UFC 91: Couture vs. Lesnar

[dbreiden83080]

^^

That is a great breakdown of the fight, can't disagree with much there. For me i am 60/40 on Brock winning only because of the in-experience factor. What if he gets hit, how will he handle being in a bad spot, ETC. I do agree that from a matchup standpoint he is a very bad one for Randy though...

[Evan]

Could there be anymore distractions for Randy?

http://www.mixedmartialarts.com/?go=forum.posts&thread=1371817&forum=1&page=1&pc=14

[Evan]

^^

That is a great breakdown of the fight, can't disagree with much there. For me i am 60/40 on Brock winning only because of the in-experience factor. What if he gets hit, how will he handle being in a bad spot, ETC. I do agree that from a matchup standpoint he is a very bad one for Randy though...

I have always liked Jeff...

I don't agree with all of his crazy thoughts on everything from communism to steroids but I always appreciate someone who has convictions with well thought out reasoning behind them. If he wrote a book I would read it the day it came out.

He had some strong feelings on MMA free agency being wide open and I wonder if he is growing tired of it yet. He's always bouncing around and all too often rumored for fights that get canceled. Last year it seemed like he was rumored for every non UFC card, lol.

[dbreiden83080]

When i got home today there were 2 fights i wanted to watch on Randy that i had not seen in a long time. Kevin Randleman's fight with Randy at UFC 28 and the Sylvia fight.. Randleman was a very decorated College wrestler won 2 national titles but he did it at 177 pounds. They fought at Heavyweight and he was about 220 for the fight. Well he controlled Randy fairly easily for the first 2 rds with takedowns and held him down. By Round 3, he was gassed and Randy did what he does, clinch, tripped him, GNP fight's over. For the record Brock dominated in college in the 285lb weight class. Not a good sign for Randy there, but we'll see..

The Sylvia fight i was curious how tired he was taking him down so much and Randy was pretty damn tired by the end of the fight. He was sucking wind really heavy in Round 3 but big, unathletic Sylvia, who knows nothing for pushing the pace (The chicken shit he is), did nothing about it.. That was a great fight for Randy no doubt about it, i just wanted to see how winded he was. So this is the key for Brock. If he gets Randy down and holds him down, combined with having to move Brock around, i can't see where at 45 he won't be out of gas.. At 43 with Sylvia he was tired and didn't get taken down at all. Of course none of that matters if Brock get's nailed in the first 30 seconds, so we'll see...

[dbreiden83080]

Could there be anymore distractions for Randy?

http://www.mixedmartialarts.com/?go=forum.posts&thread=1371817&forum=1&page=1&pc=14

Wow interesting, indeed..

[Evan]

http://www.cdn.sherdog.com/_images/headers/20081114010544_big_preview.JPG

yikes

[Evan]

http://www.fightlinker.com/pics/couturelesnar3.jpg

[desflood]

What's the time limit for changing picks? I've changed my mind about Randy/Brock three times this morning already.

[ATRAIN]

What's the time limit for changing picks? I've changed my mind about Randy/Brock three times this morning already.

You can stop changing your mind when you think Brock is going to win........trust me I know what im talking about :). Last time you didnt believe me and what happened ;).

[desflood]

You can stop changing your mind when you think Brock is going to win........trust me I know what im talking about :). Last time you didnt believe me and what happened ;).
Last time I did believe you and picked the fighter that I thought you had highlighted. Either I read wrong or you changed your pick after I made mine.

So, no more ribbing about how I had no faith in you :lol

[Evan]

What's the time limit for changing picks? I've changed my mind about Randy/Brock three times this morning already.

Kenny and Big Daddy is making my brain hurt. I plan on finalizing my picks tonight after I watch the weigh'ins.

BTW….I was talking to a buddy last night and used your sons line about Brock…your sons humor is popular amongst mma dorks and got a good laugh.

[ATRAIN]

Last time I did believe you and picked the fighter that I thought you had highlighted. Either I read wrong or you changed your pick after I made mine.

So, no more ribbing about how I had no faith in you :lol

LOL I think you read it wrong cause I never edited it. I dont think there was an edit on that post at all :P. I still believe you didnt have faith in me:) but I forgive you des :).

[ATRAIN]

Kenny and Big Daddy is making my brain hurt. I plan on finalizing my picks tonight after I watch the weigh'ins.

BTW….I was talking to a buddy last night and used your sons line about Brock…your sons humor is popular amongst mma dorks and got a good laugh.

yeah same here im still on the fence on that fight as well!!

[desflood]

Kenny and Big Daddy is making my brain hurt. I plan on finalizing my picks tonight after I watch the weigh'ins.

BTW….I was talking to a buddy last night and used your sons line about Brock…your sons humor is popular amongst mma dorks and got a good laugh.
Nice. He's turned into quite the clever little monster since we got rid of cable. No more TV brain.

I don't know about Ken/Joe either - I went with my gut instinct initially, but there have been second thoughts on that one as well.

[Evan]

Big Daddy just got so toyed by BJ I have a hard time believing in him but I believe he is more talented than Kenny

[dbreiden83080]

Big Daddy just got so toyed by BJ I have a hard time believing in him but I believe he is more talented than Kenny

Kenny has better stand-up, he's probably even better on the ground, i think he's mentally tougher as well. I think Kenny's got this one..

[dbreiden83080]

http://www.cdn.sherdog.com/_images/headers/20081114010544_big_preview.JPG

yikes

Re-watched Tim and the Gonzaga fight last night and he was really big and cut, why is he so damn small for this fight? Is that his age or by design??

[dbreiden83080]

New Blog, i love how everyone needs pds of Make-Up for every TV appearance..



IupauGFmmvI

[Evan]

Re-watched Tim and the Gonzaga fight last night and he was really big and cut, why is he so damn small for this fight? Is that his age or by design??

At some point the body just gives out and methinks its to add to speed. Maybe he can't sustain size anymore.

[dbreiden83080]

At some point the body just gives out and methinks its to add to speed. Maybe he can't sustain size anymore.

Sporting that frame there is no way he is out-wrestling Brock. It's just flat out not happening..

[ATRAIN]

Sporting that frame there is no way he is out-wrestling Brock. It's just flat out not happening..

Yeah man, tomm is the day we will see Brock get his first taste at UFC gold and in just 3 fights. Do you guys think he desearves it? Hey are we going to get in the chat room tomm?

[Evan]

Yeah man, tomm is the day we will see Brock get his first taste at UFC gold and in just 3 fights. Do you guys think he desearves it? Hey are we going to get in the chat room tomm?

It wouldn't happen if Randy hadn't of screwed up the entire HW division and come back earlier or never left at all.

But the thing is…who deserves it more? You can't say Mir or Nog because they are tied up because of the Randy mess.

I love the no easy fight UFC mantra.

UFC knows how to pick fights that people want to see…not every fight is popular but you can't please everyone.

So all things considered...I am not sure he does but there is no better match-up that I can think of.

[dbreiden83080]

Look at this break-down on the Sherdog front page i just found..



"Friday, November 14, 2008
by Tomas Rios ([email protected])



Hey you, did you know the UFC is throwing a 45-year-old in the cage with South Dakota’s answer to Ivan Drago? No, this isn’t fodder for John McCain rekindling his sham war on MMA but the actual main event to this Saturday’s hotly anticipated UFC 91 pay-per-view supershow at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas.

Make no mistake, you’d be a Ted Stevens-level dummy to miss out on the heavyweight title bout pitting the immortal Randy Couture against Brock Lesnar, whom I believe is what Dr. Octagon had in mind when he spoke of a “Halfsharkalligatorhalfman.”

Of course, don’t miss out on some critical tussles featuring someone’s “Daddy” taking on Milhouse, a “Rock” trying to resist the water and two of the baddest geeks alive in a fight that will decide MMA’s premier dungeon master. If you’re confused, don’t worry -- so am I.

Randy Couture vs. Brock Lesnar

Randy “The Natural” Couture Scouting Report
Ht/Wt: 6’2/225 lbs.
Age: 45
Hometown: Everett, Wash.
Fighting out of: Las Vegas
Record: 16-8

The stakes: After a seeming eternity of legal wrangling with the UFC, reigning heavyweight champion Randy Couture makes his return to MMA’s juggernaut faced with a vastly different promotion than the one he left. “Minotauro” Nogueira’s interim title belt means Couture is no longer the undisputed champion and then, of course, there’s the small, or massive, matter of Brock Lesnar.

Normally, the only thing 45-year-old men can do to genetic freakazoids in their athletic prime is beat them in a game of chess, but Couture’s name is built on making bookies tear their hair out the morning after his fights. So if you can believe it, taking on Lesnar is just another day at the office for Couture. The only question is if “The Natural” has enough left in the tank to give Father Time another wedgie.

The breakdown: Arguably the personification of what a Greco-Roman wrestler should aspire to be in this sport, Couture has parlayed his Olympic credentials into a style that blends up-close mauling with coldblooded efficiency. While there isn’t a heavyweight around who can match the anomalous physical talents of Lesnar, Couture can chuck bodies with the best of them and no one has been able to solve the puzzle of his dominating clinch game.

The problem for Couture is that Lesnar relies on his explosive shot and lower body takedowns to drag opponents to the mat, where his bulk and pure physicality make him an absolute chore to deal with. That means Couture will have to either collapse the pocket in a hurry or wait on Lesnar’s shot to initiate a clinch. Given Lesnar’s lack of experience, Couture would do well putting the pressure on him from the opening bell and forcing the ginormous one to adapt instead of the other way around.

Brock Lesnar Scouting Report
Ht/Wt: 6’3/265 lbs.
Age: 31
Hometown: Webster, S.D.
Fighting out of: Minneapolis
Record: 2-1

The stakes: Lesnar said he wanted to take on the very best from the start of his astronomically lucrative UFC contract, and he sure is getting his wish in the form of Couture. While Lesnar will remain a primetime commodity regardless of the outcome, he craves the respect that only genuine competition can provide. Couture represents the apex of competition for heavyweights in the UFC, and that is the mountain Lesnar must scale on his quest for athletic legitimacy.

If Lesnar can manage the feat, he’ll be hailed as the future of the division and won’t have to deal with anymore snarky asides about his fistic ballerina days from yours truly. Lose and you have to start wondering if Lesnar jumped on the MMA bandwagon just a little too late. Hard to blame him: I’d rather be handed a belt than have to work for one. That MMA stuff is way hard.

The breakdown: At this point in his nascent career, Lesnar can’t even begin to outthink Couture inside a cage. He’ll have to rely on having the kind of genetics that I thought could only come from a test-tube baby with the DNA of Dan Gable, Babe Zaharias and some Silverback gorilla mixed in for good measure. That means Lesnar has to get Couture on his back in a hurry because the odds of him landing a telegraphed orbital-obfuscating right cross on Couture are about as likely as the odds of Barack Obama turning out to be an actual socialist.

Political prognostications aside, Lesnar’s only hope is to stay focused on hitting one of his turbine-powered shots and getting Couture on his back, where he is most vulnerable. Given Lesnar’s rudimentary jiu-jitsu training, he’ll have to be willing to get buck on Couture while he can because the longer this bout drags on, the more it favors the veteran instincts of Couture. Making like Lil Jon and “Knockin’ Heads Off” from the get-go is Lesnar’s only hope of achieving maximum crunk-osity.


The bottom line: I like the idea of a Kodiak bear disguised as a human in MMA as much as the next guy, but Lesnar just doesn’t have the experience to present much of a threat to Couture. Barring some sort of drastic drop-off from his time on the sidelines, Couture has the perfect style to dismantle physically superior but inexperienced opponents.

Watch for the clinch to be Lesnar’s downfall. Couture will use leverage and dirty boxing to frustrate Lesnar and force him to waste most of his energy on trying to break loose from the death lock that is Couture’s clinch. Don’t worry about Lesnar, though -- someone has to fight Kimbo Slice."

The breakdown is not all that bad but his bias makes it worthless. Another classic example of a guy that just hates Brock because of where he came from and refuses to believe he can beat their MMA GOD and Hero Randy Couture.. The end of that article, a crack about Kimbo, is just ridiculous and nonsense...

[Evan]

Sherdog……….the most biased site in mma. Complete anti UFC agenda.

Japanese and other non UFC orgs are immune to half their reasoning.

As for Lesnar…he was an elite b@dass when he fougth for K-1 and now they take shots at them.

Can't take them seriously….

[Evan]

Hey are we going to get in the chat room tomm?

Last time I went there for a fight everyone was talking about basket weaving or something like that.

[Anti.Hero]

New Blog, i love how everyone needs pds of Make-Up for every TV appearance..



IupauGFmmvI

lmfao!

I'm the grim reaper mf'ers.


I love these vlogs.

[djohn14]

Last time I went there for a fight everyone was talking about basket weaving or something like that.

basket weaving is awesome...dont diss. I probably wont be here, I think im gonna watch this with brother, so i wont be able to comment. I know you all will miss my comments, but Ill try to post asap Sunday morning.

[Evan]

Also Friday, the Nevada State Athletic Commission released financial figures showing that both Couture and Lesnar are guaranteed $250,000. Lesnar gets an extra $200,000 if victorious, while Couture would double his guaranteed money to $500,000 if he wins.

^does not include ppv percentage and misc bonuses.

[Evan]

New Blog, i love how everyone needs pds of Make-Up for every TV appearance..



IupauGFmmvI


LOL!!!!!! That tombstone!!!!!!!!!!! "I'm the grim reaper mother f*ckers!"

[dbreiden83080]

^does not include ppv percentage and misc bonuses.

If the PPV goes as big as they are expecting Brock and Randy will probably make 2 mil or more.. I heard Chuck made well over 2 mil on his 2nd fight with Tito.. The Superstars in the UFC do very well..

[cornbread]

-Randy Couture vs. Brock Lesnar
-Gabriel Gonzaga (#7 Heavyweight in the World)* vs. Josh Hendricks
-Joe Stevenson (#10 Lightweight in the World)* vs. Kenny Florian
-Demian Maia vs. Nathan Quarry
-Dustin Hazelett

[Cant_Be_Faded]

I cannot believe any of you would bet on an old broken couture to beat the most up and coming biggest most explosive fighter in UFC history.

Lesnar is going to roll this chump. Couture is deadly, but he's just too old to counter the quickness Brock will bring to the table.

[dbreiden83080]

I cannot believe any of you would bet on an old broken couture to beat the most up and coming biggest most explosive fighter in UFC history.

Lesnar is going to roll this chump. Couture is deadly, but he's just too old to counter the quickness Brock will bring to the table.

I think a lot of it is, people bet against him in the Tim fight and Gonzaga fight and he won those fights with ease. I don't think he will beat Brock given all he is giving up here but it is Randy and you never know..

[Evan]

I cannot believe any of you would bet on an old broken couture to beat the most up and coming biggest most explosive fighter in UFC history.

MMA is so much more about game plan and mental quickness than strength. But my money is on Brock.

[polandprzem]

1

Randy

[polandprzem]

It's time baby !!!


Those who are on Brock rise your hands so I could see you :)

You still can change your minds!

[Evan]

+1 for the big dumb bronkster

[Anti.Hero]

I cannot believe any of you would bet on an old broken couture to beat the most up and coming biggest most explosive fighter in UFC history.

Lesnar is going to roll this chump. Couture is deadly, but he's just too old to counter the quickness Brock will bring to the table.

LOL, watch more MMA and you will see that size is overrated. Brock is a freak but inexperience in MMA will easily fuck you over.

Brock doesn't do shit when he gets someone on their back. Randy will be able to weather the storm. Brock has had, what, 3 fights? His speed/str makes him favored but the dude is still a rookie.

[dbreiden83080]

Brock doesn't do shit when he gets someone on their back.

Except hammer fist Heath Herring into a bruised bloody ass mess...

[Anti.Hero]

And not be able to finish anyone.

When you are that big and fast you finish. Period. Brock hasn't. Weaksuace.


Randy can fight from his back.

[Evan]

7 hours until a whole lotta answers....

[dbreiden83080]

And not be able to finish anyone.

When you are that big and fast you finish. Period. Brock hasn't. Weaksuace.


Randy can fight from his back.

He's only had 3 fights. Who hands someone like Herring their ass in their 3rd ever MMA fight? The guy had over 40 fights and he smoked him.. Even if Brock loses tonight, his future is bright..

[Anti.Hero]

Exactly. So statements like "Ya'll are all crazy for thinking Randy will win" have no backbone whatsoever.

Brock, the dude with 3 fights, is fighting Randy Couture.

This is not Hughes v. Gracie.

[dbreiden83080]

I've said the last few weeks, i am 60/40 Brock on this. His in-experience could be a huge factor or his physical attributes will win the fight for him. We will find out soon...

[dbreiden83080]

Exactly. So statements like "Ya'll are all crazy for thinking Randy will win" have no backbone whatsoever.

You are not talking about me. I never said Randy can't win this fight.. He's Randy Couture, of course he can win..

[LEONARD]

Are you SURE you're not coming Evan?? 120 inches!!!!!!!!!! :wow:ihit:wow:ihit
http://www.mustangmods.com/ims/u/1076/1495/263770.jpg

Lesnar's penis tattoo will be about 24" long... :lol

[Evan]

ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh I see now. I thought that text message was the screen turned on.

[dbreiden83080]

Are you SURE you're not coming Evan?? 120 inches!!!!!!!!!! :wow:ihit:wow:ihit
http://www.mustangmods.com/ims/u/1076/1495/263770.jpg

Lesnar's penis tattoo will be about 24" long... :lol

:lmao

Brock should get that thing lasered off if for no other reason then, to get people to lay off with the penis jokes..

[Evan]

I don't know why he doesn't...black ink is the easiest color to laser off...

[polandprzem]

man I may realy get good quality of this fight

The stream guys are hot tonight and many guys showing the show

[polandprzem]

guys where ae you gonna wtch this?

I've got some documentary going on - brock, randy - super !

greataest night shift ever :)

[Evan]

yeah we're watching it...

2 1/2 hours

[polandprzem]

:d

[dbreiden83080]

guys where ae you gonna wtch this?

I've got some documentary going on - brock, randy - super !

greataest night shift ever :)

My Dad's in town, and he is into this event, so we are going to split the cost on it. Should be cool...

[polandprzem]

nICE dbreiden

I'm tired as hell, sitting here at work. It's not comfortable, the quality won't be good, size of the screen as well and main guys will go out at 6am- main card starts at 4am so 75 minutes !~

Till that time I will try to watch cavs vs jazz


Ps. If somebody here gonna disturb me - either client or co-worker the person will be dead.
:)

[Anti.Hero]

almost time. Finally the 15th has arrived.

[polandprzem]

I still can't believe that I'm gonna see randy vs Brock

[Evan]

-Its on-

wOOt!

[dbreiden83080]

Maia is an animal on the ground..

[Anti.Hero]

Damn. Every time I catch a Nate fight he gets owned.

[polandprzem]

fooook gonzaga

short fights ... :(

[Evan]

Not sure what Nate was doing...that was awful....

Gonzaga....HW KO machine!

[Anti.Hero]

haha hell yes.

We won't have to wait long for kenflo/randy

[Evan]

"I chose the Randy..."

awesome....hahahaha

[BlackSwordsMan]

wait for the results or play FO3?

[Evan]

The UFC machine keeps churning...5 freaking events in the next 60 days not including tonight.

Amazing.

[dbreiden83080]

Gonzaga looked great but Hendricks looked like shit. I doubt we will see him on any main card anytime soon.. He was a Randy training partner, i hope he found tougher guys than that to push him...

[Evan]

Dustin Hazelett looks like Ben Birdwell...and if you know who that is without the googles...I love you.

[polandprzem]

iMPRESSIVE !

[Anti.Hero]

Man it is fun watching guys who are very good at jujitsu.


That was a good matchup. I would have liked to see a longer fight.

[dbreiden83080]

Alright i am 3-0 heading into the Kenny and Joe fight, maybe the hardest one to call on the card..

[angelbelow]

dude finally. just got home.

[Evan]

now that was all kinds of awesome...KO of the year candidate

[resistanze]

LOL...dude got knocked the fuck out.

[Anti.Hero]

daaaayyuuummmmmmm

[polandprzem]

SECOND TIME i SEE jEREMY STEVENS AND DAMN HE IS EXPLOSIVE AND HAVE REALY GREAT D

WHOOOOOT A BOMB

[Tres_Till_it_MHz]

Damn great knock out from way down town. Dos Anhoes KTFO!

[Anti.Hero]

That was straight out of Mortal Kombat.

[Evan]

that 50 cent guy is 100 kinds of retarded it would seem

[anakha]

I would just like to say that I am now on the Hazelett bandwagon.

[Evan]

That was straight out of Mortal Kombat.

:lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao

Too true!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Evan]

I would just like to say that I am now on the Hazelett bandwagon.

amen

besides collecting arms, anyone who has a Ben Birdwell beard is ok in my book

[BlackSwordsMan]

Time to download the new 50 cent cd

[Evan]

Time to download the new 50 cent cd

buy it bitch!

[BlackSwordsMan]

bitches*

[BlackSwordsMan]

randy via gina carano flashing!

[polandprzem]

FUCK I KNEW IT

Frst

[Evan]

bitches*

You're more than 1 person?

:)

[Anti.Hero]

Ken Mothafuckin Floooooooooo

Hell yeah

[polandprzem]

First time I voted agaist a guy I like more and he won

:shootme

[Tres_Till_it_MHz]

KFLO looks good I thought it would be a war for three rounds.

[anakha]

Damn.

Have all the main card bouts ended in the 1st round so far?

[Evan]

Good for Kenny! He looked awesome.

But he will die by The Penn

[BlackSwordsMan]

we are many

[BlackSwordsMan]

I wish I could travel 2 hours in time so I could see the lesnar fight

[Evan]

Damn.

Have all the main card bouts ended in the 1st round so far?

4-6

The Randy Vs Bronkster next

[polandprzem]

Bock seems to be nervous

good

good

:)

[Evan]

hell I'm nervous...

[Anti.Hero]

That's one scary dude.

[Anti.Hero]

Full Tilt LOL

retirement sponsor :depressed

[BlackSwordsMan]

Stop Talking And Lets Fight

[Evan]

If Brock wins 100% of the MMA websites will implode...hah

[resistanze]

The F-5!

[BlackSwordsMan]

Fucking Fight1!!!!

[BlackSwordsMan]

randy looks soft like he had to cut a lot of weight

[BlackSwordsMan]

or he's old

[Evan]

wow I can't remember the last time I was this tense for a sporting event

[Anti.Hero]

My God Brock Is So Huge.

[BlackSwordsMan]

Hopefully something happens in rd 2...

[Anti.Hero]

I go so scared for Randy when brock almost got full guard!!!

[Evan]

awesome!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11

[resistanze]

Done.

[BlackSwordsMan]

Wow brock is already tired

[BlackSwordsMan]

Can I have my 500$ vbookie dollars back

[Anti.Hero]

damn.

[Evan]

Brock is the real deal

[BlackSwordsMan]

Rofl2===s=d=d=

[BlackSwordsMan]

fedor vs lesnar!

[BlackSwordsMan]

well that was badass time to go back to fall out 3

[Anti.Hero]

God Bless you God.

[Evan]

God Bless you God.

that was funny....:lol

[dbreiden83080]

BROCK is the CHampion BABY

Randy did well though.. Tougher to take down than i thought, but Brock is a load what a fight

[Anti.Hero]

bah. I was dead ass wrong. Randy cut him and was handling the size..I was feelin' good. Then he got caught :depressed

[dbreiden83080]

If that fight went on Randy could have won, Brock was a little tired there and he had a cut but he looked good. He won RD 1, RD 2 was about even and then that big right hand came and that was it. Lesner is only going to get better, that is scary..

[polandprzem]

Every single shit went wrong

First stream stopped working, when I got the new one it was cutting as hell.
Then the guest came just when the fight started and mothgerfucker was asking me questions and his fucking bitch was talking about my shit being too short ... F her... when I was done with them I saw 15 last secods of 1st round.

And thn R2 and it was cutting as hell.
Wll randy couild do better job , I'm still not impressed with Brock

[Evan]

Lesnar has youth, size and natural talent on his side. When you consider how much time and ability he has to grow...wow.

[Anti.Hero]

I'd like to see Gonzaga take a shot at Brock.

[tsb2000]

Wow! If Mir beats Noriega, then does Mir take on Lesnar again?

[Evan]

I'd like to see Gonzaga take a shot at Brock.

By the looks of it I wouldn't put too much on that...Nog has a shot

[dbreiden83080]

Wll randy couild do better job , I'm still not impressed with Brock

Dude give the guy his due here. Randy is an all time legend in the sport, Brock in his 4th MMA fight went out and got 2 takedowns, controlled for the most part, won RD 1. Then in an even RD 2 landed the punch and finished Randy. So for all the "Brock can't finish" people out there take that shit... And he is only going to get better...

[dbreiden83080]

Yo Evan i went 5-0 on this card BABY, i told you to go with Kenny, did he look great or what???

[polandprzem]

Dude give the guy his due here. Randy is an all time legend in the sport, Brock in his 4th MMA fight went out and got 2 takedowns, controlled for the most part, won RD 1. Then in an even RD 2 landed the punch and finished Randy. So for all the "Brock can't finish" people out there take that shit... And he is only going to get better...

Easy man

Must I be impressed? He did a realy great job but it takes more to impres me :)


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Damn I was waiting for that fight for a loooooooooong time

I should KO the bitch and submitt the guy!

[Evan]

Yo Evan i went 5-0 on this card BABY, i told you to go with Kenny, did he look great or what???

you're like budda brother ...you on a roll

[dbreiden83080]

Easy man

Must I be impressed? He did a realy great job but it takes more to impres me :)


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Damn I was waiting for that fight for a loooooooooong time

I should KO the bitch and submitt the guy!

Well in this fight anyway what more did you want to see? I was shocked Randy was so hard for Brock to take down but overall he still impressed the hell out of me. He is so powerful and athletic. If the fight had gone on Randy would have had a shot, Brock was cut and a little tired buit he got the job done..

[anakha]

Props to Couture for a pretty well-thought out game plan.

The clinch was pretty effective against brock, and he was able to defend against some takedowns and minimize the damage on the ground when he was taken down.

I think he was approaching Brock standing up like he was facing Sylvia, though, which seems like a mistake - Brock has much faster hands than Sylvia, as evidenced by the knockdown.

[dbreiden83080]

Hey guys MMA live post-fight coverage starts at 1:15 AM ET

http://assets.espn.go.com/livenow/mma/mmaLive.html

[dbreiden83080]

Having just re-watched the fight, Brock actually dominated Randy much more than i thought. First RD he got 2 takedowns, controlled the RD. 2nd RD, Randy did next to nothing in the clinch, he got the single leg a few times but it went nowhere, they seperated Brock hit the big right hand, and finished, he was actually quite dominant here for Brock..

[Cant_Be_Faded]

Wow looks like all you jizz guzzling mma addicts were wrong about this one. I told you Brock was just too big and too quick to be faded by ANY 45 year old, even if he was as bad ass as randy.

[dbreiden83080]

I give Randy credit but Brock is the real deal, he is a monster, the haters have to deal with it and accept it...

[Evan]

Wow looks like all you jizz guzzling mma addicts were wrong about this one. I told you Brock was just too big and too quick to be faded by ANY 45 year old, even if he was as bad ass as randy.

You do realize there were plenty of people here who picked Randy don't you?

[Anti.Hero]

Randy held his own considering the ridiculous size difference. He even got a decent cut under Brock's eye.

Those ridiculous fists of Brock's :(

[Cant_Be_Faded]

You do realize there were plenty of people here who picked Randy don't you?

Yes......................thats why i said what i said.............


if you don't understand this, then mma is in deeper trouble than i thought.......

[Evan]

Yes......................thats why i said what i said.............


if you don't understand this, then mma is in deeper trouble than i thought.......

LOL....I meant to say Brock...I was typing out a post and did a bad back edit.

My edit = fail

[Cant_Be_Faded]

Dude, I don't know about the final tallies, cuz I'm not fully ingratiated into this forum yet, but as of 2 weeks after the start of the UFC poll, most people picked Couture, resulting in my 'contrarian' post.

[dbreiden83080]

Randy held his own considering the ridiculous size difference. He even got a decent cut under Brock's eye.

Those ridiculous fists of Brock's :(

I had a lot of emotion and nerves coming into this fight, i was really pulling for Brock but he did dominate Randy pretty badly after seeing it again twice now. RD 1 was not close, Brock was in charge with position and octagon control. RD 2 Randy tried to do something in the clinch but it wasn't there and he got KO'd..

Brock is for real baby and i think he can beat Nog or Mir in his next fight...

[ATRAIN]

Wow looks like all you jizz guzzling mma addicts were wrong about this one. I told you Brock was just too big and too quick to be faded by ANY 45 year old, even if he was as bad ass as randy.

Whats up with the Jizz Gozzling you Vince Young Jock riding faggot? Ive been saying Brock since the first time they announced the fight. OH You told us Brock was too quick and big huh. Since when are you the expert on MMA?

[polandprzem]

Wow looks like all you jizz guzzling mma addicts were wrong about this one. I told you Brock was just too big and too quick to be faded by ANY 45 year old, even if he was as bad ass as randy.

If that 45 year old was sub machine it wouyld be a diferent story.
Randy is not known for submissions.


I give Randy credit but Brock is the real deal, he is a monster, the haters have to deal with it and accept it...
I won't deal it and accept. I'm gonna protest to Dana White :D


Now dana must give Brock a real opponent like ... Kimbo Slice

[anakha]

Rogan must have been in hog heaven all night from all of the omaplatas executed during the event.

[cornbread]

That had to be one of my favorite cards in a while. Lots of impressive jiu jitsu displayed.

[Evan]

That had to be one of my favorite cards in a while. Lots of impressive jiu jitsu displayed.

Hazlett!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[cornbread]

I have never seen somebody pull half-guard in mma until Demian Maia did it.

[dbreiden83080]

Big Ups to Kenny Florian what a job he did in that fight. Now they can sell he and Penn because he dominated Joe-Daddy actually even worse than Penn did. I think Kenny and Penn is a good fight..

[Heath Ledger]

Should be Rock Lesnar that sonofabitch is empty upstairs. I love how he looked in the air and said i just want to say thank god,, god, god bless you as he pointed in the air.

But damn is he a big sonnamabitch. Got Winstrol?

[polandprzem]

I need to watch the whole thing once again.

The UFC 91 was not stacked but the matchups occured to be very competitive and really nice. Esp. many JJ actions.

I liked what I saw in jeremy Stevens. The young kid got heart and guts. His defense is really good, this is his second victory I saw and both were against BJJ fighters. so I'm impressed with the performance, if he can improve his ground game he can be top fighter. I will be watching this kid progress, (hopefully)

As for Ken-Flo
He went in like he wated to show Penn that there is acually somebody who can comete with him in the 155 division. Daddy was flat and again he was submitted and again by a choke :)

Hezelett - I liked what I saw in him when he faced Koshcheck. He needs to work on agression though.

As for Cock Lesnar - he is the new Champ, he got a title shot so fast and he took advetage of him being a freak and showmen. Dana must be happy he have somebody like him - easy to promote a freak.
All in all he was going to fight with his pants full, so I thought Randy even more chances of beating him, but I think Randy also was not so himself, he was trying to get himself into the same feeling of confidence that he had all his career.
That said I need toi watch the fight again, because almost whole 2st round I saw them just hugging cause I had frickin clients! Fuckers. I was over 22 hours without a sleep after the day in which I was feeling bad all day long, plus the quality was bad and the second round which I was watching was being cutted (stream was awefull - too many people were watching).


I don't know now if I want Nog to defend interim or Mir taking it and having a rematch with Lisner ?
Botyh matchup should be interesting and I think both will happen, but which first.

btw. I hate Brock Lesnar, that's it. I'm not taking away nothing from him. I'm not talking much about his success and how great he is cause I'm not happy he won - that is it.

He is still raw as a MMA fighter. Bob Sapp was good one day as well.

Cheers :D

[Evan]

Brock is not a freak show...he is a legit NCAA champion who gave up showmanship for true sport. It would be completely different if he was never a real NCAA athlete who came out of the WWF but that's not the case.

[djohn14]

Sorry it took so long, but here is my review.

Maia looked great, and dominated.
Hazelett is just as sick as I thought he was.
Jeremy Stephens...that was crazy.
Gonzaga looked very good. (Did anyone notice all the knots on Hendricks?)
Florian-Stevenson...Florian looked great. The only thing I didnt like was we Joe was going for a big slam, Florian grabbed the cage. If Daddy lands that slam, who knows...it might just knock the breathe out of Kenflo and open a spot for a sick sub by Stevenson. I hate cage grabs, and I feel anytime someone is going for a slam and you intentionally grab the cage...a point should be deducted. Florian...you looked great, but I was upset with that.
Lesnar..what can I say...Some say its a lucky punch. I say he wins no matter what. Last night, I never once though Randy would win. I wanted him to, but I didnt think he would. So Bring on Mir, Bring on Nogueira, and when all else fails...Bring on Cain Velasquez and let him show Lesnar what an ass whoopin is!

[polandprzem]

Brock is not a freak show...he is a legit NCAA champion who gave up showmanship for true sport. It would be completely different if he was never a real NCAA athlete who came out of the WWF but that's not the case.

True dat

Just wanted to diss him:)

[polandprzem]

btw. I really know what sports are about Evan.
Sometimes I say something to see people reaction on the topic.
In here I was going all for Randy. But then again on polish forum I had to defend Brock! quotes like : well there were many great athletes, gigants who was suppose to take the sport by storm but they failed... He is just a freak and Dana wants to promote him to rise popularity...what has he done in this sport? Nothing...He did in this sport as many as Kimbo Slice and once he will get down like Kimbo did

and things like that

It sometimes cool to talk about that but some people do not know what is going on and sometimes I get pissed.

[BWS-1994]

Jeremy "Lil' Heathen" Stephen's uppercut was sick! If not for the replay, I thought it broke right through Dos Anjos' guard.

I also thought Hazelett's arm bar broke Mcrory's arm. Amazing display of JJ.

After watching Kenflo's stand up against Daddy and hearing how much his Muay Thai improved, I didn't expect the fight to end in with a RNC.

Congrats to Brock Lesnar. That punch couldn't have landed in a better spot.

[dbreiden83080]

Brock is not a freak show...he is a legit NCAA champion who gave up showmanship for true sport. It would be completely different if he was never a real NCAA athlete who came out of the WWF but that's not the case.

And the thing is, Brock is training his ass off. He has taken this 100% serious and the results are paying off. He got oppurtunities that others would not get so soon for sure but he has made the most of them. He dominated Randy and took the title, so he has earned some respect. And yes for anyone who thinks Brock didn't dominate Randy, re-watch the fight, other than one good punch in the clinch Randy did nothing at all in that fight..

[Evan]

Its a stigma he will have a hard time shaking....a lot of these old pride guys did fake wrestling in Japan between fights to help with bills but they get the slack simply because it isn't as easy to do a google image search in Japanese.

I'm not exactly thrilled someone with so few fights is a champion but it is what it is and its great for MMA. For Gods sake...I was reading the Dallas Morning News paper this morning and my knees almost buckled when I saw that they covered the UFC last night.

[polandprzem]

Its a stigma he will have a hard time shaking....a lot of these old pride guys did fake wrestling in Japan between fights to help with bills but they get the slack simply because it isn't as easy to do a google image search in Japanese.

I'm not exactly thrilled someone with so few fights is a champion but it is what it is and its great for MMA. For Gods sake...I was reading the Dallas Morning News paper this morning and my knees almost buckled when I saw that they covered the UFC last night.

I wonder when this sport will be in the same place right there with the sports news "every day".

Many consider me a psycho just because I watch some freaks beat eachother

--------------
What gives you most success in MMA?
At the begining it was JJ and wrestlers which were brawlers.
Now it's tougher. And people are acually training MMA, not one combat sport and making transition. :violin

:fight

[Evan]

At the begining it was JJ and wrestlers which were brawlers.

True

^and for every real skilled guy there was a fat guy in sweatpants fighting with one boxing glove.

[polandprzem]

True

^and for every real skilled guy there was a fat guy in sweatpants fighting with one boxing glove.

Youtube got some old ufc highlights.

There were turmanents I can't remember how they were called but they were challenging styles. For excample a boxer with boxing glove agains JJ guy I knew from the begining who will win this :)

[Cant_Be_Faded]

guys take it easy, it was a joke

but seriously, the poll for couture/lesnar showed most voters in favor of couture for some time after it was created

[dbreiden83080]

guys take it easy, it was a joke

but seriously, the poll for couture/lesnar showed most voters in favor of couture for some time after it was created

Randy is a legend and he's also a hero to many fighters in the sport. He is one of the most well liked and respected guys to ever compete in MMA. Plus there has to be some jealousy towards Brock, getting so much so quick here..

[Evan]

guys take it easy, it was a joke

but seriously, the poll for couture/lesnar showed most voters in favor of couture for some time after it was created

No its cool...we're just chatting...

Just estimating....but from every MMA site I saw and video I would say it was roughly 55% Randy 45% Brock.

[dbreiden83080]

Where's Dallaskd?

He must be taking the Randy loss hard, he has my sympathies. :lol

[GroundNPound]

Tough to see Randy dominated so easily, but it was exciting to see Brock with an improved Striking game. I can't wait to see him in there with a Velasquez or Carwin. Big boys that can punch.

[polandprzem]

http://pl.youtube.com/watch?v=XDrAXYEOS6s

all access with brock if someone did not got this

[polandprzem]

He has shaken off some hate

[GroundNPound]

I can understand the hate for Lesnar initially. But to see the way he works, and the success he's had against the competition he has should quiet any of the haters. The dude is the real deal, and if he keeps working and improving he'll be a force for a long ass time.

[Evan]

I can understand the hate for Lesnar initially. But to see the way he works, and the success he's had against the competition he has should quiet any of the haters. The dude is the real deal, and if he keeps working and improving he'll be a force for a long ass time.

well said

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Source: TNAWrestling.com (http://www.tnawrestling.com/content/view/1165/84/)

TNAWrestling.com - TNA WRESTLING CONGRATULATES BROCK LESNAR ON BECOMING UFC WORLD CHAMPION

Everyone at TNA Wrestling would like to congratulate Brock Lesnar, who defeated Randy Couture in Las Vegas to become the new UFC World Champion.

Lesnar made the successful transition from pro wrestling to mixed martial arts, ultimately winning the top prize in the UFC at Saturday's Pay-Per-View event.

You can check out footage below of Lesnar's longtime nemesis Kurt Angle talking about Lesnar's UFC debut in February.

Will Olympic gold medalist Kurt Angle follow in Lesnar's footsteps and enter the world of mixed martial arts? Angle talks in depth about his MMA aspirations on the upcoming "Kurt Angle: Champion" double-disc DVD, hitting major retailers and ShopTNA.com on November 25!

The Kurt Angle release (Angle's first-ever wrestling DVD!) will be available at Walmart, FYE, Best Buy, Amazon.com, ShopTNA.com and major DVD retailers! Visit www.kurtanglechampion.com to preview the DVD.


Source: WWE.com (http://www.wwe.com/inside/news/8656158)

WWE.com - Brock Lesnar: WWE and UFC gold
Written: November 16, 2008

LAS VEGAS - In a stunning upset, Brock Lesnar became the first man to capture both the WWE Championship and the UFC Heavyweight Championship when he defeated UFC fan favorite Randy "The Natural" Couture on Saturday night in Sin City.

Lesnar, dubbed "The Next Big Thing" upon his arrival in WWE, earned the moniker and his first WWE Championship in 2002 after besting The Rock at SummerSlam. Thanks in large part to the backing of the WWE Universe, the former college wrestling phenomenon went on to regain the title twice, both times against Kurt Angle, once at WrestleMania in 2003 and then six months later on SmackDown.

For Lesnar, the road to UFC gold proved surprisingly short. Within roughly six months, the former WWE Superstar climbed to the top of the ultimate fighting heap, capping his ascent with the upset victory over Couture.

Critics have noted that many of the fights on the UFC pay-per-view ended in the first round, leaving UFC producers scrambling to fill the three-hour event with content. The dearth of hearty competition left many viewers to watch less prestigious under-card fights and only served to bolster claims that UFC pay-per-view events can often be a "crap shoot" in regards to filling the full three hours.

For his part, Lesnar took the encouragment of the WWE Universe and the hard lessons forged during his fiery time at WWE and showed UFC and the world why he is not only a man of mettle but also a former three-time WWE Champion.

The bolded part....WTF?!

[tlongII]

That was a terrific card last night! Very entertaining, but I'm a little depressed about Randy getting KO'd. I thought he'd beat Brock's ass, but Lesnar was just too damn big. I think they should consider adding another weight class like "Super Heavyweight." It's just not fair to fight somebody that outweighs you by 40 lbs.

[dbreiden83080]

That was a terrific card last night! Very entertaining, but I'm a little depressed about Randy getting KO'd. I thought he'd beat Brock's ass, but Lesnar was just too damn big. I think they should consider adding another weight class like "Super Heavyweight." It's just not fair to fight somebody that outweighs you by 40 lbs.

Randy has always been a small heavyweight, most of the heavyweights in the UFC are 240 and up or close to it.. Mir and Nog are fighting for the title and they are both around 250..

[tlongII]

Randy has always been a small heavyweight, most of the heavyweights in the UFC are 240 and up or close to it.. Mir and Nog are fighting for the title and they are both around 250..

They should still add it then. I'm sure there are a lot of potentially good fighters that are naturally at around 220.

[dbreiden83080]

They should still add it then. I'm sure there are a lot of potentially good fighters that are naturally at around 220.

Most guys walking around at 220 fight at 205, really all of them walk around that heavy that are 205 contenders.. I like it, the way it is. Creates a good seperation between the 185 and 205 weight class..

[Evan]

It's just not fair to fight somebody that outweighs you by 40 lbs.

Its very fair.

However, I do believe there should be a division between 205 and 265.

[dbreiden83080]

Its very fair.

However, I do believe there should be a division between 205 and 265.

Why when most Light Heavies are around 220 anyway?? You create too many weight classes and it waters things down..

[Evan]

Why when most Light Heavies are around 220 anyway?? You create too many weight classes and it waters things down..

Well UFC is the NFL and there will never be competition for them. Its too late...someone would have had to get in around 2005 to make a dent. So if the UFC will have so many people in it, as we all hope, 1 more class won't water it down what so ever.

Every big sport has a alpha dog that has effectively killed anyone who wants to challenge it....UFC is so far ahead of anyone else there isn't even a distant 2nd.

[cornbread]

Critics have noted that many of the fights on the UFC pay-per-view ended in the first round, leaving UFC producers scrambling to fill the three-hour event with content. The dearth of hearty competition left many viewers to watch less prestigious under-card fights and only served to bolster claims that UFC pay-per-view events can often be a "crap shoot" in regards to filling the full three hours.

If by critics they actually mean WWE marketing guys...

[Evan]

If by critics they actually mean WWE marketing guys...

Yeah I mean God forbid we get to see every fight on a card...

[dbreiden83080]

Well UFC is the NFL and there will never be competition for them. Its too late...someone would have had to get in around 2005 to make a dent. So if the UFC will have so many people in it, as we all hope, 1 more class won't water it down what so ever.


Between 205 and 265 when most guys are at 220 who fight at Light Heavy, i have to disagree.. So what would the class be like 220-240 or something like that? I'd rather have those guys make a choice to cut enough weight to make 205 or bulk up to fight at Heavyweight. I like the weight classes that are stacked with great contenders. Puts more pressure on the champ and opens the door for the belt to be changing hands often.. Another class would i feel water down the competiton at Light Heavy and Heavy, i don't think that's a good thing for the UFC. Boxing has suffered from way too many weight class for years..

[Evan]

MMA is going to start attracting a lot more college athletes that have nowhere else to go and its time to prepare. 1 extra weight class won't water anything down and will allow more people to fight at their natural weight.

[dbreiden83080]

MMA is going to start attracting a lot more college athletes that have nowhere else to go and its time to prepare. 1 extra weight class won't water anything down and will allow more people to fight at their natural weight.

between what weight would the class be??

[Evan]

between what weight would the class be??

I dunno. 235'''''''''''''''ish?


I just hate extreme weight cutting. I'd rather see two people with full gas tanks fighting at their best weight class rather than two guys depleted just to shed off 25 lbs.

This insane level of weight cutting we see in current MMA is a huge problem and will become a serious health issue. Theres nothing wrong with cutting 10lbs or so...but my God some of these guys are shedding off a limb to fight.

The problem with boxing classes is not only is there too many but there is too many ranking systems. MMA is so far from that and WAMMA needs to die a fast death asap.

[GroundNPound]

Between 205 and 265 when most guys are at 220 who fight at Light Heavy, i have to disagree.. So what would the class be like 220-240 or something like that? I'd rather have those guys make a choice to cut enough weight to make 205 or bulk up to fight at Heavyweight. I like the weight classes that are stacked with great contenders. Puts more pressure on the champ and opens the door for the belt to be changing hands often.. Another class would i feel water down the competiton at Light Heavy and Heavy, i don't think that's a good thing for the UFC. Boxing has suffered from way too many weight class for years..
I don't agree with this. The amount of athletes getting into MMA right now will more than fill out another Weight class between Light and Super heavy. I'm sure there are way more than a dozen great fighters in Light Heavy or Heavyweight that would much prefer to fight at 230 pounds. This will keep them from either having to cut an extreme amount of weight to fight 205ers, or bulk up enough so that they aren't outweighed by 30 pounds by the Lesnars of the world.

[GroundNPound]

I dunno. 235'''''''''''''''ish?


I just hate extreme weight cutting. I'd rather see two people with full gas tanks fighting at their best weight class rather than two guys depleted just to shed off 25 lbs.

This insane level of weight cutting we see in current MMA is a huge problem and will become a serious health issue. Theres nothing wrong with cutting 10lbs or so...but my God some of these guys are shedding off a limb to fight.


Agreed. Just go back and watch Brandon Vera from the fight night a couple months ago (not the UK card). He was terrible trying to change weight classes. He had nothing in the tank, and looked pathetic.

[dbreiden83080]

Agreed. Just go back and watch Brandon Vera from the fight night a couple months ago (not the UK card). He was terrible trying to change weight classes. He had nothing in the tank, and looked pathetic.

I think Vera is just pathetic period, and weight is the least of that guys problems..

[Cant_Be_Faded]

I just saw video of round 2....how the hell did randy fall down, it lookd like he took a glancing right? Almost as if he was on the take.

[GroundNPound]

Nah, you get hit in the right spot on the head it doesn't matter how hard you get hit you are gonna be dazed.

[Evan]

I think there is a lot of very athletic defensive tackles in the NCAA that could make the transition to MMA with some training. I bring up DT's specifically due to size as it relates to this discussion.

Fat slobby OT's need not apply......

The UFC needs to expand a bit...it wasn't that long ago that there was no lightweight division. Just a little over two years when Joe Lauzon whooped up on Jens to bring the division back...

Again...I am just talking about 1 more class between 205 and 265. Also if not now then 1 day 265 will been to be expanded. You have these huge athletes that have no where to go after college.. so many will be trying MMA just to see if they can squeeze a few more years out of there body before they put on a tie.

[Evan]

I just saw video of round 2....how the hell did randy fall down, it lookd like he took a glancing right? Almost as if he was on the take.

Elbow

http://i38.tinypic.com/16bei2o.gif

[djohn14]

With Lesnar and his "lunchbox size" fists...I got so tired of hearing that last night..and the fact that it hit him perfect...well lets just say a lot of people would fall from that.

[Evan]

With Lesnar and his "lunchbox size" fists...I got so tired of hearing that last night..and the fact that it hit him perfect...well lets just say a lot of people would fall from that.

lunchbox > ham hocks

:lol

I agree...stfu about his hands...so sick of hearing about that...

[dbreiden83080]

I dunno. 235'''''''''''''''ish?


I just hate extreme weight cutting. I'd rather see two people with full gas tanks fighting at their best weight class rather than two guys depleted just to shed off 25 lbs.

This insane level of weight cutting we see in current MMA is a huge problem and will become a serious health issue. Theres nothing wrong with cutting 10lbs or so...but my God some of these guys are shedding off a limb to fight.

The problem with boxing classes is not only is there too many but there is too many ranking systems. MMA is so far from that and WAMMA needs to die a fast death asap.


I don't agree with this. The amount of athletes getting into MMA right now will more than fill out another Weight class between Light and Super heavy. I'm sure there are way more than a dozen great fighters in Light Heavy or Heavyweight that would much prefer to fight at 230 pounds. This will keep them from either having to cut an extreme amount of weight to fight 205ers, or bulk up enough so that they aren't outweighed by 30 pounds by the Lesnars of the world.


I think there is a lot of very athletic defensive tackles in the NCAA that could make the transition to MMA with some training. I bring up DT's specifically due to size as it relates to this discussion.

Fat slobby OT's need not apply......

The UFC needs to expand a bit...it wasn't that long ago that there was no lightweight division. Just a little over two years when Joe Lauzon whooped up on Jens to bring the division back...

Again...I am just talking about 1 more class between 205 and 265. Also if not now then 1 day 265 will been to be expanded. You have these huge athletes that have no where to go after college.. so many will be trying MMA just to see if they can squeeze a few more years out of there body before they put on a tie.

Alright Alright GoundnPound, (Nice Name BTW, welcome to the forum) you Douche-bags have convinced me the UFC needs to expand, guys happy now.. :p:


lunchbox > ham hocks

:lol

I agree...stfu about his hands...so sick of hearing about that...

I love hearing about those hands, and Goldberg saying how Wrestlers don't like to be on their back, now that is some first rate commentating heh.. :hat

[Evan]

lol^^^^^^^

[Evan]

BTW...how did you find this place GoundnPound?

[dbreiden83080]

This just in from Goldie, JJ experts really get pissed when they get submitted and strikers want to throw themselves off roof-tops when they get KTFO..

100 UFC events and he still sucks...

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

Got a silly question for everybody and I know somebody here will have the answer.

I'm looking for a Tapout hat that looks like this (but black) with red lettering. I can't remember which fighter's crew had one of their guys wearing it, though, so it's hard to find. It was during UFC 91.

http://www.delmonicohatter.com/Merchant2/graphics/00000001/Kangol-SS08-6549BC-225X.jpg

[Evan]

Mark DellaGrotte

http://mmajunkie.com/dyn/images/fighters/kenny-florian-mark-dellagrotte.jpg

Trains Kenny Florian

If you email tapout they will set you right pretty fast...I hear they have excellent customer service with stuff like that.

[Evan]

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[Johnny_Blaze_47]

Mark DellaGrotte

http://mmajunkie.com/dyn/images/fighters/kenny-florian-mark-dellagrotte.jpg

Trains Kenny Florian

If you email tapout they will set you right pretty fast...I hear they have excellent customer service with stuff like that.

Damn. Six minutes? What took you so long?

Seriously, thanks for the help, man. Props for the quick response.

[Evan]

Damn. Six minutes? What took you so long?

Seriously, thanks for the help, man. Props for the quick response.

:lol

Its a trade mark look he throws down in MMA nerd circles. He's a pretty famous trainer for MMA fighters as well as the super rich and famous.

[djohn14]

Johnny Blaze

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

Johnny Blaze

Yes?

[desflood]

Not much was said about the undercards, but I'll say something about (or maybe to) Jorge Gurgel:

You're a f*ckin' bjj black belt, you idiot. F*ckin' use it so you can stop losing your f*ckin' fights.










This Dana White moment has been brought to you by desflood.

[Evan]

Not much was said about the undercards, but I'll say something about (or maybe to) Jorge Gurgel:

You're a f*ckin' bjj black belt, you idiot. F*ckin' use it so you can stop losing your f*ckin' fights.










This Dana White moment has been brought to you by desflood.

:lol


Gurgel is something else...the dude brings it every single fight and is one tough SOB but he abandons his JJ so fast. I wonder what his students think...

People hate him in the UFC but I like him...he's so much like Guida...win or lose he leaves everything he has in the cage. The Anti Vera....

I got to get off MMA forums or I will be working until 2am...ugh...

[Anti.Hero]

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:worthy:

[desflood]

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:worthy:
Did anybody else hear the words "Finish Him!" in their heads when they saw that?

[polandprzem]

Did anybody else hear the words "Finish Him!" in their heads when they saw that?

No, I heard wow!


About the weight class.
I do not like too many weight classes and it is in fighters business if they want to cut as many as they want or not. Alves is the prime example. He would be cutting to 185 as he walks around 200.
So the fighters decide it.
And too many weightclasses causes too many fighters changing the divisions and I do not like that as well.

But 205 is not much and the weight calss in 235 would be acurate and you make new one in 275 or 280

But I don't want no superheavyweights. Unathletic fat asses ;p


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Brock beat up an old man who was losing to LHW's :)

[polandprzem]

It's over
I'm done
I'm finished

Because of defending Brock on the other forum I might accidently became his fan :pctoss I was at the gym today lifting some metal and I was imaginating myself as Brock ...

I will shake that off and probably I will stand in the middle between hating him and likeing him ...



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Hey what's your thoughts about moving weights in divisions.
make 220 - as lhw
make 195 - as middle
make 180 - as welter
make 165 - as light
make 150 - as for the dwarfs (I think sequ could bulk up to that weight)

Jeez what a fantasy maker I am :rolleyes:


take care

[djohn14]

Yes?

I havent talked to you in a long time....so...Im just breaking that barrier.

[dbreiden83080]

Final UFC 91 Blog, Penn and GSP in the video, Dana was thrilled Brock won, you can tell..


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[Evan]

Its all about he future of the UFC…who can blame him…I have never seen so much press coverage. Yahoo.com's headline was a split picture between Paul McCartney releasing a new beatles song and Brock Lesnar. Wow

[ATRAIN]

Its all about he future of the UFC…who can blame him…I have never seen so much press coverage. Yahoo.com's headline was a split picture between Paul McCartney releasing a new beatles song and Brock Lesnar. Wow

Yeah plus a friend of mine put it in a good way. UFC prob wanted Brock to win since Randy keeps pulling a Brett Farve on his retirement. This might draw some positive attention to the HW div.

[dbreiden83080]

Yeah plus a friend of mine put it in a good way. UFC prob wanted Brock to win since Randy keeps pulling a Brett Farve on his retirement. This might draw some positive attention to the HW div.

Good point. I think Randy was locked in to fighting the winner of Nog and Mir had he beat Brock. the UFC might have told him, "take your time and think about things if you lose, but you have to fight that next fight if you win" It's better for the UFC Brock won. He's young, marketable and very hungry. He wants more and more fights and to keep getting better..

[ATRAIN]

Good point. I think Randy was locked in to fighting the winner of Nog and Mir had he beat Brock. the UFC might have told him, "take your time and think about things if you lose, but you have to fight that next fight if you win" It's better for the UFC Brock won. He's young, marketable and very hungry. He wants more and more fights and to keep getting better..

Yeah I agree, Brock wants more and as champ with his 4th ever MMA fight is unheard of. Makes UFC look like they found thier Kimbo but he can actually fight hahaha.

[Evan]

Randy has no future beyond this calender year...him winning would do nothing for the UFC. A cross promotional athlete does wonders. Same as if a NFL or MLB player would have won.

[ATRAIN]

Randy has no future beyond this calender year...him winning would do nothing for the UFC. A cross promotional athlete does wonders. Same as if a NFL or MLB player would have won.

Yeah, its pretty amazing that even TNA and WWE both sent public congrats to brock.

[LEONARD]

Props to Lesnar for not only winning, but remaining classy. No WWE bullshit afterwards.

Give me Nog by armbar...

Kenny continues to impress...

Maia is still the #1 threat to Silva...

Love me some Hazelett...


randy looks soft like he had to cut a lot of weight

Were you drunk when you typed this? :lol


I just saw video of round 2....how the hell did randy fall down, it lookd like he took a glancing right? Almost as if he was on the take.

Seriously...why are you even posting??

He got punched behind the ear, which is the WORST place to get hit. Watch a few fights and you might know this..."on the take"...unbelievable...get the fuck out if that's all you've got to offer...

[Evan]

yay Leonard is posting!!!!

[ATRAIN]

Seriously...why are you even posting??

He got punched behind the ear, which is the WORST place to get hit. Watch a few fights and you might know this..."on the take"...unbelievable...get the fuck out if that's all you've got to offer...

LMAO NICE:lol:toast

[dbreiden83080]

Leonard laying the smack-down,

Come on Dallaskd, take your lickings like a man and give props to the new champ....

[ATRAIN]

Leonard laying the smack-down,

Come on Dallaskd, take your lickings like a man and give props to the new champ....

LOL Dallas might be crying still :). Leonard is now officially on my bouncer payroll. Leonard what fighting styles do you know?

[dbreiden83080]

LOL Dallas might be crying still :)?

Dude he was gearing up to talk so much shit to you and me if Randy had won. Even when we would argue about GSP and Penn he'd say "Go Randy" at the end of his posts, LOL..:lol

[ATRAIN]

Dude he was gearing up to talk so much shit to you and me if Randy had won. Even when we would argue about GSP and Penn he'd say "Go Randy" at the end of his posts, LOL..:lol

LOL really I never noticed that. That is hilarious.

[LEONARD]

LOL Dallas might be crying still :). Leonard is now officially on my bouncer payroll. Leonard what fighting styles do you know?

Mostly drunken brawling... :lol

and I'm good at soccer kicks to the head...

[dbreiden83080]

Mostly drunken brawling... :lol

and I'm good at soccer kicks to the head...

Leonard Via, Bud-Light bottle to head...

[ATRAIN]

Mostly drunken brawling... :lol

and I'm good at soccer kicks to the head...

I thought you taught self defense classes? Where did I hear that? LOL I think all of us know that fighting style......druken brawling that is. Its funny now whenever im about to get into a fight even if it doesnt happen i automatically get in boxing stance lol. I have a buddy that wants me to get into Ju-jitsu and Im really thinking about it but its a drive to get down to the school and expensive.

[LEONARD]

I thought you taught self defense classes? Where did I hear that? LOL

I also own a lawn care service and I'm a PI in my spare time...

[dbreiden83080]

Its funny now whenever im about to get into a fight even if it doesnt happen i automatically get in boxing stance lol.

Good Lord A-Train dial down the anger a notch. We don't want to have to be delivering you a lap-top from jail, so we can stay in touch on MMA topics. :p:

[ATRAIN]

I also own a lawn care service and I'm a PI in my spare time...

LOL ok very funny.

[ATRAIN]

Good Lord A-Train dial down the anger a notch. We don't want to have to be delivering you a lap-top from jail, so we can stay in touch on MMA topics. :p:

LOL nah man Ive only almost been in 1 fight since I started my boxing training. It wasnt even my fault these 5 frat guys thought it would be funny to grab my best friends gf's ass. It would have been 5 against 2. I talked those other 4 into not jumping in. I told them I was a boxer and did they really want to get into a fight with me. 3 of them said NO man we dont want to mess with you. My friend and I arent short and have a lot of muscle so we can look intimidating. I was glad they decided not to do anything though hahaha. Ill talk my way out of a fight first and foremost. I dont like the inside of a jail cell, it sucks.

[Evan]

I also own a lawn care service and I'm a PI in my spare time...

^its true....and he can stain a fence like that!

*snaps a finger*

just send him a pm

[polandprzem]

I've noticed that I'm not a good fighter

My positioning is bad I have bad footwork and I do ot want to do any harm.
I once hit a friend who pissed me of as hell. Good that I did not pointed my fist into his face cause I would probably rip his head off ...

he had a violet stamp of my fist on his arm

I'm 230 6'2" guy and I took whole body in that shot and almost full power.


One day I will go on MMA training to learn how to keep distance and stuff.
cause when I was jokingly fighting friends I could not reach them.

Aehhh nevermind

:rolleyes

":D

[ATRAIN]

I've noticed that I'm not a good fighter

My positioning is bad I have bad footwork and I do ot want to do any harm.
I once hit a friend who pissed me of as hell. Good that I did not pointed my fist into his face cause I would probably rip his head off ...

he had a violet stamp of my fist on his arm

I'm 230 6'2" guy and I took whole body in that shot and almost full power.


One day I will go on MMA training to learn how to keep distance and stuff.
cause when I was jokingly fighting friends I could not reach them.

Aehhh nevermind

:rolleyes

":D

LOL I was that way when I first started, I hated sparring cause I didnt want to hit back but that all changes when they start hitting you hahaha.

[Evan]

I've noticed that I'm not a good fighter

My positioning is bad I have bad footwork and I do ot want to do any harm.
I once hit a friend who pissed me of as hell. Good that I did not pointed my fist into his face cause I would probably rip his head off ...

he had a violet stamp of my fist on his arm

I'm 230 6'2" guy and I took whole body in that shot and almost full power.


One day I will go on MMA training to learn how to keep distance and stuff.
cause when I was jokingly fighting friends I could not reach them.

Aehhh nevermind

:rolleyes

":D

hahahah....love ya Poland! funny :lmao

[polandprzem]

Yea and it was the only time I hit somebody for real. (maybe when I was a kid I had some little episodes but nothing special :) )

We acually had some wrestling as well, he put his body on me. It happen that he was on my back and started to choke me I really thought I gonna faint. I stand up and thrown him (he is 230 something as well) and went with right hand.


All in all I always wanted to train boxing as I think it it one of the hardest trainings indyvidually.
Now when I'm MMA fan - I must to try something of that.
But not yet.

Still I got to work on my body. Too much fat too less muscles. Damn.

And I've got my knee fvcked.

[polandprzem]

hahahah....love ya Poland! funny :lmao

Thanks

That makes you one of not many who loves me :)


:D





:toast

[ATRAIN]

Thanks

That makes you one of not many who loves me :)


:D





:toast

LOL I dont love you but your cool in my book. Now Kori and her husband (I refuse to say his name now hahah) dont like you hahaha.

[desflood]

:lol


Gurgel is something else...the dude brings it every single fight and is one tough SOB but he abandons his JJ so fast. I wonder what his students think...

People hate him in the UFC but I like him...he's so much like Guida...win or lose he leaves everything he has in the cage. The Anti Vera....

I got to get off MMA forums or I will be working until 2am...ugh...
I really like watching Jorge fight. But I hate seeing a guy with so much talent lose because he refuses to use his strengths.

[Evan]

http://www.fightlinker.com/pics/smooch.gif

[LEONARD]

LOL...that got a BIG reaction at my house...


Still I got to work on my body. Too much fat too less muscles. Damn.

And I've got my knee fvcked.

:lol

[Evan]

I have watched that 50 times and I can't figure out what they were thinking......

[polandprzem]

LOL...that got a BIG reaction at my house...



:lol


What kind of eraction* ???

[polandprzem]

I have watched that 50 times and I can't figure out what they were thinking......

They were thinkiing: Fuck them all we not gonna hide anymore!

[Evan]

ahahaha

[Anti.Hero]

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[Evan]

Lesnar uses more Judo than Sokoudjou..........