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Evan
10-22-2008, 12:00 PM
http://www.fightlinker.com/pics/dayofreckoning.jpg


Finally got a iron clad date...

Yeah this is early but I am curious how to see this all shapes up. That thing isn't selling 120,000 buys.

LEONARD
10-22-2008, 12:04 PM
Did a final PPV buyrate ever come out for Affliction in July?

angelbelow
10-22-2008, 12:14 PM
fedor!!!!!!!

Evan
10-22-2008, 12:17 PM
Did a final PPV buyrate ever come out for Affliction in July?

Just those rumors we all heard about in the summer....80k to 140k with Tom claiming at least 100k.

Note all the affiliations at the top of the poster…between those and that payroll…how are they possibly going to make a dime with so much much money being split up?

While I maintain my stance that affliction is nothing but a commercial they are still a business and money must be made.

BlackSwordsMan
10-22-2008, 12:18 PM
Yay

dbreiden83080
10-22-2008, 12:24 PM
Just those rumors we all heard about in the summer....80k to 140k with Tom claiming at least 100k.

Note all the affiliations at the top of the poster…between those and that payroll…how are they possibly going to make a dime with so much much money being split up?

While I maintain my stance that affliction is nothing but a commercial they are still a business and money must be made.

Question Evan

DO they really have to make any money on the fights themselves if the revenue they are getting from their merchandise sales is so good they can just put that back into the fights?? I mean you said that their merchandise has gone way up since they have so many promotional tie ins to the fight game now right?

Evan
10-22-2008, 12:36 PM
Question Evan

DO they really have to make any money on the fights themselves if the revenue they are getting from their merchandise sales is so good they can just put that back into the fights?? ?

I dunno….just guessing but I am sure its irrelevant where they make their money but losing 15 million on a fight to make 10 million in t-shirt sales is still losing 5 million. Plus you factor in the massive hassle of doing shows.


I mean you said that their merchandise has gone way up since they have so many promotional tie ins to the fight game now right?

I have never said that.

polandprzem
10-22-2008, 12:39 PM
Ehh Affliction won't stay long ...

As I can see same names every card and they are bringing old guys like Lindland ?

Evan
10-22-2008, 12:43 PM
Ehh Affliction won't stay long ...

As I can see same names every card and they are bringing old guys like Lindland ?


Bingo

They need to raid small gyms and develop fighters…who was it that said "There is no such thing as a Matt Lindland fan!"

Was it Rampage?

dbreiden83080
10-22-2008, 12:43 PM
I have never said that.

Well just clarify for me if you could?

"They just want to get there name out there on MMA sites as much as possible to sell their clothes. Think of how often they are talked about and think about how much they would have cost them in true commercial ads. Yeah Affliction MMA has probably gone in the red 7 million (just guessing) but they have probably gotten back 40 million in free ads and sales (another guess.)"

Just want clarification if i am misunderstandng something. If their merchandise sales are up through all the advertsing in the fight game or you can't say one way or another. You know more about this than me, not trying to start anything

Evan
10-22-2008, 12:53 PM
Well just clarify for me if you could?

"They just want to get there name out there on MMA sites as much as possible to sell their clothes. Think of how often they are talked about and think about how much they would have cost them in true commercial ads. Yeah Affliction MMA has probably gone in the red 7 million (just guessing) but they have probably gotten back 40 million in free ads and sales (another guess.)"

Just want clarification if i am misunderstandng something. If their merchandise sales are up through all the advertsing in the fight game or you can't say one way or another.


Ah ok…I see.

No I stand by all of that. I think it’s a reasonable assumption. Now, I never said sales have gone up…the t-shirt bizness seems to be a fading fad. They were probably doing better when they were the unofficial t-shirt sponsor of the UFC.

Here's another nugget….I would bet everything I own that the UFC owns a piece of affliction wrapped up in a mountain of non disclosure agreements. They took on a piece of Zyience and CBS took on a piece of Pro-Elite so I guess its common practice.

polandprzem
10-22-2008, 12:57 PM
Bingo

They need to raid small gyms and develop fighters…who was it that said "There is no such thing as a Matt Lindland fan!"

Was it Rampage?

Yup, they have absolutely no background.

Now with "Ultimate Fighter" UFC got great field for fighters to show up themselves. That was awesome idea and that can grow even faster in the world as the reality shows were everywhere and it is not that difficult to do such show.

Now in Poland well I'm awed there are so many fans and they have great knowledge about this sport and martial arts itself.
I wonder when teh expansion of that sport will stop. All in all boxing is now less popular then it was IMO. And that mostly because we have not much elite boxers and there are too many belts in boxing - what a shit.
Ofcourse money is the biggest problem in sports in Poland that why I think the expansion of this sport cannot be as great as people would love to.

Evan
10-22-2008, 01:03 PM
Yeah I wonder how far into Europe they plan on going...

polandprzem
10-22-2008, 01:03 PM
Yeah I wonder how far into Europe they plan on going...

You mean UFC?
You mean TUF?

Evan
10-22-2008, 01:11 PM
You mean UFC?
You mean TUF?

both

polandprzem
10-22-2008, 01:23 PM
It depends on country.
Well we have our own polish MMA league and many countrys as well (I guess).

UFC right now is in a position, well like and NBA. Many fighters would love to go there.
Ultimate ... is an UFC show. I think dana could go to many european countries to know what is going on there. I know he do not want to make it fast but he wants to make is steady. That gave him success - eating with a teaspoon not with hands!

angelbelow
10-22-2008, 02:23 PM
Ehh Affliction won't stay long ...

As I can see same names every card and they are bringing old guys like Lindland ?

thats a great point, thats the first thing i noticed too.

ATRAIN
10-22-2008, 04:35 PM
So you guys going to be mad when my boy AA whoops up on Fedor?

Evan
10-22-2008, 05:45 PM
So you guys going to be mad when my boy AA whoops up on Fedor?

Until Fedor stops fighting cans I am always rooting against Fedor.

LEONARD
10-22-2008, 06:11 PM
So you guys going to be mad when my boy AA whoops up on Fedor?

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Evan
10-28-2008, 09:56 PM
updated rumored card. You can probably wipe out 2 or 3 fights for being wrong or injury.

- Fedor Emelianenko vs. Andrei Arlovski
- Josh Barnett vs. Alexander Emelianenko <-NO WAY does this happen
- Tim Sylvia vs. TBA
- Vladimir Matyushenko vs. Antonio Rogerio Nogueira
- Matt Lindland vs. Renato "Babalu" Sobral or Trevor Prangley?
- Chris Horodecki vs. Dan Lauzon <- fight of the night possibly
- Gegard Mousasi vs. Vitor Belfort
- Paul Buentello vs. Roy Nelson
- Pedro Rizzo vs. Ben Rothwell
- Jay Hieron vs. Drew Fickett
- Jason High vs. Mike Pyle

Great card for the die hards but it means nothing to causal fans. I don't know what affliction needs to do but they won't get anywhere reaching out to die hards. The ones I bolded are the only ones that will ring a bell with casual fans IMO.

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10-28-2008, 09:59 PM
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Come on Leonard, give us some breakdown big guy. What is your Key-Board Broken??

Evan
10-29-2008, 02:21 PM
This main event fight has interesting ramifications.

If Arlovski loses his value plummets for when he comes back to the UFC. If he wins he is then the best HW and will shatter the bank. He has so much to gain.

Fedor. If he wins his value barely goes up since nobody will see the fight and if he loses his value bottoms out. Nobody will be willing to pay an obscene amount for an obscure Russian.

ATRAIN
10-29-2008, 02:31 PM
how is big nog on there? Is his UFC contract almost over?

Evan
10-29-2008, 02:35 PM
how is big nog on there? Is his UFC contract almost over?

I have no idea…

Part of me thinks he isn't in the UFC already because of the confusion it would cause with the similarities.

ATRAIN
10-29-2008, 02:39 PM
His brother was over there right? Maybe they got confused or something.

Evan
10-29-2008, 02:49 PM
His brother was over there right? Maybe they got confused or something.

Now I think you're confused.

Thats not the UFC Nog on the poster. I didn't catch that in your post...

ATRAIN
10-29-2008, 02:56 PM
Now I think you're confused.

Thats not the UFC Nog on the poster. I didn't catch that in your post...

It looks like him

LEONARD
10-29-2008, 03:34 PM
It looks like him

http://www.fighting-mma.com/images/nogueira-brothers.jpg

Evan
10-29-2008, 03:57 PM
It looks like him

which is why I don't think he is in the UFC. Way too much confusion.

Lil Nog of Affliction is the older brother of Big Nog of the UFC.

angelbelow
10-29-2008, 04:00 PM
which is why I don't think he is in the UFC. Way too much confusion.

Lil Nog of Affliction is the older brother of Big Nog of the UFC.

at one point i seriously thought they were the same person haha.

LEONARD
10-29-2008, 04:43 PM
which is why I don't think he is in the UFC. Way too much confusion.

Lil Nog of Affliction is the older brother of Big Nog of the UFC.

Twins...was Lil Nog born first?

Evan
10-29-2008, 06:18 PM
Twins...was Lil Nog born first?

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I thought there was a couple years between them......

dallaskd
10-29-2008, 07:10 PM
twins....

polandprzem
10-30-2008, 03:01 AM
I thought one was a boy and second was a girl



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Evan
11-18-2008, 12:47 PM
Ticket sales go on today

Hopefully nobody gets hurt...we wouldn't want anyone on the affliction staff to punch a pregnant lady in the belly in anger.

http://www.afflictionclothing.com/pictures/reckoningcard3.jpg

Evan
11-18-2008, 12:51 PM
^^^^^^^Baby Fedor who telegraphs his punches more than any fighter in MMA.

Not so Fedor.....

desflood
11-18-2008, 12:53 PM
What a card.

Evan
11-18-2008, 01:01 PM
^^^^^^^^^^$10 the final card doesn't look like that or doesn't happen at all. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

robbie380
11-18-2008, 01:01 PM
wow what a stacked freakin card :toast

any rumors on barnett's potential opponent?

LEONARD
11-18-2008, 01:06 PM
Buentello vs Kiril!!?? Oh $hit...love it...

this card will be awesome...

Evan
11-18-2008, 01:07 PM
Originally Fedor...now...who knows.

And notice lil nog's face is photo shopped over big nogs with the PRIDE HW belt.

Evan
11-18-2008, 01:07 PM
Buentello vs Kiril!!?? Oh $hit...love it...

this card will be awesome...

The best part was he was in inside mma last week bashing Randy for fighting someone with so few fights... :lmao

LEONARD
11-18-2008, 01:08 PM
lol @ Lil Nog...

We need Fedor vs Josh in '09 too...

Evan
11-18-2008, 01:14 PM
lol @ Lil Nog...

We need Fedor vs Josh in '09 too...

We should make a bet.........

Evan
11-18-2008, 01:16 PM
*coughs*

Evan
11-18-2008, 01:17 PM
*taps cane on the paypal jar*

Evan
11-18-2008, 01:17 PM
*looks around*

LEONARD
11-18-2008, 01:17 PM
suck it...so I owe you $20???

Evan
11-18-2008, 01:18 PM
oh yeah I forgot all about that

Evan
11-18-2008, 01:25 PM
we can go double or nothun on some other card before 09 if you like

LEONARD
11-18-2008, 01:38 PM
Silva - Rampage?

Evan
11-18-2008, 01:42 PM
Give me 3 or 4 options and tell me who you got and let me pick my fight.

LEONARD
11-18-2008, 03:02 PM
I have Silva over Rampage.

I have Yoshida over Koscheck.

I have Nog over Mir.

I have Rashad over Forrest.

I have Hendo over Rich.

I have Fedor over AA.

tlongII
11-18-2008, 03:09 PM
This will be a nice card if it happens. I would definitely hit up my local sports bar for it.

Evan
11-18-2008, 03:10 PM
I have Rashad over Forrest..

I'll take that....

LEONARD
11-18-2008, 03:18 PM
Okay, so either $40 or nothing come Dec 27th...don't let me forget...lol

Evan
11-18-2008, 03:27 PM
sounds good

I almost took Yoshida over Koscheck.