Either Vaughn Goes..or I Do!!

[Punkkboy44]

I have been a SPURS fan for 32 years..since they came into the NBA back in 1976...and I am gonna say this..which i have said before..IF J. VAUGHN IS ON THIS TEAM WHEN THE REG SEASON STARTS..I AM NO LONGER A SPURS FAN!!!:ihit

[honestfool84]

go ahead.
leave.

[ElNono]

I have been a SPURS fan for 32 years..since they came into the NBA back in 1976...and I am gonna say this..which i have said before..IF J. VAUGHN IS ON THIS TEAM WHEN THE REG SEASON STARTS..I AM NO LONGER A SPURS FAN!!!:ihit

Good riddance...

[BlackSwordsMan]

good bye

[jcrod]

Bye T-Park...errr whatever

[Flight3107]

I have been a SPURS fan for 32 years..since they came into the NBA back in 1976...and I am gonna say this..which i have said before..IF J. VAUGHN IS ON THIS TEAM WHEN THE REG SEASON STARTS..I AM NO LONGER A SPURS FAN!!!:ihit

http://www.roadfood.com/photos/7635.jpg

[tp2021]

Goodbye.

[HORNSWOGGLE]

go ahead.
leave.
yeah u could go ahead and leave, i dont think it will afftect the spurs to much

[timtonymanu]

Good. then leave.

[Tully365]

Earlier in the evening, to a co-worker:

If my wife doesn't have macaroni and cheese with sliced hot dogs on the table when I get home, I will immediately call my lawyer and tell him to file divorce papers!!! I'll do it, I swear!!

[SenorSpur]

I have been a SPURS fan for 32 years..since they came into the NBA back in 1976...and I am gonna say this..which i have said before..IF J. VAUGHN IS ON THIS TEAM WHEN THE REG SEASON STARTS..I AM NO LONGER A SPURS FAN!!!:ihit

So you survived the tenures of Vinny Da Black, Lloyd Daniels and Zarko Paspaji, but you're ready to jump ship because of JV. :lol

[T Park]

Jacque Vaughn is not a legit reason to give up on this team.

[Flux451]

A little harsh for leaving. but I feel like they need to get rid of vaughn and add someone new. They don't need insurance anymore, they need balls!

a middle finger to the mavericks fan to, especially for his obama parody.

[barbacoataco]

Vaughn is cheap and a good 3rd string PG. The Spurs can sign Hairston and still keep Vaughn. But if they got rid of him I wouldn't really mind.

[m33p0]

leave. it's cheaper for the Spurs.

[Obstructed_View]

http://www.videodetective.com/photos/065/002745_16.jpg
You're too stupid to be a Spurs fan!

[Slomo]

"It's *leave*, you idiot! "Make like a tree, and leave." You sound like a damn fool when you say it wrong."

Biff in Back to the future II

[my2sons]

Don't let the door hit ya where the good...yadda yadda yadda

[I. Hustle]

Holla

[Taco]

http://www.videodetective.com/photos/065/002745_16.jpg
You're too stupid to be a Spurs fan!

:lol

[bigfan]

Amf

[kobyz]

Vaughn is a solid third PG

[Mixability]

Jacque Vaughn is not a legit reason to give up on this team.


But the new PA guy is?

:lol

[JamStone]

If you've said it before, then why are you still a Spurs fan?

[WildcardManu]

"It's *leave*, you idiot! "Make like a tree, and leave." You sound like a damn fool when you say it wrong."

Biff in Back to the future II

:lol i was just watching that movie last night.

[GaryJohnston]

GTFO then

[Solid D]

Either Vaughn Goes..or I Do!!

Based on your 69 prior posts in this forum, I would suggest a change in your title line from "Believe" to "I Hate Vaughn..what's the question, again?"

Vaughn is a coach on the floor and a mature voice in the room. Scoring points is only part of basketball and scoring is not JV's role. If you have truly been watching the Spurs for 32 years, why don't you already know that?

Punkkboy44, based on your body of work (after clicking on your name & viewing many of your previous posts) you don't have very many positive things to say, so I guess if you left, it would probably have the impact of removing a bloody finger from a public swimming pool.

[Red Hawk #21]

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[K-State Spur]

i like to let 3rd string PGs affect my allegiances as well.

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

I wonder if the OP is actually JV and just looking for positive reinforcement from this thread.

[angel_luv]

, so I guess if you left, it would probably have the impact of removing a bloody finger from a public swimming pool.

Awesome analogy.

[Hank Hill]

Punkkboy44I have been a SPURS fan for 32 years..since they came into the NBA back in 1976...and I am gonna say this..which i have said before..IF J. VAUGHN IS ON THIS TEAM WHEN THE REG SEASON STARTS..I AM NO LONGER A SPURS FAN!!!:ihit

That Boy Ain't right :nope

I guess you're just living up to your name

:flag::flag::flag:

[hater]

I have been a SPURS fan for 32 years..since they came into the NBA back in 1976...and I am gonna say this..which i have said before..IF J. VAUGHN IS ON THIS TEAM WHEN THE REG SEASON STARTS..I AM NO LONGER A SPURS FAN!!!:ihit

switch the name from Vaughn to Bonner and I might agree. Otherwise bye bye

[Hank Hill]

click here to hear Peggy get mad at me
http://www.dailywav.com/1101/biggestshoppingday.wav

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

...

[JudynTX]

One less bandwagon fan to worry about.

[T Park]

Yay I found you again and am Stalking again!!!

[The Truth #6]

Yeah, his ultimatum is ridiculous but his general point is correct - Vaughn should probably go.

Carrying a 3rd string point guard when we're in desperate need of scoring, and with Mason around to fill in as a 3rd stringer, does not make much sense. Vaughn's contributions are overrated as is the insurance he provides.

In fact, even if Hill did go out for a while with injury, having Mason as the backup would then allow us to get another scorer in the lineup, perhaps someone like Farmer.

Farmer might be a headcase but at the same time he seems competitive, confident, and perhaps just dumb enough to not get flustered while acclimating to the System.

Unfortunately, this preseason seems like a bit of a show because I can't see Pop getting rid of Vaughn, nor can I see any team (except Toronto) wanting to take a shot with Bonner, which even if that were the case involves trading for a player we probably have no room for.

And, given Pop's pursuit of Salim, and the supposed front loaded contract they gave him, and his previous experience in the league, it seems unlikely that Salim won't make the team.

Of course, things could change...

[Mixability]

Yay! I stopped ordering family meals for myself and can finally see my d**k again(barely)

[koriwhat]

people who claim to be "bolting" are nothing more then.... attention seekers. if you wanna bolt then bolt, but claiming you gonna do so is pointless because no one gives a fuck whether you're a fan or not. you don't have to publicize it, instead just do it!

[T Park]

:lol

Danyo,

get help, seriously.

[xtremesteven33]

na Na Na Na, Na Na Na Na...hey Hey Hey, Good Bye

[manufor3]

yeah u could go ahead and leave, i dont think it will afftect the spurs to much


Good. then leave.

[cherylsteele]

So you survived the tenures of Vinny Da Black, Lloyd Daniels and Zarko Paspaji, but you're ready to jump ship because of JV. :lol
Add to that:
Walter Berry
Johnny Dawkins
Alvin Robertson
Bob Weiss
Morris McHone
Alfredric Hughes
Seasons in the 80's winning 28 and 21 games?
You're jumping now? May I be the one allowed to push you of the wagon?

[jack sommerset]

32 years is along time cheering for the Spews. It might be good for you. I say go for it.

[AC#21_TD ERA]

The time has come for JV to go. I can’t deal with him anymore.:bang:bang He brings nothing to the table. Who would want to listen to him any way from a leadership ponit of view? You have to earn your respect first to be heard and J.V has done nothing to earn it. Spurs players will just laugh in his face.

He keeps holding back our talent like Udrigh, Washington, and Stoudemire. Beno was playing decent untill JV arrived. If Pop stuck by Beno, Washington and Stoudamire like he does with Vaughn we wouldn’t be searching for back up PG left right and center. JV time is up. Sign Salim and just waive JV, an injured Salim any day over JV.

[Chris]

Vaughn is all heart and hustle. He's our new Malik.


Vaughn is a coach on the floor and a mature voice in the room. Scoring points is only part of basketball and scoring is not JV's role.

QFT

[SequSpur]

I agree, Vaughn is kind've shitty.

[The Truth #6]

Add to that:
Walter Berry
Johnny Dawkins
Alvin Robertson
Bob Weiss
Morris McHone
Alfredric Hughes
Seasons in the 80's winning 28 and 21 games?
You're jumping now? May I be the one allowed to push you of the wagon?

I don't know why you would include Walter Berry and Alvin Robertson on that list. Those guys were players, albeit briefly. Could I instead suggest Kurt Nimphius, Ennis Whatley, Jon Sunvold, and Uwe Blab?

[Punkkboy44]

Wow..nice response to my thread...which one of u guys is the president of the J. Vaughn FAN CLUB? Ohh..I forgot..POP IS... A little info on me..it is true ..I do post negative things mostly..I am a fan who is only happy when the Spurs win by 20 or more..I used to play playground basketball way back in the day with former Spur Will Purdue...I became a fan listening to WOAI..their strong nightime signal carries all the way to here in Florida..I loved former Spurs announcer Terry Stembridge..BEST TEAM ANNOUNCER IN ANY SPORT EVER..loved the Spurs high scoring...convinced the NBA would not allow a former ABA team win a title..bitterly disappointed by Spurs playoff failures in the late 70's and early 80's..loved George Gervin and Larry Kenon..almost jumped ship when Kevin(Big Bird) Restani was the token white 12th man...liked him as much as I like Vaughn...rejoiced when the Spurs won the first title in '99...would love to see more scoring this year..BIG FAN already of G. HILL...

[Punkkboy44]

By the way SOLID D..that WAS my bloody finger..I cut it off when Manu fouled Dirk...when Dandridge hit that jumper...when Fisher hit that shot..and every time the Spurs lost by 1...

[SequSpur]

Subjective: If Jacque Vaughn is a Spur, I am jumping off a cliff

Objective: Jacque Vaughn Sucks

Assessment: Jacque Vaughn Sucks

Plan: Hornets! Here I come! :lmao

[cherylsteele]

I don't know why you would include Walter Berry and Alvin Robertson on that list. Those guys were players, albeit briefly. Could I instead suggest Kurt Nimphius, Ennis Whatley, Jon Sunvold, and Uwe Blab?
Yes they were good players, because the teams they played were barely a team.
If the thread starter is gonna dart now when they are a winning team,
how did he make it through the late 80's when the above were playing here and they really stunk. They didn't really deseve to be in the playoffs those years when they did make them.


BTW....I never said I like Vaughn. My point is why leave now and not in the 80's?

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

I have been a SPURS fan for 32 years..since they came into the NBA back in 1976...and I am gonna say this..which i have said before..IF J. VAUGHN IS ON THIS TEAM WHEN THE REG SEASON STARTS..I AM NO LONGER A SPURS FAN!!!:ihit

Bye bye, moron. :rolleyes

[lefty]

As D'Antoni would say : " Go go go !!!"

[Punkkboy44]

AC #21..U r so right...glad u see things the way I do..and not blindly worship every Spurs player like others on here...

[Obstructed_View]

AC #21..U r so right...glad u see things the way I do..and not blindly worship every Spurs player like others on here...

Yeah, blind hatred is so much better. :lol

[mrspurs]

Thats what this place is for, typing what you think, when you think it, and how you think it. If you feel like JV is the man whos gonna keep ya from cheering or booing the spurs, then its your right and I for one will not say anything to keep ya from doing whatever it is your gonna do. I will give you this advice. Keep your ignore list somewhere around in the mid 120's and you'll keep yourself from wasting time with the playbabies and cheerleaders. There are some good people in here and there are some real bad ones.

[Punkkboy44]

Thanx 4 the advice MRSPURS..but 1 more comment to u OBSTRUCTED..I am not blind..but I did use a magnifying glass to view Vaughns career stats..2.1 career PPG in the playoffs on 34% FG pct..on second thought...OMG!!! He sucks worse than I thought!

[ChumpDumper]

Eh, at most you'll change your screen name.

[mathbzh]

Please close the door after you.

[SenorSpur]

Add to that:
Walter Berry
Johnny Dawkins
Alvin Robertson
Bob Weiss
Morris McHone
Alfredric Hughes
Seasons in the 80's winning 28 and 21 games?
You're jumping now? May I be the one allowed to push you of the wagon?

Yeah, I wouldn't never have put JD, Walter Berry and certainly not Alvin Robertson on that list. Offcourt issues aside, Roberston was truly one of the great players in Spurs history. A top 10, in my opinion. But we've already had that debate over the long summer and I've already exhaused myself making that case.

[SenorSpur]

Yes they were good players, because the teams they played were barely a team.
If the thread starter is gonna dart now when they are a winning team,
how did he make it through the late 80's when the above were playing here and they really stunk. They didn't really deseve to be in the playoffs those years when they did make them.


BTW....I never said I like Vaughn. My point is why leave now and not in the 80's?

:toast

[benefactor]

Eh, at most you'll change your screen name.
Probably a good idea. He has basically lost all credibility under that one...like he ever had any claiming to be a 3 decade Spurs fan with a name like Punkkboy44.

[Avitus1]

I have been a SPURS fan for 32 years..since they came into the NBA back in 1976...and I am gonna say this..which i have said before..IF J. VAUGHN IS ON THIS TEAM WHEN THE REG SEASON STARTS..I AM NO LONGER A SPURS FAN!!!:ihit

http://www.funnybeez.com/funnypictures/goodbye-cruel-world.jpg

[benefactor]

On the subject of Vaughn himself...I think we have no choice but to keep him to start the season. I love Hill as much as the next guy, but he is still a rookie and is still developing. People who want to throw all their chips in on a rookie and a streak shooter that plays no defense to spell Parker need to be a little more objective about the situation. Vaughn needs to be there for a backup plan in case there are any unforeseen issues with Hill as the season starts. I don't think that will happen...but remember...all we have seen is the Summer League and a few preseason games. If he is coming along well after the first 15 games then I think its fine to start talking about either moving Vaughn out or to more of a Dallas/Avery Johnson role where he is doing more coaching than playing.

[Punkkboy44]

Vaughn might have changed my opinion tonite..he scored 2 points..ummmm..NO!!!! Anyway..I grew up on punk rock music u guys...punk...44..Gervins old number..boy..I still feel young..ok losers????

[anakha]

http://img01.picoodle.com/img/img01/3/10/16/f_attentionwhm_0cd6da2.jpg (http://www.picoodle.com/view.php?img=/3/10/16/f_attentionwhm_0cd6da2.jpg&srv=img01)

[Solid D]

http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/01tbbOLcau2cH/610x.jpg
You still here, Punkboy?

[T Park]

Vaughn might have changed my opinion tonite..he scored 2 points..ummmm..NO!!!! Anyway..I grew up on punk rock music u guys...punk...44..Gervins old number..boy..I still feel young..ok losers????

So you judge him on a meaningless preseason game?

Genius...

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

Vaughn might have changed my opinion tonite..he scored 2 points..ummmm..NO!!!! Anyway..I grew up on punk rock music u guys...punk...44..Gervins old number..boy..I still feel young..ok losers????

I can break down your comment and tell what's wrong with everything in it, but it's easier to say you're a jackass.

[Punkkboy44]

Dude..I previously stated his pathetic career playoff stats..this preseason game is basically his career in a nutshell...ohh shit..I FORGOT HIS LEADERSHIP qualities..MY BAD!

[Mister Sinister]

Dude..I previously stated his pathetic career playoff stats..this preseason game is basically his career in a nutshell...ohh shit..I FORGOT HIS LEADERSHIP qualities..MY BAD!
I'd cue up the DVD Rewinder motivator for your bullshit and jackassery, but I think it'd offend the motivator.

[Solid D]

Interesting that JV, in a non-scoring role, is criticized. Few notice that, for instance, versus the Cavaliers Thursday:

*In JV's first stint, the Spurs trailed by 6 when Jacque entered the game but were up by 1 when he went to the bench.
* In JV's second shift, the Spurs were up 5 and when Jacque went out, they were up 12.
* and in JV's 3rd segment of floor time, the Spurs were up 14 and he left as Green sunk a couple of FTs to go up 16 points on the Cavs.

A steady floor leader can be an enabler...regardless of the stats. That's all I'm saying.

[T Park]

Interesting that JV, in a non-scoring role, is criticized. Few notice that, for instance, versus the Cavaliers Thursday:

*In JV's first stint, the Spurs trailed by 6 when Jacque entered the game but were up by 1 when he went to the bench.
* In JV's second shift, the Spurs were up 5 and when Jacque went out, they were up 12.
* and in JV's 3rd segment of floor time, the Spurs were up 14 and he left as Green sunk a couple of FTs to go up 16 points on the Cavs.

A steady floor leader can be an enabler...regardless of the stats. That's all I'm saying.

Agreed as always.

One just has to look to his solid leadership and his great role in that 07 championship why hes still a Spur.

[Whisky Dog]

Vaughn is a good situational guy to keep around because of his extremely low price tag. He's a good option against certain teams who have point guards that he can keep up with. Not a good option against the likes of Chris Paul, but he has his favorable matchups.

[SequSpur]

Interesting that JV, in a non-scoring role, is criticized. Few notice that, for instance, versus the Cavaliers Thursday:

*In JV's first stint, the Spurs trailed by 6 when Jacque entered the game but were up by 1 when he went to the bench.
* In JV's second shift, the Spurs were up 5 and when Jacque went out, they were up 12.
* and in JV's 3rd segment of floor time, the Spurs were up 14 and he left as Green sunk a couple of FTs to go up 16 points on the Cavs.

A steady floor leader can be an enabler...regardless of the stats. That's all I'm saying.

Preseason, Cavaliers, Gay.

[Taco]

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[MoSpur]

But the new PA guy is?

:lol

:lmao

[Solid D]

Interesting that JV, in a non-scoring role, is criticized. Few notice that, for instance, versus the Cavaliers Thursday:

*In JV's first stint, the Spurs trailed by 6 when Jacque entered the game but were up by 1 when he went to the bench.
* In JV's second shift, the Spurs were up 5 and when Jacque went out, they were up 12.
* and in JV's 3rd segment of floor time, the Spurs were up 14 and he left as Green sunk a couple of FTs to go up 16 points on the Cavs.

A steady floor leader can be an enabler...regardless of the stats. That's all I'm saying.


Preseason, Cavaliers, Gay.

I'm warming up for the season and chose this lame, senseless thread to do it. Your post is simply a superset of ideas and analysis of what you typically demonstrate here throughout the season. Good talk, as usual.

[Fingaroll44]

Probably a good idea. He has basically lost all credibility under that one...like he ever had any claiming to be a 3 decade Spurs fan with a name like Punkkboy44.

Yea. He would have a screen name, similar to mine, that actually PASSES the 3 decade fandom test. :D

[The Truth #6]

I hope we all agree that Hill should get all of the backup minutes when healthy until he proves he doesn't deserve them.

[MrChug]

Bye, just make sure your Mom stays.

We still need her as the lead ST ball drainer.

[The Franchise]

Peace out!!

[manufor3]

see ya punk

[Biernutz]

If the Spurs charge $7 for a beer i'm gone.--------

http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb270/systime/Gifffs1234/575.gif

[Punkkboy44]

I see Vaughn sat out tonights win over the Pacers...I would have too after last games performance.

[BlackSwordsMan]

Thanx 4 the advice MRSPURS..but 1 more comment to u OBSTRUCTED..I am not blind..but I did use a magnifying glass to view Vaughns career stats..2.1 career PPG in the playoffs on 34% FG pct..on second thought...OMG!!! He sucks worse than I thought!

:rollin

[my2sons]

R U Still Here?????????

[yavozerb]

It looks as if the Magic will try to sign a third point guard cut free by another team, but they apparently are not interested in Dan Dickau, who was waived Sunday by the Golden State Warriors. Magic Assistant General Manager Dave Twardzik said Monday that the Magic are content to wait until other teams pare down their NBA rosters before adding another guard. The club is looking for a point guard after losing Mike Wilks to a season-ending knee injury Thursday against the Bobcats in Charlotte, N.C. Starter Jameer Nelson and his back-up, Anthony Johnson, are the only point guards on the roster.

Orlando Sentinel

JV for Foyle..both have 1 year on contracts and both make 1.2 mil. Spurs could use another bigman and that would open at least some PT fo the youger guards. This would be a win-win for both teams!!

[mountainballer]

JV for Foyle..both have 1 year on contracts and both make 1.2 mil. Spurs could use another bigman and that would open at least some PT fo the youger guards. This would be a win-win for both teams!!

Foyle can't be traded until dec. 15th and he also has a veto clause in his contract.


but Magic is still a good guess, if the Spurs wanted to cut JV. the Magic have a trade exception they could use. JV wouldn't be a bad solution for them, considering how slow Johnson is and that there will be match ups when Magic just need a quicker defender.

[WildcardManu]

Vaughn might have changed my opinion tonite..he scored 2 points..ummmm..NO!!!! Anyway..I grew up on punk rock music u guys...punk...44..Gervins old number..boy..I still feel young..ok losers????

For a guy stating he's old as dirt, you seem to have the mentality of a middle school punk rocker.