Turn out the lights, the party's over.

[2centsworth]

Obama will be the next president of the United States of America.

[George Gervin's Afro]

Obama will be the next president of the United States of America.

But whott predicted a McCain landslide. McCain would reach 300 electoral votes..Whott s the smartest guy in the room..:rollin

[JoeChalupa]

Don't be so sure. This isn't over by a long....dare I say it....shot.

[Nbadan]

Less than 3 weeks, it's looking good for Obama...

[Kriz-Maxima]

I'll believe it when i see it.

[Nbadan]

Obama just has to stay the course and win either Florida, Ohio, or Nevada and Colorado...

[cool hand]

yeah Obama wins this election and like it or not the country is going to socialize a bit.........see FDR, Great Depression, etc, etc.

[Nbadan]

...so the country isn't more socialistic under Dubya with the government buying into banks, insurance companies and brokerage houses? Get real...

[cool hand]

...so the country isn't more socialistic under Dubya with the government buying into banks, insurance companies and brokerage houses? Get real...

we are fascist at the present time....we will go socialist in the near future.

you can't see the forest cuz the bird shit is in your eyes.

[Nbadan]

...and you don't know enough to realize that fascism and socialism are at opposite ends of the political spectrum....

[Anti.Hero]

Trickle-up Poverty.

[cool hand]

...and you don't know enough to realize that fascism and socialism are at opposite ends of the political spectrum....


ok let me teach you something stupid, dumbfuck idiot.

neocons=fascists
democrats=socialists

what don't I understand fuck face.

[cool hand]

NBADAN you better becareful who you are trying to lecture cuz I'll beat your ass down.....my IQ is way too high for mental midgets to engage.

[Anti.Hero]

I think you mean little people.

[cool hand]

oh yeah, sorry.

[Kori Ellis]

NBADAN you better becareful who you are trying to lecture cuz I'll beat your ass down.....my IQ is way too high for mental midgets to engage.

You need to improve on your delivery if you are actually smart because you come across on the forum as the opposite.

[InRareForm]

Na Na Na Na Na, Na, Na, Hey, Hey, GOOOODBYEEEEEE

http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo244/Spurs19992003/Presidentodds-2.jpg

[cool hand]

damn those are pretty long odds for mccain.....if I was a betting man I may lay $100 on mccain JUST IN CASE. @ 26/5 it sure looks good.......they need to offer points(electoral votes).

[cool hand]

You need to improve on your delivery if you are actually smart because you come across on the forum as the opposite.
sorry Kori, I think the word you are looking for is arrogant.....cuz stupid I am not......and you know it. if you have any doubt just read what I write, go to the library and confirm it. you will see I am right. sorry, but being right all the time is such a burden.

[Kori Ellis]

sorry Kori, I think the word you are looking for is arrogant.....cuz stupid I am not......and you know it. if you have any doubt just read what I write, go to the library and confirm it. you will see I am right. sorry, but being right all the time is such a burden.

http://spurstalk.com/forums/search.php?searchid=974762

Yeah these threads are real gems :rolleyes

You don't come across as arrogant. You come across as dumb. A big part of that might be how your repeat the same crap over and over, don't know how to capitalize, and make up lame little nicknames for McCain. No one can take anything you say seriously, because you don't show any substance.

[cool hand]

you just need to open your mind or rise above partisan bullshit and then see the light.

[CubanMustGo]

http://spurstalk.com/forums/search.php?searchid=974762

Yeah these threads are real gems :rolleyes

You don't come across as arrogant. You come across as dumb. A big part of that might be how your repeat the same crap over and over, don't know how to capitalize, and make up lame little nicknames for McCain. No one can take anything you say seriously, because you don't show any substance.

Oh, snap!!

[cool hand]

oh, and captializing is not essential, when the bigger picture is to make people think.

[BRHornet45]

http://spurstalk.com/forums/search.php?searchid=974762

Yeah these threads are real gems :rolleyes

You don't come across as arrogant. You come across as dumb. A big part of that might be how your repeat the same crap over and over, don't know how to capitalize, and make up lame little nicknames for McCain. No one can take anything you say seriously, because you don't show any substance.

my lady kori how are you tonight? hope all is well angel eyes ;)

[cool hand]

BR, I just can't say enough about that woman......got any other pics of her?

[MannyIsGod]

:lol

Cool Hand claiming he's smart is like WC claiming he's in the 99.95985048509480 Percentile.

[cool hand]

my IQ is really nothing to make fun of. I hold the truth......all you have to do is listen.

[Nbadan]

:lol

Cool Hand claiming he's smart is like WC claiming he's in the 99.95985048509480 Percentile.

his arrogance makes him think that 99.95985048509480 of people think like him...so he may have a point...

[TheMadHatter]

my IQ is really nothing to make fun of. I hold the truth......all you have to do is listen.

when are we going to start the revolution?

[Nbadan]

when are we going to start the revolution?

...after another bong hit and a 30 hour marathon on his Xbox probably

[cool hand]

my lady kori how are you tonight? hope all is well angel eyes ;)

http://bp3.blogger.com/_2b4ejYCe5mE/R2njGfwjLUI/AAAAAAAAAmo/5xeOr7FP82M/s400/Mickie.James.jpg

[BRHornet45]

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thickie Mickie!

[2centsworth]

But whott predicted a McCain landslide. McCain would reach 300 electoral votes..Whott s the smartest guy in the room..:rollin

I believe Whottt said all of that before the economic collapse. Without the economic collapse McCain probably wins.

[jochhejaam]

Latest Gallup;

GALLUP's 'traditional' likely voter model shows Obama with a two-point advantage over McCain on Thursday, 49% to 47%, this is within poll's margin of error... Developing...

And the latest Rasmussen has it at Obama +4, the closest it's been there since September 26th.
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_20082/2008_presidential_election/general_election_match_up_history

[BRHornet45]

Latest Gallup;

GALLUP's 'traditional' likely voter model shows Obama with a two-point advantage over McCain on Thursday, 49% to 47%, this is within poll's margin of error... Developing...

And the latest Rasmussen has it at Obama +4, the closest it's been there since September 26th.
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_20082/2008_presidential_election/general_election_match_up_history

Lord Barack is going down ... just wait

[ChumpDumper]

Why does Drudge always say something is developing when it is either already fully developed or never further reported by Drudge?

[2centsworth]

There is 1 min left in this game and McCain is down by 17 points, so I guess technically there's still a chance.

[Findog]

hahahahahahaha

Gallup's "traditional" model assumes 2004 turnout and electorate demographics.

Try again, Palintards.

[2centsworth]

hahahahahahaha

Gallup's "traditional" model assumes 2004 turnout and electorate demographics.

Try again, Palintards.

is ACORN the difference? I do agree your team is gonna win.

[smeagol]

my IQ is really nothing to make fun of. I hold the truth......all you have to do is listen.

Are you a whottt troll?

[Nbadan]

'traditional' likely voter model

Traditional!?! :lol

That mean old coots!

[sook]

whottt is a douche bag, why on earth would you take that guy seriously?

[boutons_]

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Political scientists give Obama 80% chance of victory
10/16/2008 @ 1:46 pm

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Models predicted Bush win in '04

Even before the current economic turmoil steered more voters towards Barack Obama, political scientists were predicting the Democratic candidate would win the presidency.

Election forecasts completed this year give Obama an 80 percent chance of victory. Just one of nine forecast models being published this month predicts John McCain will win, and that model relies heavily on poll results inflated by the substantial bounce that running mate Sarah Palin briefly provided the Republican ticket.

Between January and September, political scientists began comparing statistics including economic data, the candidate's poll numbers, President Bush's approval ratings and other figures to create statistical models aimed at forecasting the 2008 election results. Nine models are being published this month in the journal of the American Political Science Association (https://www.apsanet.org/content_58382.cfm).

Of the nine models, six predict an Obama victory, with three of those predicting a landslide. Another two are too close to call. The models also weigh the probability of their predicted outcomes; the median result predicts an 80 percent chance Obama will win.

The same journal published similar models (http://www.apsanet.org/content_13000.cfm) before the 2004 election. Six of seven forecasts predicted President Bush would win (the seventh predicted Bush would receive 49.9 percent of the vote).

Statistician Nate Silver, who blogs at FiveThirtyEight.com (http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/), predicts a 95 percent chance Obama will win, and the political exchange market Intrade (http://www.intrade.com/) puts Obama's chances above 85 percent.

The earliest of the predictions to be published in the political science journal, from January 2008, was based on the degree of support for each of the candidates in early primaries, and showed a too-close-to-call result, with of 50.1% of the popular vote goting to Obama and 49.9% to McCain.

Five predictions from last summer basically treated the election as a referendum on both President Bush and the state of the economy. Four of those showed Obama winning comfortably with anything between 52.2% and 58.2% of the popular vote.

The fifth came up with a raw figure of 56.57% for Obama but then lowered it to a virtual tie to reflect the impact of race on voters' preferences.

Two other predictions from July and August, which used more complex statistical models based on federal and state factors, also predicted an Obama victory with 52% or 53% of the vote.

The only prediction of a McCain victory came in September and combined second-quarter economic figures with the Gallup Poll numbers from Labor Day -- which was the scheduled first day of the Republican National Convention and just three days after McCain's attention-getting announcement of Sarah Palin as his running-mate. It showed McCain gaining 52.7% of the popular vote.


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HUSSEIN today warning against complacency.

[InRareForm]

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Political scientists give Obama 80% chance of victory
10/16/2008 @ 1:46 pm

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which is basically the equivalent of what the gambling oddsmakers made it at. 1 to 5.

[JoeChalupa]

The polls are tightening. Still plenty of time left.

[JoeChalupa]

Gallup poll shows Obama 49% and McCain at 47%.
Here comes the Palin/McCain surge. Obama gave them an opening and it could just be the one they've been waiting for. Joe the Plumber is now the leader of the Palin/McCain campaign and they are going to ride it to the end.
I've always said that Obama has a much tougher climb.

[JoeChalupa]

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[florige]

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Not to take a page out of Whottts book or anything, but I;m starting to wonder about these polls. I remember the same thing happening here in MD with our gubernatorial election 2 years ago. The incumbent was a Republican and prior to the actual election day he had been trailing in the polls by 10 or more points the entire time, then all of the sudden like one day before the election the polls said that it was tied. The incumbent wound up losing by 7-8 points. I just find it strange that 2 weeks before the election all of the sudden the polls are tightening again. And because of this Joe the Plumber schmuck..... Please.....:rolleyes

[florige]

Those numbers were actualy taken before the debate too.

[JoeChalupa]

Not to take a page out of Whottts book or anything, but I;m starting to wonder about these polls. I remember the same thing happening here in MD with our gubernatorial election 2 years ago. The incumbent was a Republican and prior to the actual election day he had been trailing in the polls by 10 or more points the entire time, then all of the sudden like one day before the election the polls said that it was tied. The incumbent wound up losing by 7-8 points. I just find it strange that 2 weeks before the election all of the sudden the polls are tightening again. And because of this Joe the Plumber schmuck..... Please.....:rolleyes

In all honesty I've never believed the polls showing Obama leading. As much as I hope and pray I still think there are too many people saying one thing but will do another once they are in the voting booth. I still say it will be a shocker if Obama wins.

[florige]

In all honesty I've never believed the polls showing Obama leading. As much as I hope and pray I still think there are too many people saying one thing but will do another once they are in the voting booth. I still say it will be a shocker if Obama wins.



I kinda went with them because the lead was starting to get so overwhelming. The poll system would be more of a joke if Obama was up 10-12 points and still managed to lose the election. I guess the media would just blame it on the Bradley effect. But if Obama were to lose I think it would be safe to rename it the "Obama effect" from here on out....

[florige]

Like this poll.....

http://politicalwire.com/archives/2008/10/17/obama_expands_lead_in_tracking_poll.html


Has Obama up 10 points.

[florige]

I will be truly shocked if this race isn't a virtual tie come Nov 3rd... Shocked as in....:wow

[101A]

If Obama loses it is because he is running a traditional/left campaign. Class warfare, etc...it is a failed model. Republican have won 9/14 elections post Truman...and only a single Democrat has won reelection. Clinton never won election with 50% of the vote.

We are a conservative country, ultimately. Hell, look at Joe the Plumber; HE WILL get more of a tax break with Obama; but he doesn't care. His vote isn't for sale; it's ideological.

That said, I still predict that economic factors are SO overwhelming that the "party in power" is doomed. If the race is tightening, Obama will go on attack again, and the margin will spread.

The wild card in this that no one seems to be talking about are gas prices. People vote pocket book, and at the beginning of November, many Americans are going to have a little more cash at that point simply because fuel is down, what, 35% from a couple of months ago? It could matter.

[JoeChalupa]

If Obama loses it is because he is running a traditional/left campaign. Class warfare, etc...it is a failed model. Republican have won 9/14 elections post Truman...and only a single Democrat has won reelection. Clinton never won election with 50% of the vote.

We are a conservative country, ultimately. Hell, look at Joe the Plumber; HE WILL get more of a tax break with Obama; but he doesn't care. His vote isn't for sale; it's ideological.

That said, I still predict that economic factors are SO overwhelming that the "party in power" is doomed. If the race is tightening, Obama will go on attack again, and the margin will spread.

The wild card in this that no one seems to be talking about are gas prices. People vote pocket book, and at the beginning of November, many Americans are going to have a little more cash at that point simply because fuel is down, what, 35% from a couple of months ago? It could matter.

I agree to a point. Conservatism up to a point. Hell, I run a very conservative home but have progressive views on things. While I don't like guns in my home I respect the rights of other to do so. While I respect the sanctity of marriage I also respect the rights of those in same sex relationships. While I'm personally against abortion I respect a woman's right to choose. If you hung around my house you'd swear I was a conservative and I am..just a progressive conservative.
Whether we want to admit it or not, race is a factor for many who simply can't get past their fears and doubts.

[Findog]

is ACORN the difference? I do agree your team is gonna win.

:lmao at how registration fraud perpetuated AGAINST ACORN is part of a massive voter fraud conspiracy.

[Findog]

Gallup poll shows Obama 49% and McCain at 47%.
Here comes the Palin/McCain surge. Obama gave them an opening and it could just be the one they've been waiting for. Joe the Plumber is now the leader of the Palin/McCain campaign and they are going to ride it to the end.
I've always said that Obama has a much tougher climb.

They're using the "traditional" LV model, which is based on 2004 turnout results and demographics. It's based on trends that no longer exist.

Jesus

http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/2008/10/todays-polls-1016.html

[101A]

I agree to a point. Conservatism up to a point. Hell, I run a very conservative home but have progressive views on things. While I don't like guns in my home I respect the rights of other to do so. While I respect the sanctity of marriage I also respect the rights of those in same sex relationships. While I'm personally against abortion I respect a woman's right to choose. If you hung around my house you'd swear I was a conservative and I am..just a progressive conservative.
Whether we want to admit it or not, race is a factor for many who simply can't get past their fears and doubts.


Those are all social issues; Americans are also, generally, more Conservative on economic issues. The answer to "do you want a bigger, or smaller Federal Govt." still produces "smaller" as an answer by more than 50% of the population.

[ratm1221]

If Obama loses it is because he is running a traditional/left campaign. Class warfare, etc...it is a failed model. Republican have won 9/14 elections post Truman...and only a single Democrat has won reelection. Clinton never won election with 50% of the vote.

We are a conservative country, ultimately. Hell, look at Joe the Plumber; HE WILL get more of a tax break with Obama; but he doesn't care. His vote isn't for sale; it's ideological.

That said, I still predict that economic factors are SO overwhelming that the "party in power" is doomed. If the race is tightening, Obama will go on attack again, and the margin will spread.

The wild card in this that no one seems to be talking about are gas prices. People vote pocket book, and at the beginning of November, many Americans are going to have a little more cash at that point simply because fuel is down, what, 35% from a couple of months ago? It could matter.

Republican ideology is horrible. Every time a repug is in office the economy plummets. 80's sucked balls and the 2000's sucked balls. People are just too stupid to see it. They are blinded by issues like abortion that have nothing to do with the economy of the country. I guess as long as we don't kill babies it's ok if they go hungry and live in the street. The only problem is that conservatives care enough about their cause to vote, while liberals are lazy assholes that don't vote. They talk a lot of shit and bitch about how things are, but when it comes time to walk the walk, they sit on their ass.

All these people bitch about small business, small business, poor small business... but the fact of the matter is, small business is a thing of the past thanks to republicans. Corporations own this country. These corporations have gotten so big and have such a monopoly over so many things, that they could care less if they screw customers over because where else are you going to go? Now-a-days if you say "Hey, you are a rude company I'm going somewhere else" you get "ok, we don't need you, we have 3 million other customers, bye". Anyone who wants to take the side of these big corporations has obviously never had to deal with any of these companies that care so much about their customers... or they have a very short memory. And those who have forgotten how bad the 80's sucked either didn't live through them or is in denial.

[101A]

Republican ideology is horrible. Every time a repug is in office the economy plummets. 80's sucked balls and the 2000's sucked balls. People are just too stupid to see it. They are blinded by issues like abortion that have nothing to do with the economy of the country. I guess as long as we don't kill babies it's ok if they go hungry and live in the street. The only problem is that conservatives care enough about their cause to vote, while liberals are lazy assholes that don't vote. They talk a lot of shit and bitch about how things are, but when it comes time to walk the walk, they sit on their ass.

All these people bitch about small business, small business, poor small business... but the fact of the matter is, small business is a thing of the past thanks to republicans. Corporations own this country. These corporations have gotten so big and have such a monopoly over so many things, that they could care less if they screw customers over because where else are you going to go? Now-a-days if you say "Hey, you are a rude company I'm going somewhere else" you get "ok, we don't need you, we have 3 million other customers, bye". Anyone who wants to take the side of these big corporations has obviously never had to deal with any of these companies that care so much about their customers... or they have a very short memory. And those who have forgotten how bad the 80's sucked either didn't live through them or is in denial.

Talk out your ass much?

Abortion is NOT a winning issue for Republicans for any group but the base.

There are more people employed by Small Business in this country than by large corporations.

The '80's featured UNPRECEDENTED economic growth and job creation. Now the '70's with stagflation (10% unemployment, 12% inflation, 20% interest); there is something to be feared.

A ridiculous post.

[JoeChalupa]

Those are all social issues; Americans are also, generally, more Conservative on economic issues. The answer to "do you want a bigger, or smaller Federal Govt." still produces "smaller" as an answer by more than 50% of the population.

I concur but with out government intervention progress, IMHO, stalls.

[101A]

I concur but with out government intervention progress, IMHO, stalls.


Well, there's the crux of the argument.


IMHO with govt., intervention progress stalls.

Hell, look at the lower income family model our govt. created with the "Great Society" programs. Unprecedented illegitimacy AND single mother households - much higher numbers than BEFORE abortion was legalized!!! African American families; just as the civil rights movement was eliminating barriers to progress for them, got completely undermined by that program. They have not recovered.

[JoeChalupa]

Well, there's the crux of the argument.


IMHO with govt., intervention progress stalls.

Hell, look at the lower income family model our govt. created with the "Great Society" programs. Unprecedented illegitimacy AND single mother households - much higher numbers than BEFORE abortion was legalized!!! African American families; just as the civil rights movement was eliminating barriers to progress for them, got completely undermined by that program. They have not recovered.

I disagree. Obama would not be where he is at today were it not for the Civil Rights movement.

[101A]

I disagree. Obama would not be where he is at today were it not for the Civil Rights movement.

I lauded the Civil Rights movement in my post - please re-read it; it was necessary; and the legislation behind it would not have passed the Democratic Congress without the strong Republican support it enjoyed.

That was not intrusive, overreaching govt. THAT was the government upholding the Constitution and the rights of its citizens. THAT same congress then, undermined the black population by passing the Great Society programs - NOT the same as Civil Rights.

And I agree, Obama WOULD NOT be where he is without Civil Rights; but when he is elected President, there will be NO African American Senators. I don't believe that would be the case if the Welfare State didn't keep blacks down in such large numbers.

[ratm1221]

Talk out your ass much?

Abortion is NOT a winning issue for Republicans for any group but the base.

There are more people employed by Small Business in this country than by large corporations.

The '80's featured UNPRECEDENTED economic growth and job creation. Now the '70's with stagflation (10% unemployment, 12% inflation, 20% interest); there is something to be feared.

A ridiculous post.

You're full of shit. I don't know where the hell you lived in the 80's but there were absolutely zero, NO jobs, in DFW in the 80's. My dad was an electrician and there was no work for him or his entire Union because there was no construction. No growth at all. Jobs were a day by day basis. Some days they would just flat out tell you not to come to work that day.

You're ridiculous, bitch.

[101A]

You're full of shit. I don't know where the hell you lived in the 80's but there were absolutely zero, NO jobs, in DFW in the 80's. My dad was an electrician and there was no work for him or his entire Union because there was no construction. No growth at all. Jobs were a day by day basis. Some days they would just flat out tell you not to come to work that day.

You're ridiculous, bitch.

:lmao

the RATM1221 index was low.

I'm very sorry your Dad had a rough go of it. 20,000,000 other Americans, who previously didn't have it, were able to find work. Me, and my old man for that matter, did quite well.

[JoeChalupa]

I lauded the Civil Rights movement in my post - please re-read it; it was necessary; and the legislation behind it would not have passed the Democratic Congress without the strong Republican support it enjoyed.

That was not intrusive, overreaching govt. THAT was the government upholding the Constitution and the rights of its citizens. THAT same congress then, undermined the black population by passing the Great Society programs - NOT the same as Civil Rights.

And I agree, Obama WOULD NOT be where he is without Civil Rights; but when he is elected President, there will be NO African American Senators. I don't believe that would be the case if the Welfare State didn't keep blacks down in such large numbers.

Again I disgree. It is not the Welfare State that keeps them down and that is why Obama keeps talking about personal responsibility.

[ratm1221]

the RATM1221 index was low.

I'm very sorry your Dad had a rough go of it. 20,000,000 other Americans, who previously didn't have it, were able to find work. Me, and my old man for that matter, did quite well.

I feel sorry for you. You have a lot to learn in life my friend.

[101A]

Again I disgree. It is not the Welfare State that keeps them down and that is why Obama keeps talking about personal responsibility.

The United States Government pays for irresponsible behavior, and does not reward responsible behavior. You get what you pay for.

Check the stats for black illegitimacy before and AFTER the Great Society. Prior to it, they actually enjoyed LOWER than average illegitimacy rates - afterwards; skyrocketing. The numbers do not lie.

[101A]

I feel sorry for you. You have a lot to learn in life my friend.

I'm older than you.

I can almost guarantee I am more economically successful than you.

I am damned sure happier than you.

I think I'm doing alright in my blessed ignorance.

[JoeChalupa]

The United States Government pays for irresponsible behavior, and does not reward responsible behavior. You get what you pay for.

Check the stats for black illegitimacy before and AFTER the Great Society. Prior to it, they actually enjoyed LOWER than average illegitimacy rates - afterwards; skyrocketing. The numbers do not lie.

But again, that is not what is keeping them down and that is just a plain fact.

[JoeChalupa]

I'm older than you.

I can almost guarantee I am more economically successful than you.

I am damned sure happier than you.

I think I'm doing alright in my blessed ignorance.

WTF does age or someone's economic success have to do with anything? Talk about a ridiculous post.

[101A]

But again, that is not what is keeping them down and that is just a plain fact.

No it's not; and unfortunately, it has created a defeated mindset in the entire race; so much that almost all Welfare issues are "black" issues. They are convinced that without govt. intervention they cannot succeed.

I truly hope, in fact was telling my wife just last night, that the symbol that is Barrack Obama as president will turn that tide.

Of course, with the Congress likely passing more entitlement programs; and Obama' OWN proposals calling for a DRAMATIC increase in taxation for a person that crosses the $40,000 income threshold; that WON'T encourage success (by that I mean one of his new govt. tax "credits" runs out at that point AND the income tax kicks in; making the next dollar earned MUCH more expensive than the previous).

[101A]

WTF does age or someone's economic success have to do with anything? Talk about a ridiculous post.


Dude was lecturing me on what I have to learn in life - and that he might provide the lesson. I was simply pointing out that I could, probably, learn very little from him, in any aspect of my life.

Oh, I didn't mention; I also know Jesus Christ.

[ratm1221]

I'm older than you.

I can almost guarantee I am more economically successful than you.

I am damned sure happier than you.

I think I'm doing alright in my blessed ignorance.

I do pretty well for myself, but thanks for your concern.

I'll sleep better tonight knowing you're happy the mess the country is in right now.

[ratm1221]

I can almost guarantee I am more economically successful than you.


And I take it that your basing this on the fact that my father stumbled a bit in the 80's and was a lowly hard working electrician. And the ideology that the poor stay poor and the rich get richer?

I'm proud of my father and I wouldn't let you degrade that. He worked his ass off to get where he is now. He is a GM of a company that is a household name. So let's just stand around and see who can piss the furthest.

[2centsworth]

You're full of shit. I don't know where the hell you lived in the 80's but there were absolutely zero, NO jobs, in DFW in the 80's. My dad was an electrician and there was no work for him or his entire Union because there was no construction. No growth at all. Jobs were a day by day basis. Some days they would just flat out tell you not to come to work that day.

You're ridiculous, bitch.

more of the my dad evidence.:lol

[2centsworth]

I do pretty well for myself, but thanks for your concern.

I'll sleep better tonight knowing you're happy the mess the country is in right now.

does your daddy agree?

[ratm1221]

does your daddy agree?

At least I know who my father is. :toast

[2centsworth]

At least I know who my father is. :toast

I know you are but what am I?:sleep:lol

[whottt]

So 2cents does this mean you are again voting for McCain or still Obama? I notice you removed Obama from your sig...


I just need to know so I know what to think of you.

[whottt]

Are you a whottt troll?


smeagol is the most complex poster on this forum...if you are pro-Argie he loves you and if you don't he hates you.

Tough nut to crack.

[JohnnyMarzetti]

smeagol is the most complex poster on this forum...if you are pro-Argie he loves you and if you don't he hates you.

Tough nut to crack.

I'm sure you've busted a few nuts over sarah

[Shastafarian]

smeagol is the most complex poster on this forum...if you are pro-Argie he loves you and if you don't he hates you.

Tough nut to crack.

If you don't what?

[whottt]

I'm sure you've busted a few nuts over sarah

You go ahead and be sure about that.

[2centsworth]

So 2cents does this mean you are again voting for McCain or still Obama? I notice you removed Obama from your sig...


I just need to know so I know what to think of you.

I'm gonna hang myself.

I believe our only long-term hope is a principled republican party. At this point, we have a bunch of republican pretenders. Obama is going to win without my help.

[boutons_]

"republican pretenders"

And they control the party, and won't be purged.

What you see, is what you got.

[temujin]

Dude was lecturing me on what I have to learn in life - and that he might provide the lesson. I was simply pointing out that I could, probably, learn very little from him, in any aspect of my life.

Oh, I didn't mention; I also know Jesus Christ.


Say Hi when you see Him.

Provided that he sees you.

[Findog]

You go ahead and be sure about that.

Say hi to ya mother for me, okay?

[101A]

does your daddy agree?


:downspin:

[florige]

They're using the "traditional" LV model, which is based on 2004 turnout results and demographics. It's based on trends that no longer exist.

Jesus

http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/2008/10/todays-polls-1016.html



:lol Calm down Fin. You know Joe is always looking at the dire side of things....