AP poll puts Texas at #1

[j-6]

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/rankings?pollId=1


1. Texas (39) 6-0 1599 5
2. Alabama (26) 6-0 1582 2
3. Penn State 7-0 1492 6
4. Oklahoma 5-1 1306 1
5. Florida 5-1 1284 11
6. USC 4-1 1247 8
7. Texas Tech 6-0 1210 7
8. Oklahoma State 6-0 1184 17
9. Brigham Young 6-0 1131 9
10. Georgia 5-1 1081 10
11. Missouri 5-1 984 3
12. Ohio State 6-1 908 12
13. LSU 4-1 893 4
14. Utah 7-0 834 14
15. Boise State 5-0 714 15
16. Kansas 5-1 620 16
17. Virginia Tech 5-1 540 18
18. North Carolina 5-1 416 22
19. South Florida 5-1 397 19
20. Michigan State 6-1 371 23
21. Wake Forest 4-1 330 21
22. Vanderbilt 5-1 258 13
23. Pittsburgh 4-1 182 24
24. Ball State 7-0 166 25
25. California 4-1 115 NR

Others Receiving Votes
Tulsa 84, TCU 61, Minnesota 48, Florida State 38, Georgia Tech 25, South Carolina 9, Kentucky 7, Oregon 4, Northwestern 3, Notre Dame 1, Cincinnati 1.
Dropped From Rankings
Auburn 20.

[JamStone]

Utah should be in the top 10.

[j-6]

Utah should be in the top 10.

I agree. And Tulsa should be top 20.

[Holmes_Fans]

Texas Tech should be no where near the top 15.

[DMX7]

Notre Dame should be #1. In fact, they're so awesome they should be #0.

[tlongII]

Penn State should be #1.

[Whisky Dog]

Penn St hasn't even played anyone as good as Colorado. They have to play someone first

[tlongII]

They killed Oregon State and the Beavers are good.

[johngateswhiteley]

t.u. is good, and i thought that the ou game could go either way. but #1...i'm not so sure about that.

but, it would be sweet for SC and t.u. to meet...i'd like that.

[stretch]

t.u. is good, and i thought that the ou game could go either way. but #1...i'm not so sure about that.

but, it would be sweet for SC and t.u. to meet...i'd like that.

you are fucking stupid.

[benefactor]

Recognize bustas....

[redraiderinfiji]

Fucking A - Texas #1, I can understand that. But Oklahoma St. jumping 10 spots, well, thats a huge jump. I was really surprised by that.

[scott]

Texas is without a doubt the #1 team in the nation. UT-Bama would be a great game if both teams can stay undefeated. It would be great to see the clash of philosophies between the best two teams of the best two conferences.

[monosylab1k]

Florida at 5 is a joke. The SEC has their cock shoved so deep down the media's throat it's ridiculous.

[IronMexican]

Fucking SC should be #5. LSU was a bit overrated coming into the season, so they should have beat them that bad.

[johngateswhiteley]

you are fucking stupid.

lol, i think SC would stomp t.u...hopefully t.u. makes it that far. i don't see how that makes me anything but a genius.

[cash459]

Texas Tech should be no where near the top 15.

youre an idiot, please stfu :toast

[Brutalis]

If it ended now Bama would kill Texas.

[lebomb]

All yall need to STFU. Noone knows who in the hell can beat who at this point. It has to be played out on the field................with a playoff system.

All this woulda, coulda, shoulda bullshit. Oh yeah, have a nice day. :toast

[Biggems]

If it ended now Bama would kill Texas.

Thats what they said about OU......

Bama is a very good team, my second favorite team, ever since George Teague. They have a stellar defense. But, don't underestimate Texas. I am not happy that Texas leapfrogged Bama before the Mizzou game. I think it would be quite a defensive struggle and I feel Texas can hang with anyone in the nation.

[Biggems]

Fucking A - Texas #1, I can understand that. But Oklahoma St. jumping 10 spots, well, thats a huge jump. I was really surprised by that.

Why, they are undefeated. They have one of the best offenses and rushing attacks in the nation. They went on the road and beat #3 in the nation and this year's Mr. Heisman, Chase Daniel.

[Biggems]

t.u. is good, and i thought that the ou game could go either way. but #1...i'm not so sure about that.

but, it would be sweet for SC and t.u. to meet...i'd like that.

Ok, I understand OU, A&M, and Tennessee calling us tu, but why USC. We have only played once, and won. I just don't see why a USC fan would call us tu instead of UT....but whatever.....to each their own I guess

[MajorMike]

Ok, I understand OU, A&M, and Tennessee calling us tu, but why USC. We have only played once, and won. I just don't see why a USC fan would call us tu instead of UT....but whatever.....to each their own I guess


jgw isn't really an SC fan; he grew up an atm fan then moved to SoCal and jumped on the bandwagon.

[ATRAIN]

Ok, I understand OU, A&M, and Tennessee calling us tu, but why USC. We have only played once, and won. I just don't see why a USC fan would call us tu instead of UT....but whatever.....to each their own I guess

Yeah I was thinking that, its just like the Horns down sign. Every fucking school does it and they dont deserve to sniff the jocks of the players. USC is still bitter for UT beating them at the Rose bowl. Your right JGW and other USC fans and other schools for that matter shouldnt be calling UT TU!!

[ATRAIN]

jgw isn't really an SC fan; he grew up an atm fan then moved to SoCal and jumped on the bandwagon.

If thats the case then that is acceptable.

[stretch]

lol, i think SC would stomp t.u...hopefully t.u. makes it that far. i don't see how that makes me anything but a genius.

what happened last time UT and SC played?

stfu

[stretch]

Ok, I understand OU, A&M, and Tennessee calling us tu, but why USC. We have only played once, and won. I just don't see why a USC fan would call us tu instead of UT....but whatever.....to each their own I guess

thats because logic makes too much sense for JGW.

[stretch]

jgw isn't really an SC fan; he grew up an atm fan then moved to SoCal and jumped on the bandwagon.

is that true?

what a faggot.

[monosylab1k]

Why, they are undefeated. They have one of the best offenses and rushing attacks in the nation. They went on the road and beat #3 in the nation and this year's Mr. Heisman, Chase Daniel.

:tu

Oklahoma State > Tech

[monosylab1k]

I just can't wait for the media to stop having such a hard-on for the SEC and recognize that the Big 12 is FAR superior this season.

[tlongII]

Penn State would beat Bama or Texas.

[Whisky Dog]

Could Bama beat the 1942 Army team?

Could Texas beat the 1963 USC team?

If Texas and Bama played in a time warp where they were transported to ancient Greece, who would win?

Seriously, who fucking cares at this point? I'd hate to be rated #1 in October and I wish Bama was there.

[IronMexican]

Trojans will make it there at the end of the day:hat

[Obstructed_View]

Seriously, who fucking cares at this point?

Agreed.

[johngateswhiteley]

what happened last time UT and SC played?

stfu

SC handed t.u. the game with mistake after mistake...but i don't see how that has anything to do with this year.

we'll see...

[monosylab1k]

SC handed t.u. the game with mistake after mistake...

:lmao you can say that about every single team that has lost every single football game in the history of the sport of football. They all lost because of mistakes. Which means that UT outplayed USC. End of story.

[johngateswhiteley]

Trojans will make it there at the end of the day:hat

i think so. i believe SC is #4 in the current unofficial BCS standings. plenty of season left to rise...or fall.

i understand florida just ripped lsu apart...but florida had a worse loss than SC. ol' miss at the swamp? at least oregon state is a good team, hell they had utah beat if not for that horrible pass interference call. did anyone see that game? unreal.

SC's wins have been more impressive than florida's...shit even Virginia has had some nice wins.

[johngateswhiteley]

:lmao you can say that about every single team that has lost every single football game in the history of the sport of football. They all lost because of mistakes.

actually, no. furthermore, there are mistakes...and then there are bonehead plays.

[johngateswhiteley]

Ok, I understand OU, A&M, and Tennessee calling us tu, but why USC. We have only played once, and won.

SC and t.u. have played 5 times.

[stretch]

SC handed t.u. the game with mistake after mistake...but i don't see how that has anything to do with this year.

we'll see...

mental strength is arguably the most important aspect to winning football games. USC proved they were not mentally strong by making mistakes. its all part of the game. not being mentally strong means you have a weakness, just like lack of running game is considered a weakness, or lack of defense is considered as weakness.

Texas WON the game. USC didn't hand them shit.

and it has to do with this year because you said predicting SC would win makes you a genius. obviously it didnt work that way a couple years ago.

[stretch]

SC and t.u. have played 5 times.

in a history of over 100 years. no rivalry exists. just bitterness on your part because Texas took the title of "the greatest team ever" and made it their own.

[IronMexican]

I still fucking hate Reggie Bush till this day because of that. why the fuck do you try to lateral that ball?

[monosylab1k]

actually, no.

actually, yes.

[stretch]

and then there are bonehead plays.

aka - lack of mental stability which is a part of sports

[stretch]

I still fucking hate Reggie Bush till this day because of that. why the fuck do you try to lateral that ball?

mentally weak. just like the cowboys.

[johngateswhiteley]

mental strength is arguably the most important aspect to winning football games. USC proved they were not mentally strong by making mistakes. its all part of the game. not being mentally strong means you have a weakness, just like lack of running game is considered a weakness, or lack of defense is considered as weakness.

Texas WON the game. USC didn't hand them shit.

and it has to do with this year because you said predicting SC would win makes you a genius. obviously it didnt work that way a couple years ago.

1. great teams can slip up once, happens all the time

2. if you have any sense of humor at all, you know what i meant by the genius comments

...you're reaching.

[johngateswhiteley]

in a history of over 100 years. no rivalry exists. just bitterness on your part because Texas took the title of "the greatest team ever" and made it their own.

nobody ever said a rivalry exists. i'm correcting an ill-informed t.u. fan...and letting him know SC owns t.u. 4-1.

[stretch]

1. great teams can slip up once, happens all the time

2. if you have any sense of humor at all, you know what i meant by the genius comments

...you're reaching.

1. USC was a great team, no question. Texas was greater.

2. the only humor was thinking SC would stomp UT. and you thinking you actually have reason to refer to them as "t.u." when no rivalry exists at all. only in the minds of bitter fans like yourself.

...fail.

[stretch]

nobody ever said a rivalry exists. i'm correcting an ill-informed t.u. fan...and letting him know SC owns t.u. 4-1.

first, the last time before the rose bowl that they played was in 1967.

second, U.T. actually owns SC because the only game that truly mattered, UT won.

its like saying since the suns beat the spurs 3 times in the regular season, that they own the spurs, when the spurs beat them in the playoffs (when it counted). who truly owned who? The Spurs owned the Suns, just like Texas owned SC.

[johngateswhiteley]

its like saying since the suns beat the spurs 3 times in the regular season, that they own the spurs, when the spurs beat them in the playoffs (when it counted). who truly owned who? The Spurs owned the Suns, just like Texas owned SC.

playoffs don't exist in CFB...every game matters.


actually, in 1967 SC beat #5 t.u. in route to a national title...and SC still owns t.u. all time 4-1. get some perspective.

[stretch]

playoffs don't exist in CFB...every game matters.


actually, in 1967 SC beat #5 t.u. in route to a national title...and SC still owns t.u. all time 4-1. get some perspective.

Win in a National Championship Game >>>>>>>>>>>>> Win in a regular season game

get some perspective.

:lmao at this guy getting so defensive over his team and hating so much on UT for beating SC that he goes so far as to saying a regular season game win somewhat means as much as a national championship game win.

[LaMarcus Bryant]

Well we now know for a fact that Penn State sucks cock, because Tlong is the absolute worst predictor in the history of this forum....

It's all inconsequential, no fucking way texas makes it through undefeated, and the media is going to bump USC up 2 spots in the polls from here on out, even if they lose another game.

ALL I WANT out of this season is to end up playing an SEC team in a bowl. So we can shut the fuck up all this media SEC is God hype bull shit. It's already a known fact that Pac10, Big10, and all those other shit conferences are total garbage. Now its time to show the world that losing to a bad team in your conference is not supposed to be a sign of how good your conference is.

[Whisky Dog]

That black woman on espn that argues with skip clueless actually said Bama could challenge an NFL team. No shit. That's how ridiculously overhyped the sec is.

The sec has several good teams but no great team. The big XII clearly better

[tlongII]

Well we now know for a fact that Penn State sucks cock, because Tlong is the absolute worst predictor in the history of this forum....

It's all inconsequential, no fucking way texas makes it through undefeated, and the media is going to bump USC up 2 spots in the polls from here on out, even if they lose another game.

ALL I WANT out of this season is to end up playing an SEC team in a bowl. So we can shut the fuck up all this media SEC is God hype bull shit. It's already a known fact that Pac10, Big10, and all those other shit conferences are total garbage. Now its time to show the world that losing to a bad team in your conference is not supposed to be a sign of how good your conference is.

Number 1 - I am clearly the BEST prognosticator in the history of this forum!

Number 2 - I DEMAND that you change your screen name! You are a disgrace to the good name LaMarcus!

[IronMexican]

For a moment I thought to myself "How the fuck does a middle aged white guy have a name like "LaMarcus" Then I realized.

[TacoCabanaFajitas]

I love how USC's loss to an unranked team and a horrible performance against a shitty ASU squad where their offense sputtered, moves them up to anywhere even near a top 10 spot in the rankings. Meanwhile Kansas' loss ended any chance of a bowl game this year, and Missouri's looks like it may have done the same. USC is so wildly overrated the last 2 years, they should seriously be in EVERY national title game from now on due to their inevitable #1 ranking at the start of each season and the weak ass conference that they play in. I live in Tucson and get to see the shitty Pac10 teams play a lot, and I honestly think there are high school teams in Texas that would give this powderpuff conference fits

[MajorMike]

I agree; SC is consistently overrated in the system. They can lose to a poor team while LSU and UGA and Mizzou can all lose to other highly ranked teams and still be behind them.

I think people try to compensate because the rest of the P10 (sort of west coast football in general) sucks so badly they fell one team needs to be rated high, whereas, well, heck you got tons of midwest/southeast teams so might as well let someone else share.

It is a conspiracy to keep the west coast interested in football because without SC they have nothing. Sort of starts at I-35 and goes west, with the annual mormon selection (Utah, Hawaii, BYU).

[Doug Collins]

Sort of starts at I-35 and goes west, with the annual mormon selection (Utah, Hawaii, BYU).

LDS is the fastest growing religious organization in the U.S. if I remember correctly. I think you can blame affirmative action for the annual mormon lovefest.

[johngateswhiteley]

I agree; SC is consistently overrated in the system. They can lose to a poor team while LSU and UGA and Mizzou can all lose to other highly ranked teams and still be behind them.

I think people try to compensate because the rest of the P10 (sort of west coast football in general) sucks so badly they fell one team needs to be rated high, whereas, well, heck you got tons of midwest/southeast teams so might as well let someone else share.

It is a conspiracy to keep the west coast interested in football because without SC they have nothing. Sort of starts at I-35 and goes west, with the annual mormon selection (Utah, Hawaii, BYU).

lol, yeah you're probably right. SC's success in the BCS and against top 10 foes probably has nothing to do with it. whats SC's final ranking been each of the last 5 years?

everyone gone nuts...

[BUMP]

I love how USC's loss to an unranked team and a horrible performance against a shitty ASU squad where their offense sputtered, moves them up to anywhere even near a top 10 spot in the rankings. Meanwhile Kansas' loss ended any chance of a bowl game this year, and Missouri's looks like it may have done the same. USC is so wildly overrated the last 2 years, they should seriously be in EVERY national title game from now on due to their inevitable #1 ranking at the start of each season and the weak ass conference that they play in. I live in Tucson and get to see the shitty Pac10 teams play a lot, and I honestly think there are high school teams in Texas that would give this powderpuff conference fits

i think a Euless Trinity or a Plano Senior High team could give a lowly team like Washington State a very competitive game, possibly even win if the games were in Texas

[johngateswhiteley]

i think a Euless Trinity or a Plano Senior High team could give a lowly team like Washington State a very competitive game, possibly even win if the games were in Texas

probably, and alabama could beat some NFL teams.

[MajorMike]

lol, yeah you're probably right. SC's success in the BCS and against top 10 foes probably has nothing to do with it. whats SC's final ranking been each of the last 5 years?

everyone gone nuts...

I dunno about that... SC has won as many BCS titles as uo, or UT, or Florida, or Fla State, or Miami, or Tenn, or Ohio have. Hell Ohio, uo and Fla State have lost as many BCS title games as SC has been in.

The only team west of I-35 that has been in the title game is SC (unless you count the fact UT's stadium is about 200 yards west of it).

[tlongII]

If SC is so overrated why do they almost always win their bowl games???

[LaMarcus Bryant]

Ehhhh tlong, in case you did not notice, ever since the 2005 championship, every BCS bowl USC has been in has been against the weakest fucking undeserved team eligible for the BCS that year.

I'd like to see USC end up playin an SEC team too this year, bc I think an SEC team would rape their west coast homer ass.

[johngateswhiteley]

Ehhhh tlong, in case you did not notice, ever since the 2005 championship, every BCS bowl USC has been in has been against the weakest fucking undeserved team eligible for the BCS that year.

I'd like to see USC end up playin an SEC team too this year, bc I think an SEC team would rape their west coast homer ass.

if you are going to post, at least make it worth reading.

[johngateswhiteley]

I dunno about that... SC has won as many BCS titles as uo, or UT, or Florida, or Fla State, or Miami, or Tenn, or Ohio have. Hell Ohio, uo and Fla State have lost as many BCS title games as SC has been in.

The only team west of I-35 that has been in the title game is SC (unless you count the fact UT's stadium is about 200 yards west of it).

why do you spin things? and what you posted is drivel.

1. SC has won more BCS bowl games than anyone
2. SC has been to as many BCS bowl games as anyone
3. after Carroll's first season SC has never finished worse than #4 in the nation
4. 6 straight seasons of 11 or more wins...an NCAA record

...look, i understand people are jealous and tired of the Trojans...i get that. but lets not be stupid and ignorant.

[Greg Oden]

JGW, tell me the story of how you became a Trojans fan so I won't think of you as a bandwagoing fuckstick.

[johngateswhiteley]

JGW, tell me the story of how you became a Trojans fan so I won't think of you as a bandwagoing fuckstick.

dude, i've been over that a million times...search the forum if you want to. bottom line, i am an A&M and SC fan and have been for many many years.

[johngateswhiteley]

So fine, you root for SC, then continue by explaining how you also root for the Spurs and the Patriots. Maybe you just have a knack for picking teams that all would conveniently begin dominating their sports at roughly the same time?

If you tell me you're a Yankees fan I might be forced to punch you right in your ovaries.

are you senile? i am from San Antonio, fuck head. and the Saints are my NFL team. wanting the Pats to go undefeated b/c i like the way the play doesn't mean they are my team.

i can't believe how ridiculous some of you are...and the assumptions you make.

[Greg Oden]

According to the cumguzzler Ron Mexico, you have to go to the school to be considered a fan.

Also, being a Spur/A&M/Saints fan seems straight down the line, but then you jump all the way to the left side of the country where it just so happens the most successful college football team of all time resides and you call yourself a fan of them.

[stretch]

are you senile? i am from San Antonio, fuck head. and the Saints are my NFL team. wanting the Pats to go undefeated b/c i like the way the play doesn't mean they are my team.

i can't believe how ridiculous some of you are...and the assumptions you make.

lol were you a saints fan before reggie got there?

[MajorMike]

why do you spin things? and what you posted is drivel.

1. SC has won more BCS bowl games than anyone
2. SC has been to as many BCS bowl games as anyone
3. after Carroll's first season SC has never finished worse than #4 in the nation
4. 6 straight seasons of 11 or more wins...an NCAA record

...look, i understand people are jealous and tired of the Trojans...i get that. but lets not be stupid and ignorant.

1. True.
2. True; in a conf with the widest disparity of having different teams going, SC dominates the P10 and has gotten the auto-bid more than any other team.
3. Yay; its funny, you know uo and UT fans consider ending the year #2 a disappointment. I guess SC fans are just jazzed to be on the show.
4. Again, come play in the SEC or B12 and see how many 11 win seasons in a row you get.


There have been more teams from non-BCS confs in BCS Bowls (3) than 2nd P10 teams in the BCS as an at-large (2).

Only USC has multiple BCS Bowl bids - no other P10 school has more than 1.

Only twice this century have more than 2 P10 teams been ranked in the final AP poll (Az State #20 - 2004; UW #19 - 2001).

P10 only had one team in the top 20 in 1999 (Ore #19), 1998 (UCLA #8), 1995 (SC #12), 1990 (UW #5), 1989 (SC #8), 1985 (UCLA #6), 1983 (UCLA #13) and I got tired of looking.

P10 is only a better conf than the ACC or BEast in the BCS era because SC is in it. That's all, nothing more.

Hell if ttek even got to play that schedule every year they'd have 11 wins 7 or 8 years in a row, let alone uo, UT, LSU, Fla, UGA, etc.

And to further prove how lucky SC is to have the P10, the reason they get to go to the BCS every year - because of the patsy P10 schedule, let's look at the records of the BCS Era:

Boise State - 103-24; 1 BCS Bid
UT - 103-25 2 BCS Bid; 1 Title
uo - 102-28 6 Bids; 1 Title
Ohio - 98-27 6 Bids; 1 Title
Va Tech - 99-28; 3 Bids
UGA - 97-30; 3 Bids
Miami - 94-30; 4 Bids; 1 Title
SC - 94-32; 6 Bids; 1 Title

In the BCS era, the only other P10 team in the top 20 in record is Oregon (#17) and they have 1 BCS bid. To my suprise, Oregon State was next... at #31.

The B12 has 2 in the Top 3 (the top 2 if you aren't counting Boise), Neb (18), KSU (24) and ttek (28). atm is at 42 which is still above the next P10 team (UCLA 44).

SEC has 6, 10, 10, 16, 19.

ACC has 5, 7, 12, 19, 27.

BEast has 5, 14, 22, 26.

B10/1 has 4, 9, 15,

SC makes a living feasting off of poor P10 teams to get the auto BCS bid. Have they won a good amount of games since then, yes; good on them. Getting the auto bid guarantees them a home game at the Rose Bowl where 4 of their BCS games have been and they are 3-1 (losing only to UT in the title game).

I'm sure Ohio and UT and uo would love to play a home game for a BCS Bowl, as well.

[IronMexican]

lol were you a saints fan before reggie got there?

That's impossible. No one supported that team before 2006.

[IronMexican]

1. True.
2. True; in a conf with the widest disparity of having different teams going, SC dominates the P10 and has gotten the auto-bid more than any other team.
3. Yay; its funny, you know uo and UT fans consider ending the year #2 a disappointment. I guess SC fans are just jazzed to be on the show.
4. Again, come play in the SEC or B12 and see how many 11 win seasons in a row you get.

Lol, "jazzed to be on the "show"" SC has lost one BCS Bowl game in 6 years. I hope they can land a B12 or SEC team this year.

[stretch]

That's impossible. No one supported that team before 2006.

The year Drew Brees and Sean Payton arrived.

[MajorMike]

Lol, "jazzed to be on the "show"" SC has lost one BCS Bowl game in 6 years. I hope they can land a B12 or SEC team this year.


How many teams get to play a BCS game in their home stadium year in and year out?

[IronMexican]

How many teams get to play a BCS game in their home stadium year in and year out?

We won the Orange Bowl in 2003, we won the Sugar Bowl in 2005. We actually have a loss at the Rose Bowl.

[MajorMike]

We won the Orange Bowl in 2003, we won the Sugar Bowl in 2005.

You sure about that, Tonto?

[monosylab1k]

We won the Orange Bowl in 2003, we won the Sugar Bowl in 2005. We actually have a loss at the Rose Bowl.

The 05 game was the Orange Bowl too.

[IronMexican]

The 05 game was the Orange Bowl too.

Serious? lol, damn my bad. Either way, USC has proven they can win the big games.

[MajorMike]

Serious? lol, damn my bad. Either way, USC has proven they can win the big games.

SC has won as many BCS games outside of their home stadium as UT, Wisc, WVa, UGA, Miami and uo. Ohio has won 4 no where near their home.

[IronMexican]

Who gives a damn. LSU got to play the Sugar Bowl in their "Home Stadium" and nobody gives a shit.

[johngateswhiteley]

mike,

again, you're only looking at factors that you think strengthen your argument. SC plays one the toughest non-conference schedules year in and year out and has a phenomenal record against the top 10. you're not going to agree with this, but the pac-10 is plenty tough...lots of talent and the ability to beat any team anywhere. though, i do think they are more inconsistent than some of the other power conferences. SC has more trouble with conference foes than top 25 non-conference opponents.

playing in the rose bowl isn't much of an advantage. both teams have about equal amount of fans in the stands and it isn't like the visiting team is traveling overnight to make the afternoon game. its a bunch of college kids. if anything, i'd think playing near home would be more of a distraction. so you can stop the insanity.

SC is the best program in college football right now, and all your spinning and efforts in convincing can't change that.

[tlongII]

Hopefully the Beavs can win out. If so, we win the Pac-10 via our head to head win against USC.

[MajorMike]

mike,

again, you're only looking at factors that you think strengthen your argument.

And you don't?



SC plays one the toughest non-conference schedules year in and year out and has a phenomenal record against the top 10.

you're not going to agree with this, but the pac-10 is plenty tough...lots of talent and the ability to beat any team anywhere. though, i do think they are more inconsistent than some of the other power conferences.

SC has more trouble with conference foes than top 25 non-conference opponents.

playing in the rose bowl isn't much of an advantage. both teams have about equal amount of fans in the stands and it isn't like the visiting team is traveling overnight to make the afternoon game. its a bunch of college kids. if anything, i'd think playing near home would be more of a distraction.


Talk about spinning. Not much of an advantage in the Rose Bowl... just a bunch of college kids... now we know why people think you aren't very smart. Because you don't think before you open your yap and say stupid stuff.

I list facts; you list "you know its that way," and "because its the way it is," and "you know this to be true" flames without facts.

[johngateswhiteley]

Hopefully the Beavs can win out. If so, we win the Pac-10 via our head to head win against USC.

i doubt oregon state wins out, but maybe. it would be funny if oregon state was pac-10 champs and SC was in the title game.

[johngateswhiteley]

capt. dumb ass,

my first sentence is fact.
my second thought is opinion.
my third statement is fact.
my last paragraph is opinion.

whats the problem? i have no delusions of grandeur and i'm sorry you feel inferior. you attacked me b/c you disagreed with my opinion (its right there in your last post).

[MajorMike]

I didn't attack you I just said what everyone else on this board thinks, and says most of the time. That's fact, too.

[johngateswhiteley]

I didn't attack you I just said what everyone else on this board thinks, and says most of the time. That's fact, too.

most of the posters on this board are idiots...they make assumptions and get emotional. plus, the dislike for SC and myself clouds their judgment.

...and we both know you called me stupid.

[MajorMike]

...and we both know you called me stupid.


You have GOT to be a 12-year old girl.

"I know you are but what am I?"

[LaMarcus Bryant]

Pure Energy.

Tellll me whats on your miiiiind!

[LaMarcus Bryant]

http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/7035/cosbyholmes2gp2.gif

[Whisky Dog]

I like how Collins isn't looking at Shipley or trying to throw the block to get him in the endzone, he's staring at the fool that got Cosby'd.

[GaryJohnston]

Serious? lol, damn my bad. Either way, USC has proven they can win the big games.

Maybe USC in the past has, but Mark Sanchez hasn't proven jack shit to me, other than he can choke when a game is tight.

U.T. would stomp USC. Pac-10 football sucks.

[tlongII]

It would be nice to see UT play USC for the title again...

[tlongII]

As long as the Beavs win the Pac-10...

[johngateswhiteley]

Maybe USC in the past has, but Mark Sanchez hasn't proven jack shit to me, other than he can choke when a game is tight.

U.T. would stomp USC. Pac-10 football sucks.

Sanchez was pretty good against Oregon and Ohio State, but you have a decent point. we'll see how he responds if the Trojans get in another tight one.

t.u. would not stomp SC. SC has never been stomped since Pete Carroll has been coach and it wont happen this year. aside from that, i don't think t.u. fan should be all that excited at the possibility of playing the Trojans. yes, t.u. beat oklahomo, but SC is a different animal.

[Romo]

Romo likes SC's defense but knows Mark Sanchez would throw 8 picks in a half if he ever starts a national championship game.

[johngateswhiteley]

Pure Energy.

Tellll me whats on your miiiiind!

i'm a big fan of jordan shipley. he's having a nice year.

[johngateswhiteley]

Romo likes SC's defense but knows Mark Sanchez would throw 8 picks in a half if he ever starts a national championship game.

lol, perhaps.

[johngateswhiteley]

lol were you a saints fan before reggie got there?

i was an oilers fan growing up. they left, i then became a saints fan. its not difficult.

[johngateswhiteley]

...but then you jump all the way to the left side of the country where it just so happens the most successful college football team of all time resides...

at least you recognize.

[Blake]

if Misszoury somehow wns on Saturday, the polls are all gonna be messed up.

Will Misszoury move ahead of UT? Will UT also still be ahead of OU? Will Tech move ahead of all three of them?

[stretch]

i was an oilers fan growing up. they left, i then became a saints fan. its not difficult.

but what made you become a saints fan?

[monosylab1k]

but what made you become a saints fan?

It would make more sense for a former Oilers fan to root for the Texans now, but they didn't draft Reggie Bush. Plus they suck.

[GaryJohnston]

Sanchez was pretty good against Oregon and Ohio State, but you have a decent point. we'll see how he responds if the Trojans get in another tight one.

t.u. would not stomp SC. SC has never been stomped since Pete Carroll has been coach and it wont happen this year. aside from that, i don't think t.u. fan should be all that excited at the possibility of playing the Trojans. yes, t.u. beat oklahomo, but SC is a different animal.

When I said stomp, I just meant "get their ass kicked" not like a 44-0 score or anything like that. But this isn't the SC teams of the past few years. And the Pac-10 will not prepare this team for adequate competition down the road. Texas at least has a schedule that will make them battle tested come the Big XII championship and Bowl games.

[stretch]

yes, t.u. beat oklahomo, but SC is a different animal.

you're right.

OU >>> USC

[johngateswhiteley]

but what made you become a saints fan?

don't like the cowboys and didn't want to wait years for houston to get a new team. even after houston got the texans, i didn't fell any loyalty to them...different franchise i suppose.

new orleans was the next closest team...and i've spent a lot of time there with friends and family. not that it matters a whole lot, but i really like the city.

[stretch]

don't like the cowboys and didn't want to wait years for houston to get a new team. even after houston got the texans, i didn't fell any loyalty to them...different franchise i suppose.

new orleans was the next closest team...and i've spent a lot of time there with friends and family. not that it matters a whole lot, but i really like the city.

then you would think that since a team being in houston didnt matter (as evidenced by not rooting for the Texans), then you would have become a titans fan.

although im sure you would be rooting your ass off for the texans had they drafted reggie bush. but of course you will likely deny it.

[johngateswhiteley]

then you would think that since a team being in houston didnt matter (as evidenced by not rooting for the Texans), then you would have become a titans fan.

although im sure you would be rooting your ass off for the texans had they drafted reggie bush. but of course you will likely deny it.

do you realize how ridiculous your comments and this conversation are? you're trying to tell me who i should root for...more or less.

anyway, i hated the oilers when they left...why would i be a fan of that team? fuck them. i started rooting for the Saints before houston got the texans in 2002. it was pretty sweet when they got Bush and Brees...though its only led to 1 good season. this year has been tough b/c we could be at least 5-1 and quite possibly 6-0. the washington and minnesota games were fucking brutal. and we had some decent chances against denver...

[leemajors]

why hate the oiler team after it left? maybe the owner, but i always thought the city didn't do much to keep the team.

[IronMexican]

Bush is a faggot anyways.

[redraiderinfiji]

don't like the cowboys and didn't want to wait years for houston to get a new team. even after houston got the texans, i didn't fell any loyalty to them...different franchise i suppose.

new orleans was the next closest team...and i've spent a lot of time there with friends and family. not that it matters a whole lot, but i really like the city.

YOU ARE NOW A CERTIFIED BOLD FACED LIAR. THE OILERS LEFT, YOU BECAME A DALLAS FAN. A&M STARTED TO SUCK DONKEY NUTS, SO YOU BECAME A USC FAN. REGGIE BUSH WENT TO THE SAINTS, SO Y0U BECAME A SAINTS FAN.

WHATS FUNNY IS I REMEMBER A POST FROM YOU TELLING ABOUT HOW YOU WERE ALWAYS A COWBOYS FAN!!!! HAHA, YOUR A JOKE.

[johngateswhiteley]

YOU ARE NOW A CERTIFIED BOLD FACED LIAR. THE OILERS LEFT, YOU BECAME A DALLAS FAN. A&M STARTED TO SUCK DONKEY NUTS, SO YOU BECAME A USC FAN. REGGIE BUSH WENT TO THE SAINTS, SO Y0U BECAME A SAINTS FAN.

WHATS FUNNY IS I REMEMBER A POST FROM YOU TELLING ABOUT HOW YOU WERE ALWAYS A COWBOYS FAN!!!! HAHA, YOUR A JOKE.

dude, are you on shrooms? you should find that post...cause it doesn't exist. you make yourself look like an idiot, i don't even know how to respond to your posts. you shouldn't make shit up.

[IronMexican]

dude, are you on shrooms? you should find that post...cause it doesn't exist. you make yourself look like an idiot, i don't even know how to respond to your posts. you shouldn't make shit up.

I found it.




I love the Cowboys.

[Spurtacus]

And we will be #1 in the BCS rankings tomorrow.