Spot Number 50 - Top 50 Spurs

[timvp]

SpursTalk's Top 50 Spurs
1. Tim Duncan
2. David Robinson
3. George Gervin
4. Gregg Popovich
5. Angelo Drossos
6. Manu Ginobili
7. Tony Parker
8. Sean Elliott
9. James Silas
10. Bruce Bowen
11. Larry Kenon
12. Avery Johnson
13. Alvin Robertson
14. Johnny Moore
15. RC Buford
16. Artis Gilmore
17. Peter Holt
18. Mike Mitchell
19. Bob Bass
20. Malik Rose
21. Robert Horry
22. Red McCombs
23. Doug Moe
24. Terry Cummings
25. Mario Elie
26. Willie Anderson
27. Billy Paultz
28. Robert McDermott
29. Stephen Jackson
30. Mark Olberding
31. Stan Albeck
32. Brent Barry
33. Mike Budenholzer
34. Swen Nater
35. Larry Brown
36. Rod Strickland
37. Michael Finley
38. Jaren Jackson
39. Hank Egan
40. PJ Carlesimo
41. Sam Presti
42. Steve Kerr
43. Rich Jones
44. Gene Banks
45. Vinny Del Negro
46. Mike Gale
47. Dennis Rodman
48. Coby Dietrick
49. Dave Corzine

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To pass the time until the start of preseason, let's see how SpursTalk.com ranks the Top 50 Spurs. Those eligible for the list include all players, coaches and owners. I don't want to define "top" too narrowly, but I think the best way to do it would be to think of the list as a list of the 50 most influential people who have helped make the Spurs one of the most successful franchises in the history of sport.

For more information on what we are doing, check out this thread (http://spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=103061).

In this thread, we will vote for spot number 50. Please place your vote. If you will, also explain in this thread why you voted how you did.

Thanks.



P.S.

Poll options listed in alphabetical order. If you want to vote for someone not on the list, post in the thread and I'll add the person.

Voting will end 2AM CST Monday morning.

Please vote only once.

[NuGGeTs-FaN]

Tie for Dermarr Johnson and Francisco Elson, no explanation needed :smokin

[Kobayagi]

Oberto twice and no Rasho?

[timvp]

Oberto twice and no Rasho?LOL. Fixed, sorry.

[samikeyp]

Write in for the Coyote!! :lol

[Spurs Brazil]

The Rifleman

[SenorSpur]

Name another former Spurs player that lead the league in blocked shots while playing for the club?

Answer: George Johnson

And he did it twice with the Spurs. He needs to be on this list. Period.

[samikeyp]

Good call. I had forgotten about that. Damn, oh well, I guess my Person vote sticks!

[Spooky]

George Johnson

[Spurtacus]

Write in for the Coyote!! :lol

[manufor3]

nazr!

[exstatic]

I thought about voting defensively to stop Bob Hill or Rasho, but I figured WTF. If you people want to vote them in, go ahead.

I voted Oberto because he embarrassed one of the NBA players that I hate the most, and had one of the most complete playoff series for a Spurs big man since DRob retired. I am of course, talking about Carlos Boozer and the 2007 WCFs.

[sendman]

Oberto twice and no Rasho?
Some people would do anything, just to make their point...even cheat.
People who wanted to vote for Rasho were denied to do so, for quite some time.
But again, it's not like this is the first time somebody is cheating you with your votes. You people are used to it.:lmao

[baseline bum]

Come on Rasho... you're the best 7-foot vagina in team history!

[anakha]

Some people would do anything, just to make their point...even cheat.
People who wanted to vote for Rasho were denied to do so, for quite some time.
But again, it's not like this is the first time somebody is cheating you with your votes. You people are used to it.:lmao

Last time, your excuse was that people were just sheep following whatever timvp said, voting-wise.

Now, it's "we were cheated"? :lol:lol:lol

[Obstructed_View]

Some people would do anything, just to make their point...even cheat.
Or lie, like you did.

[Trainwreck2100]

Tim Derk

[2centsworth]

one of the greatest shooters of all-time can't make our top 50.

[samikeyp]

Glad to see George Johnson getting some love.

[SenorSpur]

Glad to see George Johnson getting some love.

Very nice. Looks like my campaign is working.

[samikeyp]

Very nice. Looks like my campaign is working.

Yes it is. I am glad to see some old school guys mixed in to this list. Too often we have too many people who forget that there was basketball played before 1990. :)

And before people start in on me, I am in no way discounting or degrading the current championship era of Spurs basketball. My point is simply that the Spurs have been a successful franchise for 40 years (if you count the Chapparal days) and a lot of these players are the reasons why. :toast

[SenorSpur]

Yes it is. I am glad to see some old school guys mixed in to this list. Too often we have too many people who forget that there was basketball played before 1990. :)

And before people start in on me, I am in no way discounting or degrading the current championship era of Spurs basketball. My point is simply that the Spurs have been a successful franchise for 40 years (if you count the Chapparal days) and a lot of these players are the reasons why. :toast

Couldn't agree more. Those old chapters of Spurs basketball, and the players that played on those squads, are no less important or significant than today. They should be celebrated. I encourage all new Spurs fans to learn and embrace about the rich history our franchise has over its nearly 40 years of existence.

[upGwham11]

My first post!!!!!

Excellent thread and I dedicate my first post to
Alvin Robertson as a Top 15 Spur... watching him play is what got me started as a Spurs fan when i was was a little squirt

In 1986 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1986), Robertson became the inaugural winner of the NBA Most Improved Player Award (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NBA_Most_Improved_Player_Award). This also marked the first of four National Basketball Association All-Star Game (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Basketball_Association_All-Star_Game) appearances for the guard (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basketball#Positions) (the others coming in 1987 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1987), 1988 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1988), and 1991 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1991)). He also won the NBA Defensive Player of the Year Award (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NBA_Defensive_Player_of_the_Year_Award) in 1986[1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alvin_Robertson#cite_note-0), and led the league in steals (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steal_(basketball)) in 1986, 1987 and 1991. Robertson still holds the top career steals-per-game average in the NBA (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Basketball_Association), with 2.71 per contest over 779 career games.[2] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alvin_Robertson#cite_note-1)
Robertson twice led the league in steals. In 1985-86 he averaged a league-leading 3.67 steals per game[3] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alvin_Robertson#cite_note-spg_leaders-2), a major factor in his earning the Defensive Player of the Year honor and being selected second-team All-NBA, one of only five players in Spurs' history to have been selected first, second or third-team All-NBA. He was a three-time All-Star. Only George Gervin (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Gervin), David Robinson (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Robinson_(basketball)) and Tim Duncan (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tim_Duncan) have represented the Spurs in more All-Star Games, while Manu Ginobili (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manu_Ginobili) still trails Robertson in appearances with one.[4] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alvin_Robertson#cite_note-3)
Robertson led the Spurs in steals four of the five seasons he was with the club, three times averaging more than three per game.[3] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alvin_Robertson#cite_note-spg_leaders-2) Though he played only five seasons in San Antonio, he ranks second in club history in total steals, with 1,129.
A multi-dimensional player, Robertson is one of only four NBA players to record a quadruple-double (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quadruple-double) (double digits in four statistical categories in a single game) when he registered 20 points, 11 rebounds (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rebound_(basketball)), 10 assists (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assist_(basketball)) and 10 steals whilst playing for the Spurs against the Phoenix Suns (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phoenix_Suns).[5] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alvin_Robertson#cite_note-4) He is also the only player to do so with steals as the fourth category (the other three were with blocks).[6] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alvin_Robertson#cite_note-5)

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[remingtonbo2001]

Coyote.

[baseline bum]

At least Bob Hill got kept off this list. I'd much rather have even Rodman on it than Hill.

[timvp]

I don't agree that George Johnson should go here but he's not a horrible pick. I just don't think that being a league leading shotblocker negates the fact that he couldn't score at all ... even on some of the highest scoring teams in Spurs history. Plus, if he was really that good, he'd have played more minutes during his tenure with the Spurs. On my personal list, Johnson would be closer to 60 than 50.

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

I think Timvp is just too young to remember GJ. :)




Personally I liked Johnson. True, he wasn't a scorer, but he was a defender on a team full of scorers, which in some ways set him apart and increased his value to the team. I remember watching him keeping teams honest in the paint. He wasn't stat-sheet, but he was solid. When he was with Golden State's NBA championship team he played about 25 minutes a game, so it's not as if he merely got playing time by default...he was a good player. He was a valuable role player, as much so as a lot of these other role players at the end of the list.







I'm just sad for EJ's ommission.... :depressed

Edgar Jones was highlight reel, and would have been in my top-50. If Edgar Jones had played in today's ESPN/Youtube promotional version of the game of basketball he'd of probably been the face of the franchise, albeit a toothless one. Every teenager I knew, myself included, marveled at his high flying ability.

Oh well.....Edgar, whereever you are, know that you'll always be my 47th favorite Spur of all-time. :)

[baseline bum]

Oh well.....Edgar, whereever you are, know that you'll always be my 47th favorite Spur of all-time. :)

:lol

[SenorSpur]

I think Timvp is just too young to remember GJ. :)




Personally I liked Johnson. True, he wasn't a scorer, but he was a defender on a team full of scorers, which in some ways set him apart and increased his value to the team. I remember watching him keeping teams honest in the paint. He wasn't stat-sheet, but he was solid. When he was with Golden State's NBA championship team he played about 25 minutes a game, so it's not as if he merely got playing time by default...he was a good player. He was a valuable role player, as much so as a lot of these other role players at the end of the list.







I'm just sad for EJ's ommission.... :depressed

Edgar Jones was highlight reel, and would have been in my top-50. If Edgar Jones had played in today's ESPN/Youtube promotional version of the game of basketball he'd of probably been the face of the franchise, albeit a toothless one. Every teenager I knew, myself included, marveled at his high flying ability.

Oh well.....Edgar, whereever you are, know that you'll always be my 47th favorite Spur of all-time. :)

Also keep in mind, that Johnson was the offical "paint presence". The intimidator and the official "break starter". His role was exactly what was needed. Those teams, under Albeck, were highly successful because not only could they outscore opponents, but they got out in transition. Much, in part, due to Johnson's exploits in the paint. When he wasn't blocking shots, he was altering them. They were a much better defensive team because of his presence.

[J.T.]

I look back at this top 50 list, and even though I didn't participate in most of it and early on was simply trolling it, the fondest memory I take away from it is blocking Rasho and Oberto from making the list here in the final week.

[SenorSpur]

I look back at this top 50 list, and even though I didn't participate in most of it and early on was simply trolling it, the fondest memory I take away from it is blocking Rasho and Oberto from making the list here in the final week.

:rollin

[The Truth #6]

Yeah Chuck Person probably should make the list. As should Walter Berry. I would have thought those would have already made it, thus paving the way for the legendary Ed Nealy. But it looks like it's going to the Flying Helicopter.

[manufor3]

wrong qu0te

[manufor3]

My first post!!!!!

Excellent thread and I dedicate my first post to
Alvin Robertson as a Top 15 Spur... watching him play is what got me started as a Spurs fan when i was was a little squirt

In 1986 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1986), Robertson became the inaugural winner of the NBA Most Improved Player Award (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NBA_Most_Improved_Player_Award). This also marked the first of four National Basketball Association All-Star Game (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Basketball_Association_All-Star_Game) appearances for the guard (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basketball#Positions) (the others coming in 1987 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1987), 1988 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1988), and 1991 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1991)). He also won the NBA Defensive Player of the Year Award (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NBA_Defensive_Player_of_the_Year_Award) in 1986[1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alvin_Robertson#cite_note-0), and led the league in steals (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steal_(basketball)) in 1986, 1987 and 1991. Robertson still holds the top career steals-per-game average in the NBA (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Basketball_Association), with 2.71 per contest over 779 career games.[2] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alvin_Robertson#cite_note-1)
Robertson twice led the league in steals. In 1985-86 he averaged a league-leading 3.67 steals per game[3] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alvin_Robertson#cite_note-spg_leaders-2), a major factor in his earning the Defensive Player of the Year honor and being selected second-team All-NBA, one of only five players in Spurs' history to have been selected first, second or third-team All-NBA. He was a three-time All-Star. Only George Gervin (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Gervin), David Robinson (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Robinson_(basketball)) and Tim Duncan (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tim_Duncan) have represented the Spurs in more All-Star Games, while Manu Ginobili (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manu_Ginobili) still trails Robertson in appearances with one.[4] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alvin_Robertson#cite_note-3)
Robertson led the Spurs in steals four of the five seasons he was with the club, three times averaging more than three per game.[3] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alvin_Robertson#cite_note-spg_leaders-2) Though he played only five seasons in San Antonio, he ranks second in club history in total steals, with 1,129.
A multi-dimensional player, Robertson is one of only four NBA players to record a quadruple-double (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quadruple-double) (double digits in four statistical categories in a single game) when he registered 20 points, 11 rebounds (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rebound_(basketball)), 10 assists (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assist_(basketball)) and 10 steals whilst playing for the Spurs against the Phoenix Suns (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phoenix_Suns).[5] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alvin_Robertson#cite_note-4) He is also the only player to do so with steals as the fourth category (the other three were with blocks).[6] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alvin_Robertson#cite_note-5)

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welcome

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

Write in for the Coyote!! :lol

Totally! Just what I was thinking.

And what about Big Dog Carr?

Also, Brett Brown - champion. Won championships in Oz, brought Gaze to the Spurs, got me into practice... true legend. he and Chip rock tha house! :D

[Obstructed_View]

I'd have loved to have spent more time campaigning for Dale Ellis, Antoine Carr and Chuck Person. If I made a Spurs top 50 list, they'd be on it.