Kori and LJ can you read our PMs?

[mouse]

Apparently they do @ SR I was just wondering if you can read them here also that way I watch what i say about you! :lmao

http://spurscorral.com/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=448

[Kori Ellis]

No, we can't.

We can't see your passwords (they are asterisked out in the admin system), so we can't login to your accounts.

There is probably a crazy way to do it by going through the database or something, but that would be a whole lot of trouble.

[Trainwreck2100]

Maybe somebody narced on that guy

[radicaldreamer]

When they booted most of their MODs I learned they had the ability to read PMs. I can't even give another poster my email address without being a suspect. I mean what if I wanted to talk about something important and not pimp my site via PM. They can't tell the difference.

We have no interest in reading PMs at Spurs Corral, and it appears the admin staff here doesn't either. What motives would we have anyway?

I'm more interested in reading the content you post for everybody to see than what you say behind the scenes.

They are beyond paranoid. Its a very creepy situation.

[mouse]

Well in case you can but can't admit it I didn't mean what I said that one night! :lmao


Why are websites so paranoid about posting links to other forums? How the hell do they think people on the www get around?

Check out the rules at this site.

http://forums.majorgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=162031



Sig-Homepage To be blunt, those of you that have had your business URL removed from your sig and then turn around and put in a line or two of verbiage to entice a user to click on your profile so they can get the link to your business that way...well, it's not funny and will only result in getting you banned. Capiche?

[mouse]

We have no interest in reading PMs at Spurs Corral, and it appears the admin staff here doesn't either. What motives would we have anyway?

I'm more interested in reading the content you post for everybody to see than what you say behind the scenes.



Are you saying you wouldn't one night when your bored take a peeky poo? :smokin

[Slomo]

No, we can't.

We can't see your passwords (they are asterisked out in the admin system), so we can't login to your accounts.

There is probably a crazy way to do it by going through the database or something, but that would be a whole lot of trouble.

Exactly!

VBulletin - the software that ST runs on - is one of the most popular forum software (if no the most popular) and they don't dick around with functions, if for no other reasons than to keep their huge client base.

As Kori already said the function to see your passwords, or read your PMs is just not in the software.

The only way to read somebody else's PM is to go rummage around in the database. That is neither easy nor safe (a wrongly typed command could corrupt the db which would basically mean the destruction of the forum). Passwords are not stored in clear text anywhere (not even in the main user db) so those are just impossible to steal - the only option the admins have is to reset it to a certain value it if you lose it.


And finally Mouse, why would anybody want to read your PMs? You're not that interesting :p: (and you have the annoying habit to publicly post your thoughts anyway :lol)

[ploto]

I know for a fact they read mine at SR.

[TheTruth]

Someone the sent a PM to ratted them out. Happens all the time.

I've been busted for doing that for a Broncos forum I started.

[Das Texan]

i know on ipboard forum software they have a feature allowing you to simply read all PMs.

[velik_m]

The only way to read somebody else's PM is to go rummage around in the database. That is neither easy nor safe (a wrongly typed command could corrupt the db which would basically mean the destruction of the forum).

Bullshit on both accounts. As long as you know the layout of the db it's fairly easy to get the data, and since this is just a forum db it's not that complicated to guess that layout.

As for safe: it depends on permissions. But you would have to pretty creative to mess db with simple select, which is all you need for retrieval. (or you can just use a web interface to db, like phpmyadmin)


Passwords are not stored in clear text anywhere (not even in the main user db) so those are just impossible to steal - the only option the admins have is to reset it to a certain value it if you lose it.

They are probably stored as md5 hash, which is not a really strong encryption, but yeah it's probably easier to just reset them.

[Ricardo Romo]

And finally Mouse, why would anybody want to read your PMs? You're not that interesting :p: (and you have the annoying habit to publicly post your thoughts anyway :lol)


Does mouse really do that shit?

[Slomo]

Bullshit on both accounts. As long as you know the layout of the db it's fairly easy to get the data, and since this is just a forum db it's not that complicated to guess that layout.

As for safe: it depends on permissions. But you would have to pretty creative to mess db with simple select, which is all you need for retrieval. (or you can just use a web interface to db, like phpmyadmin)



They are probably stored as md5 hash, which is not a really strong encryption, but yeah it's probably easier to just reset them.

In order to reconstruct a PM with all its data (from whom, to whom, when....) is not that easy since the information is stored in several tables of a couple of databases (why they did it this way I don't know, there's probably a good reason for it). So it's not just selecting around a mysql table but you would have to put in a lot more effort - which is why I said it was difficult. Unless you go and write a routine that will do that for you, typing commands in a big database (and the ST.com is huge) is always dangerous, regardless of how benign the commands are (I've fucked up enough tables in my career to know how easy it is).

There's also the added difficulty that at this point only 2 people have full access to the database and therefore know the structure of it.

Anyway as I said it is not in the software and the alternative is really not worth the effort.

As for the password you are correct. My point was that it is not stored or displayed in clear text anywhere.

[Obstructed_View]

Apparently they do @ SR I was just wondering if you can read them here also that way I watch what i say about you!

You mean you have opinions that you don't share with the group?

[mouse]

And finally Mouse, why would anybody want to read your PMs?

Ask the NSA they have been monitoring me for years.




You're not that interesting :p:

Oh and I am sure your life is the Cirque du Soleil of the forum. why not enlighten us on what a real entertaining life style you have?





(and you have the annoying habit to publicly post your thoughts anyway :lol)

unlike Tpark that post every time he might have a date? or do you mean like when 1369 finds a quarter inside the dyer? those type of riveting topics?


My topics are informative,entertaining,and 110% better than any shit you find on the www today...................

[Rack The Trolls!]

plus add to the fact mouse does it using over 110 different screen names, a feat no one will ever duplicate in this lifetime.

[mookie2001]

good because thispego is pushing big white through pm

[I am Tom]

Oh and I am sure your life is the Cirque du Soleil of the forum. why not enlighten us on what a real entertaining life style you have?


:lmao


A day in the life of Slomo...............

7:00 am get up feed the cat check the fridge for beer

8:00 am find out what that squeaky sound is coming from the other end of the trailer

9:00 am go to the post office see if your visa came in yet.

9:45 AM go to the near by block buster to see if Zoolander 3 is out yet

10:30 AM hit radio shack and ask your buddy if he has an extra pocket protector you lost yours last night at the VFW club playing bingo with the old war vets.


11:10 AM have lunch alone in the park try and avoid the bag lady that lives there. (she has a crush on you)


11:50 go back to post office check PO box for the Ultra pocket pussy 2000 your ordered on line. (and ask about your visa)


12:15 PM hit the local butcher shop for some haggis and 4lbs of goat cheese for tonight's meal.


12:45 PM go home and check your PMs to see if Kori has problems with the site.

12:46 PM start surfing for porn while you wait for Judge Judy to come on tv.


1:25 PM take a nap


3:01 PM start boiling the lentils and place the goat heads in the oven.

3:17 PM go to the trailer next door to ask the lady with the access hair on her upper lip if she has any garlic.

4:25 PM tell the lady you would love to stay longer and finish playing battle ship but you have to go check on your lentils you left on the stove.


4:30 PM remove the burnt lentils from the stove and order domino's pizza.


5:12 PM PM Kori and ask her if there is anything you can do to the site.

5:15 PM find out where that strange smell is coming from that has been bothering you for the last two weeks.


6:20 PM call your friend Kusov and see if he wants to watch wheel of fortune with you.


7:00 PM take your weekly shower and splash on some aqua velva your going to the Barton's Bar it's karaoke night.


8:07 PM answer the door it's the lady with the mush stash she needs to borrow your plunger.


9:12 PM the bus finally arrives off to Barton's


9:56 PM arrive at the bar and realize you left your wallet at home.


9:59 Spot an old friend from one of your AA meetings and ask to use his ID.

10:35 PM complain to the bartender there is no ABBA or Menudo in the Karaoke play list.

11:56 PM after 5 pints of old flat warm beer you grab the mic and belt out a tune from Rocky III Eye of the tiger so well it makes the waitress pull out her cell phone and record you for youtube.


12:45 AM after 40 minutes of trying to explain to your drinking buddy how you post a picture on the www you decide to go home.

1:24 AM find your plunger and a note saying thank you by the front door,

1:25 AM go inside feed the cat and put Barbarella on the VCR.

1:27 AM start rubbing yourself and fall asleep.


7:00 AM wake up start all over.

[nacho]

1:24 AM find your plunger and a note saying thank you by the front door,
.


Did the note have OOxxOOXoXXx

Hug hug, kiss kiss, hug hug, big kiss, little hug, kiss kiss, little kiss.

[Slomo]

:lmao


A day in the life of Slomo...............

7:00 am get up feed the cat check the fridge for beer

8:00 am find out what that squeaky sound is coming from the other end of the trailer

9:00 am go to the post office see if your visa came in yet.

9:45 AM go to the near by block buster to see if Zoolander 3 is out yet

10:30 AM hit radio shack and ask your buddy if he has an extra pocket protector you lost yours last night at the VFW club playing bingo with the old war vets.


11:10 AM have lunch alone in the park try and avoid the bag lady that lives there. (she has a crush on you)


11:50 go back to post office check PO box for the Ultra pocket pussy 2000 your ordered on line. (and ask about your visa)


12:15 PM hit the local butcher shop for some haggis and 4lbs of goat cheese for tonight's meal.


12:45 PM go home and check your PMs to see if Kori has problems with the site.

12:46 PM start surfing for porn while you wait for Judge Judy to come on tv.


1:25 PM take a nap


3:01 PM start boiling the lentils and place the goat heads in the oven.

3:17 PM go to the trailer next door to ask the lady with the access hair on her upper lip if she has any garlic.

4:25 PM tell the lady you would love to stay longer and finish playing battle ship but you have to go check on your lentils you left on the stove.


4:30 PM remove the burnt lentils from the stove and order domino's pizza.


5:12 PM PM Kori and ask her if there is anything you can do to the site.

5:15 PM find out where that strange smell is coming from that has been bothering you for the last two weeks.


6:20 PM call your friend Kusov and see if he wants to watch wheel of fortune with you.


7:00 PM take your weekly shower and splash on some aqua velva your going to the Barton's Bar it's karaoke night.


8:07 PM answer the door it's the lady with the mush stash she needs to borrow your plunger.


9:12 PM the bus finally arrives off to Barton's


9:56 PM arrive at the bar and realize you left your wallet at home.


9:59 Spot an old friend from one of your AA meetings and ask to use his ID.

10:35 PM complain to the bartender there is no ABBA or Menudo in the Karaoke play list.

11:56 PM after 5 pints of old flat warm beer you grab the mic and belt out a tune from Rocky III Eye of the tiger so well it makes the waitress pull out her cell phone and record you for youtube.


12:45 AM after 40 minutes of trying to explain to your drinking buddy how you post a picture on the www you decide to go home.

1:24 AM find your plunger and a note saying thank you by the front door,

1:25 AM go inside feed the cat and put Barbarella on the VCR.

1:27 AM start rubbing yourself and fall asleep.


7:00 AM wake up start all over.



I don't have a cat.

Ha! Shows what you know.








:lol

[Shelly.]

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:lol