Apologize to Brent Barry in this thread [Archive]

Aggie Hoopsfan

02-12-2005, 01:11 AM

Barry doesn't show up for one game against the Wizards (when the rest of the team is MIA also) and gets ripped.

Rose shows up for one game every 20 games, and all the critics owe him an apology and hero worship.

Nice hypocrisy.

T Park

02-12-2005, 01:13 AM

Rose showed up against Charlotte La and Washington and still didnt get recognition from you.

But not suprising the hypocrisy from YOU.

mattyc

02-12-2005, 01:13 AM

I swear we have these threads every time Bones hits a shot.

whottt

02-12-2005, 01:14 AM

Where was he against Washington.

Um, when he went out of the game in the first half we were up by 12 points...the rest of the time was on the bench until there were 32 seconds left in the game and we were down by 6. At which point he came in and hit 1-2 from 3 point range.

Lets see what he does with Miami.

He can't do shit from the bench.

T Park

02-12-2005, 01:15 AM

when the rest of the team is MIA also

Tony Parker and Malik Rose showed up.

Where was Barry

1-7.

Great to see him shoot good tonight.

Lets see him do it against Miami again.

whottt

02-12-2005, 01:18 AM

Tony Parker and Malik Rose showed up.

Where was Barry

1-7.

Great to see him shoot good tonight.

Lets see him do it against Miami again.

Barry is shooting 36% from 3 point range...Is Rasho even shooting that from 2?

I'm gonna be on your ass so quick the next time Rasho has one of his patented 0-9's with 2 rebounds.

T Park

02-12-2005, 01:19 AM

Of course.

Why not pile on tonight.

He had 2 points 4 boards in 12 minutes.

Played like shit.

Go ahead, pile on Rasho, I dont give a fuck.

I dont take it personally like you do over the Coyote and Brent Barry.

Solid D

02-12-2005, 01:20 AM

Yeah, mates and apologise to me as well. I could be sittin' between two All-Stars.

http://www.hammer.net.au/photos/NBA-005.jpg

whottt

02-12-2005, 01:21 AM

I dont take it personally like you do over the Coyote and Brent Barry.

LMAO. Right.

Johnny_Blaze_47

02-12-2005, 01:21 AM

Yeah, mates and apologise to me as well. I could be sittin' between two All-Stars.

http://www.hammer.net.au/photos/NBA-005.jpg

:lmao

T Park

02-12-2005, 01:21 AM

lmao^

whottt

02-12-2005, 01:21 AM

I love choking in the post season

T Park

02-12-2005, 01:22 AM

LMAO. Right.

I havent seen any Rasho > (insert mascot here) so no I havent.

Only times Ive defended him are when people incorrectly critisize things that happen that arent his fuckin fault.

T Park

02-12-2005, 01:23 AM

lmao.

Shane Heal wouldve saved the SPurs last year no question.

lmfao.....

whottt

02-12-2005, 01:24 AM

I havent seen any Rasho > (insert mascot here) so no I havent.

Only times Ive defended him are when people incorrectly critisize things that happen that arent his fuckin fault.

You have a major vaginal discharge every single time someone mentions his name without kissing his ass.

Look at your fucking title.

whottt

02-12-2005, 01:25 AM

lmao.

Shane Heal wouldve saved the SPurs last year no question.

lmfao.....

Would he have done worse than Anthony Carter did for us?

Fuck that...Would he have done worse than Hedo?

whottt

02-12-2005, 01:28 AM

Got amazingly quiet.

I'm ready to compare playoff stats if anyone else is. :)

Solid D

02-12-2005, 01:32 AM

It got amazingly boring in here.

whottt

02-12-2005, 01:33 AM

I like to keep clicking on threads that bore me

Johnny_Blaze_47

02-12-2005, 01:34 AM

2003-04 Playoffs

Turkoglu, Hidayet 7.7PPG, 4.5 RPG
Heal, Shane DNP

I'm just sayin'.

whottt

02-12-2005, 01:36 AM

I too love choking in the playoffs

Johnny_Blaze_47

02-12-2005, 01:37 AM

I'm just saying...you said compare playoff stats.

I did.

ChumpDumper

02-12-2005, 01:39 AM

What am I supposed to apologize for?

Being right again?

Johnny_Blaze_47

02-12-2005, 01:41 AM

I too have man-love for the Australian Sequ.

whottt

02-12-2005, 01:42 AM

I just don't get why people continually hold Heal over my head as if they have some kind of scoreboard when the truth is he wasn't given a chance like the chosen ones were...and we fucking choked from the perimeter in the playoffs.

Say what ever you want about Heal but there is nothing to indicate he is playoff choker and what little knowledge we have about his post season experience points to the exact opposite.

ChumpDumper

02-12-2005, 01:43 AM

Not much to indicate he could play in the NBA either.

Johnny_Blaze_47

02-12-2005, 01:43 AM

whottt

02-12-2005, 01:45 AM

What am I supposed to apologize for?

Being right again?

You've been right once and even that was nothing more than an example of your oneness with the Popsac...

Just be glad TimVP is sporting a permanent redass over the AJ thing and he's helping you play up your one time of being marginally right as some kind of big victory.

whottt

02-12-2005, 01:46 AM

Not much to indicate he could play in the NBA either.

Yeah, good thing we cut him or we might have choked in the post season.

ChumpDumper

02-12-2005, 01:47 AM

You've been right onceWhat was I wrong about tonight?

Nothing.
Yeah, good thing we cut him or we might have choked in the post season.I was all for getting someone who actually had NBA game.

It wasn't Heal.

whottt

02-12-2005, 01:51 AM

What was I wrong about tonight?

Don't think I missed your little comments after the Washington game.

I'm just careful about arguing with you since TimVP feels the need to take an active role in our feud...he might end up giving you my password if you correctly guess that Pop will yell at a player during a game.

And anyway...wrong is your natural state.

Nothing.I was all for getting someone who actually had NBA game.

It wasn't Heal.

Shane Heal's career post season FG% is 1000%.

It's not much to go on but it does indicate he doesn't get clenched buttcheeks in the post season like your choices did.

ChumpDumper

02-12-2005, 01:54 AM

Don't think I missed your little comments after the Washington game.
Which one? Speak up, bitch.
It's not much to go onIt's nothing. A couple of games from another decade is nothing.
like your choices did.My choice was Sura. You gave up after December.

ChumpDumper

02-12-2005, 02:00 AM

This must be it:
Barry could be better. http://spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=10457&page=1&pp=26

Good God, what was I thinking?

whottt

02-12-2005, 02:04 AM

.My choice was Sura.

And Sura was not your first choice...It was Alex Garcia, then it was Ward, then it was Hedo>Manu.

And then after all that FUCKING WRONG, then you got around to Bobby Sura.

Right...Bobby Sura

Bobby Sura that shot 250% from 3 point range in 82 games last season.

BOBBY SURA THAT HAS NEVER EVEN HIT A FUCKING POST SEASON 3 POINTER.

BOBBY SURA THAT IS A CAREER 375% SHOOTER IN THE POST SEASON!

You gave up after December.

Idiot...go jump off the tallest building in the world, or else you are a coward.

Go on do it...don't be scurred

Technically I didn't, I was only bitching when were going to cut Heal and keep Carter. I stupidly started to listen to the opinion of those that know less about the game than I do...

The fact that I foresaw the problems caused by the stupid decisions being made does not mean that I gave up...

ChumpDumper

02-12-2005, 02:09 AM

Bobby Suracan run the point. You didn't notice we needed an actual point guard, but that's expected.
Technically I didn't, I was only bitching when were going to cut Heal and keep Carter.Technically fuck yourself. All you do is bitch. I know you think three pointers are the only measure of an NBA player. You are wrong and always have been about that.

ChumpDumper

02-12-2005, 02:12 AM

BOBBY SURA THAT HAS NEVER EVEN HIT A FUCKING POST SEASON 3 POINTER.
So you hated Speedy Claxton too.

And Barry when he misses his threes.

We understand.

ChumpDumper

02-12-2005, 02:17 AM

whottt

02-12-2005, 02:19 AM

can run the point. You didn't notice we needed an actual point guard,

You didn't notice that I never claimed Heal was an actual point guard, nor was I advocating he be used as one...I was advocating he be used as a 3 point specialist at the guard spot...something he was more capable of doing than Carter or Hart.

Technically fuck yourself.

Technically I can't.

All you do is bitch.

That's not true...I was probably the most optimistic poster on the forum about this season in the preseason..

By the way...where your are preseason predictions, fencerider?

I bitch when there is a legitimate reason to bitch.

I know you think three pointers are the only measure of an NBA player.

No douche...I do not think they are the only measure of an NBA player...but they are a necessity on this team for it to win a title...in case you haven't been paying attention the past 15 years.

At the very least we need the threat.

In fact they are a necessity for most teams wanting to win an NBA title in the modern NBA.

You are wrong and always have been about that.

I'm not wrong about their importance on this team...or their importance in deterring double teams, especially the kind Phil Jackson likes to implement...

whottt

02-12-2005, 02:24 AM

I won't jump off the empire state building but how about a nice swan dive off the cliff of stupidity

ChumpDumper

02-12-2005, 02:25 AM

You didn't notice that I never claimed Heal was an actual point guardbut that is exactly what was needed. So your argument means nothing.
but they are a necessity on this team for it to win a title...in case you haven't been paying attention the past 15 years.

At the very least we need the threat. Funny, we win two championships with heavy contributions from AJ and Claxton who each never hit a three pointer in the post season and all the sudden it's a necessity for any guard who holds the ball. You've just been proven wrong. Again.

whottt

02-12-2005, 02:29 AM

Look, we got a guy who shot well from the arc in the playoffs before, with a much better sample size than 2 fucking shots (please prove to me these weren't in garbage time). It didn't work. What on earth is your point?

I don't know...what's the point of those that bring up Heal as if it is some kind of scoreboard? What exactly are they so proud of? Ward sucking ass? Hedo choking? I don't see the room for chest thumping...

That he would have choked is a myth...that the guys we kept in his place choked, is a fact.

And as for garbage time...who knows, since his sucking doesn't seem to be influenced by garbage time or pressure time, more like he's either hot or he's not...I don't think it's a valid question.

And one would argue that the first two post season shots of your NBA career could never be a low pressure situation...more like the biggest shots of your life..regardless of score.

ChumpDumper

02-12-2005, 02:32 AM

I don't think it's a valid question. Of course it is.
And one would argue that the first two post season shots of your NBA career could never be a low pressure situation...more like the biggest shots of your life..regardless of score.If it was garbage time, one would be a dumbass to try to use that weak shit as a barometer for playoff success a decade later.
That he would have choked is a myth. It's speculation, just like your thinking he wouldn't. Why act like your idle speculation is somehow better than anyone else's?

whottt

02-12-2005, 02:37 AM

but that is exactly what was needed. So your argument means nothing.

So you say...I can say we lost.

Funny, we win two championships with heavy contributions from AJ and Claxton who each never hit a three pointer in the post season and all the sudden it's a necessity for any guard who holds the ball.

Yeah well...Steve Kerr played a bigger role in the 03 title than Speedy did...not to mention the other 5 fucking rings he won.

And you must not have watched the 99 title run if you don't think our three point shooting was absolutely essential to winning that title.

You've just been proven wrong. Again.

LMAO what ever.

Our ability to hit threes was the difference between our title winning teams and our chokes.

whottt

02-12-2005, 02:40 AM

Of course it is.If it was garbage time, one would be a dumbass to try to use that weak shit as a barometer for playoff success a decade later.

Well it certainly doesn't point towards him being a playoff choker now does it?

It's speculation, just like your thinking he wouldn't. Why act like your idle speculation is somehow better than anyone else's?

Becuase my idle speculation wasn't proven wrong, it wasn't given the chance to be, and my predictions of your idle speculations were proven right.

And furthermore...I'm not the one that brings up...invariably some clown brings it up for some unknown reason like it's something I am supposed ashamed of..why? I wasn't proven wrong...you guys were.

ChumpDumper

02-12-2005, 02:48 AM

So you say...I can say we lost.So I can say we lost because we didn't get Sura then too. Whoop de diddly doo.
Yeah well...WEll what? We had players on the floor who couldn't hit threes and won championships. So you're wrong saying a guy who doesn't hit threes is worthless. End of story. AJ knows it, Claxton knows it, Bob Dole knows it, the American public knows it.
Becuase my idle speculation wasn't proven wrongLMFAO. When was Sura a Spur again?
my predictions of your idle speculations were proven right. What was my prediction again? Championships? I said Ward was the best signing we could make at the time and that was absolutely true. I wanted Sura because that was doable.

ChumpDumper

02-12-2005, 02:51 AM

Say what ever you want about HealI'll say he didn't shoot the three well in the NBA, and I'll use a sample size that's over 4000% larger than yours saying he's awesome and guarantees championships.

ChumpDumper

02-12-2005, 02:57 AM

ChumpDumper

02-12-2005, 02:57 AM

Now I'm going to do the quote thing because I can't argue with any of that.

whottt

02-12-2005, 03:00 AM

So I can say we lost because we didn't get Sura then too.

Sura wasn't an option at the time.

Whoop de diddly doo.WEll what? We had players on the floor who couldn't hit threes and won championships.

Stupid statement.

So you're wrong saying a guy who doesn't hit threes is worthless. End of story. AJ knows it, Claxton knows it, Bob Dole knows it, the American public knows it.LMFAO.

Another stupid statement.

When was Sura a Spur again?What was my prediction again? Championships? I said Ward was the best signing we could make at the time and that was absolutely true.

Sura wasn't an option at the time, nor was Ward.

I wanted Sura because that was doable.

Well shit, if we are just going to throw random trades out there why not get Reggie? That was doable too.

whottt

02-12-2005, 03:04 AM

And furthermore, I would rather have guys that currently have a combined 31-14 record as starters this year as my backup point guard who may at any time be tapped to start than a guy who can't run the point or really shoot the three in the NBA as well as the mythmakers would have us believe.

You are stupider than I thought.

You'd have actually given up something to sign Charlie Ward lmao.

Ward and Sura were both under contract to other teams and Heal was more capable of playing back up PG than Carter was...you guys just didn't see it.

whottt

02-12-2005, 03:06 AM

Meanwhile...I continue to be dead on concerning Barry's impact on this team.

Nearly every fucking time Pop tries to get cute with his minutes in the second half we struggle mightily and usually lose the game.

Que Gee

02-12-2005, 10:23 AM

Exactly! That has been the issue all year. When Barry gets consistent minutes like starting, or over 20 minutes in a game, while playing with the starters, he does fine. Last night was a perfect example. Keep it that way Pop! And those of you bagging on Barry for the Wizards game, the guy played 11 minutes with the second team.

T Park

02-12-2005, 11:55 AM

1-7 is 1-7 KG.
Starters, secondary players, whatever.

I dont know why Brent Barry gets so many free passes for.

ChumpDumper

02-12-2005, 11:34 PM

When we lose, Barry is shooting .313 from the floor, dead last in Spurs guards -- no wonder he plays less in those games.

T Park

02-12-2005, 11:39 PM

Thats pop's fault.

Duh.

ducks

02-12-2005, 11:41 PM

damm chump you sure need to be nicer to whott

I will praise him when he does well
I was hopping more from him
he better produce against the suns in the playoffs

ChumpDumper

02-12-2005, 11:41 PM

You'd have actually given up something to sign Charlie Ward lmao.no. We didn't have to. If you were anywhere close to intelligent you'd know that statement had nothing to do with Ward.
Ward and Sura were both under contract to other teamsGee, Ward sure turned out to be available. Common sense would tell you Sura would be available for another expiring contract and maybe some cash or a second rounder -- we had all of the above. Heal simply wasn't that good. Period. None of your bitching can change that.

ChumpDumper

02-12-2005, 11:42 PM

I will praise him when he does well
I was hopping more from himWe live in hop.

Barry can do better. Hootie already sold him short once -- he was wrong then too.

whottt

02-13-2005, 02:23 AM

Chump you imcomparable fuckwit.

I didn't sell him short, I sold Pop's intelligence short...but just barely...I bitched then, what I bitched about the other night.

Pop not playing him in the seond half.

He got over 10 minutes in our last loss...did I bitch? Yep. It's because of the way he played him.

Was you that tried to make the issue about minutes you unmitigated leadbrained douchebag.

You are so fucking dense.

And now you are contradicting yourself as well...

Orginally you claimed you weren't bitching about his shooting...you said were bitching about his being afraid to shooting...now I nailed you ass bitching about shooting PCT.

On top of that you dumbass, Ward was weeks if not months away from being released at the time we had the Heal argument...Idiot. Look at the last game Heal played for us and then look at when we signed Ward.

And lastly on Sura...I didn't want to trade for your scrub Florida State piece of shit guard.

Idiot at the time you claimed wanted a 3 shooting guard as well...and your fucking choice was a dude who has never hit a 3 pointer in the post season.

Just STFU.

whottt

02-13-2005, 02:25 AM

Oh and the last word for idiots like you and TPark that advocate not playing a player in the second half if he has bad PCT in the first half...

In that Phoenix game he didn't hit his second shot until the beginning of the 4th quarter...he was 1-5 at that point.

Dumbasses.

Fucking Stupid.