Repug voter fraud in early voting

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Some early W.Va. voters angry over switched votes

http://www.wvgazette.com/News/200810170676?page=1&build=cache

How many 100s of 1000s of HUSSEIN votes will the Repugs steal?

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Some early W.Va. voters angry over switched votes

http://www.wvgazette.com/News/200810170676?page=1&build=cache

How many 100s of 1000s of HUSSEIN votes will the Repugs steal?

Well, they do have about 220K to make up for that the Dems are getting away with in Ohio...

[ChumpDumper]

Well, they do have about 220K to make up for that the Dems are getting away with in Ohio...So there have already been 220k fraudulent votes cast in Ohio?

I'd like to read that story.

[BRHornet45]

So there have already been 220k fraudulent votes cast in Ohio?

I'd like to read that story.

fuck you you piece of shit fraud.

[ChumpDumper]

fuck you you piece of shit fraud.If there is a news story proving 220,000 fraudulent ballots in Ohio, I definitely would like to see it.

There is nothing fraudulent about my interest in such a story.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Come on Chump. There's 220K ballots in Ohio that have problems with voter verification that they won't be checking for legitimacy.

As much as libs bitched about votes not being counted, etc. last time, it's a little bit hypocritical to not have a problem with what's going on in Ohio.

[ChumpDumper]

Come on Chump. There's 220K ballots in Ohio that have problems with voter verification that they won't be checking for legitimacy.Registration forms are not ballots.

[George Gervin's Afro]

fuck you you piece of shit fraud.

Lighten up Francis.

[ratm1221]

Come on Chump. There's 220K ballots in Ohio that have problems with voter verification that they won't be checking for legitimacy.

As much as libs bitched about votes not being counted, etc. last time, it's a little bit hypocritical to not have a problem with what's going on in Ohio.

Amazing how someone can say this is ok.... typical

[ChumpDumper]

Besides, the Supreme Court ordered the Ohio Secretary of State to create a system to track all the 220k registrations in question, so if actually vote fraud results, you could actually have cause to be pissed.

[Anti.Hero]

The Supreme court has been bought off through shear force of Obama aura. They cannot be trusted anymore.

Only Whott and I can confirm said registration cards.


First Name: Chump
Last Name: Dumpster
Location: 1234 Chumpville St.

does not qualify anymore

[ChumpDumper]

Now that's funny.

[whottt]

Chump thinks voter fraud is funny....fucking lowlife.

[ChumpDumper]

Chump thinks voter fraud is funny....fucking lowlife.Aw, whottt's mad because he doesn't know what he's talking about again.

I feel sorry for him.

[whottt]

What about the voter fraud Chump?

What are your stupid thoughts on it?

[ChumpDumper]

How many fraudulent votes have been cast?

I would like to know the scope of this horror.

[whottt]

Well Chump...how many cases would it take for you to stop being an ignorant smug ass about it?

Give me that number and I'll see what I can do.

[ChumpDumper]

How many fraudulent votes have been cast?


Don't try to move the goalposts again. I'm asking how many fraudulent votes have been cast.

[whottt]

How many fraudulent votes have been cast?


Don't try to move the goalposts again. I'm asking how many fraudulent votes have been cast.


You obviously don't think it's a big deal...so whatever number I initially produce is going to be dismissed in smug and stupid fashion by yourself...

Since I want to make my efforts worthwhile, I would like a number that you consider a relevant cause for alarm.

[ChumpDumper]

I want you to tell me the number of fraudulent votes.

Tell me the number of fraudulent votes.

[whottt]

Tell me how many you'd consider enough to be a problem.

[Findog]

So there have already been 220k fraudulent votes cast in Ohio?

I'd like to read that story.

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Will Republicans use contested voter registration lists to scare new voters?

"According to the Social Security Administration, between January and September 2008, there were 289,603 non-matches in Ohio, 72,137 non-matches in Pennsylvania, 4,546 non-matches in Wisconsin, and 716,252 non-matches in Nevada, 265,691 non-matches in Georgia, and 57,887 non-matches in Indiana."

http://www.alternet.org/democracy/103604/will_republicans_use_contested_voter_registration_ lists_to_scare_new_voters/?page=entire

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The Repugs raise "massive vote fraud" MYTH EVERY election but never have been able to find and prove and prosecute it.

[Purple & Gold]

I want you to tell me the number of fraudulent votes.

Tell me the number of fraudulent votes.

It's a simple question whottt

[Purple & Gold]

Are you not livid about this whottt??

[Nbadan]

DuH! How do you think they stole the 2000, 2004 Presidential and tried to steal the 2006 Congressional elections?


MNYA5ggwG84

E-voting machines need 100% paper trail verification by county election workers, otherwise we will continue to live in a banana republic...and exactly why Obama supporters shouldn't be to smuge about Obama's lead in the polls until all the votes are counted NOV 4 and Obama is announced the winner...

[Nbadan]

Olbermann has done a excellent job reporting how the GOP plans to use the ACORN voter registration fraud ruse to suppress votes in democratic districts...


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The Republican voter fraud hoax

Donald Duck and the Dallas Cowboys won't steal the election for Obama. Acorn's only crime is registering Democratic voters

Brad Friedman (http://www.guardian.co.uk/profile/bradfriedman)
guardian.co.uk (http://www.guardian.co.uk/),
Monday October 13 2008 20.30 BST Barack Obama and the Democrats are stealing the election. Massive voter fraud is being carried out, even as we speak, by their henchmen, known by the innocuous sounding Association for Community Organisations for Reform Now, or Acorn. Clever bastards.

The only problem? Despite the screaming wall-to-wall coverage of "Democratic voter fraud in 11 swing states" as seen on Fox News and even the once-respectable CNN, none of it's true. None of it.

In just the last week, we've had

a phoney stunt raid in swing state Nevada (http://www.bradblog.com/?p=6480) (where Acorn had been cooperating with officials for months, concerning problem canvassers they'd long ago fired);

a Republican election official in swing state Missouri tell Fox News (http://www.bradblog.com/?p=6487) that she's being beseiged (http://www.bradblog.com/?p=6488) with fraudulent registration forms from Acorn (in a county where they've not done any registration work since August);

a Republican sheriff in swing state Ohio, who, the very next day, suddenly requested (http://www.bradblog.com/?p=6493) the names and addresses of hundreds of early voters (with evidence of exactly zero wrong doing, but lots of Democratic-leaning college student in the particular county, and John McCain's state campaign chair as a partner in the investigation);

and a screaming front page headline in Rupert Murdoch's New York Post (http://www.nypost.com/seven/10092008/news/politics/nuts__132771.htm) about a guy who claims he was somehow tricked by Acorn into registering 72 times (but read the article closely to note he says he registered at the same address each time, which, even if true, would allow him - you guessed it - precisely one legal vote.)

It's an old Republican scam, but it's never been carried out with more zeal than this year. The Republicans have been putting so much time, money and resources into the propaganda leading up to this over the last four years (http://www.bradblog.com/ACVR), we should have expected no less.

As luck would have it, the Democrats have a man who, as an attorney years ago, actually had the temerity to join the US department of justice in representing Acorn in a successful lawsuit, forcing the state of Illinois to follow the law by allowing citizens to register to vote at the department of motor vehicles. What a scoundrel.

That, of course, was before the department of justice, under George Bush's corrupt command, would itself become politicised by the very Republicans so desperate to keep low-income voters from voting, that they were willing to fire their own US attorneys for failing to bring phoney charges of voter fraud in key swing states like Nevada and Missouri.

So what are the crimes that have caused all the Sturm und Drang on US television and talk radio, and in several otherwise respectable newspapers and even by the McCain campaign itself?

The only actual crime here is that Acorn managed to register (http://www.bradblog.com/?p=6503) some 1.3m low-income (read: Democratic-leaning) voters over the past two years. The rest is, pretty much, just made up.

But in the bloody and desperate trenches of the Republican war on democracy (http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2008/aug/20/uselections2008.civilliberties), that's more than enough to kick in a last minute surge of lies that may - with the help of a compliant and lazy corporate US media - wreak enough havoc, scare enough voters, confuse enough people and plant enough seeds to call an Obama victory into doubt on November 4.

If you can't win it, steal it. If you can't steal it, claim the other guy stole it. If you can't claim the other guy stole it (yet), say they're about to and then kick up smoke that maybe someone will believe you. (Heckuva job, CNN.)

Here are the facts. Acorn verifies the legitimacy of every registration its canvassers collect. If they can't authenticate the registration, or it's incomplete or questionable in other ways, they flag that form as problematic ("fraudulent", "incomplete", et cetera). They then hand in all registration forms, even the problematic ones, to elections officials, as they are required to do by law. In almost every case where you've heard about fraud by Acorn, it's because Acorn itself notified officials about the fraud that's been perpetrated on them by rogue canvassers. Most officials who run to the media screaming "Acorn is committing fraud" know all of the above but don't bother to share those facts with the media they've run to.

None of this is about voter fraud. None of it. Where any fraud has occurred, it's voter registration fraud and has resulted in exactly zero fraudulent votes.

You'll hear that Donald Duck, Mary Poppins, Dick Tracy, Mickey Mouse and (new this year) the starting lineup of the Dallas Cowboys (http://www.star-telegram.com/332/story/958266.html) football team have all had fraudulent registrations submitted in their names. That's true. And we know this, why? Because Acorn told officials about it when they followed the law and turned in those registrations, flagged as fraudulent.

What you won't hear is that federal law requires anybody who does not register to vote in person at the county office to show an ID when they go to vote the first time. So, unless Donald Duck shows up with his ID, he won't be voting this November. You needn't worry, no matter how much even John McCain himself (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BCB-wGSRzVc) cynically and dishonourably tries to mislead you.

If it quacks like a duck, in this case, it's likely another Republican Acorn voter fraud lie. They haul it out every two years.

Just days before the 2004 presidential election, rightwing whack job Michelle Malkin claimed that Acorn was registering terrorists to vote in swing state Ohio. Problem was, that was a lie (http://mediamatters.org/items/200410270005).

In 2006, again just days before the election, the new US attorney in swing state Missouri (recently appointed, since the one before him refused to bring such charges), filed voter fraud indictments against Acorn workers in the state. Problem was, bringing election-related indictments that close to an election was a violation of the department of justice's own written policy. And Acorn had nothing to do with it, other than turning in the employees to officials.

Getting the picture? It's a hoax. All of it.

But it's been an effective one, as it's served to distract from very real concerns about tens of thousands of voters who have been illegally purged from the voting rolls in dozens of states, as the New York Times reported (http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/09/us/politics/09voting.html?_r=1&oref=slogin&pagewanted=all) in a remarkable front page investigative story. That story followed a report the week before from CBS News (http://www.bradblog.com/?p=6453) detailing still more wholesale purges of voting rolls in some 20 states.

That will be the November surprise, when thousands, if not millions show up to vote only to find they are no longer welcome to do so and are forced to vote on a "provisional ballot" which may or may not be counted.

These real concerns of election fraud, such as voting roll purges, electronic voting machines that don't work (http://www.bradblog.com/?p=6497) and so much more that actually matters, have been obscured by the smoke and mirrors and sleight of hand of the Republican party's phoney Acorn voter fraud charade.

And where they can, they'll parlay it all into new photo ID restrictions at the polls (knowing full well that some 20m, largely Democratic-leaning voters don't own the type of ID they'd need to jump over that next Republican hurdle.)

Yet, with all of the unsubstantiated, wholly bogus claims of voter fraud being carried out by Democrats, there remains at least one case of absolutely ironclad, documented, yet still-unprosecuted case of voter fraud that, for some reason, Republicans don't much like to talk about.
We can only wonder why (http://www.bradblog.com/?p=6046).

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/cifamerica/2008/oct/13/election-acorn-voter-fraud

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About the only way HUSSEIN can lose, assuming the polls are anywhere near accurate, is having the Repugs steal it. If they can't steal, they will try to de-legitimize HUSSEIN's victory.

You stay classy, Repugs.

[DarrinS]

Olbermann has done a excellent job reporting how the GOP plans to use the ACORN voter registration fraud ruse to suppress votes in democratic districts...


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Olbermann had done such a fantastic job that he and "thrill up my leg" Chris Mathhews got demoted. :lmao


Here's what Olbermann really needs to be doing.

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And, he needs to stay the fuck away from football too.

[ChumpDumper]

So has anyone gotten the number of fraudulent votes yet?

[Cant_Be_Faded]

I'll never understand how stupid the common american can be to believe the republicans' bit how every single presidential election since like Nixon has been manipulated and fixed by the democrats. Then they're twice as stupid for not realizing Republicans are the ones who have a documented history of fixing elections.

[whottt]

Be happy to do it as soon as you give me a number that will get you to stop acting like a smug ass about it...


I want to know how many fraudulent votes will make you be concerned.


Personally...I don't think the number exists, I think you are totally pro-voter fraud.

[ElNono]

Personally...I don't think the number exists, I think you are totally pro-voter fraud.

Is that like being Pro-Choice? And is it Anti-American or Pro-American?

[ChumpDumper]

I want the number of fraudulent votes.

Why are you so afraid to give me the number of fraudulent votes?

Fucking coward.

[ChumpDumper]

So any word on that number of fraudulent votes?

I don't know why you anti-fraud crusaders are being such pussies about giving the facts of the situation.

[whottt]

I don't know why you're terrified of giving me the number it will take to have an impact on your opinion...surely you know this number, if it exists.

[ChumpDumper]

Any actual vote fraud interests me. I want all the instances. Let all of us know how widespread and extensive the problem is.

Quit being such a fucking pussy, whottt.

[ChumpDumper]

whottt claims massive vote fraud.

How massive?

whottt will never say because he's a pussy.

Makes sense.

[Mr. Peabody]

whottt claims massive vote fraud.

How massive?


I think they have to see what Obama's margin of victory is first.

[ChumpDumper]

I think they have to see what Obama's margin of victory is first.His pre-excusing has been duly noted. What he won't produce is the number of fraudulent votes he has claimed have already been cast in the massive voter fraud he alleges.

Because he's a pussy.

Now he'll try to make this all about me.

[whottt]

Well I can see this conversation is going to accomplish nothing except for childish name calling and circular arguments so unless you want to give me that number...

I'll just say go fuck yourself corrupt fraud supporting pussy...


The last word is yours:

[Shastafarian]

Well I can see this conversation is going to accomplish nothing except for childish name calling and circular arguments so unless you want to give me that number...

I'll just say go fuck yourself corrupt fraud supporting pussy...


The last word is yours:

It's not often you see someone label himself "childish". I gotta say that's a first.

[Shastafarian]

Usually when you're trying to prove a point you need some evidence to support it. Whottt seems to think the onus is on someone else to prove a completely irrelevant point before supplying evidence to support the main point of the argument. I guess whottt didn't learn much in college. Unless you count thinking up Supermassive Black Holes in his Astronomy class.

[ElNono]

Usually when you're trying to prove a point you need some evidence to support it. Whottt seems to think the onus is on someone else prove a completely irrelevant point before supplying evidence to support the main point of the argument. I guess whottt didn't learn much in college. Unless you count thinking up Supermassive Black Holes in his Astronomy class.

It's the shrooms... he still trippin'

[Shastafarian]

It's the shrooms... he still trippin'

Taking shrooms doesn't make you a complete moron and asshole. Therefore even shrooms can't explain whottt.

[ChumpDumper]

I will gladly take the last word here:

whottt made up his charge of massive vote fraud out of whole cloth because deep down he is afraid that he is going to be wrong about McCain's winning the election. Nothing is more important to whottt than being right on the internets, and he will lie incessantly to make himself at least feel like he's right.

Anyone spouting about massive voter fraud on Obama's part has never addressed even the simplest of questions like these:

How are people posing as the Dallas Cowboys going to vote in Las Vegas?

How can a registration card be sent to a fake address?

How is ACORN trying to get away with phony registrations when the whole reason authorities know they are phony is because ACORN flagged them as phony when they turned in the forms -- and are required by law to include even the phony registrations in their submissions?

and of course the question whottt refuses to answer:

How widespread is the actual vote fraud?

whottt will not answer this because the number of actual fraudulent votes just isn't massive as his lying would lead you to believe, and he is doing everything in his power to avoid coughing it up and admitting his lie.

I still would like to know the exact number and would trust those who are genuinely concerned about vote fraud to give me a nice source for it. I am no fan of vote fraud, but whottt is a liar for saying Obama is orchestrating massive vote fraud and whottt is a pussy for running away once I called him out on it.

[ChumpDumper]

Now we'll see if whottt is lying about giving me the last word.

[Mr. Peabody]

Well, it does appear that registration fraud is going on in both parties.



Voters say they were duped into registering as Republicans
By Evan Halper and Michael Rothfeld, Los Angeles Times Staff Writers
October 18, 2008

SACRAMENTO -- Dozens of newly minted Republican voters say they were duped into joining the party by a GOP contractor with a trail of fraud complaints stretching across the country.

Voters contacted by The Times said they were tricked into switching parties while signing what they believed were petitions for tougher penalties against child molesters. Some said they were told that they had to become Republicans to sign the petition, contrary to California initiative law. Others had no idea their registration was being changed.

"I am not a Republican," insisted Karen Ashcraft, 47, a pet-clinic manager and former Democrat from Ventura who said she was duped by a signature gatherer into joining the GOP. "I certainly . . . won't sign anything in front of a grocery store ever again."

It is a bait-and-switch scheme familiar to election experts. The firm hired by the California Republican Party -- a small company called Young Political Majors, or YPM, which operates in several states -- has been accused of using the tactic across the country.

[PixelPusher]

Well, it does appear that registration fraud is going on in both parties.

and like the fraudulant ACORN registrations, they won't amount to dick. Tony Romo isn't showing up to Ohio to vote for Obama, and these "newly-minted Republicans" can still vote for whoever the hell they want on election day.

[PixelPusher]

"I am not a Republican," insisted Karen Ashcraft, 47, a pet-clinic manager and former Democrat from Ventura who said she was duped by a signature gatherer into joining the GOP. "I certainly . . . won't sign anything in front of a grocery store ever again."
That may have been the whole point.

[boutons_]

In spewing their slime and smokescreen about ACORN's self-reported/flagged problematic registrations, the Repugs want suckers to confound fake registrations, most of which will be discarded anyway, with fraudulent voting.

otoh, the Repugs are purging and intimidating VOTERS, and much more effective tactic than Mickey Mouse registering.

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- Greg Palast - http://www.gregpalast.com -
ROLLING STONE: It's Already Stolen
Posted By Greg Palast On October 16, 2008 @ 11:59 pm In

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Investigation by Robert F. Kennedy Jr. and Greg Palast released today


Don’t worry about Mickey Mouse or ACORN stealing the election.

According to an investigative report out today in Rolling Stone magazine, Robert F. Kennedy Jr. and Greg Palast, after a year-long investigation, reveal a systematic program of "GOP vote tampering" on a massive scale.

- Republican Secretaries of State of swing-state Colorado have quietly purged one in six names from their voter rolls.

Over several months, the GOP politicos in Colorado stonewalled every attempt by Rolling Stone to get an answer to the massive purge - ten times the average state's rate of removal.

- While Obama dreams of riding to the White House on a wave of new voters, more then 2.7 million have had their registrations REJECTED under new procedures signed into law by George Bush.

Kennedy, a voting rights lawyer, charges this is a resurgence of 'Jim Crow' tactics to wrongly block Black and Hispanic voters.

- A fired US prosecutor levels new charges - accusing leaders of his own party, Republicans, with criminal acts in an attempt to block legal voters as "fraudulent."

- Digging through government records, the Kennedy-Palast team discovered that, in 2004, a GOP scheme called "caging” ultimately took away the rights of 1.1 million voters. The Rolling Stone duo predict that, this November 4, it will be far worse.

There's more:

- Since the last presidential race, "States used dubious 'list management' rules to scrub at least 10 million voters from their rolls."

Among those was Paul Maez of Las Vegas, New Mexico - a victim of an unreported but devastating purge of voters in that state that left as many as one in nine Democrats without a vote. For Maez, the state's purging his registration was particularly shocking - he's the county elections supervisor.
The Kennedy-Palast revelations go far beyond the sum of questionably purged voters recently reported by the New York Times.

"Republican operatives - the party's elite commandos of bare-knuckle politics," report Kennedy and Palast, under the cover of fighting fraudulent voting, are "systematically disenfranchis[ing] Democrats."

The investigators level a deadly serious charge:

"If Democrats are to win the 2008 election, they must not simply beat McCain at the polls - they must beat him by a margin that exceeds the level of GOP vote tampering."

Block the Vote by Robert F. Kennedy Jr. & Greg Palast in the current issue (#1064) of Rolling Stone.


Article printed from Greg Palast: http://www.gregpalast.com

URL to article: http://www.gregpalast.com/rolling-stone-its-already-stolen/


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Will 10 points lead be enough to overcome Repug VOTER fraud and suppression?

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M6c12Of-lH0&NR=1


btw, the FBI and/or WH leaking that FBI was investigating ACORN is a violation of FBI's own rules, where such investigations are not announced. FBI has been compromised, along with the rest of govt, into nothing but a political arm of the Repug party.

[Wild Cobra]

My God. This idiotic thread for a voting machine that needs the touch screen calibrated?

I'll bet there are reverse incidence, but because the liberal media doesn't want to report on a macine switching a republican vote to democrat, we wont see it.

Just calibrate the damn touch screen!

[fyatuk]

716,252 non-matches in Nevada

That's just messed up considering Nevada's population per 2007 estimates is only 2.5 million. What the hell is up with ACORN there?

[ChumpDumper]

My God, man!

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GOP admits plan to use foreclosure list to challenge voters

10/20/2008 @ 9:45 am

Filed by David Edwards and Muriel Kane

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In a startling concession, the Republican Party has admitted (http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/10/20/mi-republicans-admit-to-illegal-foreclosure-scheme-surrender-to-democrats/) to participating in an illegal scheme to use foreclosure lists to challenge predominantly Democratic voters in Michigan on Election Day.

An announcement by the Michigan Democratic Party of the settlement of a suit brought last month by the Democratic Party and the Obama campaign states, "The settlement acknowledges the existence of an illegal scheme by the Republicans to use mortgage foreclosure lists to deny foreclosure victims their right to vote. This settlement has the force of law behind it and ensures that Republicans cannot disenfranchise families facing foreclosure."

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[Wild Cobra]

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GOP admits plan to use foreclosure list to challenge voters


It may not be ethical, but why is it illegal?

The settlement may be cheaper than defending in court. It happens all the time.

Since we all acknowlege voter fraud occurs, why not allow a method for checking? A forclosure list tells you of people who no longer live at a stated address. If they haven't re-registered with a new address, they are not allowed to vote in many jurisdictions!

Anyone against law inforcement?

[Purple & Gold]

It may not be ethical, but why is it illegal?

The settlement may be cheaper than defending in court. It happens all the time.

Since we all acknowlege voter fraud occurs, why not allow a method for checking? A forclosure list tells you of people who no longer live at a stated address. If they haven't re-registered with a new address, they are not allowed to vote in many jurisdictions!

Anyone against law inforcement?

Wow so because they are in foreclosure they are not allowed to vote? Amazing how far the Repub party has sunk.

[Wild Cobra]

Wow so because they are in foreclosure they are not allowed to vote? Amazing how far the Repub party has sunk.
No, if they were forclosed on, they no longer have the same address.

[boutons_]

"why is it illegal"

because it's against the law.

Losing your house doesn't lose your citizenship nor your right to vote, although I can see how you social/economic Darwinists would love to punish ex-homeowners.

btw, states are restoring right to vote to ex-cons, eg, even red state FL

"The Florida Legislature and Gov. Charlie Crist (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/c/charlie_crist/index.html?inline=nyt-per), a Republican, changed the rules last year to restore the voting rights of about 112,000 former convicts"

http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2008/09/14/us/14felony_map_large.jpg

"Since we all acknowlege voter fraud occurs"

You're a liar.

[Purple & Gold]

No, if they were forclosed on, they no longer have the same address.

So because you are facing foreclosure you are not allowed to vote?? Wow talk about being elitist. Almost like Colonial America.

[Wild Cobra]

So because you are facing foreclosure you are not allowed to vote?? Wow talk about being elitist. Almost like Colonial America.
God I hate idiots like you who change what I say. I never said facing forclosure you fool.

IT IS LAW IN MOST PLACES THAT YOU ARE ONLY QUALIFIED TO VOTE WITH A CURRENT ADDRESS ON FILE!

Oh, if English is your second language, you are forgive. If not, please study english so you can get a better job.

[Purple & Gold]

God I hate idiots like you who change what I say. I never said facing forclosure you fool.

IT IS LAW IN MOST PLACES THAT YOU ARE ONLY QUALIFIED TO VOTE WITH A CURRENT ADDRESS ON FILE!

Oh, if English is your second language, you are forgive. If not, please study english so you can get a better job.

Even if you didn't say it that's what the foreclosure list has on it. So then you agree that it's illegal?

Ohhh and newsflash just because you are facing foreclosure does not mean that you don't live at that address.

Maybe you should actually know what you're talking about before you open your piehole.

[Wild Cobra]

Even if you didn't say it that's what the foreclosure list has on it. So then you agree that it's illegal?

Ohhh and newsflash just because you are facing foreclosure does not mean that you don't live at that address.

Maybe you should actually know what you're talking about before you open your piehole.
You should stop that shit talking and go back and read the articles linked to the first article linked.

[Purple & Gold]

You should stop that shit talking and go back and read the articles linked to the first article linked.

I thought we were commenting on the article about the foreclosure list in Michigan. What exactly were you talking about??

And :lmao :lmao @ you crying about stopping the shit talking.

[ChumpDumper]

So Wild Cobra wants to disenfranchise people facing foreclosure.

Sounds about right.

[Wild Cobra]

The problem with you liberals is you hear and read what you want.

Again, it is places forclosed on. PAST TENSE! Please go back and refesh yourself with 5th grade english. Go and follow the links in the articles linked in post #58, the first of this forclosure topic.

Please stop being silly bitches. Also, at the botton of the linked article:

http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x262/Wild_Cobra/forclosed.jpg

[RandomGuy]

http://rawstory.com/images/other/rawsmaller2.gif (http://rawstory.com/)

GOP admits plan to use foreclosure list to challenge voters

10/20/2008 @ 9:45 am

Filed by David Edwards and Muriel Kane

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In a startling concession, the Republican Party has admitted (http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/10/20/mi-republicans-admit-to-illegal-foreclosure-scheme-surrender-to-democrats/) to participating in an illegal scheme to use foreclosure lists to challenge predominantly Democratic voters in Michigan on Election Day.

An announcement by the Michigan Democratic Party of the settlement of a suit brought last month by the Democratic Party and the Obama campaign states, "The settlement acknowledges the existence of an illegal scheme by the Republicans to use mortgage foreclosure lists to deny foreclosure victims their right to vote. This settlement has the force of law behind it and ensures that Republicans cannot disenfranchise families facing foreclosure."

http://rawstory.com//printstory.php?story=12405

oopsies.

But but but the Republicans are pro-american.

That must mean it is pro-america to deny people the right to vote.

I have always half-joked about the Republican War on the Poor, but this shit really makes me wonder how much of that is really true.

[RandomGuy]

You should stop that shit talking and go back and read the articles linked to the first article linked.

Remember to count the articles that WC posts 10 times when weighing the evidence, and to multiply the articles that make republicans look bad by
.02351185

[RandomGuy]

I see a lot of anecdotal evidence that there are a lot of Republican attempts to disenfranchise poor people, so I can only conclude that there is more of it today than there was 30 years ago.

[Wild Cobra]

oopsies.

But but but the Republicans are pro-american.

That must mean it is pro-america to deny people the right to vote.

I have always half-joked about the Republican War on the Poor, but this shit really makes me wonder how much of that is really true.

My God. There are allot of Jethro Bodine's out there.

I know you guys graduated from 5th grade and can count to ten when you take your shoes off, but you should still understand that FORCLOSED with the 'ED suffix means past tense. These people no longe live there. Don't you get it?

[ChumpDumper]

Wild Cobra wants to kick people when they are down.

Sounds about right.

[DarrinS]

Will 10 points lead be enough to overcome Repug VOTER fraud and suppression?



Is it ok with you if we suppress the votes of the dead, votes of fictional characters, and multiple votes of people that have already voted once?

[ChumpDumper]

Is it ok with you if we suppress the votes of the dead, votes of fictional characters, and multiple votes of people that have already voted once?Sure you can. How many of each type of those votes are there?

Be specific.

[DarrinS]

Sure you can. How many of each type of those votes are there?

Be specific.



I don't have time to do your homework, jr.

Here's an ACORN fraud map. See for yourself.

http://www.electionjournal.org/acorn-fraud-map/

[ChumpDumper]

Registration fraud is not vote fraud. Why do you idiots insist that it is?

And how can ACORN be accused of fraud when they flag the questionable registrations themselves before they turn them into election officials?

Please answer these questions.

[Wild Cobra]

Registration fraud is not vote fraud. Why do you idiots insist that it is?

I pointed out the same thing, except what you ignore is it is step one of a two step voting fraud process.



And how can ACORN be accused of fraud when they flag the questionable registrations themselves before they turn them into election officials?

I just found a personal case. My youngest daughter was registered by ACORN at college some time back. She just told me a few days ago, but she never recieved her voter card or ballot. The Elections office has her name and SS Number at a different address! Yes, Police report is filed.



Please answer these questions.

My daughter's Avatar apparently voted in the primary!

[ChumpDumper]

I pointed out the same thing, except what you ignore is it is step one of a two step voting fraud process.Kind of useless for ACORN to tell officials in advance who will be voting fraudulently, isn't it?



I just found a personal case. My youngest daughter was registered by ACORN at college some time back. She just told me a few days ago, but she never recieved her voter card or ballot. The Elections office has her name and SS Number at a different address! Yes, Police report is filed.


My daughter's Avatar apparently voted in the primary!:lol We believe you! You would never make up a bullshit story in this forum. :rolleyes

[Wild Cobra]

Kind of useless for ACORN to tell officials in advance who will be voting fraudulently, isn't it?

Do you always convienently forget the past arguments on the subject? There are still several good looking entries that cannot be verified that end up at the elections office to take care of. Any corrupt election worker takes it from there. They can find fake entries, dub it as good, and vote for these fake people rather safely without ever being caught.

Before you ask, NO I don't have any solid evidence. Just that the system is far more easily manipulated this way than any method the democrats claim the republicans have done, like electronic voting.

[ChumpDumper]

NO I don't have any solid evidence.
NO I am not surprised you are just making shit up again.

Did you ever provide the overwhelming circumstantial evidence you said existed for fraud you cited earlier?

[boutons_]

"no longer live there"

... so they can't vote, esp can't vote "while black"

[Bigzax]

How many 100s of 1000s of HUSSEIN votes will the Repugs steal?

just enough to win...:tu

[clambake]

I just found a personal case. My youngest daughter was registered by ACORN at college some time back. She just told me a few days ago, but she never recieved her voter card or ballot. The Elections office has her name and SS Number at a different address! Yes, Police report is filed.

your daughter just throws her SS# around?
:lmao

[SpursWoman]

your daughter just throws her SS# around?
:lmao


It used to be on the registration application ... now it looks like it's just the last 4 digits they ask you for.

[clambake]

It used to be on the registration application ... now it looks like it's just the last 4 digits they ask you for.

are you wild cobra's daughter?

[SpursWoman]

Yeah, that's it.

[clambake]

Yeah, that's it.

no....no....if you are, i was just curious if your 2 college graduate brothers were still sitting around watching dad post in spurstalk. :p:

[SpursWoman]

Oh, no ... can't be me then. I only have one college graduate brother who is probably getting drunk right now at the prospect of turning 40 on Friday. And my dad died in 1999. :fro

[clambake]

sorry about dad, not your brother. 40 is a piece of cake.