Chu: Finley a lean, mean shooting machine

[timvp]

Finley a lean, mean shooting machine
Bryan Chu

Spurs coach Gregg Popovich had a resounding message for his players at the end of last season.

Look into the mirror.

Michael Finley did just that.

“I didn't like what I was seeing,” Finley said.

Entering his 14th NBA season, Finley lost weight and improved his conditioning by reconfiguring his offseason regimen — perfect timing with the news of Manu Ginobili being out until December after having left ankle surgery.

Finley, 35, started working out just two days after the Spurs bowed out of the Western Conference finals. He went back home to Chicago and straight to Tim Grover, a sports enhancement specialist at Attack Athletics who has worked with the likes of Michael Jordan and Dwyane Wade. Along with pickup games, Finley went through muscle-activation training, massages and therapy to recharge his body. Grover noticed a dip in Finley's lateral movement, so they concentrated on the flexibility in his hip area to improve his mobility.

Physical fitness aside, Finley changed his diet completely. More salads, lean meat, fruits and vegetables. No fried food, desserts, sugary items and Tex-Mex, and limited red meat. Now, he eats 4-5 smaller meals per day.

Finley was 235 pounds at the end of last season and has now dropped to 220, the lightest he's been since his days in Dallas.

“I feel lighter, I feel better,” he said. “I just want to be prepared physically and mentally. Mentally, knowing that the opportunity of playing more minutes will be there, and I just want to be prepared at that task. Physically, I wanted to be in the best shape that I could be.”

The proof is in the pack, as in six-pack. Finley looks svelte and strong. Not bad for the 10th-oldest player on an NBA roster.

“Unbelievable,” said Grover of Finley's work ethic. “He is one of the strongest and most dedicated clients I've had.

“Right now his body compares to a 30-year-old. Barring any serious injury, he can easily give the team 30 minutes if needed.”

Though the younger perimeter players such as Ime Udoka and Roger Mason likely will see an increase in minutes with Ginobili out, it's also likely that Finley will fill a similar role to a year ago.

Last season, Finley started 61 of 82 games. He averaged 10.1 points, 3.1 rebounds and 1.4 assists in 26.9 minutes. He was especially effective from deep, sinking 37 percent of his 3-pointer attempts, making 132, the second most in his career.

With Robert Horry not returning and Brent Barry signing with Houston, Popovich called signing Finley “very important.”

“Losing Michael would've really been a depreciation in corporate knowledge if you will,” said Popovich, who hasn't tabbed a starting lineup outside of Tony Parker and Tim Duncan. “His leadership on top of that is paramount to our success. He's a really respected player in the locker room also.

“His role will be the same. We want him to shoot the basketball and knock it down.”

Finley signed a two-year deal worth $5 million, with the second year at his option.

Nowadays, Spurs and old seemingly are linked. Finley, a two-time All-Star and 16.7-point career scorer, is one of those on the ancient end, but that doesn't seem to bother him.

“I don't compare myself to others,” he said. “I know how long I've been in the league when I look into the locker room and I see young guys coming into the locker room at 22. That's a reality check in itself.

“(But) coming into this season, with Manu going down, I'm trying to be more consistent. I have an opportunity to play a little bit, and hopefully I can take advantage of it.”

http://www.mysanantonio.com/sports/spurs/Finley_a_lean_mean_shooting_machine.html

[Manufan909]

Can't wait to see the new and improved Fin. I'd follow his diet if I didn't like tex-mex and fried chicken and red meats so much.:lol

[lurker23]

Can't wait to see the new and improved Fin. I'd follow his diet if I didn't like tex-mex and fried chicken and red meats so much.:lol

I was thinking something similar, but I could probably suffer for a year if you offered me $2.5 mil.

[honestfool84]

this is extremely encouraging.

[honestfool84]

this is extremely encouraging.

about finley, i mean.

[Spork KIller]

:lol :lol

[timvp]

Grover noticed a dip in Finley's lateral movementThat's the understatement of the year. Finley last year had the lateral movement of a dragster. Defensively he was helpless if anyone tried to drive around him because he could move side to side at all.

He eventually adjusted and started to defend like a cornerback with limited speed ... he just backed way off and tried to keep everything in front of him. Too bad that doesn't work at all in the NBA, especially when playing for Pop.

While I was against the re-signing of Finley, I'm starting to have hope. Looking at his numbers last year, you can almost see the wall he hit in the stats. He just stopped rebounding about half way through the season and never recovered. Early in the season, he was actually rebounding at a good clip and playing with energy.

If Finley became a bit nimbler in the offseason and the lost weight can help him stay spry, perhaps he won't be useless. That said, I still hope Roger Mason, Jr. is the opening night starter at shooting guard.

[honestfool84]

:lol :lol

you wish they'd write stories like this about your precious, old shaq.

[Obstructed_View]

Surprising how 15 pounds can make a difference on your knees and ankles. Don't be suprised to see Fin doing a little more jumping than he has in recent years.

[DPG21920]

I was all for the Finley signing. I am glad he is at least putting in the work. That is all we can ask for.

[Obstructed_View]

That said, I still hope Roger Mason, Jr. is the opening night starter at shooting guard.

I don't mind Fin being there if Mason is playing well and Fin just beats him out for the job, though.

[DPG21920]

If we can get 12 pts from Fin and Mason each that would be huge

[Obstructed_View]

If we can get 12 pts from Fin and Mason each that would be huge

If that can happen with Manu coming back full strength it would be more than that.

[Brox6]

Hope he will be good as advertise :lol:downspin:

[DPG21920]

If that can happen with Manu coming back full strength it would be more than that.

I meant in Manu's absence. One of their numbers will take a hit when he comes back. Manu will probably play around 28 minutes a game, leaving about 26 minutes (for different line-ups) for Finley and or Mason. It would be hard for both of them to maintain double digit scoring.

[milkyway21]

“His role will be the same. We want him to shoot the basketball and knock it down."-Popovich

ewww!
don't hate me because Pop loves me-Finley :lol

while Manu recuperate, pls give Mason equal minutes Pop.

82 games=Finley & Oberto

He's ready.Who knows 2008-09 might be another Finley's (3rd?) 82-game season with the Spurs

[MaNu4Tres]

Can anyone find a picture of him from media day?

[Obstructed_View]

I meant in Manu's absence. One of their numbers will take a hit when he comes back. Manu will probably play around 28 minutes a game, leaving about 26 minutes (for different line-ups) for Finley and or Mason. It would be hard for both of them to maintain double digit scoring.

Ah. In that case, I agree. 85+ points from TTM plus Fin and Mason is probably too much to ask for. :)

[Ice009]

I wasn't too excited about bringing Michael back this season, but I have GOT to give him props for working his ass off in the off season. He has really made an effort to prepare himself to be able to contribute more this season. I hope this makes a huge difference to his game this year. Good stuff Michael.

[boutons_]

Kurt is the one who needed to drop 20 - 30 pounds.

He's way too jiggly, sorta like the last time I saw Malik waddle up and down the court.

[Slippy]

“Right now his body compares to a 30-year-old. Barring any serious injury, he can easily give the team 30 minutes if needed.”

Aside from a defensive improvement, maybe we'll see good'ol Finley tomahawk on a drive. We can only hope. Good news.

[Slippy]

double post

[SenorSpur]

If Finley's minutes stay about the same, I can live with that. I believe we're in trouble if Pop elects to or has to play Fin more than usual. Let's all hope that Roger Mason can ramp up fast.

[mountainballer]

wasn't Finley always called the super pro, but this season for the first time in his career he starts to work to get his body in perfect shape?
wait there is something wrong about this.
it's great when he does it, but I don't see why the whole forum starts to rave and praise his work ethic, when in fact he carried 10 or more extra pounds last season.
athletes in almost any other sport will only deliver at best, when they are in the best shape possible. put 10 extra pounds on Michael Phelps and he won't win a single gold medal.

so ok, Finley learned that his mobility dropped to the level of a Hyppo last season and he decided to work harder. so obviously there was much room for improvement.
the Spurs waited till the end of August till they re signed him. I can very well see that they waited that long to see if Finley works on his body and I can very well see them ask him to do so, or they won't be interested. no matter what they call things now.

[Obstructed_View]

wasn't Finley always called the super pro, but this season for the first time in his career he starts to work to get his body in perfect shape?
wait there is something wrong about this.
it's great when he does it, but I don't see why the whole forum starts to rave and praise his work ethic, when in fact he carried 10 or more extra pounds last season.
athletes in almost any other sport will only deliver at best, when they are in the best shape possible. put 10 extra pounds on Michael Phelps and he won't win a single gold medal.

so ok, Finley learned that his mobility dropped to the level of a Hyppo last season and he decided to work harder. so obviously there was much room for improvement.
the Spurs waited till the end of August till they re signed him. I can very well see that they waited that long to see if Finley works on his body and I can very well see them ask him to do so, or they won't be interested. no matter what they call things now.

He listened to what Pop said, worked his ass off and earned a spot on this team. Seems praise-worthy to me. If you ask Fin why he didn't do this years ago, he'll probably tell you that's an excellent question.

As you get older the same things that worked in the past don't work anymore. When you are 25 you can eat whatever you want but then around 30 your body starts storing it, gradually a little more all the time, so you have to adapt, and it can easily catch you by surprise. It's easy to convince yourself that it's not happening to you or to just not realize it's happening because it's so gradual. Like I mentioned earlier, with the extra weight sometimes comes extra pain, and that contributes to the beating your body takes playing an NBA schedule. Finley shoots for two hours before almost every game, so there's not much sense in questioning his work ethic.

There haven't been many harsher critics of Fin around here than me, but if he's contributing now then that's all that matters. The combination of improving his quickness and strength and reducing his pain might even mean he starts playing defense again. He used to be a really good defender.

[MoSpur]

I recently lost about 40lbs and can see a huge difference. My knees don't hurt as much and I have a lot more energy. I only play once in a while against regular guys and can see how much that weight lost has helped me. I can imagine what this can do for Fin.

[1Parker1]

With Barry and Horry gone, losing Finley would have been a huge blow. I don't think he deserves to be a starter at this point in his career, but as a bench player with limited minutes he's solid. Plus, he's a great player to have on the bench to call in crunchtime situations in the playoffs.

[Russ]

Lean and hungry in '08. Finley is lean and the Spurs are hungry.:flag:

[mountainballer]

He listened to what Pop said, worked his ass off and earned a spot on this team. Seems praise-worthy to me. If you ask Fin why he didn't do this years ago, he'll probably tell you that's an excellent question.

As you get older the same things that worked in the past don't work anymore. When you are 25 you can eat whatever you want but then around 30 your body starts storing it, gradually a little more all the time, so you have to adapt, and it can easily catch you by surprise. It's easy to convince yourself that it's not happening to you or to just not realize it's happening because it's so gradual. Like I mentioned earlier, with the extra weight sometimes comes extra pain, and that contributes to the beating your body takes playing an NBA schedule. Finley shoots for two hours before almost every game, so there's not much sense in questioning his work ethic.

There haven't been many harsher critics of Fin around here than me, but if he's contributing now then that's all that matters. The combination of improving his quickness and strength and reducing his pain might even mean he starts playing defense again. He used to be a really good defender.

ok. didn't exactly want to question the overall work ethic, maybe more if he worked smart, which is also a sign of professionalism.
(btw. having already crossed all the mentioned age lines, I know very well what the body does when getting older.).
I guess I talk for all ballers when I say that shooting for 2 hours is usually more fun than 2 hours of pure fitness training.
however, it's also about the nurture question. there I'm always surprised to hear at what a sub optimal level so many NBA players use to eat (I'm not just talking about Shaq), compared to many other athletes. if you are a pro athlete and want to get the best out of your body, you shouldn't start to at 25 or 30 to watch what you eat. this should be part of your live from day 1. yes, a 23 years old athlete usually doesn't suffer from it that much, but he won't be better either.

I wonder what diet Bruce uses and if it wasn't him to advice Finley how to get in best shape for a 35+.

[spurs_fan_in_exile]

[“Losing Michael would've really been a depreciation in corporate knowledge if you will.”

Drink!

This is some very encouraging news in an offseason that hasn't seen much to be encouraged about. Finley's reputation for being a true professional is showing through here.

[bigfan]

Hope all goes well for Finley because I think he is a very important part of our team now. I remember last season there were a few games that he seemed to have been the key to victory. He is a genuine good guy, gets along with everyone and has great basketball smarts. His only downsides are his defense needs to improve a bit and sometimes he just goes cold. Hell, everyone goes cold. I think for 2.5 mil he's a good deal and Im glad he's still around. One other thing. I think he's the type of guy that remembers how the rest of the team worked to get him that long sought after ring. Those memories make him work hard as a payback to the rest of the team.

[xellos88330]

Go Fin Go!!!

[Anti.Hero]

yeah yeah

[Flux451]

Excellent find!

Hypothetically speaking, when manu comes back. I can see Parker and Finely starting,and Mason and Manu backing up. If Salim works out he could have an Eddie House role, to come in when the back up isn't working or need more threes. I could careless if Hill gets a lot of pt. Let him get the leftover minutes. I recall Fin play the 3 against smaller teams too in the playoffs. Or was it the 4?

In the end...very impressive Fin!

[honestfool84]

i wonder who are the starters are going to be, with tim and tony the only guaranteed ones..

bruce benched?

[loveforthegame]

Can anyone find a picture of him from media day?

It's not from media day though Getty Images has 2 of Finley up on there site.

This is the pic attached to the article. I can't get over how slimmed down he looks. Props to him for putting this much work in at his age. Whether it pans out or not we'll have to wait and see.

http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l315/Jamz1976/Sports/371.jpg

[xtremesteven33]

Pre-Manu:
Parker
Finley
Bowen
Duncan
Oberto

Post-Manu

Parker
Ginobili
Bowen
Duncan
Oberto



If Mason and Finley shows promise of good chemistry with the team and are capable of holding the fort down for 5-10 minutes of rest for Manu and Parker i dont see why Manu shouldnt start when he comes back.

If manu comes back 110% than he shouldnt come off the bench. no need to get behind in games and wait for Manu to come back and work extra harder for us to stay in it. Let him start and have the teams try and cover the Big 3 from the opening tip.

[T Park]

Sounds like Finley might have been reading Spurstalk and wants to give everyone who hates him the basketball version of the middle finger.

[honestfool84]

Sounds like Finley might have been reading Spurstalk and wants to give everyone who hates him the basketball version of the middle finger.

:lmao

[benefactor]

This is VERY encouraging...I was angered by his new contract and the prospect of him getting way too many minutes and costing us critical games while Manu is recovering. It's great to see him doing all he can to live up to the responsibility that he will need to shoulder for the first part of the season.

[tp2021]

http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l315/Jamz1976/Sports/371.jpg

oooh dayum dat boi iz foine!

[duncan228]

Can anyone find a picture of him from media day?

The only place I found his Media Day team pic for the season is Getty. It doesn't seem to be anywhere else, and he's not even in the slideshow on Spurs.com. Weird.

http://www.gettyimages.com/Search/Search.aspx?contractUrl=2&language=en-US&family=editorial&p=michael%20finley&assetType=image&src=quick#

[wisnub]

Good to hear from physical standpoint....if he add it with mental practice for shooting improvement and racking 200 3 pts a day that would be a great help as well

[baseline bum]

No tex-mex? That's like telling someone no more pussy.

[DPG21920]

Damn he looks lean. I am really glad they resigned him, it gives the Spurs more depth (when Manu's healthy) at the 2 spot than almost any other team.

[Solid D]

15 pounds = 1 bowling ball

Fin will move better.

As timvp had noted well before the off-season started, the lateral movement was a problem for Fin. It was even worse for Horry, who looked like he was wearing concrete overshoes against slashers.

[I Love Me Some Me]

Let me wax cynical here for a moment....but, wouldn't you also get your fatass in shape if you were looking for a couple more years and few million more dollars?

[DPG21920]

Let me wax cynical here for a moment....but, wouldn't you also get your fatass in shape if you were looking for a couple more years and few million more dollars?

He already had the money no matter what

[DROB4EVER]

Having lost that amount of weight will really improve his game. I bet he shoot much better this year. I wouldnt be surprised to seem him getting 25 mpg at sf and sg.

Reminds me of when Nick Anderson form Orlando took off 7 lbs and had an all star year.

I had no idea Fin was that heavy.

[SpursFanFirst]

Can't wait to see the new and improved Fin. I'd follow his diet if I didn't like tex-mex and fried chicken and red meats so much.:lol

:lol I'm right there with ya!

[Spurs Brazil]

Along with pickup games, Finley went through muscle-activation training, massages and therapy to recharge his body. Grover noticed a dip in Finley's lateral movement, so they concentrated on the flexibility in his hip area to improve his mobility.

This is good news
Finley knew where his biggest weakness was and he worked to improve it.


Bryan Chu

I don't know who is this guy but I hope McDonald is gone

[024]

With Barry and Horry gone, losing Finley would have been a huge blow. I don't think he deserves to be a starter at this point in his career, but as a bench player with limited minutes he's solid. Plus, he's a great player to have on the bench to call in crunchtime situations in the playoffs.

i agree, as long as finley provides stability to the bench and provides much needed clutch in the playoffs, he will be an asset. he definitely should not be a starter but should reform his role to be a solid backup.

[spurs_fan_in_exile]

Having lost that amount of weight will really improve his game. I bet he shoot much better this year. I wouldnt be surprised to seem him getting 25 mpg at sf and sg.

Reminds me of when Nick Anderson form Orlando took off 7 lbs and had an all star year.

I had no idea Fin was that heavy.

Well according to something I read not too long ago for every one pound you lose you can take up to four pounds of pressure off your leg joints. For a guy who pretty much lives and dies as a jump shooter in this system I think you're absolutely right about him improving his percentage. A shooter with tired legs isn't of much use to anyone.

Any improvement with his defense would be welcome but I made my peace with the fact that he was never going to set the world on fire as a defender the moment he signed with the Spurs.

[temujin]

He already had the money no matter what

Maybe he put money in Lehman Bros.

[Obstructed_View]

Sounds like Finley might have been reading Spurstalk and wants to give everyone who hates him the basketball version of the middle finger.

If he shows up in shape, works on both ends of the floor and isn't a complete liability, he'll remove the reason people hate him.

[michaelwcho]

ok. didn't exactly want to question the overall work ethic, maybe more if he worked smart, which is also a sign of professionalism.
(btw. having already crossed all the mentioned age lines, I know very well what the body does when getting older.).
I guess I talk for all ballers when I say that shooting for 2 hours is usually more fun than 2 hours of pure fitness training.
however, it's also about the nurture question. there I'm always surprised to hear at what a sub optimal level so many NBA players use to eat (I'm not just talking about Shaq), compared to many other athletes. if you are a pro athlete and want to get the best out of your body, you shouldn't start to at 25 or 30 to watch what you eat. this should be part of your live from day 1. yes, a 23 years old athlete usually doesn't suffer from it that much, but he won't be better either.

I wonder what diet Bruce uses and if it wasn't him to advice Finley how to get in best shape for a 35+.

Bruce's diet is horrible, according to his interview in Men's Fitness last year. He met the reporter and the first question was about diet, just as a plate of nachos arrived--supposedly they just laughed and moved on to the next question.

My theory is a racial-socio-economic one. Because the NBA culture seems to be heavily tied into Afro-American, it would make sense that there would be a lot of fried food and junk food. Unfortunately, in America our lower-income brackets also have terrible diets.

Presumably, the players would be even better and soar even higher if the diet issue ever changed.

[michaelwcho]

It's not from media day though Getty Images has 2 of Finley up on there site.

This is the pic attached to the article. I can't get over how slimmed down he looks. Props to him for putting this much work in at his age. Whether it pans out or not we'll have to wait and see.

http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l315/Jamz1976/Sports/371.jpg

There's only one problem. If he really lost the weight, who's our PF now?

[peacemaker885]

There's only one problem. If he really lost the weight, who's our PF now?

Finley plays 2 guard and SF. Maybe PF during micro ball, but I don't think this is often.

[T Park]

If he shows up in shape, works on both ends of the floor and isn't a complete liability, he'll remove the reason people hate him.

what was everyones excuse in 06 and 07????

[bdictjames]

Good for Finley. I hope this transcends to 8-10 PPG at a good shooting rate off the bench.

[T Park]

Good for Finley. I hope this transcends to 8-10 PPG at a good shooting rate off the bench.

He averaged 10 last year in a "bad" year.

[tp2021]

Turn up your sarcasm detector, peacemaker.

[Sissiborgo]

Without a doubt...:toast

[peacemaker885]

Turn up your sarcasm detector, peacemaker.

Oops..a bit rusty here..

[angelbelow]

i like what i read.

[timvp]

http://spurstalk.com/finley-before-after.jpg

Pretty drastic.

[T Park]

looks like the muscle mass went down in his arms as well.

[Fabbs]

wasn't Finley always called the super pro, but this season for the first time in his career he starts to work to get his body in perfect shape?
wait there is something wrong about this.
it's great when he does it, but I don't see why the whole forum starts to rave and praise his work ethic, when in fact he carried 10 or more extra pounds last season.
athletes in almost any other sport will only deliver at best, when they are in the best shape possible. put 10 extra pounds on Michael Phelps and he won't win a single gold medal.

so ok, Finley learned that his mobility dropped to the level of a Hyppo last season and he decided to work harder. so obviously there was much room for improvement.
the Spurs waited till the end of August till they re signed him. I can very well see that they waited that long to see if Finley works on his body and I can very well see them ask him to do so, or they won't be interested. no matter what they call things now.
Exactly.
Don't expect an answer here on ST.
Oh wait, here is one:

He listened to what Pop said, worked his ass off and earned a spot on this team. Seems praise-worthy to me. If you ask Fin why he didn't do this years ago, he'll probably tell you that's an excellent question.
So Pop did not tell him that in his previous 3 years as Spur? :lol:lol:downspin::downspin: And the 20 million dollar a year *consumerate professional* needed to be told this in order to work out offseason?
Spare us!

[T Park]

So Fabbs,

are you saying that Finley is not a professional and is lazy?


Hmm. Link to back that up? He is always the last to leave practice at the gym.

[Solid D]

If Bob Hill had been Fin's coach, Bob would have told Fin to look in the mirror 3 years ago and Fin would have scored more points.

[T Park]

If Bob Hill had been Fin's coach, Bob would have told Fin to look in the mirror 3 years ago and Fin would have scored more points.

:lol

Theres gotta be story behind this.

[Fabbs]

So Fabbs,

are you saying that Finley is not a professional and is lazy?


Hmm. Link to back that up? He is always the last to leave practice at the gym.
Are you avoiding answering the question T-Park? An answer that obviously does not put your glorified Finley in rose colored glasses light?

As was brought out many posts ago, why is it just this year that he comes in such great shape? The one answer was because "the great and powerful Popped told him to." :lol:lol:lol

Why did he not do the same offseason workout the last 3 years, come into camp in great shape?

I'm waiting for an answer T-Park. :toast

[polandprzem]

looks like the muscle mass went down in his arms as well.

:lmao


expert

[timtonymanu]

http://spurstalk.com/finley-before-after.jpg



wow... Finley looks younger and more fit. im happy he realized he needed to work on himself.

[polandprzem]

ok. didn't exactly want to question the overall work ethic, maybe more if he worked smart, which is also a sign of professionalism.
(btw. having already crossed all the mentioned age lines, I know very well what the body does when getting older.).
I guess I talk for all ballers when I say that shooting for 2 hours is usually more fun than 2 hours of pure fitness training.
however, it's also about the nurture question. there I'm always surprised to hear at what a sub optimal level so many NBA players use to eat (I'm not just talking about Shaq), compared to many other athletes. if you are a pro athlete and want to get the best out of your body, you shouldn't start to at 25 or 30 to watch what you eat. this should be part of your live from day 1. yes, a 23 years old athlete usually doesn't suffer from it that much, but he won't be better either.

Yah it's laughable to me how they handling the diet issue.
I know many examples of people who have their diet made to perfection and still are unable to have such physic as many NBA players. NBA players have rough tough scheudle filled with games so they are not able to go to gym every day. Still they have bigger muscles then those amateurs who train only for muscles and they do not have bball practice and exhausing games, travellings etc.
Your body needs from 48 to 72 hours (depends) on the recovery. When and how load the batteries?


I know that guy from kentucky along with Mr McDonald uses great persuasion but they are not helping your body "reacharge".

[T Park]

:lmao


expert


Ever since your serious ownage of the steroids issue, you oughtta lay lower there pal.

[InRareForm]

You mean he will actually be able to dunk?

[polandprzem]

Ever since your serious ownage of the steroids issue, you oughtta lay lower there pal.

I'm not gonna lay because I owned somebody

[T Park]

I'm not gonna lay because I owned somebody

You owned nobody.


You were owned by 20 people in one thread.

Hell Kori said you were dumber than a bag of rocks :lmao

I have the sig to prove it :lmao

[polandprzem]

You were owned by 20 people in one thread.

Name them and show the ownage.

Can you?

[T Park]

Name them and show the ownage.

Can you?

Go look at the thread where Kori says your dumber than a bag of rocks.

Probably 20 is a small guess.

[polandprzem]

Go look at the thread where Kori says your dumber than a bag of rocks.

Probably 20 is a small guess.

Are you working on your list?

[Manufan909]

Hope this means the 06-07 Finley is back.

[T Park]

Are you working on your list?

Kori Ellis and Chump are two off the top of my head.

Are you looking for the thread where you made an ass of yourself in falsely accusing American basketball players of taking steroids? Have you apologized for such slanderous statements yet?

[outmap]

Hope this means the 06-07 Finley is back.

Hope it's the 00-01 Finley! :flag:

[timtonymanu]

Hope it's the 00-01 Finley! :flag:

or any year where his average was 20 points a game

[polandprzem]

Kori Ellis and Chump are two off the top of my head.

Are you looking for the thread where you made an ass of yourself in falsely accusing American basketball players of taking steroids? Have you apologized for such slanderous statements yet?

That makes two?
18 left (on your funny list)


btw. I don't need no shittalking from a guy that had to do a surgery to lose fat! I mean muscles, right?

[Manufan909]

God, you're both idiots. I speak literally of polandprezm, but you, tpark, should know better. You know you could put him on ignore if you don't have the strength of will to not respond to his jabs?

[polandprzem]

God, you're both idiots. I speak literally of polandprezm, but you, tpark, should know better. You know you could put him on ignore if you don't have the strength of will to not respond to his jabs?

:lol

[Obstructed_View]

what was everyones excuse in 06 and 07????



http://spurstalk.com/finley-before-after.jpg

[Obstructed_View]

Exactly.
Don't expect an answer here on ST.
Oh wait, here is one:

So Pop did not tell him that in his previous 3 years as Spur? :lol:lol:downspin::downspin: And the 20 million dollar a year *consumerate professional* needed to be told this in order to work out offseason?
Spare us!

"Consumerate"?

[Fabbs]

consummate

T_Park is but one of the consummate avoiders on all subjects FinleyPopper.

[polandprzem]

Okay Tpark when you finish to complete the list next thing is to tell me what an ownage is.

Because saying somebody is stupid... well I don't buy that cause everybody can post that.

If you finish that, give an answer about Finley questions.

[Obstructed_View]

consummate

T_Park is but one of the consummate avoiders on all subjects FinleyPopper.

So you'd rather spew rhetoric than actually debate the issue? Big surprise. Strange that you'd accuse someone else of being an avoider...

I've given my reasons why I think Fin ended up where he was, and as someone that's been highly critical of him the last few years, I can give him benefit of the doubt about his conditioning because he was always in the gym, so his sluggishness wasn't really out of a desire not to do well or help the team. He had to find a way to work smarter instead of harder, so I give him credit for taking it upon himself to think outside the box about his situation, but I never suggested that it wasn't the prospect of not making the team that inspired him to do it in the first place.

Even if what I just said makes sense to you, you won't admit it, because you never back away from one of your takes once you've made it, and that makes you an idiot.

[Fabbs]

What are you making up?

[Fabbs]

He had to find a way to work smarter instead of harder, so I give him credit for taking it upon himself to think outside the box about his situation, but I never suggested that it wasn't the prospect of not making the team that inspired him to do it in the first place.

That is one of the stupidest takes ever.
Meanwhile all you could find was a spelling error on my take. Which you avoided answering. And you're spewing about idiocy and avoidance. :lmao:lmao

So you're claiming in offseason 2005, 6 and 7 that a man who made 20 million a year did not have access to personal trainers/dieticians etc who could show him how to work out smarter. Beyond lame.

[Obstructed_View]

That is one of the stupidest takes ever.
Meanwhile all you could find was a spelling error on my take. Which you avoided answering. And you're spewing about idiocy and avoidance. :lmao:lmao

Dude, you seriously need to learn how to fuckin' read. It's funny that you'd suggest that the part you quoted was one of the stupidest takes ever when it was pretty close to agreeing what you've suggested all along.



So you're claiming in offseason 2005, 6 and 7 that a man who made 20 million a year did not have access to personal trainers/dieticians etc who could show him how to work out smarter. Beyond lame.
Never said any such thing. Glad you have these strawmen to beat up on because otherwise you'd have nothing to say.

[T Park]

U wanna rip on fin for his shooting that's fine but you can't question his work ethic nor his dedication.

[The Franchise]

Hope it's the 00-01 Finley! :flag:

He definitely looks the part. :wow

[kobe_bryant]

the scrub known as tpark.....owned again

[SpurSupremacist]

Surprising how 15 pounds can make a difference on your knees and ankles. Don't be suprised to see Fin doing a little more jumping than he has in recent years.

Take a look at the lift Finley got on that huge shot he hit against the Suns. His lift didn't look too bad to me.

[icem]

hes 35....

[MannyIsGod]

I saw him on the news tonight and was blown away by how slim he looks. We'll see how much of a difference it makes, but its really noticeable.

[polandprzem]

U wanna rip on fin for his shooting that's fine but you can't question his work ethic nor his dedication.

You can't question the list of twenty as well

[Obstructed_View]

Take a look at the lift Finley got on that huge shot he hit against the Suns. His lift didn't look too bad to me.

It's not really a matter of the ability to jump, it's just how much your knees and ankles hurt when you do.

[Manufan909]

Or how many times you can jump.

[Obstructed_View]

Or how many times you can jump.
Or how willing you are to even jump in the first place. :)

[Avitus1]

I hope that all of this pays off in the end for Findawg and the Spurs.