to about 12 million voters.
This could get them conspiracy theorist vote...gotta be a couple million of those.

McCain landslide.


Incidentally, the Hillary supporters and Racist Democrats are already factored into my prediction. As are the Democrats that aren't going to be motivated to vote for Obama, which looking at how he lost in the 4 biggest blue states, could be a lot.

My landslide prediction is sound....and those only helps it.McCain's got my vote :tu

[ChumpDumper]

BTW, WND's report of Corsi's truncated trip to Kenya is hilarious.

"See you in hell!" (http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=77291)

[whottt]

Then go to Chicago and ask to see it yourself.

Fuck that...




But you think his birth certificate is legit.

I think a lot of things.
I also know a lot of things...that his birth certificate is legit isn't one of them.

I don't pretend to know things I don't know.

If I don't know all I can do is.......suspect.




Are you flip-flopping now? If you want to take back what you said before, go ahead.

Link?



Not doing a very good job there, especially since you said the birth certificate he did show was legit.

That was before he stalled showing it to the courts. And I'm not a birth certificate legitimacy expert.




If you now think it's a forgery, say so.

I don't know that it's a forgery...I also don't know that it isn't. What I do know is that he hasn't shown it to the courts and Wikipedia isn't my idea of reliable confirmation.

I realize you like World Net Daily, when it suits you, but unlike you I never considered them a valid conformation source either.



For now, I'm sticking with the conclusion of Corsi's own website that it is legit.

Cock
Sucker

[whottt]

BTW, the DNC and Obama did file a new motion for delay, extension, whatever.

[ChumpDumper]

Fuck that...Then you don't really care that much.



I think a lot of things.
I also know a lot of things...that his birth certificate is legit isn't one of them.

I don't pretend to know things I don't know.

If I don't know all I can do is.......suspect. But you think the certificate is legit.



Link?A link is unnecessary since you stipulated your belief that the birth certificate is legitimate.



That was before he stalled showing it to the courts. And I'm not a birth certificate legitimacy expert. So you want to flip-flop now, Just say so.



I don't know that it's a forgery...I also don't know that it isn't. What I do know is that he hasn't shown it to the courts and Wikipedia isn't my idea of reliable confirmation.

I realize you like World Net Daily, when it suits you, but unlike you I never considered them a valid conformation source either.I simply added their forgery experts' verification of the authenticity of Obama's birth certificate to the others. I thought it was noteworthy since they are hardly in Obama's corner and you know you love to bitch about bias since you fell in love with Palin.


Cock
SuckerAw, whottt's angry that he is changing his story now and has to admit it.

You're the one with two twoofer cocks in his mouth. There's probably room for more.

[ChumpDumper]

BTW, the DNC and Obama did file a new motion for delay, extension, whatever.It was a motion for the court to rule on their dismissal motion before anything else happens.

[whottt]

Then you don't really care that much.

I'll care a lot more if he doesn't ever show it.





But you think the certificate is legit.

But I don't know that it is. There's a difference there.



A link is unnecessary since you stipulated your belief that the birth certificate is legitimate.

Well, you asked.



So you want to flip-flop now, Just say so.

I definitely want him to show his birth certificate. I wonder why he doesn't.



I simply added their forgery experts' verification of the authenticity of Obama's birth certificate to the others. I thought it was noteworthy since they are hardly in Obama's corner and you know you love to bitch about bias since you fell in love with Palin.

Well those other sites are shit and so is this one.




Aw, whottt's angry that he is changing his story now and has to admit it.

My story hasn't changed, my story doesn't need to change. Obama needs to show his birth certificate and get it over with.




You're the one with two twoofer cocks in his mouth. There's probably room for more.

It's like you're Ann Thorn or Sgt. Neff or something.

[whottt]

It was a motion for the court to rule on their dismissal motion before anything else happens.


That's what they filed at first...they filed something else, Mr. Plaintiff.

[ChumpDumper]

I'm not the plaintiff, and it would be easier if you just linked it.

[ChumpDumper]

I'll care a lot more if he doesn't ever show it.But he already showed it.



But I don't know that it is. There's a difference there.You might never know! Whatever will you do then?



Well, you asked.No, you asked.




I definitely want him to show his birth certificate. I wonder why he doesn't. Already did.



Well those other sites are shit and so is this one. Well, how many Pulitzer Prizes have you won?

None?

How many forgery experts have you put on this case?

None?

You're shit and are not ever to be believed. Ever. All you have is a chubby for the vice-presidential candidate.



My story hasn't changed, my story doesn't need to change. Obama needs to show his birth certificate and get it over with.Because you said so.

Because you are better than everyone else.

Because you did all those drugs.

:tu

[whottt]

You might never know! Whatever will you do then?

Can you say Haliburton motherfucker? I can.



No, you asked.



Already did.


Well, how many Pulitzer Prizes have you won?

None?

How many forgery experts have you put on this case?

None?

I'm dont' feel like looking at the statements I made to get those responses...so I'll just say Fuck You!



You're shit and are not ever to be believed. Ever. All you have is a chubby for the vice-presidential candidate.

And you're a servant of Obama.



Because you said so.

Well yeah..that's why I said it.



Because you are better than everyone else.

Hmmm...well in a lot of ways, yeah.



Because you did all those drugs.

:tu

Hallucenogens....so did your earliest ancestors when they were founding civilzation and in the process of becoming modern thinking humans. Don't be a snob.

[RandomGuy]

My god Chump is entirely right. You're becoming a fucking truther.

Innuendo, demanding that negatives be proved, and the general "throw as much shit at the wall to see what sticks" bits.

He argues just like the truthers. Bad logic galore: Strawmen, begging the question, ad hominem, etc, etc.

When shown to be factually wrong, he will change the subject to the other shit that he threw at the wall, until he notices it has piled up at his feet already, then he moves on to yet another.

All the while, the longer he talks, the less anybody with any sense pays attention, and the worse his side, whatever that is, looks.

Ultimately he hurts whatever cause he supports, because he does it in such a distasteful, obviously flawed way.

[RandomGuy]

So what?

So what?


The Republicans are already inheriting 5-7 million Hillary Clinton Supporters.
They are going to get the 1-5 Racist Democrats that won't vote for a black man...this comes out to about 12 million voters.
This could get them conspiracy theorist vote...gotta be a couple million of those.

McCain landslide.


Incidentally, the Hillary supporters and Racist Democrats are already factored into my prediction. As are the Democrats that aren't going to be motivated to vote for Obama, which looking at how he lost in the 4 biggest blue states, could be a lot.

My landslide prediction is sound....and those only helps it.

:lmao

See, this is what I mean. I almost skipped logging in before work, but I would have missed the funny.

[MannyIsGod]

God damn Whottt, Chump owned you so badly in this thread. I mean fuck these last few posts are a blood bath. You're like the 08 version of Finley. At one point you were good, but now its just a pain in the ass to see you on the court.

[whottt]

You guys go ahead and prop each other all you want...I want to know why Obama doesn't just show it. He needs too. It'll be a horrible mistake for him to attempt to get this thrown out of court....it's just going to create more controversy and doubt around him.

[MannyIsGod]

You guys go ahead and prop each other all you want...I want to know why Obama doesn't just show it. He needs too. It'll be a horrible mistake for him to attempt to get this thrown out of court....it's just going to create more controversy and doubt around him.

He doesn't actually, and thats the point.

[whottt]

If he gets that case thrown out of court, it will hit the media, and it will hurt him, whether he's got the birth certificate or not...IMO. He doesn't need anymore questions about his past...he really doesn't. Doesn't matter how innocent or how guilty he actually is...this is for the Presidency, not about innocence or guilt.

[MannyIsGod]

K, well when it becomes a big deal you can come in here and post I told you so just like when all of your predictions come true on November 5th you can come in and post I told you so.

[whottt]

K, well when it becomes a big deal you can come in here and post I told you so just like when all of your predictions come true on November 5th you can come in and post I told you so.

I don't think all of my predictions will come true on Nov 5th...but some of them definitely will, and any one of them coming true spells bad news for Obama.

The one I am least certain about is a McCain landslide.

[MannyIsGod]

Thats right, start the back peddling right now.

[whottt]

Least certain = 98.9%

[MannyIsGod]

Thats right try to save face now.

[whottt]

Yeah it was a brilliant move by the Obama team to not just provide his birth certificate...


It's only a lawsuit being filed in multiple states now and the original case is now being appealed to the Supreme Court...

And it's starting to make the Network news.



Even if Obama produces it now...he's provided plenty of room for people to doubt even a legitimate BC doing it this late....if he produces it after his trip to Hawaii his detractors are going to pounce on that.



You guys sure did own me...


Because it's always a brilliant move to leave doubts in peoples mind...as you'll find out on Nov 4th.


PS: At the micro level...how many people have started threads on it recently in this forum?

[ChumpDumper]

PS: At the micro level...how many people have started threads on it recently in this forum?
That's because there are a lot of stupid people on this board. It's by design.

[ElNono]

PS: At the micro level...how many people have started threads on it recently in this forum?

You mean other than ducks and Wild Cobra? Zero...

[MannyIsGod]

:lmao

[ChumpDumper]

Yeah it was a brilliant move by the Obama team to not just provide his birth certificate...It's already out there. Have you gone to Chicago to demand to see it yet? It's really that important to you, isn't it?

[2centsworth]

Thats right try to save face now.

truth be told, I believe Whottt made that mccain landslide prediction before the economic meltdown. McCain was up before the AIG, Lehman & Merrill news.

[ChumpDumper]

truth be told, I believe Whottt made that mccain landslide prediction before the economic meltdown. McCain was up before the AIG, Lehman & Merrill news.He's still predicting a landslide, but he pre-excused the loss he sees coming with a charge of Massive Vote Fraud.

[MannyIsGod]

truth be told, I believe Whottt made that mccain landslide prediction before the economic meltdown. McCain was up before the AIG, Lehman & Merrill news.

I don't know when he first came up with it, but he made FURTHER outlandish predictions after the event without a doubt.

In anycase, a McCain landslide was NEVER going to happen.

[whottt]

truth be told, I believe Whottt made that mccain landslide prediction before the economic meltdown. McCain was up before the AIG, Lehman & Merrill news.


I stilll think it's going to be a McCain landslide, with no qualifiers. Let me be clear on this.


I wasn't basing my opinion on the way McCain was polling at that time.

[whottt]

Funny how these things work...I made this thread to point out it's a mistake for Obama to not just show his birth certificate...I said it was going to become a bigger and bigger issue unless he just gets over with...

I was called stupid, paranoid...all sorts of other shit, and now it's a case being brought against Obama in multiple states and is being appealed to the Supreme Court...and the same asshats are still telling me how wrong and clueless I am.


And they are questioning my landslide prediction as they are doing it....

I know for a fact Chump and Manny were participants in at least one discussion concerning the inaccuracy of the polls in a past historic election...I drew parallels to this one, and was rebuffed by the both of you..I fully encourage you to go look at the poll that was off in that election...what it did then, what it's doing now.


So far it's a near identical trend...debate or no.

[ChumpDumper]

I know for a fact I asked whottt for the number of fraudulent votes cast. He proceeded to lose his shit and put me on ignore and to fate has never produced any fraudulent votes.

[Spurminator]

and now it's a case being brought against Obama in multiple states and is being appealed to the Supreme Court

The Hawaii Supreme Court.

EDIT: NM, you meant Berg. Still, you say it as though a case being appealed to the SC gives it any credibility. Did you know I could sue for reparations because my alien race was exterminated by humans in Laredo in the late 1890's, and when I wqas rejected I could appeal to the Supreme Court?

[ChumpDumper]

I know for a fact Chump and Manny were participants in at least one discussion concerning the inaccuracy of the polls in a past historic election...I drew parallels to this one, and was rebuffed by the both of you..I fully encourage you to go look at the poll that was off in that election...what it did then, what it's doing now.


So far it's a near identical trend...debate or no.I know for a fact that whottt is talking about the Reagan/Carter election and he cited polls taken before but not after their rather pivotal debate that occurred just about a week before the election. Now, I am completely open to the idea of a game changer for McCain even this late, but whottt is just flat out lying when he says the circumstances are identical.

I don't know exactly why whottt has started blatantly lying with such consistency because he never had to in the past. I can only conclude that he feels his self-perceived e-reputation of being right is at stake (hint: he's often wrong, he just never talks about it), and that is more important than anything.

[ElNono]

Funny how these things work...I made this thread to point out it's a mistake for Obama to not just show his birth certificate...I said it was going to become a bigger and bigger issue unless he just gets over with...

I was called stupid, paranoid...all sorts of other shit, and now it's a case being brought against Obama in multiple states and is being appealed to the Supreme Court...and the same asshats are still telling me how wrong and clueless I am.


Berg just had his lawsuit tossed out of court. You're slow to catch up.
I'm sure he'll appeal all the way, but how is this an issue? I mean, if it's not for ducks and WC, I didn't even hear about it.



And they are questioning my landslide prediction as they are doing it....
I know for a fact Chump and Manny were participants in at least one discussion concerning the inaccuracy of the polls in a past historic election...I drew parallels to this one, and was rebuffed by the both of you..I fully encourage you to go look at the poll that was off in that election...what it did then, what it's doing now.
So far it's a near identical trend...debate or no.

Of course we're questioning your landslide prediction. I mean, we're questioning your sanity overall. The example you provided was refuted because it doesn't match the actual situation AT ALL.

BTW, did you take your meds today?

[RandomGuy]

I stilll think it's going to be a McCain landslide, with no qualifiers.

oooh there we go.

"no qualifiers" includes not claiming massive vote fraud when McCain loses.

This is the statement that goes in the siggy.

[FromWayDowntown]

The Hawaii Supreme Court.

EDIT: NM, you meant Berg. Still, you say it as though a case being appealed to the SC gives it any credibility. Did you know I could sue for reparations because my alien race was exterminated by humans in Laredo in the late 1890's, and when I lost I could appeal to the Supreme Court?

All it takes to appeal a case to the Supreme Court is losing in a lower court. It's not as if the Supreme Court decides every case appealed to it; in fact, only about 5% of all petitions presented to the Court are granted and reviewed.

[whottt]

The Hawaii Supreme Court.

EDIT: NM, you meant Berg. Still, you say it as though a case being appealed to the SC gives it any credibility. Did you know I could sue for reparations because my alien race was exterminated by humans in Laredo in the late 1890's, and when I wqas rejected I could appeal to the Supreme Court?


There's a case against him in Washington State...





Oh yeah there also cases against him over it in New York, Connecticut, California and Georgia.





PS: And Ohio.



Ya'll are so fucking informed...

[boutons_]

cases, OK. Repug HARASSMENT cases.

Decisions? Why not? What's the delay?

[Spurminator]

There's a case against him in Washington State...





Oh yeah there also cases against him over it in New York, Connecticut, California and Georgia.





PS: And Ohio.



Ya'll are so fucking informed...

A "case" or a suit?

I could file the suit I referenced above in any of those states. It doesn't mean I have a case.

I might eb a little better informed on it if it was actually that big a story.

[whottt]

oooh there we go.

"no qualifiers" includes not claiming massive vote fraud when McCain loses.

This is the statement that goes in the siggy.



I reserve the right to claim massive voter fraud if there is evidence it was commited...and there already is.

Point is...I don't expect I'll have to.

Whether I have to or not...I'll continue to bring it up, because I don't like massive voter fraud...unlike you, who are totally okay with it as long as it favors your candidate.


Much like you are okay with depictions and threats of violence towards Women and Presidential Candidates...much like all of you are, as long as it's not your candidate.

[ElNono]

There's a case against him in Washington State...

Oh yeah there also cases against him over it in New York, Connecticut, California and Georgia.

PS: And Ohio.

Ya'll are so fucking informed...

They can sue him in every state. What difference does it make?

[MannyIsGod]

Let me know when one of those suits rules that Obama has to show the certificate in court. In the meantime suits mean pretty much nothing. Just more shit for the courts to throw out.

[whottt]

A "case" or a suit?

I could file the suit I referenced above in any of those states. It doesn't mean I have a case.

I might eb a little better informed on it if it was actually that big a story.


What ever.. 8>1

[ChumpDumper]

There's a case against him in Washington State...King County judge tosses lawsuit over Obama citizenship. (http://www.tri-cityherald.com/kennewick_pasco_richland/story/364665.html)


Ya'll are so fucking informed...:lmao

[whottt]

Let me know when one of those suits rules that Obama has to show the certificate in court.

Eventually one will...Judges of both parties like to make the front page.





In the meantime suits mean pretty much nothing. Just more shit for the courts to throw out.


So are you saying the speculation is decreasing and becoming less of a factor?

Because that's what would have to be happening for me to be wrong here...

[ElNono]

I reserve the right to claim massive voter fraud if there is evidence it was commited...and there already is.


I reserve the right to call you out for your stupidity.
And show me the money... Where's the evidence of this massive voter fraud???



Point is...I don't expect I'll have to.

Whether I have to or not...I'll continue to bring it up, because I don't like massive voter fraud...unlike you, who are totally okay with it as long as it favors your candidate.


You should file a lawsuit and bring your evidence. I mean, it's easy to say you don't like it then sit in your ass and do nothing about it.


Much like you are okay with depictions and threats of violence towards Women and Presidential Candidates...much like all of you are, as long as it's not your candidate.

You mean, it's ok to have depictions and threats of violence towards Obama and Biden?