View Full Version : Stats-Generated Scouting Report: Matt Bonner
phxspurfan
10-19-2008, 11:16 PM
Sorry if this is already known. I found the reports on all the Spurs players sometimes right on, sometimes faily inaccurate. But it's a valiant attempt.
http://www.nbapostup.com/content/matt-bonner
Matt Bonner does not have much scoring ability
Definitely wont shoot it much
Shoots a three at any time
Pretty good three point marksman
Definitely will not get to the line much
Outstanding free throw shooter
Very good outside shooter
Weak driving to the basket
Weak post up game
Not a runner of the floor
Matt Bonner is not much of an offensive rebounder
Not a good defensive rebounder
Matt Bonner is not a real passer
Bad ball handling skills
Matt Bonner is not a player who will get steals
Not a player who will get blocks
Bad fighting off wide open shots
Players can blow right past him
Solid post presence defensively
Can not defend in transition
Matt Bonner is not overly strong
Has no quickness
Matt Bonner is more of a marginal basketball player but can be effective as an end of the bench player
xcoriate
10-19-2008, 11:49 PM
Interesting site... What I love though is that you could have gone with any Spurs player and for some reason went with Matt Bonner!?!?
Not TD, not TP not Manu... Matt Bonner?
Tully365
10-20-2008, 12:14 AM
Sorry if this is already known. I found the reports on all the Spurs players sometimes right on, sometimes faily inaccurate. But it's a valiant attempt.
http://www.nbapostup.com/content/matt-bonner
Matt Bonner is more of a marginal basketball player but can be effective as an end of the bench player
I think that sums it up, which is why it always surprises me when people go crazy about Bonner not being a starter-type player.
tp2021
10-20-2008, 12:25 AM
I think people take issue with his salary being disproportional to his contribution.
jayc23
10-20-2008, 12:32 AM
I like this one
Jacque Vaughn is a poor basketball player with borderline NBA skills
http://www.nbapostup.com/content/jacque-vaughn
Tully365
10-20-2008, 12:33 AM
I think people take issue with his salary being disproportional to his contribution.
I understand that view-- but maybe Bonner's greatest contribution was allowing the Spurs to unload Rasho's even larger salary, which is 8.4 mil this year.
MagnusKrauss
10-20-2008, 02:31 AM
To put things into perspective:
Bruce Bowen Statistics Generated Scouting Report
Bruce Bowen does not have much scoring ability
Definitely wont shoot it much
Looks for the three at times
Excellent three point shooter
Not looking to draw fouls
Disaster from the free throw stripe
Outstanding pure shooter
Awful getting to the hoop
Poor inside game
Not a threat in the running game
Bruce Bowen never gets offensive rebounds
Poor on the defensive board
Bruce Bowen is not much of a passer
Good decision maker
Bruce Bowen is not a player who will get steals
Not a player who will get blocks
Very weak outside defensively
Mediocre perimeter defender
Poor defensively in the post
Struggles getting back on defense
Bruce Bowen definitely needs to get stronger
Very little quickness
Bruce Bowen needs a lot of work and is lucky to be an NBA basketball player
mountainballer
10-20-2008, 02:40 AM
To put things into perspective:
Bruce Bowen Statistics Generated Scouting Report
Bruce Bowen does not have much scoring ability
Definitely wont shoot it much
Looks for the three at times
Excellent three point shooter
Not looking to draw fouls
Disaster from the free throw stripe
Outstanding pure shooter
Awful getting to the hoop
Poor inside game
Not a threat in the running game
Bruce Bowen never gets offensive rebounds
Poor on the defensive board
Bruce Bowen is not much of a passer
Good decision maker
Bruce Bowen is not a player who will get steals
Not a player who will get blocks
Very weak outside defensively
Mediocre perimeter defender
Poor defensively in the post
Struggles getting back on defense
Bruce Bowen definitely needs to get stronger
Very little quickness
Bruce Bowen needs a lot of work and is lucky to be an NBA basketball player
:lol
Bowen's profile was the first I read when I looked at some others reports about Spurs players and I thought the same like you. whatever statistical method this site uses, its obviously crap. if they are not able to generate an accurate analysis about the defensive abilities from some stats (which isn't easy to do), they shouldn't talk about defensive abilities at all. otherwise it happens like this and you get an "analysis", that is in fact totally wrong.
MagnusKrauss
10-20-2008, 02:43 AM
also, not to diss fans of the kiwi....
Sean Marks Statistics Generated Scouting Report
Sean Marks is definitely not a scoring threat
Takes an average amount of shots
Poor from the three point line
Gets fouled often
Not a good free throw shooter
Adequate from 15-20 feet
Poor driving to the basket
Outstanding post up player
Has trouble running the floor
Sean Marks is not a good offensive rebounder
Does a great job on the defensive glass
Sean Marks is not much of a passer
Bad ball handling skills
Sean Marks gets an average amount of steals
Sensational shot blocker
Weak at denying the open attempt
Players can blow right past him
Terrific post defender
Can not defend in transition
Sean Marks is extremely strong
Little quickness
Sean Marks is a very good basketball player who will start for your team
the site isn't very accurate.
wildbill2u
10-20-2008, 03:41 AM
Statistics aren't lies but liars can use statistics. Some of the conclusions seem to be in opposition to each other.
Barbie
10-20-2008, 04:12 AM
omg, i bet if i wuz on that scouting report it would say im so pretty n smart n pretty n inteiligant. Plus i luv to play D, or at least Ken's D <3
:cheer
mathbzh
10-20-2008, 05:00 AM
I never saw any decent statisical individual defensive rating. But if you start from blocks and steals you will never have a good rating, you will just reward gamblers (even if a couple of great defensive players are also great shotblockers or "stealers").
SenorSpur
10-20-2008, 09:04 AM
From that scouting report, you'd wonder how Bonner ever made it to the NBA
ElNono
10-20-2008, 09:11 AM
From that scouting report, you'd wonder how Bonner ever made it to the NBA
Sometimes I wonder that WITHOUT looking at that report...
SenorSpur
10-20-2008, 10:19 AM
Sometimes I wonder that WITHOUT looking at that report...
:lmao
Fingaroll44
10-20-2008, 01:01 PM
I like this one
Jacque Vaughn is a poor basketball player with borderline NBA skills
http://www.nbapostup.com/content/jacque-vaughn
yet he's managed to stay in the nba for years and years
Ed Helicopter Jones
10-20-2008, 03:32 PM
To put things into perspective:
Bruce Bowen Statistics Generated Scouting Report
Bruce Bowen does not have much scoring ability
Definitely wont shoot it much
Looks for the three at times
Excellent three point shooter
Not looking to draw fouls
Disaster from the free throw stripe
Outstanding pure shooter
Awful getting to the hoop
Poor inside game
Not a threat in the running game
Bruce Bowen never gets offensive rebounds
Poor on the defensive board
Bruce Bowen is not much of a passer
Good decision maker
Bruce Bowen is not a player who will get steals
Not a player who will get blocks
Very weak outside defensively
Mediocre perimeter defender
Poor defensively in the post
Struggles getting back on defense
Bruce Bowen definitely needs to get stronger
Very little quickness
Bruce Bowen needs a lot of work and is lucky to be an NBA basketball player
It appears that this program factors steals and blocks as its primary defensive statistics. If it's sophisticated enough (a big "if") it might even factor into its analysis the number of points a defender gives up.
What it obviously doesn't consider is who that person is guarding. Since Bruce's job is to cover the other team's best player every night it must appear to this program that he's being lit up, and, compounding that with the fact that Bruce doesn't get a lot of steals, blocks or defensive rebounds he obviously seems to be a crappy defender based upon this program's calculations.
intlspurshk
10-20-2008, 09:58 PM
I understand that view-- but maybe Bonner's greatest contribution was allowing the Spurs to unload Rasho's even larger salary, which is 8.4 mil this year.
That contribution should be finished last year when his contract was renewed
SpurSupremacist
10-21-2008, 05:56 AM
I guarantee you one thing, Bonner would put up better numbers in a starting role than Mahinmi would.
Indazone
10-21-2008, 10:17 AM
SCOLA THREAD!!! :lol
MrChug
10-21-2008, 11:25 AM
I think people take issue with his salary being disproportional to his contribution.
Well said. We have a winner.
Also, I disagree with the following:
-Matt Bonner is not much of an offensive rebounder
-Not a good defensive rebounder
That's not his roll. He's a fantastic offensive rebounder and on occasion has become THE very source of energy coming off the bench. Although I don't think he's a great (even good) player, I think he could serve a purpose here and is fearless.
But all in all????? I THINK THIS SITE IS SHIT. Thanks for playing.
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