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Dre_7
10-08-2008, 12:19 AM
At the 46 second mark.

Can you say, disrespetful?? Wow!

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Xylus
10-08-2008, 12:22 AM
Reach.

Anti.Hero
10-08-2008, 12:24 AM
Didn't really stand out to me, "This One, That One" who gives a shit.

You guys have this tied up. No need to nit-pick anymore.

Why should they respect each other? To keep on the long-tradition of being fake, being a politician. If I truly believed Obama would be horrible for America, I wouldn't even shake his fucking hand. Vice Versa.

InRareForm
10-08-2008, 12:27 AM
That is not a reach, there are far more words in the English language to use. It almost seemed planned.

LaMarcus Bryant
10-08-2008, 12:29 AM
This is a fucking stretch. Like less than a fourth as insulting as that big cooched hockey mom going out of the way to stick her mouth into Biden's mic and asking a United States Senator if she could call him by his first name.

Dre_7
10-08-2008, 12:33 AM
That one.

He could have said many other things. "My opponent," "him," "Sen. Obama," anything. Yet he doesnt even look at him for most of the first two debates and then calls him "that one." You may think it is a reach. I think it is like complete disrespect for his opponent.

LaMarcus Bryant
10-08-2008, 12:36 AM
I think an very old man who is nowhere near as sharp a toolshed tool as jackoff republicans wish he is was trying to adlib and smoothtalk in a debate to come off 'real' and that was just what popped out. I don't think it suggests anything other than that.

Anti.Hero
10-08-2008, 12:38 AM
I think you are right that he does not respect him but what difference does it make. Dude is 70 years old. They did not grow up in a sugar-coated world.

MannyIsGod
10-08-2008, 12:44 AM
It was actually fairly fucked up and its getting play. In a race where shit like this gets played out in the media you better believe this is going to be part of the news cycle.

PixelPusher
10-08-2008, 12:45 AM
Probably should have gone with the winking, 2 gun finger point and said "...this guy! Ke-chow!!!"

baseline bum
10-08-2008, 01:06 AM
At least he didn't say 'That boy', although he might as well have the way it sounded.

SnakeBoy
10-08-2008, 02:04 AM
Damn! You Obama groupies are some sensitive motherfuckers.

TomBrady
10-08-2008, 02:10 AM
That isn't even the worst part of the debate.

Did you see McCain totally diss Obama at the end? Obama extended his hand and McCain backed away and pointed to his wife who shaked his hand. That was just pathetic.

Who the fuck is running McCain's campaign? I'm not used to seeing Republicans fuck shit up this bad.

boutons_
10-08-2008, 03:57 AM
Referring to a person in your immediate group in the 3rd person (he/she) is an insult, in 3 different cultures I know well. The only acceptable, polite, civil address is to refer to them by name.

otoh, McLame is so uncomfortable with the English language that "that one" could be just an awkward, wooden-tongued fuckup, but I'm pretty sure it was planned and intended as an insult.

I'm sure that millions of civil people in audience, local and TV, saw it as an insult. Addressing someone by their name is one of the lessons of politeness learned by children at the dinner table in civil families.

Just more irrefutable, inarguable evidence that McBottomGun is and, according to the Rolling Stone mini-bio I posted, always has been an adolescent jerk and flaming asshole, "failing upward" with the help of his admiral father and grandfather, unworthy McSame benefitting from his family exactly the SAME as unworthy dubya.

HUSSEIN/Biden: 3W

McLoser/pitbull bitch: 3L

ChumpDumper
10-08-2008, 04:03 AM
Probably not as bad as it's been made out to be -- but the trick is to not do anything that can be made out to be that bad.

boutons_
10-08-2008, 05:06 AM
"the more worrisome moment of the debate came when McCain told a young, black questioner, "You've probably never heard of Fannie Mae." "

Condesceding, racist McAssHole strikes again! :lol

boutons_
10-08-2008, 05:09 AM
Little, shriveled McCracka be disrepkin, won't be touchin' on da big, strappin' nigga

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WI0iIOqPGak

McBottomGun is Whott's kind of racist

Findog
10-08-2008, 07:02 AM
"the more worrisome moment of the debate came when McCain told a young, black questioner, "You've probably never heard of Fannie Mae." "

Condesceding, racist McAssHole strikes again! :lol

Yeah, what the fuck was that about? "Heh heh, I know you darkies don't play the stock market..."

timvp
10-08-2008, 07:05 AM
Damn! You Obama groupies are some sensitive motherfuckers.

:lol Agree.

"That one" is now offensive? WTF? Holy shyt this country is getting soft.

Shastafarian
10-08-2008, 07:08 AM
:lol Agree.

"That one" is now offensive? WTF? Holy shyt this country is getting soft.

It's not offensive. It's disrespectful.

timvp
10-08-2008, 07:09 AM
It's not offensive. It's disrespectful.

"That one" is now disrespectful? WTF? Holy shyt this country is getting soft.

Shastafarian
10-08-2008, 07:20 AM
"That one" is now disrespectful? WTF? Holy shyt this country is getting soft.

Since when is referring to someone as "that one" instead of their name not disrespectful? And what does interpreting the meaning of words have to do with the country getting soft? WTF? Holy shyt this country is getting stupid.

boutons_
10-08-2008, 07:36 AM
As I predicted, McMeFirst shrunk even more as a person, as a man, as an opponent, on the national stage.

HUSSEIN is running a winning campaign, McFuckedUp is running a losing campaign.

HUSSEIN is a winner, McLame is a loser.

DarrinS
10-08-2008, 08:03 AM
No, what's disrepectful is a bunch of AIG execs going on a nearly half million dollar retreat at a resort while the govt. is bailing their ass out. What's disrespectful is baililng out Wall Street while my 401k loses 19%.


Bottom line, my freindz, is that I will vote for Obama in a heartbeat if he can get this economy going again. If McCain were a REAL "maverick", he would've had to balls to say NO to that bailout, like the majority of REPUBLICANS did.


FUCK, I hate this election and I hate stupid, moronic, limp-dicked threads like this. Whether or not McCain is my ideal candidate is immaterial. Sure, he pretty much got his ass handed to him in that debate. But, he absolutely doesn't OWE Obama any fuckin respect. Let Obama do something first.

01.20.09
10-08-2008, 08:27 AM
McCain doesn't even have the common courtesy to shake Obama's hand. What a wuss.

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Ginofan
10-08-2008, 08:36 AM
I don't think it was a HUGE deal, but with these types of things you need to be VERY precise with what you say, every single word is going to be analyzed...he should know that. McCain didn't even stumble over those words, that was what he intended to say. It just sounded out of place, and he could have picked several different ways of addressing his opponent but yet he chose this way...weird.

byrontx
10-08-2008, 09:01 AM
The handshake is very bothersome. Obama has not indulged in the type of personal attacks that would prompt a sign of animosity like that. McCain is acting small.

boutons_
10-08-2008, 09:07 AM
"McCain is acting small."

WRONG!

Mc5ft9in IS small (and hung up about it.) :lol

hater
10-08-2008, 09:17 AM
I heard that and I thought he meant to say, "that ######"

DarrinS
10-08-2008, 09:50 AM
This thread is laughable.


Global economy is in a tailspin, but God Damnit, McCain called my Savior "that one" and didn't shake his hand. WAAAAA!

clambake
10-08-2008, 09:53 AM
put yourself in mccains shoes.

think of the times he grew up in.

he can't understand why this is even close.

he can't understand why he has to go out with a black man on top.

cool hand
10-08-2008, 10:14 AM
that was disrespectful?.......how about all those millions of people that actually make their monthly mortgage payments?

Crookshanks
10-08-2008, 10:46 AM
This is all such a joke. With everything bad this is happening in our country and you guys want to pounce on an innocent remark? Get over it! If that's what you stupid libs want to take out of this debate - then you're in real trouble.

Obama doesn't deserve respect - he's a dishonorable man.

cool hand
10-08-2008, 10:51 AM
^and you are a hypnotizied man......I bet you would suck sean hannity's dick if he let you.

Anti.Hero
10-08-2008, 11:55 AM
Such thin skin the libs have.


That's nothing new though.

SimonHymen
10-08-2008, 12:03 PM
Obama deserves better. He bled for those earmarks.

Cry Havoc
10-08-2008, 12:18 PM
This thread is laughable.


Global economy is in a tailspin, but God Damnit, McCain called my Savior "that one" and didn't shake his hand. WAAAAA!

That's entirely the point.

This country is in the worst financial crisis it's been in since our grandparents were wee ones. The housing market is shot, the dollar is losing value, and people are scared about their retirement, their children's future... etc.

All this is going on, and McCain (who proclaims himself as a patriot who reaches across the aisle at every opportunity) cannot even pay respect to his fellow candidate. This SHOULD be the time when politicians are willing to set aside their personal qualms for the good of the nation.

Coming from a candidate who is so braggadocios about his ability to work with everyone, who throws it in the face of the public about how much of a leader is, this seems more than just a couple of words and disrespect. It's a hint at McCain's character.

Let me put it to you this way, those of you who are parents: Would you let your child refer to you as "that one"? And if they did so with a point of their finger, would you immediately see it a sign of anything but disrespect?

Yes, it's petty. That's what's sad about the situation. The nation is in crisis and McCain doesn't have enough decency to view Obama as anything but a bug to be stomped on.

baseline bum
10-08-2008, 12:24 PM
LMAO @ all the people who crucified Obama (after all, he is the messiah to you right wingers) for the lipstick on a pig remark getting defensive now when McCain clearly disrespects Obama.

JoeChalupa
10-08-2008, 12:29 PM
This is all such a joke. With everything bad this is happening in our country and you guys want to pounce on an innocent remark? Get over it! If that's what you stupid libs want to take out of this debate - then you're in real trouble.

Obama doesn't deserve respect - he's a dishonorable man.

And you cons want to talk about a guy's middle name? :lmao

timvp
10-08-2008, 12:44 PM
I need a violin just to read this thread.

ratm1221
10-08-2008, 12:45 PM
I think is just shows that McCain doesn't mean what he says. He talks about bipartisanship and reaching across the isle and putting politics aside, blah, blah, blah....

And what does he do right after he says all this? He refuses to shake his opponents hand. Pitiful.

nkdlunch
10-08-2008, 01:10 PM
in the next debate he is going to unleash the "white power!"

Shastafarian
10-08-2008, 01:12 PM
LMAO @ all the people who crucified Obama (after all, he is the messiah to you right wingers) for the lipstick on a pig remark getting defensive now when McCain clearly disrespects Obama.

Well that was different obviously. Obama was making fun of their messiah.

Cry Havoc
10-08-2008, 01:17 PM
I need a violin just to read this thread.

There's a difference between calling a candidate out for his behavior and whining about it. If someone punches you in the face for no reason, I'm not going to whine about it, but it still makes that other person a huge prick.

MannyIsGod
10-08-2008, 01:22 PM
This thread is laughable.


Global economy is in a tailspin, but God Damnit, McCain called my Savior "that one" and didn't shake his hand. WAAAAA!

The global economy will still be in a tailspin regardless of any threads on Spurstalk but nice red herring.

DarrinS
10-08-2008, 01:33 PM
" Don't cry for me I'm Obama !!! "


http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2258/2325343913_5fd03b91e2.jpg

ChumpDumper
10-08-2008, 01:34 PM
Thank goodness DarrinS is sticking to the real issues.

DarrinS
10-08-2008, 01:38 PM
Thank goodness DarrinS is sticking to the real issues.


WTF am I supposed to do. We have a crotchety old man and a mental midget as our ticket. At least you guys have a guy that can put a cogent sentence together. The other guy is just a sleezeball from Stranton.


On Nov. 2008, we will become the People's Republic of America. God help us.

MannyIsGod
10-08-2008, 01:39 PM
WTF am I supposed to do. We have a crotchety old man and a mental midget as our ticket. At least you guys have a guy that can put a cogent sentence together. The other guy is just a sleezeball from Stranton.


On Nov. 2008, we will become the People's Republic of America. God help us.

:lmao

Yeah, Obama was the one trying to buy everyone a house last night.

Fucking socialist.

DarrinS
10-08-2008, 01:42 PM
:lmao

Yeah, Obama was the one trying to buy everyone a house last night.

Fucking socialist.


Actually, he wants to help people refinance their homes at their current value. Nice try though. By the way, last night was the first time I'd heard that from him.


Both guys are pretty much for corporate welfare and both are global warming catastrophist, so fuck it.

MannyIsGod
10-08-2008, 01:48 PM
Actually, he wants to help people refinance their homes at their current value. Nice try though. By the way, last night was the first time I'd heard that from him.


Both guys are pretty much for corporate welfare and both are global warming catastrophist, so fuck it.

I just think its funny that Obama gets painted as the socialist and McCain hammers him as "the most liberal senator" and then goes and proposes that?

Darrin I think you and I see more eye to eye than you think. I'm not comfrotable with what Barack says his plans for the economy are, but I dont' believe he'll be able to make them happen nor am I convinced he'll want them to happen.

I've seen that Obama always surrounds himself with smart people, and I think those people are telling him that he needs to say these things to get elected and they're right. Obama is playing to get elected right now, and nothing else really matters because if he doesn't get elected he can't make anything happen.

But once in office, I'm sure he'd surround himself with the smartest economic minds. And I don't care what you say about Bush, his biggest flaw was the way he built his administration and how he didn't get the smartest people around him. I mean Harriet Myers? Really?

Anyway, I'm basically saying that I'm confident in Obama's ability to have intelligence surround him and help him a long the way. Even if I don't believe in what Obama says right now, I believe in his ability to get excellent advice and make excellent decisions and thats something we're severely lacking in the White House right now.

DarrinS
10-08-2008, 02:01 PM
I just think its funny that Obama gets painted as the socialist and McCain hammers him as "the most liberal senator" and then goes and proposes that?

Darrin I think you and I see more eye to eye than you think. I'm not comfrotable with what Barack says his plans for the economy are, but I dont' believe he'll be able to make them happen nor am I convinced he'll want them to happen.

I've seen that Obama always surrounds himself with smart people, and I think those people are telling him that he needs to say these things to get elected and they're right. Obama is playing to get elected right now, and nothing else really matters because if he doesn't get elected he can't make anything happen.

But once in office, I'm sure he'd surround himself with the smartest economic minds. And I don't care what you say about Bush, his biggest flaw was the way he built his administration and how he didn't get the smartest people around him. I mean Harriet Myers? Really?

Anyway, I'm basically saying that I'm confident in Obama's ability to have intelligence surround him and help him a long the way. Even if I don't believe in what Obama says right now, I believe in his ability to get excellent advice and make excellent decisions and thats something we're severely lacking in the White House right now.



What are you talking about? Bush hired only the very best and brightest. That FEMA dude was awesome. Just kidding.

Actually, I don't fear an Obama presidency. How can anyone screw things up any more than they're already screwed up.

I would prefer that an Obama presidency be balanced with a GOP congress. You have to admit, the current group of dem slugs (Pelosi, Reid, Barney Frank, etc.) aren't the greatest.

Cry Havoc
10-08-2008, 02:03 PM
I just think its funny that Obama gets painted as the socialist and McCain hammers him as "the most liberal senator" and then goes and proposes that?

Darrin I think you and I see more eye to eye than you think. I'm not comfrotable with what Barack says his plans for the economy are, but I dont' believe he'll be able to make them happen nor am I convinced he'll want them to happen.

I've seen that Obama always surrounds himself with smart people, and I think those people are telling him that he needs to say these things to get elected and they're right. Obama is playing to get elected right now, and nothing else really matters because if he doesn't get elected he can't make anything happen.

But once in office, I'm sure he'd surround himself with the smartest economic minds. And I don't care what you say about Bush, his biggest flaw was the way he built his administration and how he didn't get the smartest people around him. I mean Harriet Myers? Really?

Anyway, I'm basically saying that I'm confident in Obama's ability to have intelligence surround him and help him a long the way. Even if I don't believe in what Obama says right now, I believe in his ability to get excellent advice and make excellent decisions and thats something we're severely lacking in the White House right now.

+1 to this entirely annular post. ;)

MannyIsGod
10-08-2008, 02:36 PM
What are you talking about? Bush hired only the very best and brightest. That FEMA dude was awesome. Just kidding.

Actually, I don't fear an Obama presidency. How can anyone screw things up any more than they're already screwed up.

I would prefer that an Obama presidency be balanced with a GOP congress. You have to admit, the current group of dem slugs (Pelosi, Reid, Barney Frank, etc.) aren't the greatest.

I agree with this if we would get more GOP in there like the House GOP. And that may happen in 2 or four years kind of like in 1994. I think Bush's 8 years are going to usher in a lot of eventual change in our government.

MannyIsGod
10-08-2008, 02:37 PM
+1 to this entirely annular post. ;)

lol

timvp
10-08-2008, 02:46 PM
I just think its funny that Obama gets painted as the socialist and McCain hammers him as "the most liberal senator" and then goes and proposes that?

Darrin I think you and I see more eye to eye than you think. I'm not comfrotable with what Barack says his plans for the economy are, but I dont' believe he'll be able to make them happen nor am I convinced he'll want them to happen.

I've seen that Obama always surrounds himself with smart people, and I think those people are telling him that he needs to say these things to get elected and they're right. Obama is playing to get elected right now, and nothing else really matters because if he doesn't get elected he can't make anything happen.

But once in office, I'm sure he'd surround himself with the smartest economic minds. And I don't care what you say about Bush, his biggest flaw was the way he built his administration and how he didn't get the smartest people around him. I mean Harriet Myers? Really?

Anyway, I'm basically saying that I'm confident in Obama's ability to have intelligence surround him and help him a long the way. Even if I don't believe in what Obama says right now, I believe in his ability to get excellent advice and make excellent decisions and thats something we're severely lacking in the White House right now.Good post. That's basically where I am regarding Obama. He's full of BS a lot of the time ... but I'm confident either he knows that or the current financial restraints won't all him to proceed.

If I actually thought Obama was going to implement everything he talked about, I'd have to vote for McCain :vomit: