View Full Version : If Obama is President, how realistic would an assasination attempt be?
TheMadHatter
10-10-2008, 08:06 PM
This was brought up on another forum I frequent. I never really thought about it until today. I just don't see it happening in our country today, not unless Obama becomes a very decisive and polarizing President which I don't think he will be.
PixelPusher
10-10-2008, 08:21 PM
This was brought up on another forum I frequent. I never really thought about it until today. I just don't see it happening in our country today, not unless Obama becomes a very decisive and polarizing President which I don't think he will be.
It really doesn't matter who is President, or how "polarizing" he is; all it takes is one kook. Hell, even Gerry Ford lived through an assassination attempt.
ChumpDumper
10-10-2008, 08:23 PM
All it takes is one lone nut, and there is never a shortage of those in the US.
greenroom
10-10-2008, 08:24 PM
Well with McCain saying he is a terrisist I think it makes it a tad bit more of a chance.
Bartleby
10-10-2008, 08:28 PM
It really doesn't matter who is President, or how "polarizing" he is; all it takes is one kook. Hell, even Gerry Ford lived through an assassination attempt.
As did Reagan.
Xylus
10-10-2008, 08:31 PM
I didn't think there was any greater chance of Obama getting assassinated than any former President. That is, until I watched those videos of McCain supporters calling the guy a terrorist, an Arab (like it's a bad thing), a Muslim, and that he should be killed. That's some scary shit.
ballhog
10-10-2008, 08:34 PM
Why can't we all just get along.
http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/2292/sdale6.gif
Findog
10-10-2008, 08:37 PM
Let's not even contemplate this.
Anti.Hero
10-10-2008, 08:39 PM
Well with McCain saying he is a terrisist I think it makes it a tad bit more of a chance.
a what?
MannyIsGod
10-10-2008, 08:53 PM
terraist.
whottt
10-11-2008, 12:36 AM
:lmao with Joe Biden as his VP?
Get fucking serious. Pretty sure that's why Obama picked him. If he'd picked anyone else he'd have a very good chance at a bullet between the eyes, but not with Biden. Biden's worse you see.
Like Ann Coulter said...the Biden pick was insurance against being assasinated...that's why he picked him.
That Obama is a socialist is reasonable speculation but still speculation...that Biden is one isn't.
SnakeBoy
10-11-2008, 12:43 AM
I just don't see it happening in our country today,
How old are you? Seriously.
ElNono
10-11-2008, 12:46 AM
:lmao with Joe Biden as his VP?
Get fucking serious. Pretty sure that's why Obama picked him. If he'd picked anyone else he'd have a very good chance at a bullet between the eyes, but not with Biden. Biden's worse you see.
Like Ann Coulter said...the Biden pick was insurance against being assasinated...that's why he picked him.
That Obama is a socialist is reasonable speculation but still speculation...that Biden is one isn't.
I thought you were going to say that this thread is irrelevant, with McCain winning in a landslide and what not...
:lmao
shelshor
10-11-2008, 01:09 AM
:lmao with Joe Biden as his VP?
Get fucking serious. Pretty sure that's why Obama picked him. If he'd picked anyone else he'd have a very good chance at a bullet between the eyes, but not with Biden. Biden's worse you see.
Like Ann Coulter said...the Biden pick was insurance against being assasinated...that's why he picked him.
That Obama is a socialist is reasonable speculation but still speculation...that Biden is one isn't.
Except that Tricky Dick Noxi-er-Nixon already tried that gambit: the urban legend {well before any of us had ever heard the term "urban legend"} of the time said that Gerald Ford was his insurance against impeachment
Aggie Hoopsfan
10-11-2008, 01:17 AM
If it was going to happen it would have when he was running heads up against Team Clinton.
whottt
10-11-2008, 01:23 AM
If it was going to happen it would have when he was running heads up against Team Clinton.
I mean there's always a chance that some guy will attempt it...that's the case for any President though.
As for hate mongering..get serious, no President in history has ever been hated mongered more against than W was.
tomtom
10-11-2008, 01:45 AM
I didn't think there was any greater chance of Obama getting assassinated than any former President. That is, until I watched those videos of McCain supporters calling the guy a terrorist, an Arab (like it's a bad thing), a Muslim, and that he should be killed. That's some scary shit.
seriously i cannot believe how much bigotry is left in the US. Those videos were definitely chilling
shelshor
10-11-2008, 04:09 AM
If it was going to happen it would have when he was running heads up against Team Clinton.
Or if Hillary were Odumba's VP candidate and they got elected--I figure about March...
TDMVPDPOY
10-11-2008, 06:40 AM
impossible
baraka obama
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v235/idolon/barakaobama.jpg
boutons_
10-11-2008, 10:24 AM
"When I heard someone in a Palin crowd yell out "traitor" as the candidate lashed out at the Democratic nominee, I thought of the full-page ad that appeared in a Dallas newspaper on the morning of Nov. 22, 1963. The headline--"Wanted for Treason"-- was sprawled across a poster-sized photo of President John F. Kennedy."
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/bob-shrum/time-to-ask-mccain-have-y_b_133814.html?view=print
Lee Harvey Oswald probably didn't pay for that ad, did he?
America's cowboy, gun-loving, kill-loving culture is fully capable of murdering HUSSEIN, and the Repugs and their inflammatory, radicalizing, lie-saturated, and hate-saturated politicking will be 100% culpable.
TheProfessor
10-11-2008, 10:55 AM
impossible
baraka obama
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v235/idolon/barakaobama.jpg
:lmao
I actually think the possibility is terrifyingly real and have for some time. And the political repercussions are equally frightening. That's why Hillary's comments about RFK being assassinated struck such a chord with Obama supporters, and why Palin's recent comments have likewise riled them up. It all stokes the fire for some nutjob to take things into his own hands, and many (African-Americans especially) have feared that from the beginning.
Anti.Hero
10-11-2008, 11:09 AM
"When I heard someone in a Palin crowd yell out "traitor" as the candidate lashed out at the Democratic nominee, I thought of the full-page ad that appeared in a Dallas newspaper on the morning of Nov. 22, 1963. The headline--"Wanted for Treason"-- was sprawled across a poster-sized photo of President John F. Kennedy."
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/bob-shrum/time-to-ask-mccain-have-y_b_133814.html?view=print
Lee Harvey Oswald probably didn't pay for that ad, did he?
America's cowboy, gun-loving, kill-loving culture is fully capable of murdering HUSSEIN, and the Repugs and their inflammatory, radicalizing, lie-saturated, and hate-saturated politicking will be 100% culpable.
So much hate for the right. Where/why did you develop this?
Anti.Hero
10-11-2008, 11:11 AM
Also, saying "they cling to their guns and religion"...he's pretty much instigating an assassination attempt with that dumbass remark.
ducks
10-11-2008, 11:12 AM
This was brought up on another forum I frequent. I never really thought about it until today. I just don't see it happening in our country today, not unless Obama becomes a very decisive and polarizing President which I don't think he will be.
i think he would be dead withing 7 months
he is a muslim and he said he is not
they hate that
TheProfessor
10-11-2008, 11:16 AM
Also, saying "they cling to their guns and religion"...he's pretty much instigating an assassination attempt with that dumbass remark.
So in the end we can say it's his fault. Classy.
Anti.Hero
10-11-2008, 11:17 AM
Yes, that's what I said.
TheProfessor
10-11-2008, 11:21 AM
Yes, that's what I said.
I know. And that's why you're such a classy individual.
Anti.Hero
10-11-2008, 11:22 AM
I am a very classy individual.
boutons_
10-11-2008, 11:30 AM
"Where/why did you develop this"
can you read: "inflammatory, radicalizing, lie-saturated, and hate-saturated politicking"
What's to love about right-wing hate-radio and hate-TV?
What's to love about Repugs fucking up federal govt for 8 years?
What's to love about Repugs scaring and lying the USA into invading a threat-less foreign country they did not attack USA? 4100+ US military lives totally wasted
Love the Repugs all you want, but even the Repugs, the neo-c*nts, the Friedman conservatives, are admitting they have totally fucked up in these past decades, and esp in the past 8 years.
What's to love about McNasty's lying, inflammatory, radicalizing, sliming, failing campaign?
Hate? Nothing wrong with hating the profoundly evil, the profoundly untrue, the profoundly destructive.
As George Carlin said, "maybe there's something else (besides the politicians) that sucks around here". It's the fucktards of the public who voted the Repugs into office, and intend now re-vote the Repugs back into office.
Bartleby
10-11-2008, 11:40 AM
he is a muslim and he said he is not
And you know that he is a Muslim because . . .
Yeah, that's what I thought.
ducks
10-11-2008, 11:42 AM
And you know that he is a Muslim because . . .
Yeah, that's what I thought.
prove to me he is not
I know people who work with muslims and they said he is
ChumpDumper
10-11-2008, 11:49 AM
:lol @ ducks.
Prove to me you aren't a Muslim sleeper agent.
Bartleby
10-11-2008, 11:51 AM
prove to me he is not
I know people who work with muslims and they said he is
The burden of proof is on you since you're the one making the claim. I can't prove what he actually believes--he may be a Buddhist or an atheist for all we know--but I'm not the one saying that he is a Muslim. If he says he is a Christian, that works for me (not that I really give a damn what religion he is).
I know people who work with muslims and they said he is
:lmao
You should get your people to get in touch with McCain's people.
FromWayDowntown
10-11-2008, 11:55 AM
For what it's worth, I know people who work with muslims and they said that ducks is a Muslim sleeper agent.
Even if ducks claims that he isn't, I won't believe him.
Shastafarian
10-11-2008, 12:03 PM
I know people who work with mentally challenged people. They apparently don't say much but they did send out a memo entitled "Ducks is a Moron and Other Musings".
Creepn
10-11-2008, 03:05 PM
I can say this though, if Obama gets assasinated, it will forever ever ever ever dampen the image of the white man. This will be used to throw in the face of white men in general to convince others that they are full of hate and racism and will never change.
I can see it already, a white guy saying, "What?? I'm not a freakin racist! I voted for Barack Obama and detest the ones that assasinated him!" to defend themselves.
Aggie Hoopsfan
10-11-2008, 05:25 PM
"Where/why did you develop this"
can you read: "inflammatory, radicalizing, lie-saturated, and hate-saturated politicking"
What's to love about right-wing hate-radio and hate-TV?
Like you watch or read right wing radio, TV. :lol
What's to love about Repugs fucking up federal govt for 8 years?
Silly lib, doesn't even understand how Congress works.
What's to love about Repugs scaring and lying the USA into invading a threat-less foreign country they did not attack USA? 4100+ US military lives totally wasted
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Ugh, there wasn't any lying. Every intelligence branch in the world thought Iraq had WMD. Stupid Repubs, what the fuck was Bush doing listening to the CIA, NSA, Mossad, SIS, MI6, FSB, etc? :rolleyes
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Love the Repugs all you want, but even the Repugs, the neo-c*nts, the Friedman conservatives, are admitting they have totally fucked up in these past decades, and esp in the past 8 years.
Dems have been in power for two years now in Congress. You liberals really are some short-sighted fuckups, you know that?
What's to love about McNasty's lying, inflammatory, radicalizing, sliming, failing campaign?
It's just as 'loving' as Obama and Biden's lying, inflammatory, radicalizing, sliming, campaign, but it's the one you support so that's okay.
Hate? Nothing wrong with hating the profoundly evil, the profoundly untrue, the profoundly destructive.
If you really think the Republican party is profoundly evil, you're going to get your ass handed to you in the real world. Mommy won't be able to save your ass.
As George Carlin said, "maybe there's something else (besides the politicians) that sucks around here". It's the fucktards of the public who voted the Repugs into office, and intend now re-vote the Repugs back into office.
Carlin was talking about both Republicans and Democrats, you dumb shit.
The only fucktards are people like you who think it matters which party is in power. Neither one of them represents the common American. All that's going to change with Obama is whose pockets are getting lined with the money of taxpayers in this country.
Shastafarian
10-11-2008, 05:28 PM
Ugh, there wasn't any lying. Every intelligence branch in the world thought Iraq had WMD. Stupid Repubs, what the fuck was Bush doing listening to the CIA, NSA, Mossad, SIS, MI6, FSB, etc? :rolleyes
Um...no. Can you supply any proof that any of those agencies thought the intelligence was actionable?
Wild Cobra
10-11-2008, 06:19 PM
Well, in the last 50 or so years, all assassination attempts and assassinations were carried out by leftists. I'd say the chances are larger for McCain to be assassinated if elected rather than Obama. However, I don't know how to put in the left leaning racists into the equation. I only know it is unlikely a right leaning person will attempt an assassination. More criminal activity of most or all types are committed by lefties over righties.
Oh yea, I forgot about the attempts against Clinton and Carter. They are assumed attempts, not well proven.
Bartleby
10-11-2008, 06:26 PM
What makes John Hinckley, Jr. (whose parents have ties to the Bush family) a leftist?
Shastafarian
10-11-2008, 06:34 PM
What makes John Hinckley, Jr. (whose parents have ties to the Bush family) a leftist?
He shot Reagan. He must have been a libtard.
Kamnik
10-11-2008, 06:38 PM
Bush had 10x more mortal enemies around the world who would do anything to kill him than Obama could gather 10 years.
Meaning if Bush wasnt assasinated neither will Obama be... Since Kenedy assasination American presidents are the most guarded people in the world.
And some racist redneck couldnt even come near him. So race does not play afactor here imo.
Wild Cobra
10-11-2008, 06:44 PM
What makes John Hinckley, Jr. (whose parents have ties to the Bush family) a leftist?
He had a mental problem. I guess I should have excluded such an idiot. mY BAD.
I thought associations don't matter with you liberals?
spursfan09
10-11-2008, 07:55 PM
a what?
a terror cyst?
DarrinS
10-11-2008, 08:36 PM
:lmao with Joe Biden as his VP?
Get fucking serious. Pretty sure that's why Obama picked him. If he'd picked anyone else he'd have a very good chance at a bullet between the eyes, but not with Biden. Biden's worse you see.
Like Ann Coulter said...the Biden pick was insurance against being assasinated...that's why he picked him.
That Obama is a socialist is reasonable speculation but still speculation...that Biden is one isn't.
Very true.
rascal
10-11-2008, 10:31 PM
Its a real possibility because there are still many bigots in this country that will be opposed to having a black president. And still others who are ignorant enough to believe Obama is a Muslim terrorist.
Obama may also have an overall appeal similar to Robert and John F Kennedy and that can play into fueling intense anger in some.
Being a bad and unpopular president has nothing to do with being assassinated, Bush is an example of that.
Wild Cobra
10-11-2008, 11:07 PM
Obama may also have an overall appeal similar to Robert and John F Kennedy and that can play into fueling intense anger in some.
OMG...
How can anyone consider Obama anywhere near the man as JFK?
Unbelievable.
baseline bum
10-11-2008, 11:24 PM
Bush had 10x more mortal enemies around the world who would do anything to kill him than Obama could gather 10 years.
Meaning if Bush wasnt assasinated neither will Obama be... Since Kenedy assasination American presidents are the most guarded people in the world.
And some racist redneck couldnt even come near him. So race does not play afactor here imo.
I don't buy that. Human life is pretty fragile and all it takes is one motivated person to end it. Reagan was almost killed by a lone nut, not some great conspiracy.
spurs1990
10-11-2008, 11:50 PM
McCain and Barack may have equal chances of not finishing their terms for health issues, sadly.
I'd like to see a Obama/Palin ticket...bring this country together like a mug.
Kamnik
10-12-2008, 06:33 AM
I don't buy that. Human life is pretty fragile and all it takes is one motivated person to end it. Reagan was almost killed by a lone nut, not some great conspiracy.
American president always was and always will be a popular assasination target no matter who he is.
But the level of security nowadays is so high that it is close to impossible to do it.
And even if it succeds.... what do you achieve by it? Almost nothing because u have a VP behind him and others who could stand in that have practicaly the same policy.
boutons_
10-12-2008, 08:34 AM
This kind of sentiment exists in millions of wonderully educated, civil, classy Americans.
http://cmsimg.news-leader.com/apps/pbcsi.dll/bilde?Site=DO&Date=20081010&Category=NEWS06&ArtNo=810100354&Ref=AR&Profile=1015&MaxW=550&MaxH=650&title=0
http://current.com/items/89393772_racist_obama_billboard_causes_outrage?xid =216
Shelly
10-12-2008, 09:46 AM
I don't buy that. Human life is pretty fragile and all it takes is one motivated person to end it. Reagan was almost killed by a lone nut, not some great conspiracy.
Didn't Hinckley try to kill Reagan to get Jodie Foster's attention?
smeagol
10-12-2008, 10:02 AM
i think he would be dead withing 7 months
he is a muslim and he said he is not
they hate that
Oh boy . . .
Your takes here are even more stupid than the ones in the Spurs Forum.
xtremesteven33
10-12-2008, 12:30 PM
Muslim extremists will kill Obama for denying Islam and claiming Christianity as his belief when he knows its not true.
In the Koran it is said to kill off former muslims who turn over to another belief. Im not saying that Obama is a CURRENT Muslim but it would you would have to be ignorant to say he has NEVER been one before.
Although it wouldnt surprise me if he still is due to pictures that are out and his own words that he said in a recent interview. He said in a weird way, "My muslim Faith"
check it out:
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ElNono
10-12-2008, 12:42 PM
Muslim extremists will kill Obama for denying Islam and claiming Christianity as his belief when he knows its not true.
In the Koran it is said to kill off former muslims who turn over to another belief. Im not saying that Obama is a CURRENT Muslim but it would you would have to be ignorant to say he has NEVER been one before.
Although it wouldnt surprise me if he still is due to pictures that are out and his own words that he said in a recent interview. He said in a weird way, "My muslim Faith"
I know it really ticks you that Obama is a Christian.
This video has been discussed before in these forums. Watch the entire version of it.
xtremesteven33
10-12-2008, 12:44 PM
I know it really ticks you that Obama is a Christian.
This video has been discussed before in these forums. Watch the entire version of it.
Im actually a Christian.
It wouldnt tick me if anybody was a Christian. I wouldnt hate someone if they were Muslim either. Its the fact that he has lied about his past muslim faith and continues to deny it.
It just might come back to haunt him.
ChumpDumper
10-12-2008, 12:46 PM
What is your evidence he has been a Muslim?
Clandestino
10-12-2008, 12:55 PM
obama is a terrorist sleeper.
ElNono
10-12-2008, 12:55 PM
Im actually a Christian.
It wouldnt tick me if anybody was a Christian. I wouldnt hate someone if they were Muslim either. Its the fact that he has lied about his past muslim faith and continues to deny it.
It just might come back to haunt him.
Evidence please.
jochhejaam
10-12-2008, 01:23 PM
The precautions taken to ensure the safety of the President are extraordinary, so it's highly unlikely.
God forbid that it should happen, but if it did (assuming the culprit wasn't Jesse Jackson), there would be widespread rioting/arson/looting/beatings, National Guard called in, maybe the implementation Martial Law.
Pray that it does not happen.
ChumpDumper
10-12-2008, 01:24 PM
Why do you think there would be rioting?
Bartleby
10-12-2008, 01:27 PM
Its the fact that he has lied about his past muslim faith and continues to deny it.
Let me guess, you work with people who are Muslim and they say that Obama is one, too, right?
jochhejaam
10-12-2008, 01:36 PM
Why do you think there would be rioting?
IMO it would inflame the passions of African Americans on a National level in a way the Rodney King verdict impassioned them in LA.
It's all purely conjecture, so I'm not gonna devote too much time to that scenario.
ChumpDumper
10-12-2008, 01:39 PM
You just stated it so plainly like you knew it would happen.
jochhejaam
10-12-2008, 02:01 PM
You just stated it so plainly like you knew it would happen.
I didn't realize my opinions carried that much weight with you. In the future, unless otherwise stated, you may assume that my opinion is merely my opinion.
ChumpDumper
10-12-2008, 02:05 PM
They don't carry any weight with me. It's just fun seeing you backtrack. In the future, unless otherwise stated, you may assume that I think you're an idiot.
whottt
10-12-2008, 03:57 PM
What is your evidence he has been a Muslim?
The fact that he had two fathers that were Muslim...in Muslim Marriages the child takes the Father's religion if the Father is Muslim. Always.
I know Obama's mother was a staunch Christian that would have demanded her child be raised Christian, as evidenced by the fact that she married not 1 but 2 Muslims...but that is the rule of Islam regardless of what she wanted.
mookie2001
10-12-2008, 04:06 PM
rofl did ducks say obama is muslim?
i got that email too
whottt
10-12-2008, 04:06 PM
Muslim extremists will kill Obama for denying Islam and claiming Christianity as his belief when he knows its not true.
iQqIpdBOg6I
Not entirely true...in Islam it's okay to lie about being a Muslim as long you are lying to infidels. It's okay to lie to infidels about anything in Islam. It's if you truly convert or lie to another Muslim that you are guilty of apostasy....Obama can lie to Christians all day long about being a Christian, that won't get the Muslim extremists after him.
mookie2001
10-12-2008, 04:08 PM
whottt i dont think obamas muslim, if he was then it would be the same chance as some other chode faking not being muslim for his whole life
Shastafarian
10-12-2008, 04:33 PM
The fact that he had two fathers that were Muslim...in Muslim Marriages the child takes the Father's religion if the Father is Muslim. Always.
I know Obama's mother was a staunch Christian that would have demanded her child be raised Christian, as evidenced by the fact that she married not 1 but 2 Muslims...but that is the rule of Islam regardless of what she wanted.
Not entirely true...in Islam it's okay to lie about being a Muslim as long you are lying to infidels. It's okay to lie to infidels about anything in Islam. It's if you truly convert or lie to another Muslim that you are guilty of apostasy....Obama can lie to Christians all day long about being a Christian, that won't get the Muslim extremists after him.
So how many times have you read the Qur'an?
xtremesteven33
10-12-2008, 04:33 PM
its funny how people time after time believe whatever the politician says...haha
Shastafarian
10-12-2008, 04:35 PM
its funny how people time after time believe whatever the politician says...haha
its funny how people time after time believe whatever their biased sources say...haha
ChumpDumper
10-12-2008, 04:40 PM
The fact that he had two fathers that were Muslim...in Muslim Marriages the child takes the Father's religion if the Father is Muslim. Always.
I know Obama's mother was a staunch Christian that would have demanded her child be raised Christian, as evidenced by the fact that she married not 1 but 2 Muslims...but that is the rule of Islam regardless of what she wanted.So whottt believes in the strict interpretation of the tenets of Islam.
whottt is an Islamic fundamentalist.
xrayzebra
10-12-2008, 04:55 PM
The precautions taken to ensure the safety of the President are extraordinary, so it's highly unlikely.
God forbid that it should happen, but if it did (assuming the culprit wasn't Jesse Jackson), there would be widespread rioting/arson/looting/beatings, National Guard called in, maybe the implementation Martial Law.
Pray that it does not happen.
I am with you, pray that it does not happen. We don't need another
martyr. Especially him.
And I agree rioting would go on for days.
Shastafarian
10-12-2008, 05:41 PM
I am with you, pray that it does not happen. We don't need another
martyr. Especially him.
You stay classy
ElNono
10-12-2008, 05:50 PM
its funny how people time after time believe whatever the politician says...haha
That means you can't back up you what you stated as fact? Thanks.
ElNono
10-12-2008, 05:56 PM
The fact that he had two fathers that were Muslim...in Muslim Marriages the child takes the Father's religion if the Father is Muslim. Always.
I know Obama's mother was a staunch Christian that would have demanded her child be raised Christian, as evidenced by the fact that she married not 1 but 2 Muslims...but that is the rule of Islam regardless of what she wanted.
Evidence that her marriages were Muslim, and not Christian?
Extra Stout
10-13-2008, 09:00 AM
Why do you think there would be rioting?
There was rioting in 1968 when RFK and MLK were assassinated. This would be an even greater greivance, and I do not think that Americans are less disposed to violence now than they were then.
And I sense that there has been sort of an unspoken assumption between red and blue America that neither will be the first one to go outside the political system to resolve disputes, since to do so would cede some kind of moral high ground, but that once one side does, the other will respond in kind.
So I guess what I'm saying is that it wouldn't just be another 1968; it would be somewhere between 1968 and, say, a national Bleeding Kansas.
George Gervin's Afro
10-13-2008, 09:07 AM
My first action would be to review all of the McCain/Palin campaign stop tapes...
Soul_Patch
10-13-2008, 11:54 AM
Jesus H Christ, people in this country are FRIGHTENINGLY dumb. This kind of shit scares me more than living in a country run by terrorists.
These people are everywhere, hell, i bet you at least 1 of the people in these crowds, is a school teacher, spending more time per day with your kid than you are.
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TheMadHatter
10-13-2008, 12:11 PM
There is a clear difference between what is going on in the McCain/Palin rallies than anything that goes on in an Obama rally. What we see in the McCain/Palin rallies brings back frightening images of the Civil Rights era in this country, it's a period of time I wish we never ever go back to.
It's becoming more and more important to me why Obama must win this election. Not only to end the failed Republican policies, but to forcefully reject the tactics of race baiting and polarization that the Right has been using for the last few decades.
whottt
10-13-2008, 12:21 PM
So whottt believes in the strict interpretation of the tenets of Islam.
whottt is an Islamic fundamentalist.
Chump thinks most Muslims are Islamic Fundamentalists :lol
ChumpDumper
10-13-2008, 12:23 PM
Chump thinks most Muslims are Islamic Fundamentalists :lolHey, you're the one who believes that this proves he's a Muslim.
It's your belief.
Your Muslim belief.
whottt
10-13-2008, 12:34 PM
whottt i dont think obamas muslim, if he was then it would be the same chance as some other chode faking not being muslim for his whole life
Well he was most likely born one...or at some point was considered one, unless his fathers didn't give a shit about him.
It's not that he had to be a Muslim by the laws of Islam...even under the most strict inpterpretations. It's that he would be considered somewhat of a lost soul or secondary citizen even under the most liberal interpretations.
It'd be like an atheist allowing his child to be raised as one of those backwards Christians. Yeah it could happen...and yeah the Father would consider him somewhat backwards because of it....under any interpretation of Islam. Even the ones that believe in separation of church and state and espouse secular Democracy.
If his Mom was absolutely admantant about it then sure...since she was a Christian he could have been raised as one if agreed upon by both parties, even under the most strict interpretation, as in even Usama would do this.
...but since his Mom married two Muslims I doubt she had huge issues with Islam...call it a hunch.
Who knows maybe she did raise hell about it and that's why Obama Sr had no problems abandoning his second rate child....when he returned, as he always did, to his first wife, his Muslim Wife.
But then you still have to explain why Sottero adopted him...
whottt
10-13-2008, 12:43 PM
Hey, you're the one who believes that this proves he's a Muslim.
It's your belief.
Your Muslim belief.
It's right there in the Quran, even the "liberal" versions :lol
clambake
10-13-2008, 12:45 PM
Well he was most likely born one...or at some point was considered one, unless his fathers didn't give a shit about him.
Who knows maybe she did raise hell about it and that's why Obama Sr had no problems abandoning his second rate child...
so much for that "elitist" tag.
ChumpDumper
10-13-2008, 12:45 PM
I never took you for a Muslim, whottt -- but the proof is in your beliefs.
ChumpDumper
10-13-2008, 12:48 PM
It's right there in the Quran, even the "liberal" versions :lolYes, but YOU believe it.
It is YOUR Muslim belief.
whottt
10-13-2008, 01:01 PM
I never took you for a Muslim, whottt -- but the proof is in your beliefs.
Is that the best you can do? Call me a Muslim?
:lol
ChumpDumper
10-13-2008, 01:06 PM
Is that the best you can do? Call me a Muslim?
:lolIt's nothing I did. You are the one declaring Muslim beliefs as your own.
ElNono
10-13-2008, 01:07 PM
...but since his Mom married two Muslims I doubt she had huge issues with Islam...call it a hunch.
That's all you've been running on for a while now... "Trust me, I know"(TM)
Shastafarian
10-13-2008, 01:08 PM
I'm still wondering how many times Kevin has actually read the Qur'an.
hater
10-13-2008, 01:08 PM
Obama is in serious danger IF he becomes president.
But more importantly, IF he decides to actually do the things he promised during his campaign... forget about it. then for sure there will be some attempts
at the same time IF he were to get assassinated, all hell will break loose here in the States. riots all over the place.
whottt
10-13-2008, 01:17 PM
It's nothing I did. You are the one declaring Muslim beliefs as your own.
Uh uh...whatever makes you feel like a non-idiot chump :tu
ChumpDumper
10-13-2008, 01:22 PM
Uh uh...whatever makes you feel like a non-idiot chump :tuYou believe that Obama is a Muslim because you believe in the tenets of Islam that would define him as such.
You kicked your own ass once again, whottt.
Your continuing meltdown is getting to be more sad than funny, but it's still pretty funny. :toast
Shastafarian
10-13-2008, 01:25 PM
Uh uh...whatever makes you feel like a non-idiot chump :tu
Says the person who declared New York would be in play, McCain would win in a landslide, that he knew more about the situation between Israel and Palestinians than a person who fought in the Israeli Army...damn there's just too many to keep going.
hater
10-13-2008, 02:38 PM
Is that the best you can do? Call me a Muslim?
:lol
well that is the best Mcain's supporters can do too :lmao
TheMadHatter
10-13-2008, 03:56 PM
There is definitely a lot of pent up anger in the black community over what's been going on these past 8 years, especially with Katrina.
If Obama were to be assassinated, all hell breaking loose would be an understatement.
whottt
10-13-2008, 04:04 PM
You believe that Obama is a Muslim because you believe in the tenets of Islam that would define him as such.
Are you really that fucking stupid?
You kicked your own ass once again, whottt.
No I didn't...you are just doing your stupid bullshit.
Your continuing meltdown is getting to be more sad than funny, but it's still pretty funny. :toast
Who is melting down? You're the one saying Muslims are Islamic Fundamentalists if their child is born a muslim because their father is, and using the term Muslim in mocking fashion.
ElNono
10-13-2008, 04:08 PM
You believe that Obama is a Muslim because you believe in the tenets of Islam that would define him as such.
You kicked your own ass once again, whottt.
Your continuing meltdown is getting to be more sad than funny, but it's still pretty funny. :toast
Did he tell you that story where he once dated a Muslim girl and that's what gives him complete authority to talk about anything Muslim-related?
Shastafarian
10-13-2008, 04:11 PM
Did he tell you that story where he once dated a Muslim girl and that's what gives him complete authority to talk about anything Muslim-related?
The attendant at a mental institution doesn't equal a dating experience.
Bartleby
10-13-2008, 04:19 PM
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ChumpDumper
10-13-2008, 04:37 PM
Are you really that fucking stupid?No, you are. I'm not the one who kicked his own ass.
No I didn't...you are just doing your stupid bullshit. You absolutely did. Your belief that Obama is a Muslim is faith-based.
Your faith.
Your faith in Islamic beliefs.
Who is melting down? You're the one saying Muslims are Islamic Fundamentalists if their child is born a muslim because their father is, and using the term Muslim in mocking fashion.It's true including you in any group is in fact mocking that group, but you have proven you believe in Islam, probably more than Obama ever did.
whottt
10-13-2008, 05:01 PM
No, you are. I'm not the one who kicked his own ass.
You absolutely did. Your belief that Obama is a Muslim is faith-based.
Your faith.
Your faith in Islamic beliefs.
It's true including you in any group is in fact mocking that group, but you have proven you believe in Islam, probably more than Obama ever did.
Pathetic.
ChumpDumper
10-13-2008, 05:07 PM
Pathetic.Yes, your reasoning is pathetic.
You've gotten really sloppy since you fell in love with Palin, but I don't see how your conversion to Islam is going to help you win her.
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