Game Blog: Preseason Game 5: Spurs vs. Pacers

[duncan228]

Gameday: Spurs vs. Pacers (http://blogs.mysanantonio.com/weblogs/spursworld/2008/10/gameday_spurs_vs_pacers.html)

The Spurs have about 10 days left to settle their roster and get the new players in sync before their regular-season opener on Oct. 29.

That means tonight's preseason game is important for one reason to Spurs veterans, another reason for the rookies and other newcomers and yet another reason for coach Gregg Popovich.

Every preseason game is potentially the last time some young player will put on the Silver and Black.

The Spurs have also used the preseason players to give some gametime at point guard to players like Ime Udoka and Roger Mason, who normally play at another position.

- Joe Alexander, MySanAntonio.com

[MaNu4Tres]

War on the pacers.


War
War


Declare it Tim.

[xellos88330]

So no broadcast or feed this time eh?

[mystargtr34]

Should be good to see Duncan vs Rasho for a bit, cant wait for ploto to come on and declare Rasho the Duncan stopped or next Bill Russell if Tim misses a couple shots.

[xellos88330]

visual feed and broadcast i should say.

[mystargtr34]

So no broadcast or feed this time eh?

Nothing

[xellos88330]

Hope Salim gets a good enough workout tonight.

[xellos88330]

"The game you are tuning into, has not been started."

"The game you are tuning into, has not been started."

"The game you are tuning into, has not been started."

(NBA Audio Pass) :bang :pctoss:

[xellos88330]

Nothing

Thanks!

[MaNu4Tres]

War

[mystargtr34]

Duncan not playing?

Parker
Finley
Bowen
Bonner
Thomas

[Obstructed_View]

What time's the game start? According to ESPN, it's now, but NBA.com has Bill Parcells teling me the game hasn't started.

[Obstructed_View]

Ah, here we go.

[angelbelow]

thats fine, duncan doesnt have to play. i just want thomas to practice with them.

[xellos88330]

Odd. Oh well, time to listen to Tay Zonday.

[Spurs Brazil]

Fuck

Pacers radio

WTF with NBA.com and Spurs radio

TD out tonight

[Obstructed_View]

Salim's out. Interesting.

Okay, they have yet to play the WOAI broadcast for a game. It's getting to be like regular LP. Anyone know why they won't play the Spurs broadcast?

[xellos88330]

The Spurs announcers tell it like it is. The Spurs rule, and the media doesn't want anyone to know it.

[Spurs Brazil]

George Hill hit the court about 45 minutes before game time with a brace on his left hand. He missed the last game with a sprained thumb. He is not using his left hand at all.

http://blogs.mysanantonio.com/weblogs/spursworld/

[xellos88330]

Geez, the Pacers broadcasting team is putting me to sleep already.

[xellos88330]

Salim's out. Interesting.

I was under the impression Salim would be playing tonight.

[Obstructed_View]

I was under the impression Salim would be playing tonight.

So was I. Maybe I heard it wrong, but I think that's what the guy on Pacers radio said.

[Obstructed_View]

Oh my God this broadcast is tough to listen to. "BALM BABAH"

[xellos88330]

Yay Fin 3!!!

[Spurs Brazil]

TP with a nice start

Bonner J

Tie at 9

[Spurs Brazil]

KT J

Spurs up 11-9

[Obstructed_View]

Well, Bonner hasn't been murdered yet, so I suppose he's going to be okay.

[mystargtr34]

im actually really interested to see how Bonner backs up tonight after the last game.

[Obstructed_View]

I absolutely can't stand this broadcast. I'll look at the box score later and make outrageous assumptions.

[mystargtr34]

Someone tell Fin its time to start guarding people.

[ElNono]

Who's guarding Bonner? Granger or Troy Murphy?

[xellos88330]

That guy screaming "BOOM BABY!" is damn annoying. Scares the shit outta me.

[Spurs Brazil]

Oberto
Tolliver
Ime
Finley
TP

[xellos88330]

Ime 3!

[Spurs Brazil]

Ime 33333333333333

[xellos88330]

Parker 10pts already. He is a monster.

[Spurs Brazil]

TP is playing fantastic

[Spur-Addict]

"Bone Crunching Pick by Oberto"!

[Spurs Brazil]

TP again!!!!!!!

[xellos88330]

Wow, Parker 14 pts now lol!

[Ice009]

Tp Fucking Killing it.

[timvp]

Salim in.

[xellos88330]

Salim In!!!

[Spurs Brazil]

Salim in

[Spur-Addict]

Stoud is in

[xellos88330]

And Salim hits 2pt

[Spurs Brazil]

Salim scores

[timvp]

Salim at point guard.

[Ice009]

FUCK Stoudamire STRAIGHT UP hits a shot within seconds of getting on the court.

[xellos88330]

Well, Salim is 50% :smile:

[timvp]

Salim = two touches, two shots :lol

[Anti.Hero]

I get nothing from listening to the broadcasts with no visual to scout the scrubs.

It sounds like Bonner is giving up layup after layup like usual but I can't see it to get angry!

[xellos88330]

I get nothing from listening to the broadcasts with no visual to scout the scrubs.

It sounds like Bonner is giving up layup after layup like usual but I can't see it to get angry!

:lol

[Ice009]

He must of seen Tolliver with the green light to shoot. If he's got the green light to shoot then he could double Tolliver's shot attempts ;).

[Ice009]

Has Tolliver hit a shot???

[timvp]

Stoudamire not afraid to shoot . . . . .

[ace3g]

looks like Salim will shoot as much as possible tonight

[ElNono]

Tolliver has more rebounds than Bonner in less time... they're both scoreless also...

[tav1]

someone should tell Stoudamire and Tolliver to shoot a little

[Lady M]

maybe Stoudamire can make a pass ?

[xellos88330]

Stoudamire not afraid to shoot . . . . .

I can't tell if that is a good thing or a bad thing considering I have no idea if it was contested or not.

[Spurs Brazil]

Spurs up 30-21 after one

[Ice009]

Man seriously the Spurs better not have committed to Tolliver yet. The guy can't hit a shot. Farmer better get some court time tonight with the green light.

[xellos88330]

Tolliver slam!

[Spur-Addict]

Tolliver steal and dunk, nice.

[mystargtr34]

Tolliver seems really active, especially on the glass.

[Ice009]

Geez Tolliver hit a shot.

Edit : Good steal and dunk.

[ace3g]

Tolliver with a Dunk!!!

[xellos88330]

Tolliver 20 footer.

[Spurs Brazil]

Tolliver scores

[ace3g]

and then hits a 20 footer

[tav1]

Tolliver still doesn't impress me.

[mystargtr34]

Hes also active on the missed field goals.

[ace3g]

Parker in for Salim, atleast Tolliver is rebounding and active when his shot is not falling, that is always a good sign, no matter which player it is

[timvp]

Tolliver 2-for-9. Holy crap how many times is he going to shoot?

[tav1]

2 for 9.

I'm not sure why Pop loves this guy.

[vy65]

Has A-To really taken 9 shots? Or is ESPN wrong?

[ChumpDumper]

Five boards for Tolliver in a little over five minutes.

[Ice009]

Tolliver still doesn't impress me.

Me either. Bonner and Tolliver both don't impress me.

[ChumpDumper]

Tolliver 2-for-9. Holy crap how many times is he going to shoot?Looks like Rasho blocked a couple of them.

[Spurs Brazil]

Finley 333333333

[ace3g]

Finley 3!!!

[tav1]

Tolliver 2-for-9. Holy crap how many times is he going to shoot?

You beat me by a second. Here is the thing: his one on five nonsense pissed away the lead.

[Spurs Brazil]

TP again!!!!

[timvp]

TP needs to save some of this for the regular season.

[Spur-Addict]

Man, at least play different commercials, i'm tired of this heart commercial.

[xellos88330]

TP is making the Pacer defense look non-existent. It is making Tolliver think it would be just as easy for him.

[Ice009]

Tolliver 2-for-9. Holy crap how many times is he going to shoot?

I don't know man. I'd like to see Farmer with a green light like Tolliver seems to have. I think you'd get better results.

[xellos88330]

Bonner in for Tolliver

[xellos88330]

Thomas in for Oberto

[ace3g]

Farmer in the game

[angelbelow]

tp is looking good once again.

[xellos88330]

Farmer in too lol!

[Spurs Brazil]

Farmer in

[xellos88330]

Bonner 3

[Spurs Brazil]

Bonner 33333333333

[Ice009]

Bonnner BABY! lol

[ace3g]

Bonner 3!!!

[Ice009]

Shit Farmer making me look bad here. Come on step it up man. You gotta be better than that on D.

[Spurs Brazil]

TP with 16pts

[Spur-Addict]

"Ford is playing a different game out here than everyone else"-:lol

[mystargtr34]

:lol whos worse, Bonner or Tolliver.

[xellos88330]

"Ford is playing a different game out here than everyone else"-:lol

That had me dying!

[jayc23]

goo bonner

[xellos88330]

Hairston in now.

[Spurs Brazil]

Malik in

[Ice009]

Come on Spurs. Not good defense.

[Spurs Brazil]

Kt J!!

[mystargtr34]

Good to see Kurt hitting that 12-15 footer

[xellos88330]

stoudamire in for parker

[jayc23]

salim

[Ice009]

Farmer's defense is pretty bad by the sounds of it. You were right on that TiMVP.

[xellos88330]

Bonner again for 3

[timvp]

Bolliver 3-13 :depressed

[timvp]

Make that 4-for-14 :smokin

[Spurs Brazil]

Bonner 333333333333333

[Ice009]

I would have liked to have seen Hill guard Tj Ford. Stoudamire doesn't sound too good for anything except offense.

[tav1]

Bolliver 3-13 :depressed

That just needs a Godzilla graphic.

[jayc23]

Hills a wayyyy more versatile player than stoudamire

[xellos88330]

Hills a wayyyy more versatile player than stoudamire

I agree. :toast

[mystargtr34]

Bolliver 3-13 :depressed

:lol one negative is worse than two negatives so hopefully that combo wont be together during the seasno.

[Ice009]

Bonner putting his hand up to not be traded? ;)

[ElNono]

Spam Alert in the political forum

[tomtom]

slow start for stoudamire

[mystargtr34]

:lol i think the announcers are hurt over Parkers assasination of Ford.

[xellos88330]

Watkins in! Probably for some interior D

[mystargtr34]

WATTTTKIINS... make your case

[Ice009]

YES Darryl still here?????????


I thought he got cut???????

[ace3g]

Watkins in the game

[xellos88330]

Nice teamwork resulting in Farmer 3

[tomtom]

farmer for 333

[Spurs Brazil]

Farmer 3333333333333

[Ice009]

That's my boy Farmer. Good shot.

[ace3g]

Farmer 3!!!

[xellos88330]

Farmer another 3

[Ice009]

Farmer again. FUCKING AWESOME. Give Farmer the green light and forget about Tolliver.

[mystargtr34]

Farmer with 7 quick points.

[Spurs Brazil]

Farmer again!!!!!

Spurs up 11

[ace3g]

another Farmer 3!!!

[xellos88330]

Hairston Layup!

[mystargtr34]

Bonner now :lol.

[jayc23]

Bonner

[Spurs Brazil]

Bonner!!!!!!!

8pts

[xellos88330]

Bonner 2pt

[Ice009]

12-4 run out of the time out since Watkins came in. Coincidence? or has that lane been shut down for the Pacers?

[jayc23]

Go bonner ... earn that salary !!!

[Spurs Brazil]

Spurs up 61-49 at the half

[mystargtr34]

Damn Farmer ruined his percentage with that heave.. should of passed to Bonner.

[Bruno]

Tolliver in 4 games and a half :
FG : 13/45
3P : 5/22

:depressed

[xellos88330]

Damn Farmer ruined his percentage with that heave.. should of passed to Bonner.

:lmao

[jayc23]

Tolliver needs to go throw bricks in Dleague or europe where he belongs

[xellos88330]

I think Tolliver should talk to Chip.

[tav1]

Farmer is going to be a difficult cut

Stoudamire seems to have settled and is playing okay

Bonner's offense is better than Tolliver's, but Tolliver hustles for the boards. Bolliver is a nightmare as two players, could be nice as one

[tav1]

Everyone says "Tolliver can really shoot it." But he can't.

[timvp]

Tolliver in 4 games and a half :
FG : 13/45
3P : 5/22

:depressed

After summer league, I wondered whether Tolliver's shooting was a fluke. Might be too early to call it a fluke but it sure seems like it.

Amazingly enough, Pop and the Spurs don't seem to care about his shooting percentages even though he has no history of being a deadeye outside of summer league.

[jayc23]

Farmer is going to be a difficult cut

Stoudamire seems to have settled and is playing okay

Bonner's offense is better than Tolliver's, but Tolliver hustles for the boards. Bolliver is a nightmare as two players, could be nice as one

I just don't see what Stoudamire provides that others can't... hes short, doesn't play defense.. mabe he passes ok, I mean we have mason... where does stoud. fit...

[tav1]

I just don't see what Stoudamire provides that others can't... hes short, doesn't play defense.. mabe he passes ok, I mean we have mason... where does stoud. fit...

Mason is a shooting guard; Stoudamire would play point behind Hill.

[xellos88330]

Box score shows stoudamire with 3 assists. Is this correct?

[tav1]

After summer league, I wondered whether Tolliver's shooting was a fluke. Might be too early to call it a fluke but it sure seems like it.

Amazingly enough, Pop and the Spurs don't seem to care about his shooting percentages even though he has no history of being a deadeye outside of summer league.

This man-crush is a real head scratcher.

I hope they see the light and cut Tolliver. He doesn't deserve a roster spot.

[tav1]

Box score shows stoudamire with 3 assists. Is this correct?

Yes, I think so.

[ss1986v2]

Mason is a shooting guard; Stoudamire would play point behind Hill.
salim isnt a point though. in fact, masons probably better at running the point than salim is.

[Bruno]

After summer league, I wondered whether Tolliver's shooting was a fluke. Might be too early to call it a fluke but it sure seems like it.

Amazingly enough, Pop and the Spurs don't seem to care about his shooting percentages even though he has no history of being a deadeye outside of summer league.

When Pop considered that a player is a great shooter , he doesn't care when he is in a bad shooting stretch. Remember lest year when Finley was ice cold, Pop just told him to continue to shoot and not to worry.

Now, I also wonder why pop put Tolliver in the "great shooter" category. It's odd given his shooting resume. Maybe he is/was great during practices.

[Ice009]

Farmer is going to be a difficult cut

Stoudamire seems to have settled and is playing okay

Bonner's offense is better than Tolliver's, but Tolliver hustles for the boards. Bolliver is a nightmare as two players, could be nice as one

Are you watching the game???

How the heck can you pick Stoudamire over Farmer in half a game? And from what I've read he is not a point guard.

[tav1]

salim isnt a point though. in fact, masons probably better at running the point than salim is.

Salim's function is not to distribute the ball, it's to cross the time line and shoot it when he's open. Some point guards do that.

[Spur-Addict]

salim isnt a point though. in fact, masons probably better at running the point than salim is.

As long as he doesn't turn the ball over and halt the offense (or either of the two), then i'm fine with a scoring point guard.

[Spurs Brazil]

If Ian was healthy and playing Tolliver would be cut.

With Ian injury Tolliver will stay unless Pop choose Watkins, but I don't think he'll do this

[tav1]

Are you watching the game???

How the heck can you pick Stoudamire over Farmer in half a game?

How have I picked Stoudamire over Farmer? Too much crack in your pipe, methinks.

[Spurs Brazil]

Mason is the PG now

[Spurs Brazil]

Finley 33333333333333

[xellos88330]

Fin 3

[xellos88330]

Fin again for 3

[Spurs Brazil]

Finley 333333333333333333333

[Ice009]

When Pop considered that a player is a great shooter , he doesn't care when he is in a bad shooting stretch. Remember lest year when Finley was ice cold, Pop just told him to continue to shoot and not to worry.

Now, I also wonder why pop put Tolliver in the "great shooter" category. It's odd given his shooting resume. Maybe he is/was great during practices.

hmm that sounds like what Tim is basing his opinion on. They both must have seen Tolliver light it up in practice. The thing is practice doesn't always translate to games does it?

[ss1986v2]

Salim's function is not to distribute the ball, it's to cross the time line and shoot it when he's open. Some point guards do that.
well, then we are right back with the original question: what does salim provide that others dont already? why not just have mason fill that role? he did just fine in pretty much that same role last year (3rd line reserve scoring point).

[xellos88330]

Mason 3

[Spurs Brazil]

Mason 3333333333

[xellos88330]

Mason back to back 3's

[Spurs Brazil]

Mson 33333333333333333333333333

[mystargtr34]

Good to see Mason hitting.

[Bruno]

Rashooooooooooooooo

[Ice009]

How have I picked Stoudamire over Farmer?

I just thought maybe you're watching the game and seeing more out of Stoudamire than I am geting listening to the radio.

[tav1]

well, then we are right back with the original question: what does salim provide that others dont already? why not just have mason fill that role? he did just fine in pretty much that same role last year (3rd line reserve scoring point).

because Mason is a shooting guard....

[Ice009]

AWESOME stuff from Mason and Finley.

[Spurs Brazil]

TP 17pts 8asts

[xellos88330]

Mason kicking some arse tonight on O

[Spurs Brazil]

Mason again!!!!

[ss1986v2]

because Mason is a shooting guard....
so is salim. we arent getting anywhere with this...

[xellos88330]

Tolliver dunk!!

[jayc23]

awww he dunked?... he shoulda bombed a 3 ... hes good at it

[Ice009]

because Mason is a shooting guard....

I'd rather Mason run the point than Stoudamire.

Unless Stoudamire can light it up then he won't be much help in any other areas. I don't know about his defense or ball handling.

Mason again!

[tav1]

I just thought maybe you're watching the game and seeing more out of Stoudamire than I am geting listening to the radio.

No, my current wishlist includes a waived Vaughn, a cut Tolliver, Hairston to Europe, and Farmer and stoudamire on the team. But I'm not leaving in cookies by the chimney, if you know what I mean.

[mystargtr34]

because Mason is a shooting guard....

Their roles wont be all that different, neither will be handling the ball excessivley, Mason probably more so. Stoudamire's PG play will consist of bringing the ball up the court and initiating. Other than that, stay up top and shoot 3s

[Bruno]

Stoudamire = Farmer = wild gunner.

[xellos88330]

heh. austin croshere. he got me so trashed duing the pacers lakers finals. had to take a shot every time he scored. i dont remember the end of the game.

[xellos88330]

ouch. bad mental lapse by udoka

[Ice009]

Stoudamire = Farmer = wild gunner.

They both seem them same so far don't they? The question is who is the better defender?

[mystargtr34]

Is this guy sayin boom baby retarded?

[jayc23]

they switched brick layers

[Spurs Brazil]

Salim is back

[xellos88330]

Is this guy sayin boom baby retarded?

I think so, he states the obvious alot too. One of those Bill Walton moments.

[Ice009]

Is this guy sayin boom baby retarded?

When are we going to get a Spurs feed. This shit sucks.

[mystargtr34]

they switched brick layers

:lol

[jayc23]

go bonner!

[Spurs Brazil]

That's ugly now

[xellos88330]

Kick his ass Bonner!

[tav1]

they switched brick layers

:rolleyes I don't get it.

[Ice009]

Spurs not really playing well in this third quarter.

[tav1]

Spurs not really playing well in this third quarter.

yeah, sounds sloppy and ugly.

[timvp]

Pargo = Stoudamire = Farmer = wild gunner.

Fixed :)

[jayc23]

:rolleyes I don't get it.

They sub'd bonner for tolliver

[Ice009]

Is anyone actually watching the game? Is there any video links?


Get Watkins back out there. I wanna see if the D stiffens up with him out there.

[xellos88330]

The Spurs took a break defending the 3 and Pacers made them pay.

[ElNono]

Bonner... 2 rebounds in 16 mins...

[tav1]

They sub'd bonner for tolliver

No, I got that. I mean I don't get Pop's fascination with Bolliver.

[Bruno]

Fixed :)

You can also add NVE to that list. :)

[mystargtr34]

Who said they were gonna kill Bonner... wasnt it Harrison frmo the Pacers :lol.

Maybe Bonner should punch in his weight division.

[tav1]

Is anyone actually watching the game? Is there any video links?


Get Watkins back out there. I wanna see if the D stiffens up with him out there.

Watkins has not really played any meaningful minutes this preseason. I don't think the coaching staff is high on him.

[ElNono]

I had to say it... now Bonner with another board... :lol

[xellos88330]

Stoudamire J

[Spurs Brazil]

Salim scores

Spurs up 7

[xellos88330]

Nice pass Oberto to Bonner

[Spur-Addict]

Bonner again

[tav1]

You can also add NVE to that list. :)

NVE = Stoudamire = Pargo = Stoudamire = Farmer = Wild Gunner

[ElNono]

SJax = NVE = Stoudamire = Pargo = Stoudamire = Farmer = Wild Gunner

[Spurs Brazil]

Spurs up 9 after the 3rd

[Ice009]

Farmer still put up more points in a quicker amount of time. I think he's a good drought buster.

How many times has Oberto been blocked now? Geez Oberto. Jump up a bit.

[tav1]

SJax = NVE = Stoudamire = Pargo = Stoudamire = Farmer = Wild Gunner

But the craziest wild gunner of them all is 6'8'' pf. Epic black hole.

[xellos88330]

Farmer still put up more points in a quicker amount of time. I think he's a good drought buster.

How many times has Oberto been blocked now? Geez Oberto. Jump up a bit.

Three times I think.

[tav1]

Farmer still put up more points in a quicker amount of time. I think he's a good drought buster.

How many times has Oberto been blocked now? Geez Oberto. Jump up a bit.

I like Farmer best of the gunners, not counting Jax, who was a bad ass.

[Ice009]

No Green tonight at all?

[tav1]

Hairston not getting much pt, either. No Green, no Gaines. Were they cut?

[xellos88330]

The other radio broadcaster kinda reminds me of that movie "Radio" with Cuba Gooding Jr.

[SpursFanFirst]

how are you guys able to watch this game?

[xellos88330]

how are you guys able to watch this game?

We aren't watching it. Listening to the Pacers broadcast.

[Ice009]

I like Farmer best of the gunners, not counting Jax, who was a bad ass.

Jax was pretty good last night in the game against Milwaukee. He made some pretty darn good moves to the rack and finished, also make some slick passes, plus of course drained some threes. Is it me or has SJax really improved his ball handling since he left the Spurs?

[xellos88330]

"how Can He Shoot If It He Is On His Head?!!"

[SpursFanFirst]

We aren't watching it. Listening to the Pacers broadcast.


Oh, OK. I just asked our sports guy if he had it pulled up somewhere, but he said it isn't on here either.
Weird.

[timtonymanu]

wow Bonner has 10 points.

[Spur-Addict]

The "Boom Baby" guy has been laying into Ford all night.

[xellos88330]

Mason in

[The Truth #6]

I agree the Bolliver tandem makes no sense. But using Tolliver as a slap in the face to Bonner somehow makes sense considering how Pop seems to create doghouse scenarios.

I could be wrong but I'm preparing myself for a year of weird Bonner/Tolliver scenarios, like a bad buddy cop movie.

[Ice009]

I agree the Bolliver tandem makes no sense. But using Tolliver as a slap in the face to Bonner somehow makes sense considering how Pop seems to create doghouse scenarios.

I could be wrong but I'm preparing myself for a year of weird Bonner/Tolliver scenarios, like a bad buddy cop movie.

That made me lol.

[mystargtr34]

Malik scores.

[xellos88330]

Hairston Jumper

[xellos88330]

Mason 3

[timtonymanu]

Mason for 3!

[Ice009]

Mason!

[timvp]

Good to see Mason having a good game. Although his one-dimensional play is apparent again.

[xellos88330]

Watkins in for Oberto.

[xellos88330]

Bonner 3