Game Blog: Preseason Game 3 - Spurs vs. Pistons

[tav1]

I doubt Hill is injured. My guess is that Pop has seen enough. He's the back up. Now the question is whether or not to keep JV? So he gets extended time. Vaughn better hope Stoudamire doesn't bust a nut when he comes back.
Edit: Fuck Me!

[Spurs Brazil]

WOAI broadcast reported that Hill has an injured hand

DAMN

[Dex]

If we wanted a useless grizzled veteran on the roster, we should've kept Horry.

[angelbelow]

i looked through a few pages, there is no online link right? just the directv channel? please help if im wrong.

[timvp]

WOAI broadcast reported that Hill has an injured hand
:pctoss

[mystargtr34]

WOAI broadcast reported that Hill has an injured hand

Fucking brilliant. Will anything go right.

[Russ]

i looked through a few pages, there is no online link right? just the directv channel? please help if im wrong.

751

[Xylus]

i looked through a few pages, there is no online link right? just the directv channel? please help if im wrong.

http://www.justin.tv/sporrtcenter

[timtonymanu]

how the hell did Hill injure his hand?

[timvp]

Watkins has hands of stone.

[SenorSpur]

Hopefully Hill isn't hurt. It's pretty weird that he's not playing.

Listening to the radio broadcast, Bill Schoenig indicated that Hill has a pack of ice on his hand. Maybe he injured it shooting the ball so much. :lol

[tav1]

How many shots will Tolliver put up between now and the end of the game? I'm guessing 7.

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

Edit: Fuck Me!

:lmao

[Dex]

Spurs routing a preseason game?

Everybody pig-proof your windows.

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

Udoka with the gimme.

[Dex]

Okey-dokey!

[timtonymanu]

wow Udoka scored.

[timvp]

I guess its safe to say that Udoka is the team's 6th string point guard right now after Parker, Hill, Vaugh, Manu and Stoudamire.

[angelbelow]

http://www.justin.tv/sporrtcenter

thanks

[tav1]

I guess its safe to say that Udoka is the team's 6th string point guard right now after Parker, Hill, Vaugh, Manu and Stoudamire.

Ah, Mason?

[timtonymanu]

back-to-back layups for udoka!

[Xylus]

Jesus, those were some ugly ass free throws from Maxiell.

[timvp]

Udoka is the point guard for the Nigerian national team so it's not too surprising, I guess.

[tav1]

Udoka is the point guard for the Nigerian national team so it's not too surprising, I guess.

That's says more about their national team than him.

[timvp]

Udoka has come alive.

[timtonymanu]

Udoka picking it up!

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

Udoka on fire.

[tav1]

Udoka is finally finding his game. Good to see.

[Dex]

Too early Udoka!

You're supposed to sneak up on them in the regular season!

[024]

udoka playing point guard has made my day.

[ElNono]

So far so good... we might win our first pre-season championship game...

[timvp]

Ah, Mason?
True. Maybe 7th string :smokin

[Spurs Brazil]

Ime 33333

[tav1]

Let's see Hairston, Farmer and Watkins in the 4th, please.

[birdy219]

Odd Year Baby!!!!!! Bring on all takers!!!! :flag: :flag:
(yes, I know it's a little early to be smack-talking, but So What) :downspin:

[mystargtr34]

Udoka finally doing something

[Xylus]

High scoring game.

A real nailbiter.

[tav1]

Pop is coaching a good camp to have these guys playing such good D.

[timvp]

Grand Rapids with some rated PG-13 entertainment . . .

[tp2021]

Thats what the Spurs and Pistons are known for. Especially versus one another.

[Dex]

Go ahead and give us the trophy.

Not even Mike, Scott Howard, and Air Bud could stop us now.

[ElNono]

I'm also pretty proud we don't have a fair weather fan asking Is Manu injured? yet... :hat

[Dex]

I'm also pretty proud we don't have a fair weather fan asking Is Manu injured? yet... :hat

I'm still waiting for Pop to play Malik Rose. :pctoss

[tav1]

Do ya'll think Haiston will play for Toros peanuts. He's okay.

[byrdman31]

whats up everyone just got home turned on the game. wow, i dont feel like reading everything anyone want to summarize what happened who is doing good, bad?

[ElNono]

Was that a Tolliver airball?

[Dex]

whats up everyone just got home turned on the game. wow, i dont feel like reading everything anyone want to summarize what happened who is doing good, bad?

Hill :tu

Vaughn :td

Bonner :elephant

[Xylus]

Man, the defense is unbelievable.

[timtonymanu]

whats up everyone just got home turned on the game. wow, i dont feel like reading everything anyone want to summarize what happened who is doing good, bad?

Bonner seems to be the only bonehead. everyone else is decent.

[angelbelow]

is 31 watkins?

[byrdman31]

Hill :tu

Vaughn :td

Bonner :elephant





soo... nothing new????:lol:lol

[tav1]

It's hard to find a reason to like Tolliver.

[SenorSpur]

Bonner seems to be the only bonehead. everyone else is decent.

Looks like Bonner is the forum "whipping boy" of this preseason. The guy who most everyone wants to ship outta here. He's taken the role Beno occupied last preseason.

[tav1]

Farmer played well too.

[Spurs Brazil]

Pistons radio said Hill has a sprained left thumb

[angelbelow]

Pistons radio said Hill has a sprained left thumb

thats not bad, those heal in like one day.

[tav1]

Farmer in.

[timvp]

Green at point guard now.

[SenorSpur]

Who's got the edge between Hairston and Gaines?

[angelbelow]

green with the 3. nice shot.

[timvp]

Pistons radio said Hill has a sprained left thumbDamn. Depending on the severity, that could knock him out for the rest of the preseason.

[tav1]

Who's got the edge between Hairston and Gaines?
Hairston by a mile.

[angelbelow]

how did hill look? i wasnt able to catch the game early, his stats look good though.

[timvp]

Who's got the edge between Hairston and Gaines?
Gaines has a 0% chance to make the team.

[Dex]

Mr. video server dude, plz stop fucking with things, kthxbye

[Dex]

If the Spurs can get healthy, we'll be pretty good. :pctoss

[tav1]

Green and Gaines are gone after Cleveland. Probably Watkins.

They'll keep Hairston for the entire preseason, but only as a way to sweet talk him into the Toros a la Marcus Williams. Maybe they'll do the same for Watkins.

Farmer and Stoudamire have a chance. Tolliver shouldn't, but Pop likes him.

[SenorSpur]

How's Watkins looking tonight? Is he providing his usual physicality in the paint - despite his terrible hands?

[SenorSpur]

Green and Gaines are gone after Cleveland. Probably Watkins.

They'll keep Hairston for the entire preseason, but only as a way to sweet talk him into the Toros a la Marcus Williams. Maybe they'll do the same for Watkins.

Farmer and Stoudamire have a chance. Tolliver shouldn't, but Pop likes him.


You don't see Watkins making the squad?

[ElNono]

How's Watkins looking tonight? Is he providing his usual physicality in the paint - despite his terrible hands?

I think he played as good as Kwame Brown... I'm just not sure if that's a good thing...

[tav1]

How's Watkins looking tonight? Is he providing his usual physicality in the paint - despite his terrible hands?

Bad hands. Not much.

[timvp]

Green showing some life.

[Dex]

Green was a Laker?

Shoot 'im!

[angelbelow]

green again nice.

[tav1]

Green and Hairston would be a very respectable Toros backcourt.

[hater]

who just got the block?

[angelbelow]

Green was a Laker?

Shoot 'im!

:lol

[SenorSpur]

Bad hands. Not much.

Spurs don't need him to score necessarily. THey need him to rebound, defend and block shots. Just heard that Watkins is the all-time leader in blocked shots at Syracuse. That explains his penchant for swatting shit outta there.

[timvp]

Hairston running the O.

[timvp]

who just got the block?Looked like Tolliver.

[angelbelow]

Green and Hairston would be a very respectable Toros backcourt.

yea.

[timvp]

Nice shot by Hairston.

[angelbelow]

nice shot by hairston.

[Dex]

Fucking Pistons and their halfcourt trap. I bet Beno still sees you in his nightmares.

Hairston with a triple.

[hater]

Looked like Tolliver.

damn he's a pretty big dude to be shooting so much from outside

[ElNono]

Is that Bonner with the scrubs? :lol

[timvp]

Seems like Farmer has run out of gas.

[angelbelow]

Fucking Pistons and their halfcourt trap. I bet Beno still sees you in his nightmares.

Hairston with a triple.

thanks to the piston halfcourt trap beno was benched for 3 years so im guessing he does indeed still have nightmares about it.

[Dex]

10 threes by 8 different players? Not bad

[ElNono]

I think Pop is sending a clear message...

[SenorSpur]

Spurs up by 23 in a preseason game?

[tav1]

Hairston continues to look decent.

[SenorSpur]

I think Pop is sending a clear message...

What message would that be?

[timvp]

Fucking Pistons and their halfcourt trap. I bet Beno still sees you in his nightmares.Yeah, Beno is going to have to name his first son Lindsey.

Or daughter.

[SenorSpur]

Hairston continues to look decent.

I heard Hariston just hit a three. How's his stroke look from behind the arc?

[mystargtr34]

Hairston with 8 points 3 boards an assist and a couple blocks.

Pretty solid.

[bdubya]

Spurs up by 23 in a preseason game?

I officially retract all the nasty words I said trying to get the feed to work. :depressed

[ElNono]

What message would that be?

To Bonner I mean... unless somebody got hurt...
I mean, it's all the rookies now.. and he sends Bonner in...

[Dex]

What message would that be?

"Our scrubs are better than your scrubs"

[timvp]

Hill and Hairston have looked a lot better than they did in summer league. Too bad we don't get to see if Mahinmi would have improved just as much.

[byrdman31]

Is that Bonner with the scrubs? :lol


no those are ALL the scrubs

[SenorSpur]

ANybody check out the 7ft Pistons player from Senegal?

[ElNono]

He took Bonner out now... weird.

[hater]

nice hustle!!!

[Dex]

Nice recovery by Green!

[tav1]

Yikes. Farmer looked bad there.

[timvp]

Another block by Hairston.

[hater]

oh shit! 2nd block in a row

[bdubya]

ANybody check out the 7ft Pistons player from Senegal?


Cheikh Samb. When they picked him up he weighed 195. Considered a "project" at the time.

[timvp]

Green has been the best player on the court in the fourth.

[HarlemHeat37]

Hairston better make this team..

I have no doubt that he would look even better feeding off Tim, Manu and TP with his athleticism..he's the type of guy that we haven't had in a while..I hope he keeps improving..

I like JV, but I don't see a reason to keep him on the team..maybe just me..I'd rather have him as a coach-type guy on the bench, but I don't see his use on the 12-man roster..I'd rather use one of the last spots on scorers, since that's clearly been our flaw..

[tav1]

Am I the only that thinks Hairston is sneaky good?

[timvp]

Gotta give the Spurs props for spending to bring in some quality training camp fodder. Everyone outside of Gaines seems to be NBA level players.

[Dex]

Good to see the Spurs won't go oh-fer in the preseason. :lol

[hater]

now we can't blame Spurs office for not trying young guys.

I like Green, Hill, even Hairston a lot

[timvp]

Am I the only that thinks Hairston is sneaky good?He looks pretty good. The only thing that worries me about him is he doesn't really have an NBA body. He's kinda short, stubby and thick.

[tav1]

Samb isn't bad. He had some good games in the D-League last year. I've hoped the Pistons would cut him so the Spurs could stick him in Austin for a year.

[DPG21920]

The Spurs looked good without Manu, TP, KT, Finley and Mason. The Pistons played their guys for a while except for Billups.

[Dex]

It's almost weird to have prospects to talk about.

This season is probably as big of a question mark as we've had since '03-'04.

[hater]

is it true that Dunca got hurt?

[angelbelow]

im cheering more and more for hairston at this point. a small part of my motivation would be wanting him to have a bigger impact than dragic.

[mystargtr34]

Can someone tell me when Ian actually hurt his ankle?

[tav1]

Gotta give the Spurs props for spending to bring in some quality training camp fodder. Everyone outside of Gaines seems to be NBA level players.

yes, absolutely.

I wonder if the program that now includes Austin will make them more serioes about camp invites from here forward?

[SenorSpur]

Hairston better make this team..

I have no doubt that he would look even better feeding off Tim, Manu and TP with his athleticism..he's the type of guy that we haven't had in a while..I hope he keeps improving..


I really hope Hairston make it too. Besides the obvious fact that we need a swingman of his skills and athleticism, I surely wouldn't want the PHX trade to be deemed a failure. I hope he's more successful that Dragic.

[Dex]

is it true that Dunca got hurt?

no?

His knees were iced after the game, but that's pretty routine after 11 extended seasons.

[SenorSpur]

im cheering more and more for hairston at this point. a small part of my motivation would be wanting him to have a bigger impact than dragic.

You read my mind.:toast

[angelbelow]

no?

His knees were iced after the game, but that's pretty routine after 12 extended seasons.

yup, i dont think hes hurt either.

[hater]

no?

His knees were iced after the game, but that's pretty routine after 12 extended seasons.

oh ok. Hope HIll is ok too

[DPG21920]

Can someone tell me when Ian actually hurt his ankle?

Right before training camp started at a workout.

[Russ]

Can someone tell me when Ian actually hurt his ankle?

He was dipping his toe into the pool to test the temp.

[Xylus]

Dragic will make an impact this season. You can take THAT to the BANK! BOOYA.


Out.

[timvp]

yes, absolutely.

I wonder if the program that now includes Austin will make them more serioes about camp invites from here forward?We'll see. I'm guessing this year a lot of it had to do with having extra money under the lux tax threshold. They spent ~$500K for the fodder, which is about ten times as much as usual.

[HarlemHeat37]

seeing these young guys excel is great and all, but it just makes the Ian injury even more annoying..dude could have used these games to build up experience and more importantly, gain Pop's trust(if he played well, obviously)..what a shame..hopefully he shows some good things in practice..we're gonna need an athletic big badly this year..

[tp2021]

YES!
It's working for me now.

[Obstructed_View]

He looks pretty good. The only thing that worries me about him is he doesn't really have an NBA body. He's kinda short, stubby and thick.

He's got NBA hops, though. The only thing that worries me is that he's been fat on occasion in the past. The kid can really play though, and he's an excellent defender. Yeah, I said excellent.

[tav1]

We'll see. I'm guessing this year a lot of it had to do with having extra money under the lux tax threshold. They spent ~$500K for the fodder, which is about ten times as much as usual.

Good point.

They have said they'd to develop a player every couple years in Austin, if not Hairston then I don't see who that might be from the current group.

[DPG21920]

He's got NBA hops, though. The only thing that worries me is that he's been fat on occasion in the past. The kid can really play though, and he's an excellent defender. Yeah, I said excellent.

What do you think about Pop's choice of ball handlers today?

[Dex]

No Finley tonight?

I'm lazy and am already looking at this page.

[Russ]

Dragic will make an impact this season. You can take THAT to the BANK! BOOYA.


Out.

You are correct, sir.

[hater]

oh shit! Farmer is lookin good too

[SenorSpur]

seeing these young guys excel is great and all, but it just makes the Ian injury even more annoying..dude could have used these games to build up experience and more importantly, gain Pop's trust(if he played well, obviously)..what a shame..hopefully he shows some good things in practice..we're gonna need an athletic big badly this year..

The injury to Ian is a huge setback for him and the team. Obviously, he lost a chance to become part of the Spurs rotation. Pop simply isn't going to throw him in the rotation without sight unseen. Once the season starts, there's little to no time to show his stuff. I wonder how long this will set him back?

[Manufan909]

Here's to hoping Hill, Hairston, and either Farmer or Green to make the team. Out of the last 2, who looked better tonight?

[Dex]

Gaines dunked it. Sign him.

[timvp]

Nice pass by Farmer and emphatic dunk by Gaines :lmao

[DPG21920]

The Spurs looked good without Manu, TP, KT, Finley and Mason. The Pistons played their guys for a while except for Billups.

[timtonymanu]

Spurs win!

[angelbelow]

You read my mind.:toast

:toast

[Dex]

Longest preseason thread ever?

[tav1]

Hairston and Farmer have a chance. This has to be killing Stoudamire.

[SenorSpur]

Hairston and Farmer have a chance. This has to be killing Stoudamire.

Completely forgot about him. Anybody think he's got a chance if he plays this week?

[Dex]

Not quite yet.

Choose something, webmaster! PPV Sports FTW!

[tp2021]

Bonus coverage.
:smokin

[Obstructed_View]

What do you think about Pop's choice of ball handlers today?

If Parker's nicked up, I want Vaughn on the roster. I don't care how good the other guys look. Hill looks like a great defender, and he can shoot. I don't want him running point for 35 minutes a game just yet.

[Obstructed_View]

Completely forgot about him. Anybody think he's got a chance if he plays this week?

No.

[mystargtr34]

The injury to Ian is a huge setback for him and the team. Obviously, he lost a chance to become part of the Spurs rotation. Pop simply isn't going to throw him in the rotation without sight unseen. Once the season starts, there's little to no time to show his stuff. I wonder how long this will set him back?

Hopefully theres some blowouts early on in the season.

[Obstructed_View]

Here's to hoping Hill, Hairston, and either Farmer or Green to make the team. Out of the last 2, who looked better tonight?

Farmer was the player of the game on the Pistons broadcast. Don't you have to give him the nod just on that basis?

[HarlemHeat37]

the thing about Vaughn..I don't really buy into his "smart veteran" perception..Vaughn has made A LOT of terrible decisions over the years, and he isn't exactly a guy I fully trust as the main PG neither..I just don't see the point in having him on the 12-man roster anymore..he doesn't give us anything that can't replaced..

you're absolutely right that Hill isn't ready to run the PG position yet, but I'd rather have Mason running the point than Vaughn..

I would be happy with this 15(assuming they continue to play well as time goes on)..maybe it's just me though..

PG Parker/Hill/Vaughn..
SG Mason/Ginobili/Finley/Farmer..
SF Bowen/Udoka/Hairston..
PF Duncan/Bonner..
C Thomas/Oberto/Mahinmi..

obviously Farmer and Hairston are hopefuls for me..and I would also hope that Mahinmi can show enough to be considered a backup, and Bonner dropping out of the 12..

Tolliver is kind of irrelevant to me at this point, although I may be selling him short too early..

[SenorSpur]

If Parker's nicked up, I want Vaughn on the roster. I don't care how good the other guys look. Hill looks like a great defender, and he can shoot. I don't want him running point for 35 minutes a game just yet.

Remember Vaughn was scheduled to be our 3rd PG when he was brought aboard. It was a combination of Beno's suckiness and Vaughn's hustle, defense and professionalism that tpushed JV up the hierarchy. He's been there ever since.

I hope you all are correct in that Hill looks like he'll be the primary backup. It sounds like he's made great strides since summer league.

[tp2021]

OH MY! thats a poster!
Rajon rondo alley to tony allen, who caught the ball out of the defender's hands and flushed it on him.

[DPG21920]

If Parker's nicked up, I want Vaughn on the roster. I don't care how good the other guys look. Hill looks like a great defender, and he can shoot. I don't want him running point for 35 minutes a game just yet.

I was just messin' with ya. If Parker goes down, it does not matter if Hill or Vaughn in running the point, we are screwed.

[Obstructed_View]

I was just messin' with ya. If Parker goes down, it does not matter if Hill or Vaughn in running the point, we are screwed.

Well I damn sure don't want Udoka running the point. That's for sure.

[DPG21920]

Well I damn sure don't want Udoka running the point. That's for sure.

I would rather have Mason to be honest.

[tav1]

What I love about the various projected rosters is that the Spurs can play Parker off ball and that Manu won't have to be a part time ball handler. That alone will open up the offense.

[ElNono]

Spammer alert on the Pistons forum...

[benefactor]

Watkins and Gaines role is starting to become obvious...keep Oberto and Duncan from playing too many minutes.

Besides Hill, there seem to be no real diamonds in the rough so far. Hairston has good skills both offensively and defensively, but he is probably high level D-League at this point. Tolliver doesn't seem to want the job that Bonner is desperately trying to give him. Farmer has scoring ability but doesn't really feel like a system player and Green will likely be gone after Cleveland. All that said...the positives in Hill basically override everything for me, though it would be nice to have a back up big man prospect.

I was kind of disappointed to see Finley not playing tonight. He played in the last game but since it wasn't televised it's hard to know just how much better he is moving after shedding the extra weight. Hopefully he plays in Cleveland...and its televised.

[Darkwaters]

Watkins and Gaines role is starting to become obvious...keep Oberto and Duncan from playing too many minutes.

Besides Hill, there seem to be no real diamonds in the rough so far. Hairston has good skills both offensively and defensively, but he is probably high level D-League at this point. Tolliver doesn't seem to want the job that Bonner is desperately trying to give him. Farmer has scoring ability but doesn't really feel like a system player and Green will likely be gone after Cleveland. All that said...the positives in Hill basically override everything for me, though it would be nice to have a back up big man prospect.

I was kind of disappointed to see Finley not playing tonight. He played in the last game but since it wasn't televised it's hard to know just how much better he is moving after shedding the extra weight. Hopefully he plays in Cleveland...and its televised.


I think you're pretty well on point here. I like Farmer a lot, but I have doubts about how well he'd belong. Hairston might be the better guy to keep here. Although I disagree about your sentiment with Watkins. I think he is a fringe NBA player right now and with some development might be able to be a 4th or 5th big in the rotation instead of just an IR guy. Regardless of who they choose to keep between Farmer/Hairston/Watkins I'd like to see any of those guys that get discarded to be signed up for the Toros and kept close (a la Marcus Williams) in case we change our minds throughout the season.

[SenorSpur]

the thing about Vaughn..I don't really buy into his "smart veteran" perception..Vaughn has made A LOT of terrible decisions over the years, and he isn't exactly a guy I fully trust as the main PG neither..I just don't see the point in having him on the 12-man roster anymore..he doesn't give us anything that can't replaced..

you're absolutely right that Hill isn't ready to run the PG position yet, but I'd rather have Mason running the point than Vaughn..

I would be happy with this 15(assuming they continue to play well as time goes on)..maybe it's just me though..

PG Parker/Hill/Vaughn..
SG Mason/Ginobili/Finley/Farmer..
SF Bowen/Udoka/Hairston..
PF Duncan/Bonner..
C Thomas/Oberto/Mahinmi..

obviously Farmer and Hairston are hopefuls for me..and I would also hope that Mahinmi can show enough to be considered a backup, and Bonner dropping out of the 12..

Tolliver is kind of irrelevant to me at this point, although I may be selling him short too early..

Here's my projected (desired 15)

PG - Parker/Hill/Vaughn..
SG - Mason/Ginobili/Finley
SF - Bowen/Udoka/Hairston
PF - Duncan/Bonner/Tolliver
C - Thomas/Oberto/Mahinmi

Though I've not seen him play, I like what I hear about Watkins and really feel that his skills could be valuable to the Spurs in a conference full of big frontline players. I would hope they can get tab him for assignment to Austin, until such time as they can rid the roster of Bonner.

[benefactor]

I think you're pretty well on point here. I like Farmer a lot, but I have doubts about how well he'd belong. Hairston might be the better guy to keep here. Although I disagree about your sentiment with Watkins. I think he is a fringe NBA player right now and with some development might be able to be a 4th or 5th big in the rotation instead of just an IR guy. Regardless of who they choose to keep between Farmer/Hairston/Watkins I'd like to see any of those guys that get discarded to be signed up for the Toros and kept close (a la Marcus Williams) in case we change our minds throughout the season.
I don't really dislike Watkins. I actually think that with a little work he might be a decent backup big. But Pop has already forgotten his name in that article and from him getting mostly garbage time tonight I feel like his is just around to spell the other bigs. That something that has always kind of annoyed me about Pop. He seems to make his mind up about a player and not much changes it...whether he thinks the player is good and is not or vice versa.

[Russ]

I don't really dislike Watkins. I actually think that with a little work he might be a decent backup big. But Pop has already forgotten his name in that article.

CIA Pop. Numbers game and we are scrambling the signals.

[Manufan909]

Damn, I wanted Watkins to have a good chance. Looks like Pop already tossed him mentally, hopefully Spurs get some blowouts like someone already said, and Ian shows up big in garbage time.

[Allanon]

PG - Parker/Hill/Vaughn..
SG - Mason/Ginobili/Finley
SF - Bowen/Udoka/Hairston
PF - Duncan/Bonner/Tolliver
C - Thomas/Oberto/Mahinmi


Duncan will play 30-32 minutes a game this year. Can you really handle 10-12 minutes of Bonner/Tolliver? I'd take Watkins/Gaines over Tolliver for more of an inside presence. Sure Tolliver can hit the 3 but man is he streaky.

I don't think Thomas will start because he's a 36 year old big, Pop's gotta save him for when it counts.

The rest looks good. Too bad about Ian,

[Obstructed_View]

I don't really dislike Watkins. I actually think that with a little work he might be a decent backup big. But Pop has already forgotten his name in that article and from him getting mostly garbage time tonight I feel like his is just around to spell the other bigs. That something that has always kind of annoyed me about Pop. He seems to make his mind up about a player and not much changes it...whether he thinks the player is good and is not or vice versa.

I got the same feeling. I like him, but I don't think he has a chance to make the team. Actually I don't mind the idea of returning to Smallball© if all the guys can defend like this group of kids can.

[Manufan909]

I hope Watkins gets the cut over Tolliver, Pop should know that he needs a big athletic guy over a big shooter, but for whatever reason he'll go for Tolliver. The Spurs already have one big throwing up bricks, they don't need another.

[duncan228]

Final: Spurs 86, Pistons 64 (http://blogs.mysanantonio.com/weblogs/spursworld/)

FOURTH QUARTER

Ime Udoka played point guard during the pivotal stretch of the game, Desmon Farmer was an offensive force and the Spurs were drilling 3-pointers as they rolled to an 86-64 preseason road victory over the Detroit Pistons.

Farmer led the Spurs with 13 points. Tim Duncan had 10 points in the first half and sat out the second half.

The Spurs went 10 of 24 from 3-point range. Farmer made 2 of 4. Rookie point guard George Hill, who started, hit 2 of 3 in the first half and sat the second half. Regular point guard Tony Parker got the night off.

The Spurs got off to a slow start to the fourth quarter after leading by 25 points. Devin Green made their first basket of the quarter on a 3-pointer and the Spurs led 75-55.

THIRD QUARTER

Udoka hit three baskets including a 3-pointer in the final minutes of the third quarter and the Spurs finished the period with a 69-46 lead.

The Spurs made a 21-2 run in the quarter. Udoka played point guard most of the quarter and Desmon Farmer is up to 12 points.

Jacque Vaughn, Matt Bonner, Malik Hairston and Farmer scored two points each in an 8-0 run that put the Spurs in front 56-44. Farmer is up to 10 points.

SECOND QUARTER

Duncan nearly recorded a double-double in the first half. He had 10 points and eight rebounds and the Spurs took a 48-35 halftime lead.

The Spurs' George Hill and Farmer had eight points each and Anthony Tolliver had seven. The Spurs were hot from the outside, hitting seven 3-pointers in the half.

Matt Bonner and Farmer hit 3-pointers early in the second quarter as the Spurs extended their lead to 13 points. Farmer's second 3-pointer of the quarter put the Spurs in front 35-21.

FIRST QUARTER

The Spurs clicked even with a hodgepodge starting lineup and substitution rotation to finish the first quarter with a 26-18 lead.

Duncan had six points and Hill and Bruce Bowen had five each.

Bruce Bowen was the third Spurs starter to hit a 3-pointer as they took a 19-8 lead.

Hill and Tolliver hit early 3-pointers as the Spurs jumped out to an 11-0 lead.

PREGAME

Rookie George Hill started at point guard for the Spurs. He took the court with Ime Udoka, Bruce Bowen, Tim Duncan and Anthony Tolliver.

The Spurs' Tony Parker, Michael Finley and Roger Mason Jr. have the night off.

The Spurs take on the Detroit Pistons today at 6 p.m. in a preseason game played in Grand Rapids, Mich.

This game provides some of the new Spurs more playing experience in the Spurs system. For the youngest Spurs players, it's another opportunity to show they belong as a member of the team or are worthy of landing a job somewhere in the league.

[tp2021]

I hope Watkins gets the cut over Tolliver, Pop should know that he needs a big athletic guy over a big shooter, but for whatever reason he'll go for Tolliver. The Spurs already have one big throwing up bricks, they don't need another.

+1

[Manufan909]

Hey, my first +1(or second, I can't remember), YAY!!!:downspin:


Final: Spurs 86, Pistons 64 (http://blogs.mysanantonio.com/weblogs/spursworld/)

FOURTH QUARTER

Ime Udoka played point guard during the pivotal stretch of the game, Desmon Farmer was an offensive force and the Spurs were drilling 3-pointers as they rolled to an 86-64 preseason road victory over the Detroit Pistons.

Farmer led the Spurs with 13 points. Tim Duncan had 10 points in the first half and sat out the second half.

The Spurs went 10 of 24 from 3-point range. Farmer made 2 of 4. Rookie point guard George Hill, who started, hit 2 of 3 in the first half and sat the second half. Regular point guard Tony Parker got the night off.

The Spurs got off to a slow start to the fourth quarter after leading by 25 points. Devin Green made their first basket of the quarter on a 3-pointer and the Spurs led 75-55.

THIRD QUARTER

Udoka hit three baskets including a 3-pointer in the final minutes of the third quarter and the Spurs finished the period with a 69-46 lead.

The Spurs made a 21-2 run in the quarter. Udoka played point guard most of the quarter and Desmon Farmer is up to 12 points.

Jacque Vaughn, Matt Bonner, Malik Hairston and Farmer scored two points each in an 8-0 run that put the Spurs in front 56-44. Farmer is up to 10 points.

SECOND QUARTER

Duncan nearly recorded a double-double in the first half. He had 10 points and eight rebounds and the Spurs took a 48-35 halftime lead.

The Spurs' George Hill and Farmer had eight points each and Anthony Tolliver had seven. The Spurs were hot from the outside, hitting seven 3-pointers in the half.

Matt Bonner and Farmer hit 3-pointers early in the second quarter as the Spurs extended their lead to 13 points. Farmer's second 3-pointer of the quarter put the Spurs in front 35-21.

FIRST QUARTER

The Spurs clicked even with a hodgepodge starting lineup and substitution rotation to finish the first quarter with a 26-18 lead.

Duncan had six points and Hill and Bruce Bowen had five each.

Bruce Bowen was the third Spurs starter to hit a 3-pointer as they took a 19-8 lead.

Hill and Tolliver hit early 3-pointers as the Spurs jumped out to an 11-0 lead.

PREGAME

Rookie George Hill started at point guard for the Spurs. He took the court with Ime Udoka, Bruce Bowen, Tim Duncan and Anthony Tolliver.

The Spurs' Tony Parker, Michael Finley and Roger Mason Jr. have the night off.

The Spurs take on the Detroit Pistons today at 6 p.m. in a preseason game played in Grand Rapids, Mich.

This game provides some of the new Spurs more playing experience in the Spurs system. For the youngest Spurs players, it's another opportunity to show they belong as a member of the team or are worthy of landing a job somewhere in the league.

Does anyone ever wonder why they don't just start with the 1st, instead of in reverse?

[duncan228]

Does anyone ever wonder why they don't just start with the 1st, instead of in reverse?

It's a blog, it's written, and updated, as the game goes on.

[Biggems]

the thing about Vaughn..I don't really buy into his "smart veteran" perception..Vaughn has made A LOT of terrible decisions over the years, and he isn't exactly a guy I fully trust as the main PG neither..I just don't see the point in having him on the 12-man roster anymore..he doesn't give us anything that can't replaced..

you're absolutely right that Hill isn't ready to run the PG position yet, but I'd rather have Mason running the point than Vaughn..

I would be happy with this 15(assuming they continue to play well as time goes on)..maybe it's just me though..

PG Parker/Hill/Vaughn..
SG Mason/Ginobili/Finley/Farmer..
SF Bowen/Udoka/Hairston..
PF Duncan/Bonner..
C Thomas/Oberto/Mahinmi..

obviously Farmer and Hairston are hopefuls for me..and I would also hope that Mahinmi can show enough to be considered a backup, and Bonner dropping out of the 12..

Tolliver is kind of irrelevant to me at this point, although I may be selling him short too early..

Vaughn and Bonner can take a hike......

PG - Parker, Hill, Farmer
SG - Manu, Mason, Finley
SF - Bowen, Udoka, Hairston
PF - Duncan, Mahimni, Tolliver
C - Thomas, Oberto, Watkins

This lineup gives us a great mixture of older, championship tested players and young, athletic, hungry players.

[Manufan909]

It's a blog, it's written, and updated, as the game goes on.

Shit, it wouldn't be a big deal to just go DOWN, and set it up that way. Not trying to get in a fight over nothing, it just makes me want to :bang.

[Ice009]

First half thoughts:

-Duncan looking good. He's not even trying and has 10 and 8 at half :lol

-Hill looked REALLY good to start off the game. He's leveled out a bit but still looks promising. He's already won the backup point guard job.

-Desmon Farmer is a fearless scorer. He might be too small to make it but he's giving it a good try.

-If Tolliver could hit at least 40%, he's going to make the team and probably beat out Bonner for playing time. The problem is his jumper is so shaky that 40% might be asking too much.

-Udoka has sucked in the preseason. I'm not sure what's wrong with him.

-As much as I like Vaughn as a leader, I'm still not convinced whether or not he should or will make the final roster.

Good to hear about Hill. I hope Hill takes that back up poing guard job straight away.

How tall is Farmer? I thought he is 6'5" How come people keep saying he's too small? What is Udoka then???

Also, I've been saying Vaughn should be cut, but people keep saying NO WAY Pop does that. If this keeps up how can you keep him on the roster when you have other promising players that can take his spot? Plus with the addition of Mason that is a another guard that can play back up point for us. I don't see why you would need Vaughn on the team.

[Ice009]

That's interesting. The scoring droughts last year were pretty bad and I'm sure that was a main focus throughout the off-season. So hopefully they will address that, but I'm still not entirely convinced Pop would let JV go, and the Beno situation probably has something to do with that.

Though the beard might be a sign that Pop has loosened up.

There is absolutely no need for Vaughn. he is so bad on offense that at times Pop didn't even want to put him out on the court in the playoffs last season.

If what TiMVP said about Pop wanting a scoring point guard then he has to dump Vaughn and sign Stoudamire. Stoudamire could be a lethal scoring guard for us. Too bad he can't show his stuff because of injury. I'm going to say it right now - If Stoudamire gets healthy and lights it up VAUGHN IS GONE.

[Ice009]

Vaughn and Bonner can take a hike......

PG - Parker, Hill, Farmer
SG - Manu, Mason, Finley
SF - Bowen, Udoka, Hairston
PF - Duncan, Mahimni, Tolliver
C - Thomas, Oberto, Watkins

This lineup gives us a great mixture of older, championship tested players and young, athletic, hungry players.

I really like that lineup.

[tp2021]

Hey, my first +1(or second, I can't remember), YAY!!!
:lol
you're welcome.

[SenorSpur]

Vaughn and Bonner can take a hike......

PG - Parker, Hill, Farmer
SG - Manu, Mason, Finley
SF - Bowen, Udoka, Hairston
PF - Duncan, Mahimni, Tolliver
C - Thomas, Oberto, Watkins

This lineup gives us a great mixture of older, championship tested players and young, athletic, hungry players.

I love that lineup too and would take it in a heartbeat. In fact, it would be an absolute dream roster. However, realistically speaking, there's no way that Pop would ever get rid of Vaughn and Bonner, both of whom are still under contract and have little to no trade value.

[NuGGeTs-FaN]

Hey look at the top 3 defensive teams in the league right now

1. Spurs
2. Pistons
3. Nuggets :smokin

I told you losing Camby would actually be good..........

































:lmao j/k.......i know, i know, it's only preseason

[Bruno]

Hill looked very good. His offensive game still needs some work but I was impressed by him. Let's hope his injury won't be too serious.

Spurs three swingmen were good but not great. Farmer was the best one with his shooting and scoring touch. Hairston and Green also had their moments.

Spurs three bigmen were bad. The only noticeable thing Tolliver do is shooting and he isn't a good shooter. Watkins has a nice body but not a lot of skills in it. Gaines is in quite bad shape.

If Spurs had to cut their roster at 15 today, I would take the 13 guaranteed contracts + Hairston + Stoudamire. I would choose Hairston over Green and Farmer because he isn't significantly worse than them while being a gazillion years younger. Hairston has also the edge of being cheaper.

Anyway, Spurs have still two weeks to maker their choice. Things can and will change.

[Obstructed_View]

So I guess I'm the only person that thinks, based upon the two games I saw against NBA talent, Hairston is a REALLY good defender? I'm going to have to go watch the game again. :)

[Manufan909]

You recorded it? Damn you!!!!!!!

Jk, but how old are Farmer Green and Hairston anyways, I thought they were all early twenties?

EDIT: Did anyone see the coverage that was on ESPN? It showed one Spurs fg(a duncan bank), and then a bunch of Pistons bricks. No actual highlights AT ALL.

[Obstructed_View]

You recorded it? Damn you!!!!!!!

Jk, but how old are Farmer Green and Hairston anyways, I thought they were all early twenties?

EDIT: Did anyone see the coverage that was on ESPN? It showed one Spurs fg(a duncan bank), and then a bunch of Pistons bricks. No actual highlights AT ALL.

The question is, why didn't I record the Houston game.

I've long since given up on any dreams of seeing actual Spurs highlights on ESPN. They only grudgingly cover when the Spurs win the title.

[Bruno]

Jk, but how old are Farmer Green and Hairston anyways, I thought they were all early twenties?


Hairston is 21, Green is 26 and Farmer 27 is years old.
Farmer and Green have also a significant amount of pro basketball experience while Hairston just comes form college basketball.

I think Spurs will keep that in mind when they will decide who to keep.

[DPG21920]

Will there be a link to the game tonight?